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Український пат
02-25-2018, 03:30 PM
CREATED BY: український пат and Decius

MAP:
https://i.imgur.com/EzbQCEo.png

CATEGORY OF COUNTRIES:

85%-90%: Turkey, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Jordan

90%-95%: Finland, Russia, Armenia, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia

95%-97%: Ukraine, Romania

97%-98%: Latvia, Belarus, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Georgia

98%-99%: Lithuania, British Isles, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Greece, Cyprus, Iberian Penninsula

99%>: France, Italy, Albania

No data available: Remaining countries in grey

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Leto
02-25-2018, 03:39 PM
Ethnic Russians are not 85-90% on average, but around 95%. 90% is the lower end of the range.

Український пат
02-25-2018, 03:40 PM
Ethnic Russians are not 85-90% on average, but around 95%. 90% is the lowest end of the range.

We included Russians in the 90-95 range

Leto
02-25-2018, 03:41 PM
We included Russians in the 90-95 range
My bad. I see now.

Kelmendasi
02-25-2018, 03:42 PM
So Albanians are ultra West-Eurasians ;)

Український пат
02-25-2018, 03:43 PM
So Albanians are ultra West-Eurasians ;)

We included your harrapa world result as part of the albanian samples :D

Leto
02-25-2018, 03:43 PM
So Albanians are ultra West-Eurasians ;)
Well, Albanians indeed have very little non-Caucasoid admixture judging by the results I've seen.

Mingle
02-25-2018, 03:50 PM
I thought Greece would have also been <99%. I guess they have a tiny bit of East Eurasian from mixing with Turks?

Український пат
02-25-2018, 03:53 PM
I thought Greece would have also been <99%. I guess they have a tiny bit of East Eurasian from mixing with Turks?

Yeah I guess so

MercifulServant
02-25-2018, 03:58 PM
COMPONENTS INCLUDED FOR WEST EURASIAN: Caucasian, NE Euro, Mediteranean, SW Asian, Baloch

Leto
02-25-2018, 04:18 PM
COMPONENTS INCLUDED FOR WEST EURASIAN: Caucasian, NE Euro, Mediteranean, SW Asian, Baloch
I'm total 93.34%. But the American may include some Caucasoid, probably an ANE link or something like that. I'm 0.65% American. So perhaps I'm rather around 94%.

My dad is 96.8% (plus 0.16% Indian and 0.21% American)
My mom is 90.5% (plus 0.3% Indian and 0.67% American)

MercifulServant
02-25-2018, 07:16 PM
I'm total 93.34%. But the American may include some Caucasoid, probably an ANE link or something like that. I'm 0.65% American. So perhaps I'm rather around 94%.

My dad is 96.8% (plus 0.16% Indian and 0.21% American)
My mom is 90.5% (plus 0.3% Indian and 0.67% American)

There might be an ANE link but it could also be misnterpreted east asian. The point is we will not know for sure so the best thing is to leave americas out of caucasoid. as for S Indian it is most likely a much more australoid then caucasoid component

greasycaveman
02-25-2018, 07:22 PM
# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 52.78
2 Mediterranean 25.42
3 Baloch 9.15
4 Caucasian 8.67
5 SW-Asian 1.87
6 NE-Asian 1.05
7 Siberian 0.91
8 San 0.15

97.89 :cool:

Leto
02-25-2018, 07:30 PM
Korean:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Asian 74.76
2 SE-Asian 13.7
3 Siberian 10.24
4 Beringian 0.94
5 Papuan 0.28
6 American 0.04
7 W-African 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 japanese (hgdp) 2.85


Chinese:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Asian 66.42
2 SE-Asian 31.83
3 Siberian 0.83
4 Papuan 0.45
5 S-Indian 0.3
6 American 0.1
7 Beringian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 han (hgdp) 1.18

I'm more American than them, lol.

greasycaveman
02-25-2018, 07:37 PM
I wonder why i get more SW-asian 1.87 then i get siberian, and north east asian.. 1.05, 0.91

Leto
02-25-2018, 07:40 PM
I wonder why i get more SW-asian 1.87 then i get siberian, and north east asian.. 1.05, 0.91
SW Asian is Arabian.

Mingle
02-25-2018, 07:43 PM
Out of curiosity, why did you guys choose HarappaWorld for this? Was it just random or do you think it's more accurate than others?

MercifulServant
02-25-2018, 07:50 PM
Out of curiosity, why did you guys choose HarappaWorld for this? Was it just random or do you think it's more accurate than others?

It seems like a decent calculator with realistic percentages and it seems to have an okay reputation. We also chose it because one day I was just looking at my harrapa world results and then we got the idea of making this map.

Mingle
02-25-2018, 07:53 PM
It seems like a decent calculator with realistic percentages and it seems to have an okay reputation. We also chose it because one day I was just looking at my harrapa world results and then we got the idea of making this map.

It's slightly outdated as it doesn't have the Gedrosia component which was discovered in mid-2016, but that doesn't impact the results here, and it's otherwise pretty decent.

Hadouken
02-25-2018, 07:53 PM
I am 93.7 %

if the America component has some caucasoid in it as Leto said then lets round up to 94%

Leto
02-25-2018, 07:55 PM
It's slightly outdated as it doesn't have the Gedrosia component which was discovered in mid-2016, but that doesn't impact the results here, and it's otherwise pretty decent.
Baloch is Gedrosia.

Leto
02-25-2018, 08:01 PM
North American native:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 American 76.78
2 Beringian 11.77
3 Siberian 5.89
4 NE-Asian 4.42
5 NE-Euro 0.77
6 Baloch 0.22
7 S-Indian 0.16

Chukchi (Far Eastern native):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Beringian 68.36
2 Siberian 15.87
3 American 9.61
4 NE-Asian 5.81
5 SE-Asian 0.3
6 Baloch 0.03
7 Pygmy 0.02

MercifulServant
02-25-2018, 08:05 PM
North American native:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 American 76.78
2 Beringian 11.77
3 Siberian 5.89
4 NE-Asian 4.42
5 NE-Euro 0.77
6 Baloch 0.22
7 S-Indian 0.16

Chukchi (Far Eastern native):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Beringian 68.36
2 Siberian 15.87
3 American 9.61
4 NE-Asian 5.81
5 SE-Asian 0.3
6 Baloch 0.03
7 Pygmy 0.02

Do you have any Ethnic German results? It would help with the map

Böri
02-25-2018, 08:07 PM
Greeks are 0% East Eurasian. Harrapa doesnt show the Horn African (Red Sea) component which is 3 to 12% in Greeks depending on region.

Leto
02-25-2018, 08:10 PM
Do you have any Ethnic German results? It would help with the map
I might have some, but Germans are quite diverse, I wouldn't take 2-3 random people as average. You need more and all should have 4 German grandparents if you want more reliable data.

This is a German from Hessen:
A460496

This one is a Russian German but a pure one, not half or quarter Russian:
H979297

Thambi
02-25-2018, 08:11 PM
COMPONENTS INCLUDED FOR WEST EURASIAN: Caucasian, NE Euro, Mediteranean, SW Asian, Baloch

If we go by these components then I'm 42.73% West eurasian. Not sure how much of South indian is west eurasian. Maybe half?

MercifulServant
02-25-2018, 08:15 PM
If we go by these components then I'm 42.73% West eurasian. Not sure how much of South indian is west eurasian. Maybe half?

Maybe so but I cant include it because it would get messy plus most of the countries on the map dont have that much S Indian

Hadouken
02-25-2018, 08:18 PM
Maybe so but I cant include it because it would get messy plus most of the countries on the map dont have that much S Indian

most of it is not west eurasian I think

but since the map/thread is about europe and "mena" it doesnt matter anyway since the score is too low (if existing) to even think about it

Mingle
02-25-2018, 08:18 PM
Baloch is Gedrosia.

My bad :lol: I forgot they had that. But I have heard from others that it's outdated.

Mingle
02-25-2018, 08:19 PM
Greeks are 0% East Eurasian. Harrapa doesnt show the Horn African (Red Sea) component which is 3 to 12% in Greeks depending on region.

Isn't that SW Asian?

Thambi
02-25-2018, 08:32 PM
Maybe so but I cant include it because it would get messy plus most of the countries on the map dont have that much S Indian

Pretty cool map btw. Some of the results are surprising. I just realized that georgia is more caucasoid than russia. It makes sense since russians do have slight siberian/NE asian admix but never really thought about it until you put all of it on the map.

Kelmendasi
02-25-2018, 08:40 PM
I am 99.58% West Eurasian if I am remembering my non west Eurasian scores correctly

MercifulServant
02-25-2018, 08:45 PM
I am 99.58% West Eurasian if I am remembering my non west Eurasian scores correctly

I was 98.2% Or something like that

MercifulServant
02-26-2018, 08:51 PM
Bump

jingorex
02-26-2018, 09:57 PM
what does this mean?


# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 47.48
2 Mediterranean 30.73
3 Caucasian 9.89
4 Baloch 8.74
5 SW-Asian 1.30
6 American 1.25

Kelmendasi
02-26-2018, 10:13 PM
what does this mean?


# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 47.48
2 Mediterranean 30.73
3 Caucasian 9.89
4 Baloch 8.74
5 SW-Asian 1.30
6 American 1.25
You are 98.14% West Eurasian

Pahli
02-26-2018, 10:30 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.79
2 Baloch 27.95
3 SW-Asian 13.29
4 Mediterranean 8.05
5 NE-Euro 4.3
6 S-Indian 2.99
7 Siberian 0.96
8 American 0.67
9 San 0.63
10 Papuan 0.28
11 E-African 0.07
12 Beringian 0.01

94,39% West Eurasian

Petalpusher
02-27-2018, 08:52 AM
I thought i could make it but no, only 99.81%


Population
S-Indian -
Baloch 7.43
Caucasian 10.75
NE-Euro 43.19
SE-Asian -
Siberian -
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American -
Beringian 0.19
Mediterranean 36.70
SW-Asian 1.74
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -


My grandmother is the only one in the family scoring 100% W.Eurasian.

Mingle
02-27-2018, 01:21 PM
I thought i could make it but no, only 99.81%


Population
S-Indian-
Baloch7.43
Caucasian10.75
NE-Euro43.19
SE-Asian-
Siberian-
NE-Asian-
Papuan-
American-
Beringian0.19
Mediterranean36.70
SW-Asian1.74
San-
E-African-
Pygmy-
W-African-


My grandmother is the only one in the family scoring 100% W.Eurasian.Do you get 100% WE on most calcs?

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Gangrel
02-27-2018, 01:37 PM
89.99% West Eurasian lmao

Leto
02-27-2018, 01:48 PM
89.99% West Eurasian lmao
Let us say just 90% :)

Pahli
02-27-2018, 01:51 PM
89.99% West Eurasian lmao

0.01% from 90%, get out of here kardesh

Mingle
02-27-2018, 02:13 PM
I get 75.9% WE on this calc but close to half of that 24.1% is probably West Eurasian. I think ANE K7 would be the best calc for those of us with significant South Asian DNA, but it leaks some of our DNA into SSA (which is most likely ANE or some other form of West Eurasian that got leaked cause of the calc's flaws).

Petalpusher
02-27-2018, 06:47 PM
Do you get 100% WE on most calcs?

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Depends what you consider West Eurasian, theorically it's everything not African, E.Asian or Australian, i rarely score any of those in calculators so it reflects that here. I would expect Basques and N.Italians in particular to also score close to 100%.

Böri
02-27-2018, 06:58 PM
Depends what you consider West Eurasian, theorically it's everything not African, E.Asian or Australian, i rarely score any of those in calculators so it reflects that here. I would expect Basques and N.Italians in particular to also score close to 100%.

Cote D Azur is Med coast of France. If all your ancestry is from there it's hard you aren't 1% African. Area of Marseille was colonized by Phoenico-Greeks during 1st millenia BC. During 8th century AD, Arabs controlled that part of France (Septimania and around) for 40 years. French people from that area are Med racial type, not all but it's widespread İ guess.

Leto
02-27-2018, 07:28 PM
Cote D Azur is Med coast of France. If all your ancestry is from there it's hard you aren't 1% African. Area of Marseille was colonized by Phoenico-Greeks during 1st millenia BC. During 8th century AD, Arabs controlled that part of France (Septimania and around) for 40 years. French people from that area are Med racial type, not all but it's widespread İ guess.
No European outside the extreme South is 1% African. You Turks are more African than them, because you had some slaves and also a few assimilated Arabs.

Smeagol
02-27-2018, 07:35 PM
Greeks are 0% East Eurasian. Harrapa doesnt show the Horn African (Red Sea) component which is 3 to 12% in Greeks depending on region.

Red Sea is not Horn African.

Jana
02-27-2018, 07:45 PM
I am in 98 % range. Stears in 95 %.

Leto
02-27-2018, 07:50 PM
Stears in 95 %.
I'm so glad that smug and arrogant phony was blown the fuck out. I mean it's fine to love your country, culture and stuff like that, but why attack and insult literally everyone for no reason, especially people from the same region as you? Cringe.

Petalpusher
02-27-2018, 07:51 PM
Cote D Azur is Med coast of France. If all your ancestry is from there it's hard you aren't 1% African. Area of Marseille was colonized by Phoenico-Greeks during 1st millenia BC. During 8th century AD, Arabs controlled that part of France (Septimania and around) for 40 years. French people from that area are Med racial type, not all but it's widespread İ guess.

There s no African admixture in southern France, actually it's maybe the lowest in Europe or one of the lowest, in a similar way it is non existent in Basques and N.Italians. We also now have ancient dna from Provence, not only the BA wasn't like you imagine but it was even Dutch like, some have still that shift, maternal side is like that. Provence has a big range, some are almost N.Italians, like in Nice where the sample is from, but a few km away there is a big difference and many overlap rather with eastern or even northern France, they appear like half N.Italian half northern Europe already.

Provence is almost as big as Switzerland and bigger than many small countries in Europe, Marseille is just one town. Exactly like Paris which is highly Jewish admixed, yet the moment you step outside of it it's regular northern France genetically.

Jana
02-27-2018, 07:52 PM
I'm so glad that smug and arrogant phony was blown the fuck out. I mean it's fine to love your country, culture and stuff like that, but why attack and insult literally everyone for no reason, especially people from the same region as you? Cringe.

You don't know him. He likes to troll. In real life he is perfectly polite and unassuming :)

Leto
02-27-2018, 07:58 PM
Provence is almost as big as Switzerland and bigger than many small countries in Europe, Marseille is just one town. Exactly like Paris which is highly Jewish admixed, yet the moment you step outside of it it's regular northern France genetically.
Is it true that Northern France is close to the British Isles?

Kouros
02-27-2018, 08:01 PM
A random mainland Greek you pull of the street won't score above 5% red sea at the max. The average in the spreadsheet is literally 3% (including isanders) and lower then Turkey's. Still lol'ing at this Turkish freak and his obsession with Cypriots and Cretans.

This insecure little mongoloid literally just called a Frenchman African, the audacity of these kids amazes me. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings Bori, but Turks are neither Scythian nor West Eurasian. Go cry and project elsewhere.

Leto
02-27-2018, 08:01 PM
You don't know him. He likes to troll. In real life he is perfectly polite and unassuming :)
I don't know him personally but he assumed I should look Mongolian or that every Romanian has black hair or many other nonsensical statements. He also hates Orthodox Christianity for no reason (there's barely any significant Orthodox population in Hungary). I don't mind soft inoffensive trolling, but he has literally spent years doing the opposite.

Dick
02-27-2018, 08:09 PM
100%

MercifulServant
02-27-2018, 09:05 PM
A random mainland Greek you pull of the street won't score above 5% red sea at the max. The average in the spreadsheet is literally 3% (including isanders) and lower then Turkey's. Still lol'ing at this Turkish freak and his obsession with Cypriots and Cretans.

Red sea isnt negroid anyway

Kouros
02-27-2018, 09:06 PM
Red sea isnt negroid anyway

Still, he's spreading misinformation.

Petalpusher
02-27-2018, 09:37 PM
Is it true that Northern France is close to the British Isles?

Some parts, i would say the closest is east Britanny because it both shares most of the same "celtic" substrate than UK and some Normand influence. The rest of the north depends more of individual cases some are closer to Dutch, Germans, or UK, in oracles at least.

M4VER1CK
08-28-2022, 06:22 PM
CREATED BY: український пат and Decius

MAP:
https://i.imgur.com/EzbQCEo.png

CATEGORY OF COUNTRIES:

85%-90%: Turkey, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Jordan

90%-95%: Finland, Russia, Armenia, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia

95%-97%: Ukraine, Romania

97%-98%: Latvia, Belarus, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Georgia

98%-99%: Lithuania, British Isles, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Greece, Cyprus, Iberian Penninsula

99%>: France, Italy, Albania

No data available: Remaining countries in grey

HELP GET DATA BY SENDING HARRAPA WORLD RESULTS FROM THE MISSING COUNTRIES!

Low rate of western eurasia in Iraq?
Is it related to the barbarian Mongol invasion?