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Pallantides
02-05-2011, 05:01 PM
Her mother is Finnish, her father is part Finland-Swede and Swedish
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Redar14
03-06-2011, 05:05 PM
Ladogan ?

aherne
03-06-2011, 06:41 PM
Uralic and ugly as hell... Why even ask?

Peerkons
03-06-2011, 06:43 PM
East Baltid-Lappid
alcoholic eyes

Frol
03-06-2011, 06:49 PM
with some mongoloid influence

Redar14
03-06-2011, 06:56 PM
East Baltid-Lappid

East Baltic= Ladogan ( Lappid with small eastern nordic influence)

Loki
03-06-2011, 07:22 PM
Björkoid

Lenny
03-06-2011, 07:48 PM
East Baltic= Ladogan ( Lappid with small eastern nordic influence)

According to SNPA (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#LAPPOID) this is not the definition of of East-Baltic.

A few definitions, as I understand them:

1.) Baltid: A bracycephalic Cro-Magnon type forming a significant part of northern-Europe's racial stock. When mixing with Nordoids and Lappoids produces a steady continuum:

2.) The Baltid Spectrum:
West-Baltid -- Baltid -- East Baltid
[Nordid Infl.] --------- [Lappoid infl.]

3.) Theoretical Pure Lappid: Type once common among Lapps (Saami). Mixing has overwhelmed their genepool, and the actual Saami (Lapps) born today below the Midnight Sun look more East-Baltic. It is unclear to me if there are any pure Lappids left in Europe. Their genes survive, but not in a stable genepool.

4.) Ladogan: Another term for Lappoid.

5.) "-oid": Resembling a type but not necessarily its perfect exponent. "-id" is a more precise label. The OP girl is definitely not a Lappid, but might be thought by some a Lappoid, which defacto would mean an extreme East-Baltid.

Aviane
03-06-2011, 08:01 PM
Baltid-Lappid.

could pass as Russian or other Scandinavian countries.

Norbert
03-06-2011, 08:13 PM
Extreme East-Baltid, that is, more Lappoid than the standard East-Baltid. There may be some Alpiniod strain also.

Redar14
03-06-2011, 08:26 PM
According to SNPA (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#LAPPOID) this is not the definition of of East-Baltic.

A few definitions, as I understand them:

1.) Baltid: A bracycephalic Cro-Magnon type forming a significant part of northern-Europe's racial stock. When mixing with Nordoids and Lappoids produces a steady continuum:

2.) The Baltid Spectrum:
West-Baltid -- Baltid -- East Baltid
[Nordid Infl.] --------- [Lappoid infl.]

3.) Theoretical Pure Lappoid: Type once common among Lapps (Saami). Mixing has overwhelmed their genepool, and the actual Saami (Lapps) born today below the Midnight Sun look more East-Baltid. It is unclear to me if there are any pure Lappids left in Europe. Their genes survive, but not in a stable genepool.

4.) Ladogan: Another term for Lappoid.

5.) "-oid": Resembling a type but not necessarily its perfect exponent. "-id" is a more precise label. The OP girl is definitely not a Lappid, but might be thought by some a Lappoid, which defacto would mean an extreme East-Baltid.

I know this theories but In my opinion they are not true because the not consider genetics tests and some anthropological research ( I recommend Jan Czekanowski).

This is in my opinion true definition of Baltic race:

Baltic Race = mix between eastern nordic type (or north pontid) and lappid type.
Eastern Baltic race= lappid type with small eastern nordic influence.

Eastern nordic type - Haplogroup R1a
Lappid type - Haplogroup N

kwp_wp
03-06-2011, 08:35 PM
Uralic and ugly as hell... Why even ask?

...Why even mention it?

btw, she's not ugly in my assessment

as for her classification : Baltid + Ladogan IMO

Lenny
03-06-2011, 08:39 PM
This is in my opinion true definition of Baltic race:

Baltic Race = mix between eastern nordic type (or north pontid) and lappid type.
You raise an interesting point here:
What is the term in the scheme used by SNPA and most others for a Nordid base with Lappoid influence? (Also in your scheme you have no term for CM-Lappoid?)

This was, perhaps, the hole Coon was trying to fill when he coined the term "Neo-Danubian (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss2.htm#NEO-DANUBIAN)".

EDIT: Nordid+Lappoid (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24601), new thread on this subject.