Possible sources of my Celtic Y-DNA

[Peterski]

Some of possible sources of my (and my dad's) Y-DNA subclade in Poland:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235937-Peterski-s-parents-DNA-results&p=4982068&viewfull=1#post4982068


Father (Y-DNA R1b-DF27)

There are many possible sources of our Y-DNA subclade, for example:

1. Bell Beakers from Poland (R1b, but probably older than my subclade):

http://bellbeakerblogger.blogspot.com/2017/06/samborzec-beakers-from-maopolska-poland.html

https://genetiker.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/y-snp-calls-for-bell-beaker-genomes/

I4251, Poland, Bell Beaker, 2837–2672 BC, R1b1a1a2~M269
I4253, Poland, Bell Beaker, 2571–2208 BC, R1b1a1a2a2-Z2103
I4252, Poland, Bell Beaker, 2463–2142 BC, R1b1a1a2a1a~L151

^^^
My subclade formed probably around 1800-2000 BC, so it is younger than those Beakers.

2. Archaeologically confirmed areas of Ancient Celtic settlement in Poland:

https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/2016/06/12/nowa-cerekwia-a-major-celtic-settlement-and-economic-complex-in-southern-poland/

https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/2013/09/20/face-of-a-stranger-a-female-burial-from-little-poland/

https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/the-celts-in-poland/

https://balkancelts.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/a-a-a-poland.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Silesia#Celts_in_Silesia_(4th-1st_centuries_BC)

"The Celts migrated to parts of Silesia in at least two waves.[4] The first wave of Celtic settlers came to areas north of the Sudetes at the beginning of the 4th century BC.[4][5] They represented the La Tène culture. Archaeologists found evidence of Celtic presence dating to that period in areas of loess soils to the south of modern Wrocław, between the Bystrzyca river and the Oława river, as well as on the Głubczyce Plateau,[6] where for example a lot of Celtic coins have been found. Perhaps the largest Celtic settlement in Silesia, was the one excavated at Nowa Cerekwia site[7][8] in Upper Silesia - it was comparable in size to Boii settlements at Němčice [9] in Moravia and at Roseldorf in Lower Austria. Another Celtic migration to areas of modern Poland occurred probably in parallel with the invasions of Greece and Macedonia in 279-277 BC.[4] At that time Celtic colonization extended also into modern Lesser Poland and Subcarpathia [Podkarpacie].[10][11]"

https://balkancelts.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/map-s-poland.jpg

https://balkancelts.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/s-poland.jpg?w=640&h=283

3. Settlement of Czech religious refugees (the Czech Brethren) in Greater Poland:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Reformed_Church#16th-18th_centuries

http://www.atlasfontium.pl/index.php?article=zbory

"The Czech Brethren, persecuted by the Czech king Ferdinand I Habsburg fled to Greater Poland (1548), where they settled in the estates of the local aristocrats whom they very quickly converted to their faith. The number of their congregations quickly swelled from 20 in 1555 to 64 in 1570. Their main centre was the city of Leszno, where they were settled under the patronage of the devotedly Reformed Leszczyński family. Thus the Greater Poland Brethren (Jednota Wielkopolska) also called the Czech Brethren, was formed."

Map: http://hgisb.kul.lublin.pl/azm/pmapper-4.2.0/map_default.phtml?resetsession=ALL&config=zbory&language=en

https://i.imgur.com/xNCGsCH.png

4. Scottish settlers in Greater Poland (from the 1500s and 1600s):

https://ngoteka.pl/bitstream/handle/item/280/Szkoci-JW.pdf?sequence=9

[Peterski]

My father's Gencove results:

https://i.imgur.com/D3ciXgj.png

Compared to his DNA Land:

https://i.imgur.com/rI9Z4qx.png

[Bobby Martnen]

@Peterski how many generations back can you trace your direct paternal line?

[Peterski]

@Peterski how many generations back can you trace your direct paternal line?

To the early 1800s, but I wasn't doing any proper genealogical research yet.

So I guess it should be easy to find out at least something about the 1700s.

[Bobby Martnen]

To the early 1800s, but I wasn't doing any proper genealogical research yet.

So I guess it should be easy to find out at least something about the 1700s.

The early 1800s without any genealogical research is really impressive - I could do until the late 1800s without any research, then about a decade and a half ago, some older relatives did research and now I can go to the late 1600s.

Maybe if you're lucky you'll be able to get back to the mid 1600s to see if you're connected to the Czech Brethren.

But why would the Czech Brethren bring Celtic DNA?

[Peterski]

But why would the Czech Brethren bring Celtic DNA?

Celtic Y-DNA is common in Czech Republic. More common than in Poland. Bohemia is a name of Celtic origin.