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FilhoV
03-11-2018, 04:34 PM
Azorean from Terceira


Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.32
2 West_Med 21.8
3 Baltic 13.69
4 East_Med 12.48
5 Red_Sea 5.72
6 West_Asian 3.22
7 Northeast_African 2.58
8 Sub-Saharan 0.78
9 Oceanian 0.78
10 Amerindian 0.53
11 East_Asian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 4.56
2 Spanish_Galicia 5.07
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.63
4 Spanish_Extremadura 6.3
5 Spanish_Cataluna 6.64
6 Spanish_Murcia 6.85
7 French 7.19
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.21
9 Spanish_Valencia 8.31
10 Spanish_Cantabria 8.81
11 Spanish_Andalucia 9.24
12 Southwest_French 10.54
13 North_Italian 10.59
14 Spanish_Aragon 10.83
15 West_German 12.89
16 South_Dutch 12.94
17 Tuscan 15.72
18 Austrian 17.28
19 Southeast_English 17.64
20 Serbian 17.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.9% French + 16.1% Moroccan @ 2.55
2 84.2% French + 15.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.01
3 84% French + 16% Algerian @ 3.03
4 89.1% Portuguese + 10.9% North_Swedish @ 3.17
5 92% Portuguese + 8% La_Brana-1 @ 3.19
6 85.9% Portuguese + 14.1% North_German @ 3.2
7 83.9% Portuguese + 16.1% Austrian @ 3.2
8 91.9% Portuguese + 8.1% Finnish @ 3.24
9 79.6% Portuguese + 20.4% West_German @ 3.26
10 87.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 12.6% La_Brana-1 @ 3.27
11 90.9% Portuguese + 9.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.27
12 88.1% Portuguese + 11.9% Swedish @ 3.27
13 86% Portuguese + 14% Hungarian @ 3.28
14 85.9% Portuguese + 14.1% East_German @ 3.31
15 84.7% French + 15.3% Tunisian @ 3.33
16 92% Portuguese + 8% Belorussian @ 3.33
17 91.9% Portuguese + 8.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.33
18 92.6% Portuguese + 7.4% East_Finnish @ 3.33
19 91.1% Portuguese + 8.9% Polish @ 3.34
20 92.4% Portuguese + 7.6%

Sikeliot
03-11-2018, 04:35 PM
Portuguese basically can be modeled as French with some North African.

Damiăo de Góis
03-11-2018, 05:01 PM
Portuguese basically can be modeled as French with some North African.

His uncle is more northern shifted than average, for example his distance to South_Dutch is 12 while mine is 15, or his distance to the French is 7 while mine is 9.
The average portuguese doesn't have an Oracle Mix Mode like his. That's why the distance of his first attempt (2.55) is higher than the distance of my 20th (2.15).

Sikeliot
03-11-2018, 05:03 PM
His uncle is more northern shifted than average, for example his distance to South_Dutch is 12 while mine is 15, or his distance to the French is 7 while mine is 9.
The average portuguese doesn't have an Oracle Mix Mode like his. That's why the distance of his first attempt (2.55) is higher than the distance of my 20th (2.15).


Yes, so average Portuguese would be even more North Africa shifted compared to France.

Damiăo de Góis
03-11-2018, 05:10 PM
Yes, so average Portuguese would be even more North Africa shifted compared to France.

In your fucked up mind, most certainly.

In reality, "Morocco" doesn't usually appear in Mix Modes. His Mix Mode got confused (at a high distance).

FilhoV
03-11-2018, 05:36 PM
My uncle is married to my blood aunt on maternal side. My uncle is from Terceira

FilhoV
03-11-2018, 05:49 PM
My 20th mixed mode is at a distance of 2.06 my 1st is at 1.5

Sikeliot
03-11-2018, 05:51 PM
In your fucked up mind, most certainly.

In reality, "Morocco" doesn't usually appear in Mix Modes. His Mix Mode got confused (at a high distance).


Portuguese have North African ancestry. Sorry that this upsets you.

Aren
03-11-2018, 05:58 PM
In your fucked up mind, most certainly.

In reality, "Morocco" doesn't usually appear in Mix Modes. His Mix Mode got confused (at a high distance).

It's a fact that Iberians can be modeled as ENF + WHG + Yamnaya + some North African(Mozabite seems to be best fit).

Using the new Global PCA 25 best fit using Bronze age populations or pre-Bronze age gives this for the Portuguese sample

"distance%=2.5611"

Portuguese

Barcin_N,49
Yamnaya_Samara,28
Blatterhole_HG,14
Mozabite,9

Using French + the same populations

"distance%=2.007"

Portuguese

French_East,73.8
Barcin_N,16.2
Mozabite,10

So yeah Sikeliot is kinda right. Portuguese= French + some extra farmer + some North African.

Sikeliot
03-11-2018, 06:02 PM
So yeah Sikeliot is kinda right. Portuguese= French + some extra farmer + some North African.

Try Spain?

FilhoV
03-11-2018, 06:06 PM
What is “Barcin”?

Kelmendasi
03-11-2018, 06:06 PM
Portuguese have North African ancestry. Sorry that this upsets you.
As far as I know, their NA isn't recent in origin

Sikeliot
03-11-2018, 06:08 PM
As far as I know, their NA isn't recent in origin

No, but it is there.

Aren
03-11-2018, 06:10 PM
Try Spain?

What region? There seems to be a slight difference.

"distance%=2.3402"

Spanish_Aragon

French_East,71
Barcin_N,20.4
Blatterhole_HG,4.8
Mozabite,3.8

"distance%=1.6417"

Spanish_Extremadura

French_East,68.8
Barcin_N,17.4
Mozabite,10.6
Blatterhole_HG,3.2

Aren
03-11-2018, 06:11 PM
What is “Barcin”?

Early Anatolian farmer. Typically what is considered West Med + East Med in certain calculators.

Damiăo de Góis
03-11-2018, 06:11 PM
Portuguese have North African ancestry. Sorry that this upsets you.

Saying they can be modeled as French + North African is what upsets me.


It's a fact that Iberians can be modeled as ENF + WHG + Yamnaya + some North African(Mozabite seems to be best fit).

Using the new Global PCA 25 best fit using Bronze age populations or pre-Bronze age gives this for the Portuguese sample

"distance%=2.5611"

Portuguese

Barcin_N,49
Yamnaya_Samara,28
Blatterhole_HG,14
Mozabite,9

Using French + the same populations

"distance%=2.007"

Portuguese

French_East,73.8
Barcin_N,16.2
Mozabite,10

So yeah Sikeliot is kinda right. Portuguese= French + some extra farmer + some North African.

Hello again, mr Assyrian. What study is that from?

Sikeliot
03-11-2018, 06:15 PM
What region? There seems to be a slight difference.

"distance%=2.3402"

Spanish_Aragon

French_East,71
Barcin_N,20.4
Blatterhole_HG,4.8
Mozabite,3.8

"distance%=1.6417"

Spanish_Extremadura

French_East,68.8
Barcin_N,17.4
Mozabite,10.6
Blatterhole_HG,3.2

North African input in Iberia isn't so much north versus south, as much as it is west vs east. Portugal and western Spain has more than any of the regions close to the Pyrenees.

Urbanuss
04-01-2022, 02:59 PM
No, but it is there.

So ALL europeans arent white, because West Asian and Red Sea is there too and isnt recent.

Its good see that "Sigayliot" was banned, fucking anti-iberian.