Greek Cypriot MyHeritage DNA Results

[Teucer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzheGH4p8is

Greek 31.4%
West Asian 20.2%
Mizrahi Jewish - Iranian/Iraqi 11.8%
Sephardic Jewish - North African 11.6%
Sardinian 10.6%
Middle Eastern 9.6%
Ashkenazi Jewish 3.5%
Italian 1.3%

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 40.45
2 West_Asian 21.52
3 West_Med 20.7
4 Red_Sea 6.96
5 North_Atlantic 6.43
6 Baltic 2.71
7 Northeast_African 0.8
8 Oceanian 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Cyprian 2.11
2 Lebanese_Muslim 8.05
3 Samaritan 10.35
4 Lebanese_Christian 10.4
5 Tunisian_Jewish 10.87
6 Syrian 10.9
7 Sephardic_Jewish 11.51
8 Libyan_Jewish 11.82
9 Algerian_Jewish 11.91
10 Lebanese_Druze 11.97
11 Italian_Jewish 12.31
12 South_Italian 13.45
13 Assyrian 13.9
14 Kurdish_Jewish 14.16
15 Jordanian 14.33
16 Palestinian 14.63
17 Iranian_Jewish 14.91
18 Ashkenazi 15.15
19 East_Sicilian 15.28
20 Central_Greek 15.85

[Bobby Martnen]

A mix of Levantine and mainland Greek.

[Teucer]

A mix of Levantine and mainland Greek.

The most interesting thing to me is the variety of Jewish ancestry he has. I'm guessing they all have that Levantine base with a little extra north African/persian/eastern european relative to their respective regions

[Tauromachos]

A mix of Levantine and mainland Greek.

Yes but with Greek being 31-32% that is more than any other component

[Bobby Martnen]

Yes but with Greek being 31-32% that is more than any other component

I think Cypriots are 1/3 Greek, 2/3 Levantine.

But culturally, linguistically, and religiously they are Greek, so I think they are part of the Greek Nation and should be reunified.

[Teucer]

Yes but with Greek being 31-32% that is more than any other component

It may be the largest single component but added together with the Jewish ancestry he is more Levantine than anything

[Tauromachos]

It may be the largest single component but added together with the Jewish ancestry he is more Levantine than anything

Yeah but its bullshit somehow,

What means Levantine?

They simply throw everything Non European into the Levantine pot.

Look at it this way
1)
Largest single component is Greek 31-32%

Second largest is general West Asian 20-21%

And all the other things Jewish e.c.t are less then 12%

So its pretty clear to me and fits my own conception Cypriots are basicly an Ancient Greek people
with stronger affinity towards Anatolia and the Levant.
Thats it.

2)

mongrol for example is Cretan and posted his results and come out as
60% Mainland Greek+40% Greek Cypriot"or something similar"

And that makes perfectly sense considering all geographical,cultural, historical and linguistical aspects.

I always said Crete is halfway or intermediate between the Greek Mainland and Cyprus

[Teucer]

Yeah but its bullshit somehow,

What means Levantine?

They simply throw everything Non European into the Levantine pot.

Look at it this way
1)
Largest single component is Greek 31-32%

Second largest is general West Asian 20-21%

And all the other things Jewish e.c.t are less then 12%

So its pretty clear to me and fits my own conception Cypriots are basicly an Ancient Greek people
with stronger affinity towards Anatolia and the Levant.
Thats it.

2)

mongrol for example is Cretan and posted his results and come out as
60% Mainland Greek+40% Greek Cypriot"or something similar"

And that makes perfectly sense considering all geographical,cultural, historical and linguistical aspects.

I always said Crete is halfway or intermediate between the Greek Mainland and Cyprus

Don't forget the Sardinian. That is also ancient as fuck too and supports your idea

[Sikeliot]

This person is roughly halfway between Levantine and South Italian, if you look at the distances on the Oracle.

The clinal progression out of Greece toward the Levant seems to work like this:

Mainland Greece ----------------------- Crete and South Italy ---------------------------- Cyprus ------------------------------------ Levant

[Tauromachos]

This person is roughly halfway between Levantine and South Italian, if you look at the distances on the Oracle.




Theoretical formal blablabla

Largest component is Greek followed by general West Asian

Cyprus has alwasy been related and tied to the rest of the Greek world

And this result doesn't say anything else



Mainland Greece ----------------------- Crete and South Italy ---------------------------- Cyprus ------------------------------------ Levant

Ok^

[Sikeliot]

Theoretical formal blablabla

Largest component is Greek followed by general West Asian

Cyprus has alwasy been related and tied to the rest of the Greek world

And this result doesn't say anything else



Ok^


I'm going by GEDmatch. I am not even referring to the Myheritage result at all.

[catgeorge]

This person is roughly halfway between Levantine and South Italian, if you look at the distances on the Oracle.

The clinal progression out of Greece toward the Levant seems to work like this:

Mainland Greece ----------------------- Crete and South Italy ---------------------------- Cyprus ------------------------------------ Levant

Mainland Greece and all Greek Islands, Cyprus included --------------------South and Central Italy + Albania + Montenegro + Croatia----------------------South France, Spain and Portugal

[Teucer]

I'm going by GEDmatch. I am not even referring to the Myheritage result at all.

Is the oracle he used good?

[Sikeliot]

Mainland Greece and all Greek Islands, Cyprus included --------------------South and Central Italy + Albania + Montenegro + Croatia----------------------South France, Spain and Portugal

Genetically this makes no sense, because Cypriots are closer to South Italy than to mainland Greeks, and Montenegro/Croatia are not genetically akin to Italians at all.

[Sikeliot]

Is the oracle he used good?

Yes.

But as you can see, this person is roughly halfway between their South Italian sample (which is Calabrese) and some of the Levantine groups.

[catgeorge]

Genetically this makes no sense, because Cypriots are closer to South Italy than to mainland Greeks, and Montenegro/Croatia are not genetically akin to Italians at all.


genetically it makes perfect sense - in all plots Greeks are shifted closer to Central Italy and Central Italy is shifted closer to France.

The ranges for Greeks is what it is and not referring to Italy I am referring to the equidistant nature of Greeks not your sickly biases.

[Sikeliot]

genetically it makes perfect sense - in all plots Greeks are shifted closer to Central Italy and Central Italy is shifted closer to France.

The ranges for Greeks is what it is and not referring to Italy I am referring to the equidistant nature of Greeks not your sickly biases.

What you posted made no sense. South Italians are not in between Croats and Greeks.

[catgeorge]

What you posted made no sense. South Italians are not in between Croats and Greeks.

Again you have comprehension problems; so I will repeat.

This is not about South Italians it is about the equidistant nature of Greeks.

[Sikeliot]

Again you have comprehension problems; so I will repeat.

This is not about South Italians it is about the equidistant nature of Greeks.

Who are you claiming Greeks are equidistant between?

[catgeorge]

Who are you claiming Greeks are equidistant between?

The people that inhabit the Mediterranean. Montenegro and Croatia inclusive.

[Mingle]

Yes but with Greek being 31-32% that is more than any other component

Greek is probably just some sort of generic Mediterranean component. I wouldn't be surprised if Lebanese folk got it as their highest component considering how close they are to Cypriots on GEDmatch.

[Sikeliot]

Greek is probably just some sort of generic Mediterranean component. I wouldn't be surprised if Lebanese folk got it as their highest component considering how close they are to Cypriots on GEDmatch.

For what it is worth, the Greek component goes as high as 70% in south Italy and I have seen it being very high in Turkey. The highest for an Italian being someone from Apulia, then someone from Messina at around 60%, then someone from Trapani at 55%.

I have seen Lebanese results score Italian but not Greek, which is odd because you'd expect if Cypriots and southern Italians score more Greek than Italian, that Lebanese would too, but no.

[Tauromachos]

Greek is probably just some sort of generic Mediterranean component. I wouldn't be surprised if Lebanese folk got it as their highest component considering how close they are to Cypriots on GEDmatch.

So what is West Asian or Jewish?

If someone gets Jewish? Does it make him a Jew?

What is Slavic?

[Bobby Martnen]

So what is West Asian or Jewish?

If someone gets Jewish? Does it make him a Jew?

What is Slavic?

You're only Jewish if your mother's mother's mother's, etc... was Jewish.

[Mingle]

So what is West Asian or Jewish?

If someone gets Jewish? Does it make him a Jew?

What is Slavic?

Stuff like Jewish, Slavic, etc. aren't real genetic categories but just names given by DNA companies to certain (usually mixed) components and not accurate. They're fun to look at, but GEDmatch is really the only thing worth seriously paying attention to.

[Tauromachos]

Stuff like Jewish, Slavic, etc. aren't real genetic categories but just names given by DNA companies to certain (usually mixed) components and not accurate. They're fun to look at, but GEDmatch is really the only thing worth seriously paying attention to.

Yes exactly