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Bobby Martnen
03-06-2018, 06:27 AM
Strong Greek affinities here.

EUROGENES K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.53
2 West_Med 17.09
3 West_Asian 14.48
4 Atlantic 13.81
5 North_Sea 10.66
6 Red_Sea 5.43
7 Baltic 5.21
8 Eastern_Euro 4.56
9 Siberian 1.2
10 South_Asian 0.64
11 Northeast_African 0.39
12 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 2.89
2 East_Sicilian 3.33
3 Italian_Abruzzo 3.84
4 Ashkenazi 4.98
5 South_Italian 5.04
6 West_Sicilian 5.63
7 Greek 7.63
8 Greek_Thessaly 8
9 Italian_Jewish 8.79
10 Tuscan 9.36
11 Sephardic_Jewish 9.64
12 Algerian_Jewish 10.64
13 Tunisian_Jewish 14.11
14 Bulgarian 14.8
15 Libyan_Jewish 15.48
16 North_Italian 15.77
17 Cyprian 16.02
18 Romanian 16.68
19 Turkish 18.23
20 Lebanese_Muslim 19.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.9% Central_Greek + 25.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.32
2 90.8% South_Italian + 9.2% Chuvash @ 2.36
3 97.8% Central_Greek + 2.2% Selkup @ 2.39
4 59.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.7% Ashkenazi @ 2.39
5 97.8% Central_Greek + 2.2% Ket @ 2.42
6 65.7% Central_Greek + 34.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.44
7 97.4% Central_Greek + 2.6% Shors @ 2.45
8 97% Central_Greek + 3% Mari @ 2.47
9 97.6% Central_Greek + 2.4% Hakas @ 2.51
10 94.2% Central_Greek + 5.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.54
11 94.4% Central_Greek + 5.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.55
12 98.4% Central_Greek + 1.6% Dolgan @ 2.55
13 98.2% Central_Greek + 1.8% Saqqaq @ 2.56
14 89.9% South_Italian + 10.1% East_Finnish @ 2.56
15 98.6% Central_Greek + 1.4% Evens @ 2.56
16 98.2% Central_Greek + 1.8% Tuvinian @ 2.56
17 97.1% Central_Greek + 2.9% Chuvash @ 2.57
18 98.6% Central_Greek + 1.4% Evenki @ 2.57
19 98.5% Central_Greek + 1.5% Yakut @ 2.57
20 98.4% Central_Greek + 1.6% Koryak @ 2.57

MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.68
2 European_Early_Farmers 23.21
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.14
4 Near_East 9.97
5 South_Central_Asian 5.12
6 North_African 4.05
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.42
8 East_Siberian 1.51
9 South_Indian 0.68
10 Melano_Polynesian 0.66
11 East_African 0.59
12 Amerindian 0.55
13 Khoisan 0.32
14 Australoid 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 3.13
2 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 3.52
3 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 3.56
4 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 4.16
5 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 4.43
6 Ashkenazi ( ) 4.61
7 Greek_Northwest ( ) 4.9
8 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 4.92
9 Sicilian_East ( ) 5.07
10 French_Jew ( ) 5.71
11 Kosovar ( ) 5.88
12 Romanian_Jew ( ) 5.97
13 Central_Greek ( ) 5.99
14 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 6.33
15 Sicilian_West ( ) 6.44
16 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 6.91
17 Italian_Jew ( ) 7
18 Turk_Jew ( ) 7.45
19 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 7.5
20 Maltese ( ) 7.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52% Central_Greek ( ) + 48% Sicilian_West ( ) @ 1.79
2 57% Sicilian_West ( ) + 43% Greek_Phokaia ( ) @ 1.94
3 75.7% Greek_Islands ( ) + 24.3% Icelandic ( ) @ 1.98
4 75.2% Greek_Islands ( ) + 24.8% Norwegian_West ( ) @ 2.01
5 69.2% Kosovar ( ) + 30.8% Syrian_Jew ( ) @ 2.03
6 73.5% Greek_Islands ( ) + 26.5% Norwegian_East ( ) @ 2.06
7 73.3% Greek_Islands ( ) + 26.7% North_European ( ) @ 2.07
8 65.8% Greek_Islands ( ) + 34.2% German-Volga ( ) @ 2.08
9 72.2% Greek_Islands ( ) + 27.8% English ( ) @ 2.1
10 69.7% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 30.3% French_Jew ( ) @ 2.13
11 76.5% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 23.5% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) @ 2.13
12 75.8% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 24.2% Sephardic_Jew ( ) @ 2.13
13 72.2% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 27.8% Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) @ 2.14
14 57.1% Sicilian_West ( ) + 42.9% Greek ( ) @ 2.15
15 90.5% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 9.5% Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) @ 2.15
16 72.7% Greek_Islands ( ) + 27.3% Swede ( ) @ 2.18
17 50.3% Cypriot ( ) + 49.7% Italian_North ( ) @ 2.18
18 55.3% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 44.7% Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) @ 2.2
19 58.8% Sicilian_West ( ) + 41.2% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 2.2
20 92.6% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 7.4% Dargin_Urkarah ( ) @ 2.2

Dodecad V3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 34.28
2 West_Asian 25.13
3 West_European 19
4 Southwest_Asian 9.75
5 East_European 6.78
6 Northwest_African 3.81
7 East_African 0.67
8 Northeast_Asian 0.43
9 Palaeo_African 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 3.59
2 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 4.17
3 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 9.56
4 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 10.91
5 C_Italian (Dodecad) 11.13
6 Tuscan (Xing) 11.89
7 Greek (Dodecad) 12.2
8 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.25
9 Tuscan (Henn) 12.89
10 TSI (HapMap) 12.9
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.96
12 S_Italian (Dodecad) 13.65
13 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 14.27
14 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.63
15 Romanians_14 (Behar) 18.73
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.09
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.62
18 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 20.86
19 Cypriots (Behar) 20.93
20 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 22.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 18.6% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.32
2 85.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 14.6% Romanians_14 (Behar) @ 2.72
3 88.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 11.2% Balkans (Dodecad) @ 2.89
4 90.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 9.3% Romanians_14 (Behar) @ 3.06
5 88.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.17
6 95.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.18
7 88.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 11.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.2
8 93.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 6.3% Balkans (Dodecad) @ 3.22
9 94.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 5.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.24
10 96% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.25
11 95.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4.2% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.26
12 94.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 5.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.27
13 82.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 17.9% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.29
14 88.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 11.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.3
15 88.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 11.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.31
16 97.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 2.8% Georgians (Behar) @ 3.34
17 93.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 6.2% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.37
18 95.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 4.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.38
19 96.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 3.5% Armenians_16 (Behar) @ 3.39
20 95.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 4.6% Turks (Behar) @ 3.41


HarappaWorld
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.21
2 Mediterranean 26.48
3 NE-Euro 17.79
4 SW-Asian 12.09
5 Baloch 8.24
6 Siberian 0.82
7 E-African 0.7
8 American 0.31
9 Pygmy 0.26
10 W-African 0.08
11 S-Indian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazi (harappa) 4.24
2 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 4.45
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 9.74
4 sephardic-jew (behar) 10.34
5 tuscan (hgdp) 10.35
6 tuscan (hapmap) 11.01
7 morocco-jew (behar) 11.65
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 15.34
9 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 18.39
10 italian (hgdp) 18.68
11 romanian-a (behar) 19.44
12 cypriot (behar) 19.75
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 21.03
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 21.35
15 turk (behar) 22.77
16 lebanese (behar) 22.81
17 turkish (harappa) 23.56
18 romanian-b (behar) 24.75
19 lebanese-muslim (haber) 25.17
20 armenian (harappa) 25.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.5% tuscan (1000genomes) + 27.5% palestinian (harappa) @ 1.35
2 68.9% tuscan (hgdp) + 31.1% lebanese (behar) @ 1.41
3 75.8% tuscan (1000genomes) + 24.2% iraq-jew (behar) @ 1.45
4 70.3% tuscan (1000genomes) + 29.7% lebanese (behar) @ 1.47
5 59.8% italian (hgdp) + 40.2% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 1.53
6 72.4% tuscan (1000genomes) + 27.6% syrian (behar) @ 1.64
7 72.3% tuscan (1000genomes) + 27.7% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 1.66
8 76.4% tuscan (1000genomes) + 23.6% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 1.69
9 59.7% italian (hgdp) + 40.3% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 1.69
10 76.6% tuscan (1000genomes) + 23.4% iranian-jew (behar) @ 1.73
11 57.5% italian (hgdp) + 42.5% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 1.91
12 61.8% italian (hgdp) + 38.2% iraq-jew (behar) @ 1.99
13 74.3% tuscan (1000genomes) + 25.7% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 2.1
14 61.4% italian (hgdp) + 38.6% georgia-jew (behar) @ 2.1
15 70.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 29.2% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.11
16 62.8% cypriot (behar) + 37.2% french (hgdp) @ 2.11
17 74.4% tuscan (1000genomes) + 25.6% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 2.2
18 73.7% tuscan (1000genomes) + 26.3% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 2.35
19 62.8% italian (hgdp) + 37.2% iranian-jew (behar) @ 2.36
20 83.1% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 16.9% italian (hgdp) @ 2.37

PuntDNAL K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 39.17
2 NE_European 22.91
3 Caucasian 22.87
4 SW_Asian 9.84
5 Horn_Of_Africa 2.31
6 Siberian 1.16
7 Omo_River 0.97
8 Wht_Nile_River 0.56
9 S_Indian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazy_Jew 3.43
2 Sicilian 4.45
3 Sephardic_Jew 6.8
4 Tuscan 7.33
5 Greek_Central 7.72
6 Albanian 8.42
7 Greek_Thessaly 9.16
8 Italian 14.74
9 Montenegrin 15.9
10 Bulgarian 17.55
11 Romanian 18.28
12 Cypriot 18.81
13 Brazilian 18.89
14 Macedonian 19.53
15 Portuguese 20.36
16 Turk_Kayseri 21.39
17 Bosnian 21.79
18 Spaniard 22.15
19 Lebanese 22.25
20 Palestinian 22.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.5% Albanian + 30.5% Cypriot @ 1.92
2 76.4% Tuscan + 23.6% Samaritian @ 1.98
3 73% Ashkenazy_Jew + 27% Greek_Central @ 2.05
4 73.7% Albanian + 26.3% Samaritian @ 2.1
5 59.8% Cypriot + 40.2% French @ 2.18
6 92.3% Sicilian + 7.7% Chuvash @ 2.19
7 54.3% Montenegrin + 45.7% Cypriot @ 2.2
8 56.2% Italian + 43.8% Cypriot @ 2.24
9 77.4% Ashkenazy_Jew + 22.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.25
10 65.9% Sicilian + 34.1% Greek_Central @ 2.29
11 85.1% Sicilian + 14.9% Bosnian @ 2.33
12 70.2% Sicilian + 29.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.37
13 58.2% Sephardic_Jew + 41.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.4
14 92.7% Sicilian + 7.3% Mordovian @ 2.45
15 74.2% Ashkenazy_Jew + 25.8% Tuscan @ 2.45
16 77.4% Sephardic_Jew + 22.6% Bosnian @ 2.46
17 75.9% Albanian + 24.1% Druze @ 2.47
18 93.1% Sicilian + 6.9% Finnish @ 2.48
19 92.8% Sicilian + 7.2% Russian @ 2.49
20 92.9% Sicilian + 7.1% Karelian @ 2.49


Gedrosia Eurasia K9 ASI
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 33.38
2 WHG 20.29
3 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 19.62
4 SW_Asian 18.83
5 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 6.44
6 Siberian_E_Asian 0.75
7 W_African 0.69

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian 3.99
2 Greek 5.8
3 Maltese 6.37
4 Albanian 8.11
5 Tuscan 8.62
6 Bulgarian 14.72
7 Cypriot 16.15
8 Turkish 16.6
9 Spanish 19.59
10 Lebanese 21.81
11 Kumyk 21.91
12 Adygei 22.06
13 Druze 22.66
14 Armenian 23.05
15 Sardinian 23.33
16 Syrian 24.09
17 Chechen 24.12
18 Croatian 24.14
19 Jordanian 24.38
20 French 24.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.6% Sicilian + 2.4% Karelia_HG @ 3.05
2 97.6% Sicilian + 2.4% Samara_HG @ 3.05
3 76.5% Greek + 23.5% Cypriot @ 3.17
4 97.4% Sicilian + 2.6% MA1 @ 3.27
5 53.2% Sardinian + 46.8% Azeri_Dagestan @ 3.37
6 97.1% Sicilian + 2.9% LBK_EN @ 3.41
7 97.2% Sicilian + 2.8% Anatolia_Neolithic @ 3.42
8 68.3% Albanian + 31.7% Cypriot @ 3.47
9 83% Greek + 17% Druze @ 3.55
10 96.1% Sicilian + 3.9% Srubnaya @ 3.58
11 96.9% Sicilian + 3.1% RISE_baKarasuk @ 3.59
12 96.5% Sicilian + 3.5% RISE_baAndrov @ 3.6
13 82.7% Greek + 17.3% Lebanese @ 3.66
14 96.8% Sicilian + 3.2% RISE_baMezh @ 3.66
15 96.8% Sicilian + 3.2% Iceman @ 3.68
16 97.1% Sicilian + 2.9% KOTIAS @ 3.7
17 93.9% Sicilian + 6.1% Adygei @ 3.73
18 85.3% Greek + 14.7% Iraqi_Jew @ 3.73
19 94.5% Sicilian + 5.5% Chechen @ 3.74
20 97.3% Sicilian + 2.7% RISE_irAltai @ 3.74

Sikeliot
03-06-2018, 10:29 PM
Can you share their GEDmatch ID with me? I can find out which town they come from.

"Central Greek" is not a mainland sample, it includes people from the North Aegean islands.

Bobby Martnen
03-06-2018, 10:36 PM
Can you share their GEDmatch ID with me? I can find out which town they come from.

"Central Greek" is not a mainland sample, it includes people from the North Aegean islands.

Check your rep comments.

Sikeliot
03-06-2018, 10:43 PM
1/4 of their ancestry is from Contessa Entellina, an Arbereshe town. This is why they shift closer to Greece :)

Bobby Martnen
03-06-2018, 10:47 PM
1/4 of their ancestry is from Contessa Entellina, an Arbereshe town. This is why they shift closer to Greece :)

Thanks - I know I have distant Arbereshe roots as well.

Sikeliot
03-06-2018, 10:48 PM
Thanks - I know I have distant Arbereshe roots as well.

According to the Sarno study, Sicilian Arbereshe belong in the Apulia cluster, not the mainstream Sicilian cluster, which brings them closer to Greece. In fact in that study, Arbereshe were genetically closest to mainland Greeks and Albanians.

Bobby Martnen
03-06-2018, 10:51 PM
According to the Sarno study, Sicilian Arbereshe belong in the Apulia cluster, not the mainstream Sicilian cluster, which brings them closer to Greece. In fact in that study, Arbereshe were genetically closest to mainland Greeks and Albanians.

Do you view them as real Sicilians or not?

kleenex
03-06-2018, 10:52 PM
Interesting results. The major difference I've noticed is the lower EHG. Isn't Nick Stellino the chef Palmeritan? He looks like a mainland Greek to me.

Sikeliot
03-06-2018, 10:53 PM
Do you view them as real Sicilians or not?

If they identify as one, then yes. If they consider themselves Albanians living in Sicily, then I would see them as Albanian.

I consider a Sicilian with partial Arbereshe ancestry that assimilated, a full Sicilian BUT in cases like this it can be pointed out that there is somewhat of a genetic difference also.

Bobby Martnen
03-06-2018, 11:00 PM
If they identify as one, then yes. If they consider themselves Albanians living in Sicily, then I would see them as Albanian.

I consider a Sicilian with partial Arbereshe ancestry that assimilated, a full Sicilian BUT in cases like this it can be pointed out that there is somewhat of a genetic difference also.

Do they still speak Albanian to this day?

Bobby Martnen
09-02-2018, 06:43 PM
Shqiptars

Sikeliot
09-02-2018, 06:45 PM
This is the Arbereshe guy right? When I read the thread title I thought it said Palestinian at first...

Bobby Martnen
09-02-2018, 09:06 PM
This is the Arbereshe guy right? When I read the thread title I thought it said Palestinian at first...

1/4 or 1/2 Arbereshe