VLATKO VUKOVIC's autosomal!

[Jana]

Attila Balamber Balimber Bleda Dengizich Edeco
Hormidac Mundzuc Octar Oebarsius Onulph Roua
Ruga
Blaedla

Tuldila Uldin

Some of those

None of that :)

[Jana]

Please remove that asshole from this place. I mean I seriously suggest that Stears be banned for trolling.

Than I leave too! This is free speech forum :)

[Leto]

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Alright, but are we talking about genetics or culture? And since when is Hungary the benchmark of Westernness? I mean you are neither German, nor British, nor French, not even Italian or Spanish. Hungary is generally considered to be part of Eastern Europe, in some cases Central, but there's no way it is Western. I'm not Western, but does that make a lesser person? We may not be as wealthy but at least spiritually we're definitely healthier than the so called 'West' as defined during the Cold War.

[Leto]

Than I leave too! This is free speech forum :)
I see they ban people for trolling and insults, but why is he not affected? He hasn't even paid money to the forum (I suspect if donate some dollars, I would be free to attack and insult everyone).

[Stears]

Lol, Hungary fucking borders on Ukraine and there's like 150-200k fucking Hungarians over there in Ukraine. What the fuck are you talking about? Culturally different, lmao. The only difference is their language which is Indo-European, by the way, not Uralic. Race, religion, etc. are all the same.


Wrong. There are no Ukrainian migrants in the former territory before the post WW2 Soviet rule. It was a Soviet policy to move there ukrainians after 1945. That's why you can't see any Ukrainians in any Census during Hungarian and Czechoslovak era.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

None of that :)

Those are original Hunnic names. Then, he has some invented Hungarian name who associate to the original ones.

[Jana]

I see they ban people for trolling and insults, but why is he not affected? He hasn't even paid money to the forum (I suspect if donate some dollars, I would be free to attack and insult everyone).

TA should pay Stears to post here! He generate more traffic with cool threads/replies than any kind of troll bots :thumb001:

[Porn Master]

:confused:




https://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=10664&dateline=1520098773

[Leto]

Wrong. There are no Ukrainian migrants in the former territory before the post WW2 Soviet rule. It was a Soviet policy to move there ukrainians after 1945. That's why you can't see any Ukrainians in any Census during Hungarian and Czechoslovak era.
Ancestrally you are partially Slavic and linguistically you are Uralic. End of fucking story.

[Jana]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=10664&dateline=1520098773

That's us :)

[Stears]

Alright, but are we talking about genetics or culture? And since when is Hungary the benchmark of Westernness? I mean you are neither German, nor British, nor French, not even Italian or Spanish. Hungary is generally considered to be part of Eastern Europe, in some cases Central, but there's no way it is Western. I'm not Western, but does that make a lesser person? We may not be as wealthy but at least spiritually we're definitely healthier than the so called 'West' as defined during the Cold War.


Italians and Spanish are southern Europeans, Germans are Central European people. Only France Benelux and UK are geographically Western European nations. Western culture is a bigger term than Western Europe, it means the historically Western Christian (Catholic Protestant) areas of Europe. Read the 11 point what I wrote above, and you will have a minimal clue about it.

[Maintenance]

Hungary is like Finland, mongoloid/uralic end of story.

Thread is about Vlatko not some irrelevant mongoloid country like hungary.

[Leto]

TA should pay Stears to post here! He generate more traffic with cool threads/replies than any kind of troll bots :thumb001:
Well, it's clear to me that TA is fine with being one big shit show. They can ban me for dissidence right now, because I openly call for a great purge of trolls and other scum.

[Jana]

Vlatko, I see you score some Finnish on DNA land. That's quite interesting and cool. You also get Askhenazi again, seems it def. real despite it's minute admix.
Ther rest of your score really typical for south-west Slav :thumb001:

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Vlatko, I see you score some Finnish on DNA land. That's quite interesting anad cool. You also get Askhenazi again, seems it def. real despite it's minute admix.
Ther rest of your score really typical for south-west Slav :thumb001:

Yes. If this is correct, i wonder from where did it come.

[Leto]

Italians and Spanish are southern Europeans, Germans are Central European people. Only France Benelux and UK are geographically Western European nations. Western culture is a bigger term than Western Europe, it means the historically Western Christian (Catholic Protestant) areas of Europe. Read the 11 point what I wrote above, and you will have a minimal clue about it.
The countries I listed are the core of the historical West.
The Philippines are Catholic, Mexico is Catholic, Zambia is Protestant, are they more Western than Greece and Belarus? LOL. Why did you bring up religion in the first place? We are in the AUTOSOMAL GENETICS section, you shithead!

[Stears]

Hungary is like Finland, mongoloid/uralic end of story.

Thread is about Vlatko not some irrelevant mongoloid country like hungary.

Original proto-indo-europeans were not even white people. Do you feel proud to adopt the language of the traditional brown race (proto IE)?

[Stears]

The countries I listed are the core of the historical West.
The Philippines are Catholic, Mexico is Catholic, Zambia is Protestant, are they more Western than Greece and Belarus? LOL. Why did you bring up religion in the first place? We are in the AUTOSOMAL GENETICS section, you shithead!


No, Spain and Italy are southern European countries, but they belong to the Western Civilization. German speaking countries and Western Christian Slavs are Central European countries, but they belong to the Western Civilization.

Religion shaped not only religious life, but different civilizations.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Clash_of_Civilizations_mapn2.png

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Original proto-indo-europeans were not even white people. Are you prod to adopt the language of the traditional brown race (proto IE)?

If Scandinavian is Nordic looking man, and carrier of R1a, he is a descedant of Indo-European. It's not important with who he mixed, he is descedant of proto-Indo European, and that's reallity.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

No, Spain and Italy are southern European countries, but they belong to the Western Civilization. German speaking countries and Western Christian Slavs are Central European countries, but they belong to the Western Civilization.

Religion shaped not only religious life, but different civilizations.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Clash_of_Civilizations_mapn2.png

According to this map, Niger is the same cultural group and historical as Albanians and Bosniaks are.

[Stears]

If Scandinavian is Nordic looking man, and carrier of R1a, he is a descedant of Indo-European. It's not important with who he mixed, he is descedant of proto-Indo European, and that's reallity.

Original proto IE speaker people looked like that, IE is an Asian origin language:

https://kuruc.info/galeriaN/2012/ciganyfogyatekosok15121101.jpg

Just some Hard-facts: Finno-Ugric language group was born in N-Eastern Europe (in the Elbe- Baltic Sea - URal region), until the roots of ancient IE language groups go back to Asian continent (Anatolia). In the Eurasian supercontinent, there are more native speakers of IE languages in the ASIAN continent than in Europen continent. (Just remember the large IE speaking populations of India Pakistan Iran)
However, the 97% of Finno-ugric speaking people live in Europe. Therefore to call finno-ugric languages as "asian languages" is laughable illogical, unscientific and misleading.


TYPE IN ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA:"Proto Indo Europeans"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans


and see the maps about original ancient IE people!France Britain Italy haven't significant proto indo-European genes.The Germanic people have also very very low ratio of ancient IE haplogroup markers (R1a),only Eastern Europeans have high ratio of original proto IE haplogroups markers in Europe. Western European languages belongs to IE language group,but in very very distant way.(Have you ever heard about language-shift? The IE linguistic effect spreaded as a lingua franca and as a „dealer language” between many many populations during thousands of years) The real genetic IE people equal with indians and iranians in the Asian continent. Therefore being real descendants of proto Indo-Europeans represent lower culture, technology & lower scientific and economic development in the Eurasian continent.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

IE is an Asian origin language:

It's incorrect.

http://www.livius.org/site/assets/files/46959/indo-european_expansion_01.gif

[Leto]

No, Spain and Italy are southern European countries, but they belong to the Western Civilization. German speaking countries and Western Christian Slavs are Central European countries, but they belong to the Western Civilization.

Religion shaped not only religious life, but different civilizations.

Okay, but what does it have to do with GENETICS? Even ethnic Russians are not Asian, we're still over 90% West Eurasian genetically, even Northern Russians. I could show you my mom's family, she is Northern Russian. Of course, the East Eurasian influence is more noticeable in Russia than in, say, Poland, that's totally understandable, but for example Belarus is much less influenced (below 5%). That's why I identify more with Belarus, because I personally don't feel close to Siberian and Islamic peoples of Russia.
Europe is not only Germany or France, it normally extends to the European part of Russia geographically.

[Maintenance]

Original proto-indo-europeans were not even white people. Do you feel proud to adopt the language of the traditional brown race (proto IE)?

You are yellow not white.

Also you said i would plot near lebanon before, viriato made this for me today.

https://i.imgur.com/nRs0KO4.png

[Leto]

According to this map, Niger is the same cultural group and historical as Albanians and Bosniaks are.
Lol. They confuse religion with geography. Orthodox, Islamic, Buddhist, but why not Catholic and Protestant? :confused:

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Original proto IE speaker people looked like that, IE is an Asian origin language:

Just some Hard-facts: Finno-Ugric language group was born in N-Eastern Europe (in the Elbe- Baltic Sea - URal region), until the roots of ancient IE language groups go back to Asian continent (Anatolia). In the Eurasian supercontinent, there are more native speakers of IE languages in the ASIAN continent than in Europen continent. (Just remember the large IE speaking populations of India Pakistan Iran)
However, the 97% of Finno-ugric speaking people live in Europe. Therefore to call finno-ugric languages as "asian languages" is laughable illogical, unscientific and misleading.


TYPE IN ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA:"Proto Indo Europeans"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans


and see the maps about original ancient IE people!France Britain Italy haven't significant proto indo-European genes.The Germanic people have also very very low ratio of ancient IE haplogroup markers (R1a),only Eastern Europeans have high ratio of original proto IE haplogroups markers in Europe. Western European languages belongs to IE language group,but in very very distant way.(Have you ever heard about language-shift? The IE linguistic effect spreaded as a lingua franca and as a „dealer language” between many many populations during thousands of years) The real genetic IE people equal with indians and iranians in the Asian continent. Therefore being real descendants of proto Indo-Europeans represent lower culture, technology & lower scientific and economic development in the Eurasian continent.

This man is Dravidian looking. About Finno-Ugric languages, they originated from Ural, and Ural was settled by Mongoloids in ancient time. Still today we can see this traits among Finnish people. Hungarians are heavily mixed with other their caucasoid neighbours, and their asiatic looking is now rare. But their Finno-Ugric relatives, who stayed in Ural today are totally Mongoloid people, also with highest Finno-Ugric genetical purity.

[Leto]

You are yellow not white.

Yes, he is straight from the Hun-gary yurt.

[Kelmendasi]

Original proto-indo-europeans were not even white people. Do you feel proud to adopt the language of the traditional brown race (proto IE)?
The weren't brown either, they had light skin and were more European-like genetically. Plus most of the Pontic-Caspian Steppe is in Europe

[Vlatko Vukovic]

The weren't brown either, they had light skin and were more European-like genetically. Plus most of the Pontic-Caspian Steppe is in Europe

He forgot that Aryans invaded India and mixed with Dravidians :D

[Stears]

He forgot that Aryans invaded India and mixed with Dravidians :D


Aryans were not white, but part of the Brown race like their Iranian twins.

[Leto]

The weren't brown either, they had light skin and were more European-like genetically. Plus most of the Pontic-Caspian Steppe is in Europe
Nowadays the highest amount of Steppe-related ancestry is observed in Northern Europe.
Anyway, light features became common only sometime in the Bronze age. The Yamnaya is older than the Corded Ware and Sintashta who were obviously white.

[Stears]

Yes, he is straight from the Hun-gary yurt.


My illiterate friend, Hungary and the name of Hungarians are not related to Huns.

Educate yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Hungary

[Stears]

The weren't brown either, they had light skin and were more European-like genetically. Plus most of the Pontic-Caspian Steppe is in Europe


The Kurgan theory is a 19th century myth. Proto IE populations arrived from Central Asia.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Aryans were not white, but part of the Brown race like their Iranian twins.

I posted you the area of proto-Indo Europeans. Sorry. It's not central asia.

[Kouros]

How is TA a free speech forum when Deymark and others have been banned for 'trolling' yet Stears does the same and is still here? Is it because Deymark is genetically more Hungarian than Stears?

[Jana]

How is TA a free speech forum when Deymark and others have been banned for 'trolling' yet Stears does the same and is still here? Is it because Deymark is genetically more Hungarian than Stears?

Deymark tried to hack other members emails, what are you talking about ?

Other sentence is big fail.

[Leto]

My illiterate friend, Hungary and the name of Hungarians are not related to Huns.

Educate yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Hungary
My message wasn't supposed to be serious.

[Leto]

How is TA a free speech forum when Deymark and others have been banned for 'trolling' yet Stears does the same and is still here? Is it because Deymark is genetically more Hungarian than Stears?
Remove Stears!

[Leto]

Maybe this thread should be closed? 55 pages, lol. I'm sorry, Vlatko.

[Kouros]

STEARS MUST GO! STEARS MUST GO!

[Jana]

Can you show MDLP world/world 22 ?

[Kelmendasi]

The Kurgan theory is a 19th century myth. Proto IE populations arrived from Central Asia.
It isn't, genetics prove it.

[Kouros]

Dacian (or 'Hungarian') brothers were banned for trolling members I think, I don't recall them hacking anyone. Some user admitted that they gave the e-mails directly to them or something.

[Jana]

Dacian (or 'Hungarian') brothers were banned for trolling members I think, I don't recall them hacking anyone. Some user admitted that they gave the e-mails directly to them or something.

Theya are evil twins, best to keep them away :thumb001:

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Maybe this thread should be closed? 55 pages, lol. I'm sorry, Vlatko.

Some have a lot more pages haha

[Leto]

Some have a lot more pages haha
Why has it not been moved to another section yet? Ask a mod. I think it should be moved there and closed for a while.

[SerbianGod]

Hungary is slavic, uralic, balkanite country. Adopting western culture doesnt make you better than rest of EE.

[MercifulServant]

Your more northern than stears and stearsolina I think

[MercifulServant]

Deymark tried to hack other members emails, what are you talking about ?

Other sentence is big fail.

Deymark is actually genetically more hungarian then stears though atleast his brother is

[MercifulServant]

Vlatko, I see you score some Finnish on DNA land. That's quite interesting and cool. You also get Askhenazi again, seems it def. real despite it's minute admix.
Ther rest of your score really typical for south-west Slav :thumb001:

I get like 1% Finnish too its BS, Just misinterpreted North Slavic

[MercifulServant]

...

Here is me, you and bosniensis on k15

https://i.imgur.com/O1DiWO0.png

[Jana]

Your more northern than stears and stearsolina I think

Than Stears yes, but not more than me.

[Jana]

Deymark is actually genetically more hungarian then stears though atleast his brother is

Nothig genetically Hungarian about Deymark, who is spreading that?

He has ancestry from Poland and Montenegro on 23and me, clustering is completely irrelevant and doesn't show actual ancestry.

[Maintenance]

Than Stears yes, but not more than me.

How does that make Stears feel? :rolleyes:

[Jana]

I get like 1% Finnish too its BS, Just misinterpreted North Slavic

Nope. Finnish genes are very different than slavic, amd north slavic on dna land already is more baltic than slavic

[Wrong]

The weren't brown either, they had light skin and were more European-like genetically. Plus most of the Pontic-Caspian Steppe is in Europe
And the EHG part of it brought much of the light features such as blond hair and blue/gray eyes. Plus, they were taller than other populations of Europe.

[Wrong]

Original proto-indo-europeans were not even white people. Do you feel proud to adopt the language of the traditional brown race (proto IE)?
Wrong.

You need to stop making such baseless claims.

[Bosniensis]

Nothig genetically Hungarian about Deymark, who is spreading that?

He has ancestry from Poland and Montenegro on 23and me, clustering is completely irrelevant and doesn't show actual ancestry.

you have a lot of Sardinian :) is there anyone with more than 2,5% (who isn't Sardinian ofc)

[Jana]

you have a lot of Sardinian :) is there anyone with more than 2,5% (who isn't Sardinian ofc)

Sardinian is pure med and I come from adriatic islands. :)

Stears gets more than 15 percent med islander on dna land.

[Jana]

How does that make Stears feel? :rolleyes:

Happy because he is much less Slavic than people predicted ....

Btw, Stears is southern Hungarian. His mother comes from SOUTHERN Transdanubia and on top of that has Croatian ancestry, and his father comes from extreme south-east of Transylvania.

But lets keep topic about Vlatko, shall we ?

This is his thread :)

[MercifulServant]

you have a lot of Sardinian :) is there anyone with more than 2,5% (who isn't Sardinian ofc)

I think I was like 2.8

[MercifulServant]

Sardinian is pure med and I come from adriatic islands. :)

Stears gets more than 15 percent med islander on dna land.

DNA land is BS I get almost 10% NW Europe

[oszkar07]

I think I was like 2.8

I get 3.4% on dnaland, .

https://i.imgur.com/p9ve7ar.jpg

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Here is me, you and bosniensis on k15

https://i.imgur.com/O1DiWO0.png

I could be Ukrainian in the same way as i could be Serb :D Distance is same.

[MercifulServant]

I could be Ukrainian in the same way as i could be Serb :D Distance is same.

Your slightly closer to the Serbian.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Your more northern than stears and stearsolina I think

I am not than Stearsolina... but she has recent Germanic ancestor. My genes are from the Great migration period.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Your slightly closer to the Serbian.

No. Ukrainian_Lviv and Serbian, i am on the halfway exactly.

[MercifulServant]

No. Ukrainian_Lviv and Serbian, i am on the halfway exactly.

The map might be slightly off though, It claims Croats are closer to ukranian Lviv then they are to serbs

[Vlatko Vukovic]

The map might be slightly off though, It claims Croats are closer to ukranian Lviv then they are to serbs

I don't know about the precision of map. But on the map, distance between Lviv and Serbia, i am on the halfway. Other thing is that i am rather Southern Polish than Romanian.

[MercifulServant]

I don't know about the precision of map. But on the map, distance between Lviv and Serbia, i am on the halfway. Other thing is that i am rather Southern Polish than Romanian.

Yes you are slavic while me and bosniensis are balkan

[Vlatko Vukovic]

About Deymark, he plots with Russians.

[Karol Klačansky]

Explain howBecause Islam was founded by a man who killed and massacred men in front of their wives and then took their widows as his own wives, because he married a 6 year old and slept with her when she was 9.....also other stupid rules like going to the bathroom and cleaning yourself with your left hand lol.

You cant compare any Christian faith that Follows Jesus an example of complete goodness and Muhammed an example of everything human and worldly.

[MercifulServant]

Nope. Finnish genes are very different than slavic, amd north slavic on dna land already is more baltic than slavic

They may be different but for us that 1 percent Finnish or whatever came from the Slavic invasion

[Karol Klačansky]

Not necessary, I think. Depend on individual :)Please feiichy Bosniak is a fake and made up modern term for a Muslim jugoslav don't give that nonsense any value

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[Vlatko Vukovic]

They may be different but for us that 1 percent Finnish or whatever came from the Slavic invasion

I don't believe in my Finnish results. Finns didn't migrate from their urhemeit, nor even had a contact with Slavs before East Slavic expansion. But in that time of the East Slavic expansions, my ancestors settled Balkan already.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Please feiichy Bosniak is a fake and made up modern term for a Muslim jugoslav don't give that nonsense any value

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It's actual name, same as Ukrainian. They had in history other name, but now, they are what they are. She just respects other's nationality.

[Karol Klačansky]

It's actual name, same as Ukrainian. They had in history other name, but now, they are what they are. She just respects other's nationality.Ukrainian is also a fake and stupid name, sounds ugly they should change it to something like rusyn but they don't want in any way to be associated with Russians so they deny their actual historical name.

Muslim Bosniaks are traders of Europe, I don't respect them because they feel closer to Turks than they do other Slavs.

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[Vlatko Vukovic]

Ukrainian is also a fake and stupid name, sounds ugly they should change it to something like rusyn but they don't want in any way to be associated with Russians so they deny their actual historical name.

Muslim Bosniaks are traders of Europe, I don't respect them because they feel closer to Turks than they do other Slavs.

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The nationality name can be changed. Ukrainaian is regular name and even is dating from Kievan Rus. So it's disrespectful. About Bosniak "traders", what they are "trading" ?

[Jana]

DNA land is BS I get almost 10% NW Europe


They may be different but for us that 1 percent Finnish or whatever came from the Slavic invasion

DNA land shows ancient ancestry. Many Serbs have some far away Germanic-Keltic ancestry, could be all the way from White Serbia which bordered Germans.

Or in your case from German immigrants to Krajina, they settled there just as Serbs did but in smaller numbers. Or even from Goths etc...

Finnish can come from Slavic, or distant Hungarian ancestry. Possibilities are endless !

[Jana]

About Deymark, he plots with Russians.

He is more Slavic than us genetically :)

[Jana]

Please feiichy Bosniak is a fake and made up modern term for a Muslim jugoslav don't give that nonsense any value

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But their identity is much older than that name :)

''Good Bosnjani'' were inhabitants of medieval Bosnia, and Bosniak in their language is Bošnjak. It's a new term, but inspried by that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo%C5%A1njani

[Vlatko Vukovic]

MDLP World

Population
Caucaus_Parsia 11.13
Middle_East 6.65
Indian -
South_and_West_European 41.70
Melanesian -
Sub_Saharian -
North_and_East_European 38.67
Arctic_Amerind 0.76
East_Asian -
Paleo_African 0.29
Mesoamerican 0.70
North_Asian 0.11

MDLP World-22

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 10.39
North-European-Mesolithic 2.30
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican -
Arctic-Amerind 0.09
South-America_Amerind 0.48
Indian -
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 28.73
Samoedic 1.01
Indo-Iranian 1.12
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 49.23
South-African 0.31
North-Amerind 0.64
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 5.66
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian

Hahah, but fact is that i always scored middle east. Somwhere less somewhere more :P

[Jana]

The map might be slightly off though, It claims Croats are closer to ukranian Lviv then they are to serbs

whoever takes these Eurogenes maps seriously, has brain problems...

[Jana]

MDLP World

Population
Caucaus_Parsia 11.13
Middle_East 6.65
Indian -
South_and_West_European 41.70
Melanesian -
Sub_Saharian -
North_and_East_European 38.67
Arctic_Amerind 0.76
East_Asian -
Paleo_African 0.29
Mesoamerican 0.70
North_Asian 0.11

MDLP World-22

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 10.39
North-European-Mesolithic 2.30
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican -
Arctic-Amerind 0.09
South-America_Amerind 0.48
Indian -
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 28.73
Samoedic 1.01
Indo-Iranian 1.12
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 49.23
South-African 0.31
North-Amerind 0.64
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 5.66
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian

Hahah, but fact is that i always scored middle east. Somwhere less somewhere more :P

That's ancient, all Europeans get that....you don't score anything out of ordinary :)

What are your closest populations on Oracles ?

[Karol Klačansky]

The nationality name can be changed. Ukrainaian is regular name and even is dating from Kievan Rus. So it's disrespectful. About Bosniak "traders", what they are "trading" ?Ukraine was a reference to a region never a people. People were always ruthenian (rusyn).

It's a play on words. They traded their Christian heritage for a stupid Muslim one. I respect and like real Christian bosnians.

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[Vlatko Vukovic]

That's ancient, all Europeans get that....you don't score anything out of ordinary :)

What are your closest populations on Oracles ?

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bosnian 2.51
2 Croatian 2.6
3 Hungarian 3.39
4 Slovenian 5.28
5 Austrian 5.55
6 Croatian_V 5.8
7 German_V 5.87
8 Czech 7
9 Serbian 7.02
10 German 7.02
11 CEU_V 7.43
12 Slovakian 8.01
13 German-North 8.14
14 Latvian_V 8.48
15 German-South 8.82
16 CEU 9.14
17 Macedonian 9.56
18 Norwegian_V 9.58
19 Montenegrin 9.72
20 Welsh 9.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.5% Bosnian + 21.5% Latvian_V @ 0.98
2 89.6% Bosnian + 10.4% Mordovian @ 1.11
3 86.2% German-North + 13.8% Druze @ 1.14
4 83% Swedish + 17% Jew_Georgia @ 1.19
5 86.7% German-North + 13.3% Jew_Georgia @ 1.19
6 61.5% Macedonian + 38.5% Russian_South @ 1.23
7 84.9% Bosnian + 15.1% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.23
8 56.1% Montenegrin + 43.9% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.25
9 83.1% Bosnian + 16.9% Ukrainian_V @ 1.25
10 86.6% Bosnian + 13.4% Ukrainian-East @ 1.26
11 87.5% Bosnian + 12.5% Russian_South @ 1.27
12 82.4% Czech + 17.6% Greek_Azov @ 1.28
13 88.5% Bosnian + 11.5% Russian_V @ 1.29
14 92.2% Bosnian + 7.8% Inkeri @ 1.29
15 56.5% Macedonian + 43.5% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.29
16 91.8% Bosnian + 8.2% Russian_North @ 1.3
17 85.9% German-North + 14.1% Lebanese @ 1.31
18 82.5% Bosnian + 17.5% Ukrainian-West @ 1.32
19 83.7% Swedish + 16.3% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.32
20 94.1% Bosnian + 5.9% Vepsa @ 1.32

[Jana]

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bosnian 2.51
2 Croatian 2.6
3 Hungarian 3.39
4 Slovenian 5.28
5 Austrian 5.55
6 Croatian_V 5.8
7 German_V 5.87
8 Czech 7
9 Serbian 7.02
10 German 7.02
11 CEU_V 7.43
12 Slovakian 8.01
13 German-North 8.14
14 Latvian_V 8.48
15 German-South 8.82
16 CEU 9.14
17 Macedonian 9.56
18 Norwegian_V 9.58
19 Montenegrin 9.72
20 Welsh 9.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.5% Bosnian + 21.5% Latvian_V @ 0.98
2 89.6% Bosnian + 10.4% Mordovian @ 1.11
3 86.2% German-North + 13.8% Druze @ 1.14
4 83% Swedish + 17% Jew_Georgia @ 1.19
5 86.7% German-North + 13.3% Jew_Georgia @ 1.19
6 61.5% Macedonian + 38.5% Russian_South @ 1.23
7 84.9% Bosnian + 15.1% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.23
8 56.1% Montenegrin + 43.9% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.25
9 83.1% Bosnian + 16.9% Ukrainian_V @ 1.25
10 86.6% Bosnian + 13.4% Ukrainian-East @ 1.26
11 87.5% Bosnian + 12.5% Russian_South @ 1.27
12 82.4% Czech + 17.6% Greek_Azov @ 1.28
13 88.5% Bosnian + 11.5% Russian_V @ 1.29
14 92.2% Bosnian + 7.8% Inkeri @ 1.29
15 56.5% Macedonian + 43.5% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.29
16 91.8% Bosnian + 8.2% Russian_North @ 1.3
17 85.9% German-North + 14.1% Lebanese @ 1.31
18 82.5% Bosnian + 17.5% Ukrainian-West @ 1.32
19 83.7% Swedish + 16.3% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.32
20 94.1% Bosnian + 5.9% Vepsa @ 1.32

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Show this to anyone that say you aren't typical :) You are totally representative and slightly more northeast shifted than pure average.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Ukraine was a reference to a region never a people. People were always ruthenian (rusyn).

It's a play on words. They traded their Christian heritage for a stupid Muslim one. I respect and like real Christian bosnians.

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It's easy to spreading the shit under the Hungarian protection of Ottomans (Slovakia terriotry). We lived 500 years with Ottomans. It's not surprising that religion is left here.

[Karol Klačansky]

It's easy to spreading the shit under the Hungarian protection of Ottomans (Slovakia terriotry). We lived 500 years with Ottomans. It's not surprising that religion is left here.Please ethnic Slovak bishop paid for poles to come and protect Europe against the Turks. Slovaks and Hungarians were part of the same kingdom u think Slovaks were doing jack all day?

Rest of Balkans was also under ottomans and spain was under longer Islamic rule. There's no excuse

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[Jana]

Please ethnic Slovak bishop paid for poles to come and protect Europe against the Turks. Slovaks and Hungarians were part of the same kingdom u think Slovaks were doing jack all day?

Rest of Balkans was also under ottomans and spain was under longer Islamic rule. There's no excuse

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There are two reasons why there were more conversion to Islam in Bosnia than neighbouring countries:

1. Bosnia was pred. Catholic, and Ottomans treated Catholics harsher than Orthodox Christians, because Constantinople was taken, and Rome was main enemy of Islam.

2. In Bosnia was very widespread bogumilism, which was brutally prosecuted by both Catholic (there was even crusade against them) and orthodox church. Most bogumils chosed Islam, it's pretty certain.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Please ethnic Slovak bishop paid for poles to come and protect Europe against the Turks. Slovaks and Hungarians were part of the same kingdom u think Slovaks were doing jack all day?

Rest of Balkans was also under ottomans and spain was under longer Islamic rule. There's no excuse

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And Spain was islamized as you know, the difference is that Spaniards succesed to back them to christianity (or killed them), while Serbs didn't have such succes here. By the way: Serbia was a long vassal, without directly Ottoman presence, while Bosnia was under Ottoman presence from the beggining, until the end occupation. The fact is that wherever was Islamic Empire, people got accept Islam, in Spain, North Africa, Anatolia, Africa, Central Asia, etc etc... The same is with Balkans.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

There are two reasons why there were more conversion to Islam in Bosnia than neighbouring countries:

1. Bosnia was pred. Catholic, and Ottomans treated Catholics harsher than Orthodox Christians, because Constantinople was taken, and Rome was main enemy of Islam.

2. In Bosnia was very widespread bogumilism, which was brutally prosecuted by both Catholic (there was even crusade against them) and orthodox church. Most bogumils chosed Islam, it's pretty certain.

Exactly :thumb001:

[Karol Klačansky]

There are two reasons why there were more conversion to Islam in Bosnia than neighbouring countries:

1. Bosnia was pred. Catholic, and Ottomans treated Catholics harsher than Orthodox Christians, because Constantinople was taken, and Rome was main enemy of Islam.

2. In Bosnia was very widespread bogumilism, which was brutally prosecuted by both Catholic (there was even crusade against them) and orthodox church. Most bogumils chosed Islam, it's pretty certain.Your second reason proves only more why they were traitors.

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[Carpatz]

About Deymark, he plots with Russians.

He plots closest to Hungarians. You're more eastern shifting on the eurogenes maps.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315711208462221313/421327806639767577/unknown.png

[Kelmendasi]

Because Islam was founded by a man who killed and massacred men in front of their wives and then took their widows as his own wives, because he married a 6 year old and slept with her when she was 9.....also other stupid rules like going to the bathroom and cleaning yourself with your left hand lol.

You cant compare any Christian faith that Follows Jesus an example of complete goodness and Muhammed an example of everything human and worldly.
This still doesn't explain how the most primitive and backwards form of Christianity is more developed than the most developed form of Islam. I am not saying that Islam is the better faith but it's not like Christians haven't committed crimes in the name of their god sure Muslims have done more but that's not an excuse for you guys to act innocent. I personally don't care about both religions

[Karol Klačansky]

This still doesn't explain how the most primitive and backwards form of Christianity is more developed than the most developed form of Islam. I am not saying that Islam is the better faith but it's not like Christians haven't committed crimes in the name of their god sure Muslims have done more but that's not an excuse for you guys to act innocent. I personally don't care about both religionsChristianity and Islam are two ideologies founded by two different figures. One was all good, the other a degenerate violent criminal. There is zero comparison.

Also all people do bad stuff because we are humans. I'm comparing ideologies themselves. Even Mormons who are maybe the most degenerate form of Christianity (even though they aren't proper Christians) still are like a peaceful version of muslims.

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[Kelmendasi]

Christianity and Islam are two ideologies founded by two different figures. One was all good, the other a degenerate violent criminal. There is zero comparison.

Also all people do bad stuff because we are humans. I'm comparing ideologies themselves. Even Mormons who are maybe the most degenerate form of Christianity (even though they aren't proper Christians) still are like a peaceful version of muslims.

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Mohammed was just another conqueror that used his religion to make sure that the masses would stay under control, Jesus on the other hand wasn't a conqueror and wasn't a violent man but he did act as if he was the son of a god and among other things but of course as a Christian you believe those claims. Both religions are Abrahamic ones so they do probably share some similarities. I don't know much about these religions and what they stand for which is why I asked for explanations

[Bosniensis]

Mohammed was just another conqueror that used his religion to make sure that the masses would stay under control, Jesus on the other hand wasn't a conqueror and wasn't a violent man but he did act as if he was the son of a god and among other things but of course as a Christian you believe those claims. Both religions are Abrahamic ones so they do probably share some similarities. I don't know much about these religions and what they stand for which is why I asked for explanations

Ask Greeks how Maniotes became Christians ...





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[Karol Klačansky]

Ask Greeks how Maniotes became Christians ...





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greeks didnt start Christianity. Mohammed founded Islam

[Leto]

Let's stop talking about religion here, it's off-topic

This Bosniak is quite similar to Vlatko:
A327540

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 45.19
2 Atlantic_Med 25.45
3 Caucasus 17.19
4 Southwest_Asian 5.45
5 Gedrosia 4.66
6 Siberian 0.87
7 South_Asian 0.78
8 Northwest_African 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.2
2 German (Dodecad) 10.96
3 Romanians (Behar) 13.18
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.07
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.54
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 17.15
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 18.12
8 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 18.31
9 Polish (Dodecad) 18.35
10 Swedish (Dodecad) 19.75
11 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 20.27
12 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 20.75
13 Kent (1000Genomes) 20.87
14 French (Dodecad) 20.93
15 English (Dodecad) 20.96
16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 20.97
17 French (HGDP) 21.34
18 British_Isles (Dodecad) 21.84
19 Argyll (1000Genomes) 22.85
20 Orkney (1000Genomes) 23.16

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Let's stop talking about religion here, it's off-topic

This Bosniak is quite similar to Vlatko:
A327540

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 45.19
2 Atlantic_Med 25.45
3 Caucasus 17.19
4 Southwest_Asian 5.45
5 Gedrosia 4.66
6 Siberian 0.87
7 South_Asian 0.78
8 Northwest_African 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.2
2 German (Dodecad) 10.96
3 Romanians (Behar) 13.18
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.07
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.54
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 17.15
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 18.12
8 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 18.31
9 Polish (Dodecad) 18.35
10 Swedish (Dodecad) 19.75
11 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 20.27
12 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 20.75
13 Kent (1000Genomes) 20.87
14 French (Dodecad) 20.93
15 English (Dodecad) 20.96
16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 20.97
17 French (HGDP) 21.34
18 British_Isles (Dodecad) 21.84
19 Argyll (1000Genomes) 22.85
20 Orkney (1000Genomes) 23.16

Where did you find those results?

[Rethel]

And what is the Y?
Say it, finally, before I will be gone again :)

[Rethel]

Vlatku,
And what is the Y?
Say it, finally, before I will be gone again :)

[Leto]

Vlatku,
And what is the Y?
Say it, finally, before I will be gone again :)
Я теперь официально ариец, можешь спокойно уходить. Без тебя хорошо было.

[Rethel]

ариец

Unfortunatly, even being R1, does not fix everything :coffee:


Без тебя хорошо было.

If you will be open for the truth, then with me will be much better.

[Leto]

Unfortunatly, even being R1, does not fix everything :coffee:



If you will be open for the truth, then with me will be much better.
Nah, I just don't wanna see your autism here again. Please be gone.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Vlatku,
And what is the Y?
Say it, finally, before I will be gone again :)

Ou, good surprise to see you again. I didn't do still, unfortunatly.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Nah, I just don't wanna see your autism here again. Please be gone.

Bro, Rethel is crucial member here, admins banned a lot good members.

[North Sea]

It isn't, genetics prove it.

What genetics ?