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Loki
02-20-2009, 02:25 AM
From NewScientist article (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126952.200-valentines-day-special-kissing.html).

AS NATURAL as kissing seems, it also means swapping mucus, bacteria and who knows what else, so how and why would such a behaviour evolve?

Science has been seeking answers for decades. Neuroscientists point to the way it unleashes a flood of neurotransmitters and hormones associated with social bonding and sex. Anthropologists explain it as a relic of mouth-to-mouth feeding from mothers to infants. Others have suggested that kissing conveys important information about prospective mates and so evolved as a guide to mate selection. It has even been passed off as a purely cultural phenomenon since some groups refrain from it entirely. Despite this, we still do not have a complete answer: the latest proposal is that we kiss because our lips are reminiscent of ripe fruit.

Neuroscientist V. S. Ramachandran of the University of California, San Diego, points out that since our ancestors needed to find ripe fruit, they would have been attracted to the colour red. Red thus became an indicator of food reward.

Then something called "evolutionary co-option" happened, turning red into a general signal for attraction. "The attraction [for red] may have been transferred to the labial region during oestrous to make it conspicuous for males to locate a potential mate," says Ramachandran. Chimpanzees and baboons continue to respond to the red posterior display in females; the "ripeness" cue may also account for the origins of oral sex. When humans became bipedal and no longer advertised their fertility, their upright posture resulted in a different alignment of both visually attractive signals and comfortable mating positions. "Despite these changes, the swollen labia still remain powerfully attractive to males because of an atavistic persistence of evolutionary memory for attraction to red," suggests Ramachandran. Hence the "come-hither" colour cue along with our oral propensity for fruit may have been transferred to our lips, resulting in the intensely arousing nature of a kiss.

This hypothesis is supported by the fact that bonobos share our pink lips, as well as our inclination toward kissing, face-to-face mating and oral sex - much more so than pale-lipped chimpanzees. A fuller pout has also been linked to increased levels of oestrogen in women, suggesting that plump rosy lips may indeed serve as a reliable indicator of fertility.

Romance and bacteria aside, the kiss may be a modern vestige of a love of fruit and sex inherited from our herbivore ancestors.

Vulpix
02-20-2009, 08:50 AM
Blech

Sun Feb 15 03:34:30 GMT 2009 by Edward Evans

Well, that ruined it for me.



:icon_lol:

Creeping Death
02-20-2009, 09:02 AM
AS NATURAL as kissing seems, it also means swapping mucus, bacteria and who knows what else, so how and why would such a behaviour evolve?

What do you get when you kiss a guy
You get enough germs to catch pneumonia
After you do, he'll never phone ya
I'll never fall in love again
I'll never fall in love again

I'll Never Fall In Love Again lyrics by Burt Bacharach (http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/b/burt_bacharach/ill_never_fall_in_love_again.html)

Osweo
02-20-2009, 04:48 PM
Who are these peoples who don't do it?!?

Loki
02-20-2009, 04:53 PM
Who are these peoples who don't do it?!?

Good question, I think some non-European cultures. And with that breath, who can blame them? :D

Beorn
02-20-2009, 05:00 PM
Others have suggested that kissing conveys important information about prospective mates and so evolved as a guide to mate selection.

That's what I had been led to believe in the past. The more saliva, or the more 'sloppier' the kiss, the more likely the female is to be ovulating.

All those bad kissers are actually prime baby makers! Who would have thought? :ohwell:

Tolleson
02-20-2009, 07:06 PM
When Aemma catches a cold, I keep on telling her that she is not kissing me enough and getting my good anti-bodies :1_2:

...there goes that 12 year-old running and screaming from the room, again....singing LALALALA I can't hear you...:runs:

Treffie
02-20-2009, 10:27 PM
AS NATURAL as kissing seems, it also means swapping mucus, bacteria and who knows what else, so how and why would such a behaviour evolve?

My excuse for Kissing? I need the germs to build up my immune system. :thumb001:

lei.talk
02-25-2009, 09:09 AM
notice that some girls
have a smooth ceiling in their oral vault (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palate)
and others have a series of ridges?

suckling/bottle-feeding children have these same ridges,
untill, transitioning to spoon-feeding and solid food.

decades of using a large-gauge straw (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=610247#post610247)
sustain my own series of deep sharp-edged ridges.

Silverfern
02-28-2009, 08:35 AM
Well I have never died from it. But then again could be a nice way to go.

Beorn
02-28-2009, 12:09 PM
Baby dies from mother's kiss (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/757933/baby-dies-from-mothers-kiss)

A newborn baby in Britain died after being kissed by her mother who had a cold sore, an inquest has ruled.

Ruth Schofield had no idea she was placing her 11-day-old daughter Jennifer in danger as she went about breastfeeding and kissing the infant, The Telegraph reports.
The new mum unwittingly passed on the herpes simplex virus (HSV), which caused all of Jennifer's major organs to shut down despite her having no visible symptoms.
The inquest heard Jennifer's health deteriorated rapidly after being admitted to hospital because she was not eating or sleeping, with doctors able to do little to prevent her death on December 5, 2006.
It is believed Miss Schofield caught HSV near the end of her pregnancy and was treated for it two days after giving birth.
But because she had probably never had the virus before, Miss Schofield would not have passed on any antibodies to her daughter.
"The pain for a mother losing a child is the most painful thing anybody can go through," Miss Schofield was quoted as saying.
"It is one that stays with you for life."
Miss Schofield, who now has a 15-month-old daughter, Annabel, has started a campaign in Britain to inform mothers of the dangers of HSV.

Baron Samedi
03-06-2009, 04:21 PM
notice that some girls
have a smooth ceiling in their oral vault (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palate)
and others have a series of ridges?

suckling/bottle-feeding children have these same ridges,
untill, transitioning to spoon-feeding and solid food.

decades of using a large-gauge straw (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=610247#post610247)
sustain my own series of deep sharp-edged ridges.

http://msp153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bradly2795/lol_wut.jpg

Gwynyvyr
03-06-2009, 05:22 PM
When Aemma catches a cold, I keep on telling her that she is not kissing me enough and getting my good anti-bodies :1_2:

...there goes that 12 year-old running and screaming from the room, again....singing LALALALA I can't hear you...:runs:

LMAO!:icon_lol::clap2:

My 25 year old son has the same reaction when my boyfriend is visiting!

His reaction is more like..."Dude, that's my MOM! Don't paw her when I'm around...PLEEEEEASE!"

Lady L
03-06-2009, 07:00 PM
K*I*S*S*I*N*G* Is Fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:thumb001:

coldielox
03-06-2009, 08:24 PM
i think the act of a true kiss should not be put under a microscope but under a book cover ;)

Atlas
03-13-2009, 07:27 PM
I'm the best at French kiss and something else I won't tell on a public forum. ;)

lei.talk
03-14-2009, 05:08 AM
When people looked at Sam Kinison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Kinison) they did not think 'Sex Guru' but...warning:
this video offers adult sexual advice
is a hilarious verbal manner
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=14486 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt0WkGe6-oY)
any sexual imagery
will be the product of your own mind
(none is present in the video)

lei.talk
02-25-2011, 03:52 PM
You get enough germs to catch pneumonia!


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/dd/CloseToYou.jpg/120px-CloseToYou.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carpenters)