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canadienne
02-21-2018, 05:49 AM
Hello there.

First off, my family from Drama, Greece and Thessaloniki, Greece. And my mother's father from Dibër, Albania. But i live in Turkey and i have a Turkish ancestry.

I'm an amateur for genealogy. I need your comments for my ancestry. Here it is my results;

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I upload my Ftdna my origins and Dna land results. Second post, i will upload my Gedmatch results.

canadienne
02-21-2018, 05:59 AM
MDLP K23b:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 7.215541
2 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 9.697253
3 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 9.737465
4 Azov_Greek_ @ 9.883278
5 Turk_Aydin_ @ 10.332807
6 Greek_ @ 10.435385
7 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 10.536961
8 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 11.044657
9 Central_Greek_ @ 11.185824
10 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 11.802006
11 Greek_Athens_ @ 11.916197
12 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 11.941751
13 Greek_Northwest_ @ 12.049008
14 Ashkenazi_ @ 12.073565
15 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ @ 12.247816
16 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 12.263663
17 Romanian_Jew_ @ 12.292879
18 Cretan_ @ 12.373502
19 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 12.556520
20 Gagauz_ @ 12.643234

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Montenegrian_ +50% Turk_Adana_ @ 4.023170


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian_ +25% Nogai_ +25% Samaritian_ @ 3.033110


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Cypriot_ + Kashub_ + Nogai_ + Sephardic_Jew_ @ 2.622899
2 Albanian_Tirana_ + Austrian_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.634895
3 Austrian_ + Greek_Thessaly_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.641263
4 Croat_BH_ + Italian_Tuscan_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.641994
5 Austrian_ + Greek_Thessaloniki_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.671770
6 Croat_ + Greek_Northwest_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.676114
7 Greek_ + Nogai_ + North_German_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.683136
8 Greek_Athens_ + Nogai_ + North_German_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.685914
9 Greek_Northwest_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ + Serb_BH_ @ 2.689774
10 Greek_ + Lebanese_Christian_ + Nogai_ + North_German_ @ 2.699606
11 Bosnian_ + Greek_Northwest_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.703607
12 Italian_North_ + Macedonian_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.713045
13 Lebanese_Christian_ + Nogai_ + Sicilian_West_ + Slovenian_ @ 2.715565
14 Austrian_ + Central_Greek_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.721272
15 Lebanese_Druze_ + Nogai_ + Sicilian_West_ + Slovenian_ @ 2.732076
16 Ashkenazi_ + Lebanese_Christian_ + Nogai_ + North_German_ @ 2.738010
17 Italian_Abruzzo_ + Lebanese_Christian_ + Nogai_ + Slovak_ @ 2.739376
18 Cypriot_ + Nogai_ + Sicilian_West_ + Slovak_ @ 2.740800
19 Austrian_ + Greek_Peloponnesos_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ @ 2.742726
20 Kosovar_ + Nogai_ + Samaritian_ + Serb_Serbia_ @ 2.744954

Eurogenes K13:
sing 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.913300
2 Central_Greek @ 11.322487
3 Italian_Abruzzo @ 12.815446
4 East_Sicilian @ 12.924443
5 Bulgarian @ 13.375573
6 Ashkenazi @ 15.560249
7 Romanian @ 15.637211
8 West_Sicilian @ 15.856279
9 South_Italian @ 15.937886
10 Tuscan @ 18.530962
11 Serbian @ 20.358789
12 Turkish @ 20.634781
13 Sephardic_Jewish @ 21.500040
14 Algerian_Jewish @ 22.349386
15 Italian_Jewish @ 22.574333
16 North_Italian @ 23.264223
17 Tunisian_Jewish @ 24.964022
18 Cyprian @ 25.289473
19 Moldavian @ 25.327925
20 Libyan_Jewish @ 25.367870

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% Turkish @ 3.997959


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Tatar +25% Turkish @ 1.988055


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenian + Italian_Jewish + Romanian + Tatar @ 1.585190
2 Georgian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Tatar + West_Sicilian @ 1.593160
3 Armenian + Central_Greek + Chuvash + Tuscan @ 1.695733
4 Georgian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Tatar @ 1.716034
5 Assyrian + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Tatar @ 1.726694
6 Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Tatar + West_Sicilian @ 1.738590
7 Balkar + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Kargopol_Russian @ 1.756816
8 Central_Greek + Georgian_Jewish + Tatar + Tuscan @ 1.763741
9 Armenian + Chuvash + East_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 1.785283
10 Algerian_Jewish + Armenian + Romanian + Tatar @ 1.787148
11 Armenian + Chuvash + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.816661
12 Armenian + Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + Tatar @ 1.878074
13 Assyrian + Romanian + South_Italian + Tatar @ 1.886825
14 Assyrian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Tatar @ 1.899995
15 Georgian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Tatar + Tuscan @ 1.904071
16 Armenian + Italian_Jewish + Serbian + Tatar @ 1.921768
17 Algerian_Jewish + Armenian + Serbian + Tatar @ 1.950348
18 Balkar + Italian_Jewish + Kargopol_Russian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.956414
19 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Tatar + Turkish @ 1.988055
20 Chuvash + Georgian_Jewish + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.008028

Dodecad K12b:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Dodecad @ 13.488826
2 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 14.712037
3 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 14.776910
4 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 16.152155
5 Romanians_Behar @ 16.337973
6 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 16.719879
7 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 17.319485
8 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 17.358393
9 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 17.532263
10 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 17.904236
11 Tuscan_HGDP @ 19.606342
12 TSI30_Metspalu @ 20.296368
13 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 22.081839
14 Turkish_Dodecad @ 22.525532
15 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 23.446077
16 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 23.561193
17 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 23.952034
18 Turks_Behar @ 24.136316
19 North_Italian_HGDP @ 26.255621
20 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 26.631697

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar +50% German_Dodecad @ 5.133706


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad +25% Turkmens_Yunusbayev +25% Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 2.255119


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.327506
2 Assyrian_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.446317
3 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.469662
4 Assyrian_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.476498
5 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Sicilian_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.570665
6 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.578879
7 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.585708
8 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.589781
9 Baleares_1000Genomes + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 1.595501
10 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Norwegian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.598816
11 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Russian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.645133
12 Baleares_1000Genomes + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.652184
13 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.691433
14 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes + Russian_B_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 1.698959
15 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 1.702668
16 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.711667
17 Galicia_1000Genomes + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.736964
18 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.737065
19 Extremadura_1000Genomes + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.745740
20 Assyrian_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.755070

Okay, i need a your analyze and comment. Who am i?

Gangrel
02-21-2018, 06:04 AM
Wheres the values for your calcs

Kouros
02-21-2018, 06:05 AM
I think your results are typical for a Balkan Turk (If it's alright that I call you that). Welcome to the forum. :)

Bosniensis
02-21-2018, 06:07 AM
What a mix, welcome to TA

canadienne
02-21-2018, 06:12 AM
http://i.hizliresim.com/gO69GR.png
My gencove result
http://i.hizliresim.com/NZDOX5.jpg
My dnaland resulthttp://i.hizliresim.com/LbDOMG.jpg

My Ftdna myorigins result

canadienne
02-21-2018, 06:43 AM
I don't understand my results. Can you please help me?

Bobby Martnen
02-21-2018, 06:44 AM
I don't understand my results. Can you please help me?

The Central Asian admixture is something all Turks have - what happened was a small number of Central Asian invaders mixed with the more numerically prominent natives, and that's why today's Turks look mostly West Asian/Middle Eastern, with a slight Asian influence.

Thracian
02-21-2018, 12:11 PM
It seems you are a Balkan Turk. Can you show us full ethnic breakdown in FTDNA?

On the other hand, you can ignore dna.land and especially gencove.

canadienne
02-21-2018, 12:44 PM
My Askhenazi Jew odds high in Gedmatch. What is mean?

WillyWonka
02-21-2018, 12:48 PM
What is your European component in FTDNA?

canadienne
02-21-2018, 12:57 PM
%65 European
%51 Southeast Europe
%14 Eastern Europe

Thracian
02-21-2018, 01:00 PM
%65 European
%51 Southeast Europe
%14 Eastern Europe

What about other parts like Middle Eastern and Trace results?

canadienne
02-21-2018, 01:09 PM
Middle East %30
Anatolia %26
West Middle East %4

Northeast Asia %2

Sora
02-21-2018, 01:18 PM
I advice you to upload your results to gedmatch, or to post your gedmatch results

canadienne
02-21-2018, 01:25 PM
I put my gedmatch result page 1.

Leto
02-21-2018, 01:42 PM
%65 European
%51 Southeast Europe
%14 Eastern Europe

Middle East %30
Anatolia %26
West Middle East %4

Northeast Asia %2
Interesting. Post Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad K12b please.

canadienne
02-21-2018, 01:46 PM
Eurogenes K13:
sing 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.913300
2 Central_Greek @ 11.322487
3 Italian_Abruzzo @ 12.815446
4 East_Sicilian @ 12.924443
5 Bulgarian @ 13.375573
6 Ashkenazi @ 15.560249
7 Romanian @ 15.637211
8 West_Sicilian @ 15.856279
9 South_Italian @ 15.937886
10 Tuscan @ 18.530962
11 Serbian @ 20.358789
12 Turkish @ 20.634781
13 Sephardic_Jewish @ 21.500040
14 Algerian_Jewish @ 22.349386
15 Italian_Jewish @ 22.574333
16 North_Italian @ 23.264223
17 Tunisian_Jewish @ 24.964022
18 Cyprian @ 25.289473
19 Moldavian @ 25.327925
20 Libyan_Jewish @ 25.367870

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% Turkish @ 3.997959


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Tatar +25% Turkish @ 1.988055


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenian + Italian_Jewish + Romanian + Tatar @ 1.585190
2 Georgian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Tatar + West_Sicilian @ 1.593160
3 Armenian + Central_Greek + Chuvash + Tuscan @ 1.695733
4 Georgian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Tatar @ 1.716034
5 Assyrian + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Tatar @ 1.726694
6 Armenian + Greek_Thessaly + Tatar + West_Sicilian @ 1.738590
7 Balkar + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Kargopol_Russian @ 1.756816
8 Central_Greek + Georgian_Jewish + Tatar + Tuscan @ 1.763741
9 Armenian + Chuvash + East_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 1.785283
10 Algerian_Jewish + Armenian + Romanian + Tatar @ 1.787148
11 Armenian + Chuvash + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.816661
12 Armenian + Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + Tatar @ 1.878074
13 Assyrian + Romanian + South_Italian + Tatar @ 1.886825
14 Assyrian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Tatar @ 1.899995
15 Georgian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Tatar + Tuscan @ 1.904071
16 Armenian + Italian_Jewish + Serbian + Tatar @ 1.921768
17 Algerian_Jewish + Armenian + Serbian + Tatar @ 1.950348
18 Balkar + Italian_Jewish + Kargopol_Russian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.956414
19 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Tatar + Turkish @ 1.988055
20 Chuvash + Georgian_Jewish + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.008028

Dodecad K12b:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Dodecad @ 13.488826
2 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 14.712037
3 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 14.776910
4 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 16.152155
5 Romanians_Behar @ 16.337973
6 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 16.719879
7 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 17.319485
8 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 17.358393
9 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 17.532263
10 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 17.904236
11 Tuscan_HGDP @ 19.606342
12 TSI30_Metspalu @ 20.296368
13 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 22.081839
14 Turkish_Dodecad @ 22.525532
15 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 23.446077
16 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 23.561193
17 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 23.952034
18 Turks_Behar @ 24.136316
19 North_Italian_HGDP @ 26.255621
20 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 26.631697

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar +50% German_Dodecad @ 5.133706


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad +25% Turkmens_Yunusbayev +25% Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 2.255119


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.327506
2 Assyrian_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.446317
3 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.469662
4 Assyrian_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.476498
5 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Sicilian_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.570665
6 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.578879
7 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.585708
8 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.589781
9 Baleares_1000Genomes + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 1.595501
10 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Norwegian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.598816
11 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Russian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.645133
12 Baleares_1000Genomes + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.652184
13 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.691433
14 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes + Russian_B_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 1.698959
15 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 1.702668
16 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.711667
17 Galicia_1000Genomes + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.736964
18 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.737065
19 Extremadura_1000Genomes + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.745740
20 Assyrian_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.755070

Leto
02-21-2018, 01:49 PM
Where is the admixture list? :confused:

canadienne
02-22-2018, 04:46 AM
Eurogenes K13

Population
North_Atlantic 15.53
Baltic 15.92
West_Med 15.36
West_Asian 17.97
East_Med 23.45
Red_Sea 4.04
South_Asian 1.20
East_Asian 0.82
Siberian 4.08
Amerindian 0.44
Oceanian 1.20
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -






Dodecad K12b

Population
Gedrosia 10.03
Siberian 2.84
Northwest_African 1.72
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 20.02
North_European 23.09
South_Asian 0.51
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.52
East_Asian 2.08
Caucasus 30.19
Sub_Saharan -

canadienne
02-22-2018, 08:24 PM
I still have not got a satisfactory result. I need your help.

Bornoz
02-22-2018, 08:31 PM
Biliyorum çok durmayacaksın ama hoşgeldin yine de :)

Neden tatmin olmadığını anlamadım bu arada. Sonuçların Balkan Türkleri ortalamasından bi tık daha Anadolulu anladığım kadarıyla. Soyunun Balkanlara göçmesi aman aman eskiye dayanmıyor diye tahmin ediyorum.

canadienne
02-22-2018, 08:41 PM
Sana nasıl dm atacağımı bulamadım, mobildeyim. Bu durumu nasıl anlıyoruz peki? Artı olarak valide tarafında bi arnavut olma durumu var, bu sonuçlarda gözüküyor mu?

Bornoz
02-22-2018, 09:11 PM
Sana nasıl dm atacağımı bulamadım, mobildeyim. Bu durumu nasıl anlıyoruz peki? Artı olarak valide tarafında bi arnavut olma durumu var, bu sonuçlarda gözüküyor mu?

Ben bu testlerden anlaşılabileceğini sanmıyorum ama illa ki vardır Arnavut atan. Çevre bölgelere gönderilen Türkler hep bölge halkıyla karışmış zaten.

canadienne
02-23-2018, 01:09 AM
@ProudHuman,
bu işlerden anlayan birini bulurum umarım.

My grandfather is Albanian (maternal) How can see in my results?