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Leto
02-23-2018, 06:49 PM
I've posted an Uzbek and an Afghan before. This is another non-European person with a lot of Steppe-related ancestry. He's like 1/3 Scythian

Y-DNA: N1c1
mtDNA: M9a3a

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 34.97
2 East_Asian 21.62
3 West_Asian 12.86
4 Baltic 12.16
5 North_Atlantic 8.6
6 South_Asian 4.6
7 Amerindian 2.69
8 West_Med 1.33
9 Northeast_African 0.75
10 East_Med 0.21
11 Oceanian 0.16
12 Red_Sea 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh 2.75
2 Kirgiz 6.37
3 Hakas 12.94
4 Shors 13.16
5 Altaian 15.34
6 Hazara 16.5
7 Uygur 17.44
8 Uzbeki 17.61
9 Afghan_Turkmen 19.1
10 Mongolian 19.41
11 Aghan_Hazara 20.39
12 Tuvinian 24.69
13 Buryat 28.34
14 Nogay 30.53
15 Ket 33.19
16 Tatar 35.5
17 Mari 35.84
18 Selkup 36.28
19 Afghan_Tadjik 37.38
20 Chuvash 37.47


MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 31.22
2 SouthEastAsian 23.42
3 Caucasian 10.95
4 NorthEastEuropean 8.64
5 Indian 7.12
6 Steppe 6.77
7 Neolithic 4.79
8 Amerindian 4.41
9 Arctic 2.03
10 NorthAfrican 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh (Tien_Shan) 4.38
2 Kazakh (CentralKazakhstan) 5.18
3 Kyrgyz (Murgab) 6.6
4 Kazakh (Kazakhstan) 6.75
5 Kyrgyz (Kyrgyzstan) 7.33
6 Kyrgyz (Alichur) 7.67
7 Karakalpak (Karakalpakstan) 8.24
8 Kyrgyz (Naryn) 8.51
9 Kyrgyz (Tong) 8.83
10 Hakas (Khakassia) 11.01
11 Altaian (Altai) 11.89
12 Uygur (Uzbekistan) 13.09
13 Hazara (Baluchistan) 13.16
14 Uygur (Xinjiang) 13.33
15 Shor (Kemerovo) 14.73
16 Mongolian (Mongolia) 15.36
17 Bashkir (Muradymovo) 16.45
18 Kalmyk (Kalmykia) 16.62
19 Bashkir (Ufa) 17.6
20 Turkmen (Shumanay) 17.66


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 30.37
2 Siberian 25.56
3 North_European 16.34
4 Gedrosia 9.36
5 Caucasus 7.61
6 Atlantic_Med 3.91
7 Southeast_Asian 3.52
8 South_Asian 3.1
9 Southwest_Asian 0.22

1 54.9% Uygur (HGDP) + 45.1% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 6.03
2 67.4% Uygur (HGDP) + 32.6% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 6.73


HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Asian 28.35
2 Siberian 24.54
3 NE-Euro 15.5
4 Baloch 9.95
5 Caucasian 7.58
6 Beringian 4.55
7 S-Indian 3.48
8 Mediterranean 3.46
9 American 1.39
10 SE-Asian 0.75
11 Papuan 0.33
12 SW-Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kazakh (harappa) 5.11
2 kyrgyz (xing) 8.29
3 kyrgyz (hodoglugil) 9.16
4 uyghur (hgdp) 13.32
5 hazara (hgdp) 13.95
6 uzbek (behar) 15.34
7 altaian (rasmussen) 15.99
8 mongolian (rasmussen) 19.48
9 tuvinian (rasmussen) 27.17
10 buryat (xing) 28.66
11 buryat (rasmussen) 30.34
12 oroqen (hgdp) 32.27
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 34.36
14 daur (hgdp) 35.35
15 hezhen (hgdp) 35.85
16 yukaghir (rasmussen) 36.03
17 tajik (yunusbayev) 36.16
18 turkmen (yunusbayev) 36.31
19 nepalese-b (xing) 36.41
20 mongola (hgdp) 36.46

itilvolga
02-23-2018, 07:11 PM
Turkic people are not European but related with Europeans because of being half Caucasoid so what’s interesting here

Leto
02-23-2018, 07:15 PM
Turkic people are not European but related with Europeans because of being half Caucasoid so what’s interesting here
Turkic people are not homogenous to begin with. This person is around 60% mongoloid, while an Azerbaijani would be only 5-7% mong. I simply posted a result for those interested.

Jana
02-23-2018, 07:16 PM
How common N1c among Kazakhs ?

War Chef
02-23-2018, 07:18 PM
Why are you ignoring the Caucasus?

itilvolga
02-23-2018, 07:20 PM
Turkic people are not homogenous to begin with. This person is around 60% mongoloid, while an Azerbaijani would be only 5-7% mong. I simply posted a result for those interested.

Because Azerbaijani Turks are Oghuz. Turkic people existed as half Caucasoid half Mongoloid but some of them are more Caucasoid, others are more Mongoloid. Oghuz Turks have less Mongoloid

Leto
02-23-2018, 07:20 PM
How common N1c among Kazakhs ?
Apparently uncommon. From the Kazakh FTDNA project:

С3 - 42%,
R1a - 18%,
G1 - 12%,
R1b - 6%,
N1 - 5%,
J2 - 4.5%,
O - 4.1%,
D1 - 1%,
J1 - 1%,
Q1 - 2.3%,
R2 - 1.4%.

http://haplogroup.narod.ru/centr_asia.html

And this is from the Kyrgyz FTDNA project:


R1a - 55.3%,
С3 - 25.5%,
O - 8.5%,
N1 - 4.2%,
R1b - 4.2%,
J2 - 2.1%.

Leto
02-23-2018, 07:23 PM
Why are you ignoring the Caucasus?
Are you asking me? First of all, I post only a small part of what I come across. Usually something less common, poorly covered. You can post whatever you want and invite for a dicussion.

Mingle
02-23-2018, 07:26 PM
Interesting. He is VERY distant to Tatars, and to a lesser extent Mongols.

Leto
02-23-2018, 07:29 PM
Interesting. He is VERY distant to Tatars, and to a lesser extent Mongols.
Some say a lot of Mongols were Turkified in the area of present-day Kazakhstan. And Volga Tatars are a predominantly European people. Studies say even much of their East Eurasian is not Mongolian-like, but rather Uralic. I posted a study in another section.

Mingle
02-23-2018, 07:35 PM
Some say a lot of Mongols were Turkified in the area of present-day Kazakhstan. And Volga Tatars are a predominantly European people. Studies say even much of their East Eurasian is not Mongolian-like, but rather Uralic. I posted a study in another section.

Some Kazakh tribes are of Mongol origin. So I was expecting them to be closer.

It's interesting how Tatarstan is a whole other dimension when it's just a stone's throw away from Kazakhstan. It's likely that Northern Kazakhstan was a more even Caucasoid-Mongoloid mix before Russian migrants settled that area. If that area was still Kazak, it might have been less distant (although still very distant) to Tatars. Orenburg also used to be Kazakh in the past.

Also, another thing to keep in mind. The Mongols used here are likely Khalkha Mongols from Central Mongolia. Western Mongolia is Oirat and Oirats are not that far away from Kazakhs. The Kalmyks are ethnic Oirats and are at a distant of "only" @16.

Leto
02-23-2018, 07:42 PM
Some Kazakh tribes are of Mongol origin. So I was expecting them to be closer.

It's interesting how Tatarstan is a whole other dimension when it's just a stone's throw away from Kazakhstan. It's likely that Northern Kazakhstan was a more even Caucasoid-Mongoloid mix before Russian migrants settled that area. If that area was still Kazak, it might have been less distant (although still very distant) to Tatars. Orenburg also used to be Kazakh in the past.

Also, another thing to keep in mind. The Mongols used here are likely Khalkha Mongols from Central Mongolia. Western Mongolia is Oirat and Oirats are not that far away from Kazakhs. The Kalmyks are ethnic Oirats and are at a distant of "only" @16.
The Kazakhs weren't an urban sedentary culture, so they were basically roaming the large swaths of the steppe before we settled and built cities in that region. Transoxania is a different story.
Yes, Kalmyks are closer to Kazakhs, they are around 80% mong "only". They look like they're 100% though. :)

Mingle
02-23-2018, 07:46 PM
The Kazakhs weren't an urban sedentary culture, so they were basically roaming the large swaths of the steppe before we settled and built cities in that region. Transoxania is a different story.

Yes, but my point was that the Kazakh nomads in the north would have been significantly different genetically. Even though they weren't a settled population, they likely mixed with genetically different people and didn't wander that far away from their territory. What happened to them? Did they die, assimilate, or did they migrate south?


Yes, Kalmyks are closer to Kazakhs, they are around 80% mong "only". They look like they're 100% though. :)

The Kalmyks are descended from the Oirats of Northwestern Xinjiang by the way and are survivors of the Dzungar Genocide. The ones in Mongolia may be even closer to Kazakhs considering geography. Also, the Kazakh here is likely from Aktobe or Astana since those are the biggest cities in Kazakhstan. Kazakhs from the east are likely not as distant to Oirats, especially Mongolia Oirats.

Leto
02-23-2018, 07:50 PM
Yes, but my point was that the Kazakh nomads in the north would have been significantly different genetically. Even though they weren't settled there, they likely mixed with genetically different people and didn't wander that far away from their territory. What happened to them? Did they die, assimilate, or did they migrate south?
No idea, honestly.

The Kalmyks are descended from the Oirats of Northwestern Xinjiang by the way and are survivors of the Dzungar Genocide. The ones in Mongolia may be even closer to Kazakhs considering geography. Also, the Kazakh here is likely from Aktobe or Astana since those are the biggest cities in Kazakhstan. Kazakhs from the east are likely not as distant to Oirats, especially Mongolia Oirats.
Well, I think Kazakhs are largely homogeneous by virtue of their nomadic lifestyle. The results I've seen so far were not so different from each other. I've also seen a few Kyrgyz, some were close to 70% mongoloid. The Kazakhs were between 55 and 65% or so.

Mingle
02-23-2018, 08:00 PM
Well, I think Kazakhs are largely homogeneous by virtue of their nomadic lifestyle. The results I've seen so far were not so different from each other. I've also seen a few Kyrgyz, some were close to 70% mongoloid. The Kazakhs were between 55 and 65% or so.

True. He's semi-close to Siberian Turks (Hakas, Shor) so northerners likely wouldn't have been much different.

Zanzibar
02-23-2018, 10:30 PM
No idea, honestly.

Well, I think Kazakhs are largely homogeneous by virtue of their nomadic lifestyle. The results I've seen so far were not so different from each other. I've also seen a few Kyrgyz, some were close to 70% mongoloid. The Kazakhs were between 55 and 65% or so.

Thanks for the result! Agreed, most Kazakh results that I saw on Gedmatch were around 55 to 65% indeed. Most Kyrgyzs that I saw are closer to 65% and some are indeed close to 70% mongoloid.

Regarding Kalmyks, it is interesting to know that they are around 80% mongoloid. Btw, most Outer Mongolian results that I saw are close to 90% Mongoloid with a few being closer to 80% Mong but I don't know which part of Mongolia are these Mongol results from. The most Mongoloid genetically of Mongols that I saw were those from China who can be around 95 to almost 100% Mong but they seem genetically different and have a lot more Chinese like or Korean like admixture.

Demon Revival
02-23-2018, 10:37 PM
Some Kazakh tribes are of Mongol origin. So I was expecting them to be closer.

It's interesting how Tatarstan is a whole other dimension when it's just a stone's throw away from Kazakhstan. It's likely that Northern Kazakhstan was a more even Caucasoid-Mongoloid mix before Russian migrants settled that area. If that area was still Kazak, it might have been less distant (although still very distant) to Tatars. Orenburg also used to be Kazakh in the past.

Also, another thing to keep in mind. The Mongols used here are likely Khalkha Mongols from Central Mongolia. Western Mongolia is Oirat and Oirats are not that far away from Kazakhs. The Kalmyks are ethnic Oirats and are at a distant of "only" @16.

It is less so when you include other intermediary groups like Bashkirs and Nogays (also Kypchak speaking).

And as explained, you can't just use these straight geographic patterns with nomads. Uzbeks and Uyghurs are far more eastern than Kazakhs yet they're still more West Eurasian genetically than them.

Mingle
02-23-2018, 10:42 PM
It is less so when you include other intermediary groups like Bashkirs and Nogays (also Kypchak speaking).

Nogais would probably be closest to Oirats since their far origins are said to be from Inner Mongolia. And even though Kazakhs would be closer to Nogais, it wouldn't be that close. For example, they get @16 regarding the Oirats of Kalmykia which is definitely not close.

Bashkirs are probably not that different to Tatars, but yes, it would be wise to include them as they would be closer to Kazakhs than Tatars. However, the difference between Tatars and Kazakhs is @35! That's greater than the difference between me and Anatolian Turks and we are geographically much more distant to each other. So @35 is HUGE!

Kazakhs and Tatars also look very different on average.


And as explained, you can't just use these straight geographic patterns with nomads. Uzbeks and Uyghurs are far more eastern than Kazakhs yet they're still more West Eurasian genetically than them.

Uzbeks aren't really more eastern.

Both of those are south of Kazakhs and the south-north division is far more significant than the east-west one in Asia, though both are important.

Demon Revival
02-23-2018, 11:23 PM
Nogais would probably be closest to Oirats since their far origins are said to be from Inner Mongolia. And even though Kazakhs would be closer to Nogais, it wouldn't be that close. For example, they get @16 regarding the Oirats of Kalmykia which is definitely not close.

Bashkirs are probably not that different to Tatars, but yes, it would be wise to include them as they would be closer to Kazakhs than Tatars. However, the difference between Tatars and Kazakhs is @35! That's greater than the difference between me and Anatolian Turks and we are geographically much more distant to each other. So @35 is HUGE!

Kazakhs and Tatars also look very different on average.



Uzbeks aren't really more eastern.

Both of those are south of Kazakhs and the south-north division is far more significant than the east-west one in Asia, though both are important.

These are Nogays, I do not think they look close to Oirats:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af18/oditous2/Europe/3479385035_a7e3e41c20_zNogaischoolfoto.jpg~origina l

http://www.outdoors.ru/foto/album/27923.jpg

http://yenicag.ru/files/uploads/2017/06/yencag.ru_2017-06-07_12-01-04-760x506.jpg

http://dagpravda.ru/wp-content/uploads/oldbitrix/rubriki_files/iblock/94e/94e20ad6060d3fbf6e15c9b2bcffaa3d.jpg

http://oi44.tinypic.com/dw3rit.jpg

Leto
02-24-2018, 02:59 PM
Thanks for the result! Agreed, most Kazakh results that I saw on Gedmatch were around 55 to 65% indeed. Most Kyrgyzs that I saw are closer to 65% and some are indeed close to 70% mongoloid.

Regarding Kalmyks, it is interesting to know that they are around 80% mongoloid. Btw, most Outer Mongolian results that I saw are close to 90% Mongoloid with a few being closer to 80% Mong but I don't know which part of Mongolia are these Mongol results from. The most Mongoloid genetically of Mongols that I saw were those from China who can be around 95 to almost 100% Mong but they seem genetically different and have a lot more Chinese like or Korean like admixture.
Agreed 100%.

Let's add his MDLP World results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 31.5
2 North_Asian 24.42
3 North_and_East_European 13.93
4 Caucaus_Parsia 12.13
5 South_and_West_European 8.21
6 Indian 3.72
7 Arctic_Amerind 2.89
8 Middle_East 2.11
9 Mesoamerican 1.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh 4.6
2 Karakalpak 6.39
3 Kyrgyz 8.11
4 Altaic 12.34
5 Uygur 13.04
6 Nivhi 14.12
7 Hakas 14.37
8 Shor 16.6
9 Hazara 16.66
10 Kalmyk 18.29
11 Mongol 19.77
12 Uzbek 20.04
13 Buryat 22.32
14 Bashkir 22.64
15 Tuva 25.35
16 Tatar_Lithuania 27.92
17 Turkmen 32.3
18 Nogai 33.55
19 Oroqen 34.69
20 Mongola 34.75

FilhoV
02-24-2018, 03:22 PM
Amazing results

Thanks Leto for all the work on this section

Porn Master
02-24-2018, 04:58 PM
Why are you ignoring the Caucasus?



Northcaucasians in Russia are like Latinos/Cholos in USA xD and Leto is a local white anglo-saxon xD

Mingle
02-24-2018, 06:45 PM
Agreed 100%.

Let's add his MDLP World results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 31.5
2 North_Asian 24.42
3 North_and_East_European 13.93
4 Caucaus_Parsia 12.13
5 South_and_West_European 8.21
6 Indian 3.72
7 Arctic_Amerind 2.89
8 Middle_East 2.11
9 Mesoamerican 1.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh 4.6
2 Karakalpak 6.39
3 Kyrgyz 8.11
4 Altaic 12.34
5 Uygur 13.04
6 Nivhi 14.12
7 Hakas 14.37
8 Shor 16.6
9 Hazara 16.66
10 Kalmyk 18.29
11 Mongol 19.77
12 Uzbek 20.04
13 Buryat 22.32
14 Bashkir 22.64
15 Tuva 25.35
16 Tatar_Lithuania 27.92
17 Turkmen 32.3
18 Nogai 33.55
19 Oroqen 34.69
20 Mongola 34.75

Bashkirs are the transitional group between Kazakhs and Tatars. I was curious to see how he would score against them. Closer to them than to Tatars, but still very distant. He's even closer to Hazaras than to Bashkirs and about as close to Buryats as to them.

Bosniensis
02-24-2018, 06:50 PM
All Kazakhs are Mongols

Just to remind that Up to 19th century Kazakh rulers were "Gengishid" or "Borjigin" Their blood is from Chagatay Horde and Golden Horde (Sons of Genghis Khan)

Mingle
02-24-2018, 10:30 PM
It is less so when you include other intermediary groups like Bashkirs and Nogays (also Kypchak speaking).

And as explained, you can't just use these straight geographic patterns with nomads. Uzbeks and Uyghurs are far more eastern than Kazakhs yet they're still more West Eurasian genetically than them.There's a result with Bashkirs in it. He's VERY distant to Bashkirs and even closer to Hazaras than to them.

Tatars are significantly closer to Serbs than to Kazakhs. Really a completely separate dimension.

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Zanzibar
02-25-2018, 08:17 AM
Agreed 100%.

Let's add his MDLP World results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 31.5
2 North_Asian 24.42
3 North_and_East_European 13.93
4 Caucaus_Parsia 12.13
5 South_and_West_European 8.21
6 Indian 3.72
7 Arctic_Amerind 2.89
8 Middle_East 2.11
9 Mesoamerican 1.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh 4.6
2 Karakalpak 6.39
3 Kyrgyz 8.11
4 Altaic 12.34
5 Uygur 13.04
6 Nivhi 14.12
7 Hakas 14.37
8 Shor 16.6
9 Hazara 16.66
10 Kalmyk 18.29
11 Mongol 19.77
12 Uzbek 20.04
13 Buryat 22.32
14 Bashkir 22.64
15 Tuva 25.35
16 Tatar_Lithuania 27.92
17 Turkmen 32.3
18 Nogai 33.55
19 Oroqen 34.69
20 Mongola 34.75

He seem to be around 36.38% Caucasoid from adding up Western components although the Indian might hide a bit more Caucasoid alleles. Where in Kazakhstan is he from? Also I heard of ethnic Kazakhs in Xinjiang and Mongolia, wondering would they be more Mongoloid than the ones in Kazakhstan?

Also I have this interesting result, I think she is Mongolian as she scores similar East Asian and Siberian/North Asian ancestry to the other Mongols but Im not sure if she is from Outer Mongolia or from China. Another thing is she is at least 94 to 95% Mong which is more East Eurasian than the Mongols from Mongolia. Should I show you the results and can you tell whether she is from Mongolia or Northern China?

Leto
02-25-2018, 01:34 PM
He seem to be around 36.38% Caucasoid from adding up Western components although the Indian might hide a bit more Caucasoid alleles. Where in Kazakhstan is he from? Also I heard of ethnic Kazakhs in Xinjiang and Mongolia, wondering would they be more Mongoloid than the ones in Kazakhstan?

Also I have this interesting result, I think she is Mongolian as she scores similar East Asian and Siberian/North Asian ancestry to the other Mongols but Im not sure if she is from Outer Mongolia or from China. Another thing is she is at least 94 to 95% Mong which is more East Eurasian than the Mongols from Mongolia. Should I show you the results and can you tell whether she is from Mongolia or Northern China?
Don't know where specifically he is from.
No, honestly I know little about Mongol variations. But perhaps the Chinese ones are mixed with Han or something like that. Buryats are slightly more mongoloid than Khalkha Mongols too. They are close to 90% or so.

FilhoV
11-22-2018, 02:30 PM
I've posted an Uzbek and an Afghan before. This is another non-European person with a lot of Steppe-related ancestry. He's like 1/3 Scythian

Y-DNA: N1c1
mtDNA: M9a3a

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 34.97
2 East_Asian 21.62
3 West_Asian 12.86
4 Baltic 12.16
5 North_Atlantic 8.6
6 South_Asian 4.6
7 Amerindian 2.69
8 West_Med 1.33
9 Northeast_African 0.75
10 East_Med 0.21
11 Oceanian 0.16
12 Red_Sea 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh 2.75
2 Kirgiz 6.37
3 Hakas 12.94
4 Shors 13.16
5 Altaian 15.34
6 Hazara 16.5
7 Uygur 17.44
8 Uzbeki 17.61
9 Afghan_Turkmen 19.1
10 Mongolian 19.41
11 Aghan_Hazara 20.39
12 Tuvinian 24.69
13 Buryat 28.34
14 Nogay 30.53
15 Ket 33.19
16 Tatar 35.5
17 Mari 35.84
18 Selkup 36.28
19 Afghan_Tadjik 37.38
20 Chuvash 37.47


MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 31.22
2 SouthEastAsian 23.42
3 Caucasian 10.95
4 NorthEastEuropean 8.64
5 Indian 7.12
6 Steppe 6.77
7 Neolithic 4.79
8 Amerindian 4.41
9 Arctic 2.03
10 NorthAfrican 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh (Tien_Shan) 4.38
2 Kazakh (CentralKazakhstan) 5.18
3 Kyrgyz (Murgab) 6.6
4 Kazakh (Kazakhstan) 6.75
5 Kyrgyz (Kyrgyzstan) 7.33
6 Kyrgyz (Alichur) 7.67
7 Karakalpak (Karakalpakstan) 8.24
8 Kyrgyz (Naryn) 8.51
9 Kyrgyz (Tong) 8.83
10 Hakas (Khakassia) 11.01
11 Altaian (Altai) 11.89
12 Uygur (Uzbekistan) 13.09
13 Hazara (Baluchistan) 13.16
14 Uygur (Xinjiang) 13.33
15 Shor (Kemerovo) 14.73
16 Mongolian (Mongolia) 15.36
17 Bashkir (Muradymovo) 16.45
18 Kalmyk (Kalmykia) 16.62
19 Bashkir (Ufa) 17.6
20 Turkmen (Shumanay) 17.66


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 30.37
2 Siberian 25.56
3 North_European 16.34
4 Gedrosia 9.36
5 Caucasus 7.61
6 Atlantic_Med 3.91
7 Southeast_Asian 3.52
8 South_Asian 3.1
9 Southwest_Asian 0.22

1 54.9% Uygur (HGDP) + 45.1% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 6.03
2 67.4% Uygur (HGDP) + 32.6% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 6.73


HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Asian 28.35
2 Siberian 24.54
3 NE-Euro 15.5
4 Baloch 9.95
5 Caucasian 7.58
6 Beringian 4.55
7 S-Indian 3.48
8 Mediterranean 3.46
9 American 1.39
10 SE-Asian 0.75
11 Papuan 0.33
12 SW-Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kazakh (harappa) 5.11
2 kyrgyz (xing) 8.29
3 kyrgyz (hodoglugil) 9.16
4 uyghur (hgdp) 13.32
5 hazara (hgdp) 13.95
6 uzbek (behar) 15.34
7 altaian (rasmussen) 15.99
8 mongolian (rasmussen) 19.48
9 tuvinian (rasmussen) 27.17
10 buryat (xing) 28.66
11 buryat (rasmussen) 30.34
12 oroqen (hgdp) 32.27
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 34.36
14 daur (hgdp) 35.35
15 hezhen (hgdp) 35.85
16 yukaghir (rasmussen) 36.03
17 tajik (yunusbayev) 36.16
18 turkmen (yunusbayev) 36.31
19 nepalese-b (xing) 36.41
20 mongola (hgdp) 36.46

Great find mind sharing the kit

Rgvgjhvv
07-19-2019, 03:34 AM
Cool

Leto
07-23-2019, 07:40 AM
I've posted an Uzbek and an Afghan before. This is another non-European person with a lot of Steppe-related ancestry. He's like 1/3 Scythian

Y-DNA: N1c1
mtDNA: M9a3a

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 34.97
2 East_Asian 21.62
3 West_Asian 12.86
4 Baltic 12.16
5 North_Atlantic 8.6
6 South_Asian 4.6
7 Amerindian 2.69
8 West_Med 1.33
9 Northeast_African 0.75
10 East_Med 0.21
11 Oceanian 0.16
12 Red_Sea 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh 2.75
2 Kirgiz 6.37
3 Hakas 12.94
4 Shors 13.16
5 Altaian 15.34
6 Hazara 16.5
7 Uygur 17.44
8 Uzbeki 17.61
9 Afghan_Turkmen 19.1
10 Mongolian 19.41
11 Aghan_Hazara 20.39
12 Tuvinian 24.69
13 Buryat 28.34
14 Nogay 30.53
15 Ket 33.19
16 Tatar 35.5
17 Mari 35.84
18 Selkup 36.28
19 Afghan_Tadjik 37.38
20 Chuvash 37.47


MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 31.22
2 SouthEastAsian 23.42
3 Caucasian 10.95
4 NorthEastEuropean 8.64
5 Indian 7.12
6 Steppe 6.77
7 Neolithic 4.79
8 Amerindian 4.41
9 Arctic 2.03
10 NorthAfrican 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh (Tien_Shan) 4.38
2 Kazakh (CentralKazakhstan) 5.18
3 Kyrgyz (Murgab) 6.6
4 Kazakh (Kazakhstan) 6.75
5 Kyrgyz (Kyrgyzstan) 7.33
6 Kyrgyz (Alichur) 7.67
7 Karakalpak (Karakalpakstan) 8.24
8 Kyrgyz (Naryn) 8.51
9 Kyrgyz (Tong) 8.83
10 Hakas (Khakassia) 11.01
11 Altaian (Altai) 11.89
12 Uygur (Uzbekistan) 13.09
13 Hazara (Baluchistan) 13.16
14 Uygur (Xinjiang) 13.33
15 Shor (Kemerovo) 14.73
16 Mongolian (Mongolia) 15.36
17 Bashkir (Muradymovo) 16.45
18 Kalmyk (Kalmykia) 16.62
19 Bashkir (Ufa) 17.6
20 Turkmen (Shumanay) 17.66


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 30.37
2 Siberian 25.56
3 North_European 16.34
4 Gedrosia 9.36
5 Caucasus 7.61
6 Atlantic_Med 3.91
7 Southeast_Asian 3.52
8 South_Asian 3.1
9 Southwest_Asian 0.22

1 54.9% Uygur (HGDP) + 45.1% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 6.03
2 67.4% Uygur (HGDP) + 32.6% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 6.73


HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Asian 28.35
2 Siberian 24.54
3 NE-Euro 15.5
4 Baloch 9.95
5 Caucasian 7.58
6 Beringian 4.55
7 S-Indian 3.48
8 Mediterranean 3.46
9 American 1.39
10 SE-Asian 0.75
11 Papuan 0.33
12 SW-Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 kazakh (harappa) 5.11
2 kyrgyz (xing) 8.29
3 kyrgyz (hodoglugil) 9.16
4 uyghur (hgdp) 13.32
5 hazara (hgdp) 13.95
6 uzbek (behar) 15.34
7 altaian (rasmussen) 15.99
8 mongolian (rasmussen) 19.48
9 tuvinian (rasmussen) 27.17
10 buryat (xing) 28.66
11 buryat (rasmussen) 30.34
12 oroqen (hgdp) 32.27
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 34.36
14 daur (hgdp) 35.35
15 hezhen (hgdp) 35.85
16 yukaghir (rasmussen) 36.03
17 tajik (yunusbayev) 36.16
18 turkmen (yunusbayev) 36.31
19 nepalese-b (xing) 36.41
20 mongola (hgdp) 36.46
MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Tungus-Altaic 26.81
2 East_Siberian 13.6
3 South_East_Asian 10.59
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.6
5 Caucasian 9.56
6 South_Central_Asian 7.94
7 Ancestral_Altaic 6.53
8 Austronesian 4.59
9 South_Indian 2.86
10 Paleo_Siberian 2.23
11 Amerindian 1.99
12 European_Early_Farmers 1.68
13 Arctic 1.03
14 North_African 0.44
15 East_African 0.3
16 Archaic_African 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazahs ( ) 4.24
2 Kazakh ( ) 7.74
3 Kyrgyz_Bishkek ( ) 8.96
4 Kyrgyz ( ) 12.2
5 Tatar-Siberian ( ) 12.95
6 Karakalpak ( ) 13.27
7 Hazara ( ) 13.45
8 Uygur ( ) 13.57
9 Uygur-Han ( ) 15.99
10 Uzbek ( ) 18.56
11 Altaian ( ) 19.55
12 Bashkir ( ) 19.63
13 Turkmen_Afghan ( ) 20.03
14 Hakas ( ) 20.82
15 Mongolian ( ) 21.39
16 Kalmyk ( ) 21.43
17 Tajik_Tajikistan ( ) 21.6
18 Even ( ) 23.31
19 Yukagir_Forest ( ) 24.02
20 Tuvinian ( ) 24.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.3% Kazahs ( ) + 6.7% Mari ( ) @ 3.76
2 95.4% Kazahs ( ) + 4.6% Selkup ( ) @ 3.78
3 86.7% Kazahs ( ) + 13.3% Tatar-Siberian ( ) @ 3.79
4 97.6% Kazahs ( ) + 2.4% Ho ( ) @ 3.79
5 96.3% Kazahs ( ) + 3.7% Ket ( ) @ 3.8
6 92.6% Kazahs ( ) + 7.4% Even ( ) @ 3.81
7 96.3% Kazahs ( ) + 3.7% Mansi ( ) @ 3.82
8 96.8% Kazahs ( ) + 3.2% Khant ( ) @ 3.83
9 93.9% Kazahs ( ) + 6.1% Saami ( ) @ 3.84
10 93.8% Kazahs ( ) + 6.2% Saami_Finland ( ) @ 3.84
11 96.8% Kazahs ( ) + 3.2% Nenets ( ) @ 3.84
12 98.2% Kazahs ( ) + 1.8% Pulliyar ( ) @ 3.85
13 97.9% Kazahs ( ) + 2.1% Bhunjia ( ) @ 3.85
14 98% Kazahs ( ) + 2% Santhal ( ) @ 3.85
15 98.2% Kazahs ( ) + 1.8% Paniya ( ) @ 3.86
16 97.9% Kazahs ( ) + 2.1% Dhurwa ( ) @ 3.86
17 97.3% Kazahs ( ) + 2.7% Nenets_Forest ( ) @ 3.87
18 97.2% Kazahs ( ) + 2.8% Nenets_Tundra ( ) @ 3.87
19 97.9% Kazahs ( ) + 2.1% Kharia ( ) @ 3.87
20 93.3% Kazahs ( ) + 6.7% Yukagir_Forest ( ) @ 3.88

Leto
07-23-2019, 07:44 AM
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Siberian 34.97
2 East_Asian 21.62
3 West_Asian 12.86
4 Baltic 12.16
5 North_Atlantic 8.6
6 South_Asian 4.6
7 Amerindian 2.69
8 West_Med 1.33
9 Northeast_African 0.75
10 East_Med 0.21
11 Oceanian 0.16
12 Red_Sea 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh 2.75
2 Kirgiz 6.37
3 Hakas 12.94
4 Shors 13.16
5 Altaian 15.34
6 Hazara 16.5
7 Uygur 17.44
8 Uzbeki 17.61
9 Afghan_Turkmen 19.1
10 Mongolian 19.41
11 Aghan_Hazara 20.39
12 Tuvinian 24.69
13 Buryat 28.34
14 Nogay 30.53
15 Ket 33.19
16 Tatar 35.5
17 Mari 35.84
18 Selkup 36.28
19 Afghan_Tadjik 37.38
20 Chuvash 37.47
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kazakh 2.74
2 Kirgiz 6.37
3 Hakas 12.93
4 Shors 13.16
5 Altaian 15.34
6 Hazara 16.5
7 Uygur 17.44
8 Uzbeki 17.6
9 Afghan_Turkmen 19.09
10 Mongolian 19.41
11 Aghan_Hazara 20.39
12 Tuvinian 24.69
13 Buryat 28.34
14 Nogay 30.52
15 Ket 33.18
16 Tatar 35.49
17 Mari 35.83
18 Selkup 36.27
19 Afghan_Tadjik 37.38
20 Chuvash 37.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.8% Kazakh + 3.2% Punjabi_Jat @ 1.98
2 97.1% Kazakh + 2.9% Brahmin_UP @ 2.02
3 96.8% Kazakh + 3.2% Kalash @ 2.03
4 96.5% Kazakh + 3.5% Burusho @ 2.07
5 97.3% Kazakh + 2.7% Gujarati @ 2.08
6 97.3% Kazakh + 2.7% Kshatriya @ 2.08
7 96.9% Kazakh + 3.1% Pathan @ 2.08
8 97.2% Kazakh + 2.8% Sindhi @ 2.1
9 95.8% Kazakh + 4.2% Tadjik @ 2.11
10 96.5% Kazakh + 3.5% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.11
11 97.6% Kazakh + 2.4% Kanjar @ 2.16
12 97.6% Kazakh + 2.4% Dharkar @ 2.16
13 97.8% Kazakh + 2.2% Kol @ 2.18
14 97.7% Kazakh + 2.3% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.19
15 97.2% Kazakh + 2.8% Danish @ 2.2
16 97.4% Kazakh + 2.6% Bangladeshi @ 2.2
17 97.3% Kazakh + 2.7% Irish @ 2.2
18 97.2% Kazakh + 2.8% North_German @ 2.2
19 97.3% Kazakh + 2.7% Norwegian @ 2.2
20 97.3% Kazakh + 2.7% West_Scottish @ 2.21

Peterski
07-23-2019, 09:00 AM
Mein Freund, do you see any differences between Kazakhs from different regions of Kazakhstan?