Is sharing DNA with some ethnic group a reason to like them?

[Peterski]

Are neighbouring or related nations, or people in borderland areas with mixed ethnic origins, supposed to love each other? I don't think so. I dislike my annoying aunt, even though I share DNA with her because we are relatives. Croats and Serbs are closely related but they also dislike each other.

On the other hand, I can get along well with people with whom I have little in common.

[AK-47]

9 out of 10 people I meet just automatically assume I'm Italian.
I just roll with it.
I do get along well with Italians.

[Peterski]

9 out of 10 people I meet just automatically assume I'm Italian.
I just roll with it.
I do get along well with Italians.

In Europe, neighbouring nations usually have histories of conflict and animosity.

Even if they are closely related.

[AK-47]

In Europe, neighbouring nations usually have histories of conflict and animosity.

Even if they are closely related.
Poles and Germans have heavy genetic overlap.
The Nazis really despised Poles.
A form of self loathing by the Germans...:p

[Peterski]

I see Germans as an artificial Pan-Germanic nation, like Yugoslavia was a Pan-Slavic nation.

I explained it here:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235793-How-many-NW-Europeans-do-we-have-on-here&p=4977448&viewfull=1#post4977448

Sure, my family's DNA results indicate that we might be part Germanic. But it doesn't mean that Germany is not my enemy. Germanic Poles are not Germans. They are just Germanic Poles:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235937-Peterski-s-parents-DNA-results

Poles were never a 100% Slavic nation and having some Germanic or Celtic blood doesn't mean that my land should be "reunited with Germany". It was never German land to begin with.

Goths and Vandals were not modern Germans, and not even ancestors of modern Germans.

Our Piast dynasty dukes invited German settlers, and they should identify as Poles. Poland had 10% Jews as well, but it doesn't make it a Jewish land. They were immigrants here.

[Peterski]

My dad is very Anti-German (for good reasons, it is family history during WW2).

But his DNA results are:

https://i.imgur.com/rI9Z4qx.png

[AK-47]

I see Germans as an artificial Pan-Germanic nation, like Yugoslavia was a Pan-Slavic nation.

I explained it here:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235793-How-many-NW-Europeans-do-we-have-on-here&p=4977448&viewfull=1#post4977448

Sure, my family's DNA results indicate that we might be part Germanic. But it doesn't mean that Germany is not my enemy. Germanic Poles are not Germans. They are Germanic Poles:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235937-Peterski-s-parents-DNA-results

Poles were never a 100% Slavic nation and having some Germanic or Celtic blood doesn't mean that my land should be "reunited with Germany". It was never German land to begin with.

Goths and Vandals were not modern Germans, and not even ancestors of modern Germans.

Our Piast dynasty dukes invited German settlers, and they should identify as Poles. Poland had 10% Jews as well, but it doesn't make it a Jewish land. They were immigrants here.
HUH?
Jeeze...
Too early for this.
Nobody wants to invade Poland anymore, the Polish Jews are nearly all in death pits or long gone.
Germany is overrun with Muslim invaders and has its hands full.
If anybody has territorial expansion intentions on Poland, it would be your fellow Slavs in the Russian Federation.

[Peterski]

I don't identify as German. I do identify as Prussian though.

But I identify with Pro-Polish part of Prussian history, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizard_Union_(medieval)

"The Lizard Union or Lizard League (German: Eidechsenbund; Polish: Związek Jaszczurczy) was an organization of Prussian nobles and knights established in Culmerland (Chełmno Land) in 1397. Its declared goal was to combat lawlessness, although it discreetly sought the transfer of Culmerland from the Teutonic Knights to Poland.[1]

The union was founded by Nicholas von Renys, John of Pulkow, Frederick of Kitnow, and Nicholas of Kitnow. It was named after its emblem, a lizard (eyne eydechse), and expanded its influence to other provinces. During the Battle of Grunwald in 1410, Nicholas von Renys carried the banner of the Culmerland troops for the Teutonic Order. He lowered the banner prematurely, which was considered a signal for retreat that contributed to the defeat of the Knights according to some chroniclers of the time and continues to be recounted by some historians, but there is no historical support for this. Heinrich von Treitschke's thesis Das deutsche ordensland Preussen popularized the belief in this event. Nevertheless, these historians tend to make the act one of duplicity, not giving room for the possibility that in the fighting the banner may have moved out of sight or had fallen when a bearer was killed. After the defeat at Grunwald, there is little doubt that the Teutonic Order sought to use the Lizard League as a scapegoat. The Lizard Union was also believed to have been behind messages sent from Kulm advising surrender to the Order's capital of Marienburg, which was unsuccessfully besieged by Poland.[1]

Renys was executed by the Order after the war, causing the remaining members of the Lizard Union to flee to Poland.[2] The Lizard Union was declared illegal[citation needed] by Pope Gregory XII and Emperor Sigismund and was subsequently dissolved. However, it laid the foundation of the later Prussian Confederation, which requested the annexation of the State of the Teutonic Knights into Poland in 1454."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvnT0fjBGCE

[Peterski]

If anybody has territorial expansion intentions on Poland, it would be your fellow Slavs in the Russian Federation.

I explained here why Western Poles have always been Pro-Russian:

We had to be. Germany was a more serious existential threat to us:


You don't understand Polish geopolitics and recent history. Nobody gets it.

Western Poles were Anti-German, Pro-Russian, and supporters of Roman Dmowski. Eastern Poles were Pro-Austrian, Pro-German, Anti-Russian, and supporters of Józef Piłsudski.

That's how we survived attempts of Germanization and Russification respectively. Look at Polish elections in 1919, and where National Democracy (Dmowski's party) won. It won everywhere in western provinces, including Kashubia. That's how it is and probably will be for some time.

If you search for Pro-German Poles, find Rethel or some other Mazovian.

Dmowski said that he likes Russia as long as it is far away. I agree with him 100%. He also wasn't really Anti-German, but he recognized that Germany was a bigger threat than Russia.
Too bad for you, that only Eastern Poles (such as Rethel) really like Germany.

Western Poles don't like Germany. We like Russia as long as Russia is far away from us.

But yeah, keep investing in Western Poland instead of investing in Eastern Poland.

Money has no nationality, so we like all money we get, no matter from whom. In Warsaw they have a saying that "a Polak from Posen is a Scotsman expelled from Scotland for being too stingy".
A little bit of history for you:

Just like in Britain, a Welsh warlord - Vortigern - invited Anglo-Saxon mercenaries, in Silesia Polish Piast dukes invited German immigrants.

However, it is often not mentioned, that some of Piast dukes realized the mistake and wanted to expel the new immigrants. For example the so called Polish-Silesian Chronicle (Kronika Polsko-Śląska; Latin: "Chronica Polonorum") written by monks of the Lubiąż Abbey (German: Kloster Leubus), mentions ethnic conflicts between local Poles and immigrant Germans taking place in Silesia, during the 13th century.

It mentions a conflict between two sons of duke Henry the Bearded - older son Conrad the Curly and younger son Henry the Pious. According to the chronicle, Conrad wanted to expel German immigrants from Silesia. Henry, on the other hand, defended "multi-culturalism" and fought, quote - "cum Theutinicis advenis, tam agricolis quam militibus, quos aliunde congregaverat". Conrad was supported by Poles from Silesia as well as by ethnic Polish volunteers from other regions. Forces of the two brothers clashed in 1213 in the battle of near Studnica (German: Rothkirch).

Forces of "multi-cultural" Henry the Pious won against "ethno-centric" Conrad the Curly - and Germans weren't expelled. Not yet.

The chronicle also suggests that Konrad's fatal "accident" shortly after his defeat in the battle of Studnica, was in fact a murder.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_the_Curly


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOe9tVoab98

[AK-47]

I explained here why Western Poles have always been Pro-Russian:

We had to be. Germany was a more serious existential threat to us:
Not anymore.
The Germans are neutered, and they lost their most aggressive male genetic lines in WW2.
Most of their young male generation are cowering in fear, while their women are gang-banged by Muslim mobs in public.
I would worry far more about this crafty bastard.
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/10/31/16/vladimir-putin.jpg

[Peterski]

the Polish Jews are nearly all in death pits or long gone.

Killing our Jews (including Polonized ones) is one of reasons why I dislike Germany as well:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?50755-Members-of-the-Apricity-How-Do-You-Imagine-Them&p=4658136&highlight=Israel#post4658136


a person who heavily cucks for Israel

Jewish heritage?

I think this guy was right when he claimed Germans drink Anti-Semitism with mother's milk:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler%27s_Willing_Executioners

[Scar]

No one cares about DNA and other nerd masturbations in the real world.

[Peterski]

These idiots killed our Jews and then coined the term "Polish death camps". Hitler is rolling in his grave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyjpzbRKkw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyjpzbRKkw

[AK-47]

Killing our Jews is one of reasons why I dislike Germans as well:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?50755-Members-of-the-Apricity-How-Do-You-Imagine-Them&p=4658136&highlight=Israel#post4658136
Polish Jews were generally useful people, and not known as criminals or burdens on society.
The Nazis were literally gassing Jewish doctors, all while they're being slaughtered on the Eastern front, and in desperate need of doctors.
Very impractical people the Germans, no common sense.
They literally swapped 500,000 fully assimilated German Jews, for 7 million stone age Muslim migrants.
More Muslims coming to Germany daily...

[Dandelion]

Killing our Jews (including Polonized ones) is one of reasons why I dislike Germans as well:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?50755-Members-of-the-Apricity-How-Do-You-Imagine-Them&p=4658136&highlight=Israel#post4658136




I think this guy was right when he claimed Germans drink Anti-Semitism with mother's milk:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler%27s_Willing_Executioners

Jews and Poles both suffer from antisemitism and Polonophobia respectively outside of their countries. Poles did right criminalising one specific expression of Polonophobia which is putting the blame for the Holocaust in the shoes of Poles. Poland is no place for Pole hatred.

Poland should be to Poles what Israel is to Jews. A place where they're safe from persecution and discrimination.

[Leto]

Not anymore.
The Germans are neutered, and they lost their most aggressive male genetic lines in WW2.
Most of their young male generation are cowering in fear, while their women are gang-banged by Muslim mobs in public.
I would worry far more about this crafty bastard.
I would worry more about the excessive influence of Jews than anyone less. All the leftist and libtard shit has largely been a Jewish creation. Not a conspiracy theory and I'm not a Nazi, but that's just a fact.

[Leto]

These idiots killed our Jews and then coined the term "Polish death camps". Hitler is rolling in his grave:
And what country was the first to bash Poland for doing that?.. :rolleyes:

[Peterski]

All the leftist and libtard shit has largely been a Jewish creation.

Maybe, but Jews are also overrepresented in many positive contributions: science, inventions, etc. Nobody's perfect. Anti-Semites always see Jews in one-dimensional way, as a "threat to Aryans".

There are many good Jews.

[Peterski]

They literally swapped 500,000 fully assimilated German Jews

Yeah, they blamed them for spreading Communism and for their defeat in WW1.

Guess what, Friedrich Engels was not Jewish at all. And Karl Marx as far as I know was a self-hating Jew who despised Orthodox Jews and saw them as primitive and backward people.

[AK-47]

I would worry more about the excessive influence of Jews than anyone less. All the leftist and libtard shit has largely been a Jewish creation. Not a conspiracy theory and I'm not a Nazi, but that's just a fact.
Here in NYC where I live, 90% or more Jews are virulent libtards, and most have Bolshevist tendencies.
But the reality is that well over 99% of the EU is non Jewish, and they buck stops with them.
It's gentiles that keep reelecting socialists like Merkel.
It's gentiles that didn't vote in Marine Le Pen.
It's gentiles that didn't vote in Geert Wilders.

Time for European gentiles to stop blaming less than 1% of their population, for the actions of the other 99%.

[Leto]

Maybe, but Jews are also overrepresented in many positive contributions: science, inventions, etc. Nobody's perfect. Anti-Semites always see Jews in one-dimensional way, as a "threat to Aryans".
Well, I don't wanna talk about it, but the key word is overrepresented. In the US they are like 2% of the pop., but in the media, banking and entertainment they are heavily overrepresented. Even they sometimes brag about it themselves. I'm not saying all Jews are bad or that it's only the Jews who promote leftism and cultural Marxism, but they are definitely at the forefront of it all. I think it should be allowed to discuss and criticize without being censored. We Russians are being hated and bashed continuously for whatever reson, including this forum and no one cares but as soon as someone mentions Jews, it's like oy vey, shut it down, you can't say that, you're an anti-Semite. And why mention "Aryan"? I'm not an Aryan and have criticized the idea that Europeans are Aryans repeatedly.

[Leto]

Here in NYC where I live, 90% or more Jews are virulent libtards, and most have Bolshevist tendencies.
But the reality is that well over 99% of the EU is non Jewish, and they buck stops with them.
It's gentiles that keep reelecting socialists like Merkel.
It's gentiles that didn't vote in Marine Le Pen.
It's gentiles that didn't vote in Geert Wilders.

Time for European gentiles to stop blaming less than 1% of their population, for the actions of the other 99%.
Are you a Trump supporter? Like 75% of Jews in America voted for Hillary if I remember correctly.

[AK-47]

Are you a Trump supporter? Like 75% of Jews in America voted for Hillary if I remember correctly.
Trump is a little too leftist and questionable on issues like gun rights and immigration.
In my opinion all DACA DREAMers need to be deported, no deals.
Trump is "open" to gun grabbing legislation, too.
I wish he was more in line with Ted Cruz on those issues.

The USA has 320 million people, and 7 to 10 million Jews, depending on ones definition of Jewishness.
Jews play little to no role in swaying national elections, with the exception of Florida, where it's been very tight races in the last decade.
Fact of the matter is that for every socialist Jewish voter in the USA there are 10 or more socialist gentile voters.

[Leto]

Trump is a little too leftist and questionable on issues like gun rights and immigration.
In my opinion all DACA DREAMers need to be deported, no deals.
Trump is "open" to gun grabbing legislation, too.
I wish he was more in line with Ted Cruz on those issues.

The USA has 320 million people, and 7 to 10 million Jews, depending on ones definition of Jewishness.
Jews play little to no role in swaying national elections, with the exception of Florida, where it's been very tight races in the last decade.
Fact of the matter is that for every socialist Jewish voter in the USA there are 10 or more socialist gentile voters.
Most non-white Americans don't vote Republican, that's a well known fact as well. Also, most atheists don't do either. Fewer whites = fewer Republicans/conservatives.

[AK-47]

Most non-white Americans don't vote Republican, that's a well known fact as well. Also, most atheists don't do either. Fewer whites = fewer Republicans/conservatives.
That is the plan of the Democrat party.
Legalize millions of non whites and give them voting rights.
I never denied that most US Jews are in favor of that.
Nor have I denied that Hollywood, anti-gun groups, and the media are severely over-represented by Bolshevik Jews.
BUT, at the end of the day the population at large has to either take responsibility for their votes, or perish as a civilization.
Blaming Jews is not productive.
Lame propaganda can only sway sheeple...
Nazi Germany cleansed Jews from the media and movie industry, and their lies and propaganda mill was even more vomit inducing.

[Leto]

That is the plan of the Democrat party.
Legalize millions of non whites and give them voting rights.
I never denied that most US Jews are in favor of that.
Nor have I denied that Hollywood, anti-gun groups, and the media are severely over-represented by Bolshevik Jews.
BUT, at the end of the day the population at large has to either take responsibility for their votes, or perish as a civilization.
Blaming Jews is not productive.
Lame propaganda can only sway sheeple...
Nazi Germany cleansed Jews from the media and movie industry, and their lies and propaganda mill was even more vomit inducing.
I mostly agree, yes. However, I would add Russophobia as well. I'm against Putin and hate his regime, but claiming he's gonna take over Europe or whatever is nonsense. Never ever gonna happen. That's Hillary and neocon-tier bullshit.

[AK-47]

I mostly agree, yes. However, I would add Russophobia as well. I'm against Putin and hate his regime, but claiming he's gonna take over Europe or whatever is nonsense. Never ever gonna happen. That's Hillary and neocon-tier bullshit.
The Dems and deep-state GOP, have been pushing heavily for war with Russia.
The "media" smear Russia and Putin, like the Nazis vilified the Jews.

[Rethel]

I don't identify as German. I do identify as Prussian though.

Seriously? :shocked: :scratch: :picard2: :coffee:

[PostOak1]

Not anymore.
The Germans are neutered, and they lost their most aggressive male genetic lines in WW2.
Most of their young male generation are cowering in fear, while their women are gang-banged by Muslim mobs in public.
I would worry far more about this crafty bastard.
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/10/31/16/vladimir-putin.jpg

I totally agree. Germans were totally emasculated during and after WW2. If you wanna find German masculinity, you can come over to the rural areas that were settled by Germans in the USA , but the German language is dead.


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[PostOak1]

People try to scapegoat the Jews for a lot of things in the USA, but the “eastern establishment “/Deep State/Military Industrial Complex was primarily started by Yankee WASP from New England. They only allowed Jews and others in later.


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[Token]

Poles and Germans have heavy genetic overlap.
The Nazis really despised Poles.
A form of self loathing by the Germans...:p
Hahahaha, nope. They are unexpectedly far away from each other in a genetic sense considering their geographic location. Poles are far closer to Russians and Ukrainians, in every sense.

[Token]

I see Germans as an artificial Pan-Germanic nation, like Yugoslavia was a Pan-Slavic nation.

I explained it here:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235793-How-many-NW-Europeans-do-we-have-on-here&p=4977448&viewfull=1#post4977448

Sure, my family's DNA results indicate that we might be part Germanic. But it doesn't mean that Germany is not my enemy. Germanic Poles are not Germans. They are just Germanic Poles:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235937-Peterski-s-parents-DNA-results

Poles were never a 100% Slavic nation and having some Germanic or Celtic blood doesn't mean that my land should be "reunited with Germany". It was never German land to begin with.

Goths and Vandals were not modern Germans, and not even ancestors of modern Germans.

Our Piast dynasty dukes invited German settlers, and they should identify as Poles. Poland had 10% Jews as well, but it doesn't make it a Jewish land. They were immigrants here.

Cringe.

[Peterski]

Unfortunately you know nothing about population genetics, Token.

Stick to linguistics or whatever other type of humanity is your job.

Or... learn how to use PLINK and ADMIXTURE, and then we can talk.

[Token]

Unfortunately you know nothing about population genetics, Token.

Stick to linguistics or whatever other type of humanity is your job.

Or... learn how to use PLINK and ADMIXTURE, and then we can talk.

Your posts makes me feel sorry for you, polako.

[Cristiano viejo]

No one cares about DNA and other nerd masturbations in the real world.

True but the question is for people of The Apricity, not for the real world.

My answer is NO, of course!

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Not at all, to do so is autism.

[Bosniensis]

Nobody likes Germans, they have invaded every neighbour they had...

However, apart from destruction of neighbouring nations and war they did some good decisions in WW2 :)

[Leto]

However, apart from destruction of neighbouring nations and war they did some good decisions in WW2 :)
Actually they've made a shitload of scientific inventions and discoveries. I would say more than any other nation.

[Arthur9]

Sure, we all like people who are alike us!

[Carpatz]

Not anymore.
The Germans are neutered, and they lost their most aggressive male genetic lines in WW2.
Most of their young male generation are cowering in fear, while their women are gang-banged by Muslim mobs in public.
I would worry far more about this crafty bastard.
[img]https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/10/31/16/vladimir-putin.jpg]
Pornographic tripe expected from a jew

[Bobby Martnen]

Polish Jews were generally useful people, and not known as criminals or burdens on society.
The Nazis were literally gassing Jewish doctors, all while they're being slaughtered on the Eastern front, and in desperate need of doctors.
Very impractical people the Germans, no common sense.
They literally swapped 500,000 fully assimilated German Jews, for 7 million stone age Muslim migrants.
More Muslims coming to Germany daily...

Agreed. Europe needs to send migrants and their descendants back ASAP.

[Voskos]

Yes. If I see a Cretan Turk for example I'd feel related to them in a way.

[celticdragongod]

Poles and Germans have heavy genetic overlap.
The Nazis really despised Poles.
A form of self loathing by the Germans...:p

And the Jews hate Arabs who also happen to be Semites.

[RenaRyuguu]

yes