View Full Version : What happened to the gedmatch ancient Egyptian samples?
Kamal900
03-11-2018, 05:36 PM
I tried to use gedmatch to get the results of the three ancient Egyptian samples, but it seems to be removed. Does anyone know the new gedmatch kits of the samples?
Kelmendasi
03-11-2018, 05:37 PM
As far as I know they have removed all of the ancient samples
Bosniensis
03-11-2018, 05:38 PM
As far as I know they have removed all of the ancient samples
why?
They are hiding something?
Kelmendasi
03-11-2018, 05:44 PM
why?
They are hiding something?
Not sure lol
Sikeliot
03-11-2018, 05:45 PM
The Mycenaeans were removed also.
Maybe they were uploaded to gedmatch illegaly / without consent of those owning scientific papers where these samples are from
Bosniensis
03-11-2018, 06:08 PM
History, Genetics are part of POLITICS.
Without POLITICS there is no History and Genetics.
Cause Politicians and their organisations (Democrat or whatever) will do everything in their power to destroy all evidences that does not suit their agenda.
That's why Genetic Research is dangerous, and it will be under special oversight from those in power.
Wadaad has pressured GEDmatch to remove the samples, lol
Kamal900
03-11-2018, 06:30 PM
Wadaad has pressured GEDmatch to remove the samples, lol
It doesn't look like that there's a way to bring them back or something? Damn it.
It doesn't look like that there's a way to bring them back or something? Damn it.
Yeah, that's a shame someone deleted them.
Bobby Martnen
03-11-2018, 08:38 PM
Can't some normal user just re-upload them?
Kouros
03-11-2018, 08:45 PM
I had a CHG kit number in my auto-fill so I thought I would try it out to see if it's still there. It works. Kit number M411747 if you're wondering.
Kamal900
03-12-2018, 04:26 PM
I had a CHG kit number in my auto-fill so I thought I would try it out to see if it's still there. It works. Kit number M411747 if you're wondering.
Yeah..but I couldn't find the ancient Egyptian ones anywhere on the internet. I wish someone could re-upload them or something.
Nebro
03-31-2019, 11:24 AM
They were removed it was high quality SNP's ..but strangely they left the very old uploads of them which had very low quality SNP's it gave misleading results.
North Sea
03-31-2019, 11:44 AM
A lotmof them have been removed. Some were never even uploaded.
Nazarene
03-31-2019, 12:44 PM
RIP
JQP4545
03-31-2019, 03:39 PM
Just went over to the Ancient DNA thread and all the ancient Egyptian DNA samples work just fine. Here they are:
Kit Number: T889950
Name: JK2134 Egypt 776-569 BC
Kit Number: T106894
Name: JK2888 Egypt 97-2 BC
Kit Number: T640369
Name: JK2911 Egypt 769-560 BC
They are pretty similar to the kits that have been posted of modern day Copts.
Nebro
03-31-2019, 05:44 PM
Just went over to the Ancient DNA thread and all the ancient Egyptian DNA samples work just fine. Here they are:
Kit Number: T889950
Name: JK2134 Egypt 776-569 BC
Kit Number: T106894
Name: JK2888 Egypt 97-2 BC
Kit Number: T640369
Name: JK2911 Egypt 769-560 BC
They are pretty similar to the kits that have been posted of modern day Copts.
No this is the old uploads its low quality and gives misleading results , the one OP speak about is the High quality ones.
JQP4545
03-31-2019, 09:13 PM
No this is the old uploads its low quality and gives misleading results , the one OP speak about is the High quality ones.
Do you at least have results for the higher quality samples?
Nebro
03-31-2019, 09:58 PM
Do you at least have results for the higher quality samples?
Eurogenes K36 results: JK2134 59799 SNPs
Amerindian -
Arabian 23.05
Armenian 0.23
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 30.50
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 27.54
North_African 9.60
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 9.08
JQP4545
03-31-2019, 10:48 PM
Eurogenes K36 results: JK2134 59799 SNPs
The K36 doesn't tell you very much. Do you have the Dodecad k12b?
Nebro
03-31-2019, 10:52 PM
The K36 doesn't tell you very much. Do you have the Dodecad k12b?
No, unfortunately I only saved this, can you explain what do you mean by "doesn't tell much" what did you wanted to know ?
JQP4545
03-31-2019, 10:54 PM
No, unfortunately I only saved this, can you explain what do you mean by "doesn't tell much" what did you wanted to know ?
I mean it doesn't give you the oracle that you get on the other calculators.
Nebro
04-01-2019, 10:03 PM
I mean it doesn't give you the oracle that you get on the other calculators.
Hello , I searched and found Dodecad k12b but only for this sample Mummy JK2888, 92 BC - 2 BC
I also made comparison with the current one
This is the high quality one
Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.01
2 Southwest_Asian 32.72
3 Atlantic_Med 19.24
4 Northwest_African 12.28
Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.
--------------------------------
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Palestinian @ 14.239951
2 Jordanians @ 16.241976
3 Egyptans @ 17.293848
4 Samaritians @ 18.397758
5 Bedouin @ 18.874361
6 Syrians @ 18.905682
7 Morocco_Jews @ 19.216867
8 Lebanese @ 19.276802
9 Sephardic_Jews @ 21.016842
10 Druze @ 22.742828
11 Yemenese @ 24.190037
12 Cypriots @ 24.294785
13 Ashkenazi @ 25.331604
14 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 26.402124
15 Iraq_Jews @ 27.045330
16 Yemen_Jews @ 27.815935
17 Sicilian @ 27.939342
18 S_Italian_Sicilian @ 28.105759
19 Iranian_Jews @ 30.451429
20 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 31.727289
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Morocco_Jews +50% Yemen_Jews @ 8.572141
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots +25% Moroccan +25% Saudis @ 7.479426
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
1 Algerian + Samaritians + Sephardic_Jews + Yemen_Jews @ 6.704845
2 Cypriots + Moroccan + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 6.793284
3 Algerian + Morocco_Jews + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 6.855524
4 Algerian + Cypriots + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 7.214803
5 Moroccan + Samaritians + Sephardic_Jews + Yemen_Jews @ 7.290415
6 Cypriots + Moroccan + Samaritians + Saudis @ 7.381565
7 Algerian + Ashkenazi + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 7.429540
8 Algerian + Samaritians + Sicilian + Yemen_Jews @ 7.463964
9 Cypriots + Cypriots + Moroccan + Saudis @ 7.479426
10 Algerian + S_Italian_Sicilian + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 7.502554
11 Algerian + Cypriots + Cypriots + Saudis @ 7.564158
12 Cypriots + Moroccans + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 7.581792
13 Algerian + Ashkenazy_Jews + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 7.718690
14 Algerian + Cypriots + Samaritians + Saudis @ 7.723834
15 Moroccan + Samaritians + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 7.782432
16 Moroccan + Morocco_Jews + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 7.835918
17 Ashkenazi + Moroccan + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 7.873002
18 Moroccans + Samaritians + Sephardic_Jews + Yemen_Jews @ 7.893068
19 Moroccan + S_Italian_Sicilian + Samaritians + Yemen_Jews @ 7.926881
20 Cypriots + Cypriots + Moroccans + Saudis @ 7.965985
*********************************************
This is the low quality one that's found now, of the same sample JK2888
Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.96
2 Southwest_Asian 29.52
3 Northwest_African 15.53
4 Atlantic_Med 6.88
5 East_African 6.82
6 South_Asian 3.29
Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.
--------------------------------
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Egyptans_Behar @ 12.430807
2 Palestinian_HGDP @ 13.417242
3 Jordanians_Behar @ 15.143099
4 Samaritians_Behar @ 18.079338
5 Lebanese_Behar @ 18.737535
6 Syrians_Behar @ 19.554722
7 Bedouin_HGDP @ 19.962990
8 Yemenese_Behar @ 20.895615
9 Druze_HGDP @ 22.050060
10 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 25.637562
11 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 26.741796
12 Cypriots_Behar @ 27.331322
13 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 27.650126
14 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 27.886875
15 Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 28.019062
16 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 29.502048
17 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 29.883759
18 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 30.771006
19 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 30.932173
20 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 31.144062
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Egyptans_Behar +50% Samaritians_Behar @ 10.072913
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze_HGDP +25% Moroccans_Behar +25% Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.464752
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Georgians_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Yemen_Jews_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 7.534451
2 Georgians_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 7.578277
3 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Moroccan_Dodecad + Yemen_Jews_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 7.930466
4 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Moroccans_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 7.987234
5 Bedouin_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 8.544870
6 Bedouin_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 8.692600
7 Druze_HGDP + Moroccans_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 8.870490
8 Algerian_Dodecad + Georgians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 8.953188
9 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Bedouin_HGDP + Moroccans_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.011747
10 Egyptans_Behar + Georgians_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.020508
11 Moroccans_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.078384
12 Armenians_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.110847
13 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Bedouin_HGDP + Moroccan_Dodecad + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.138754
14 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Algerian_Dodecad + Yemen_Jews_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.164083
15 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Moroccans_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.197598
16 Algerian_Dodecad + Egyptans_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 9.236594
17 Egyptans_Behar + Georgians_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.237656
18 Druze_HGDP + Moroccan_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.269795
19 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Moroccans_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.292965
20 Moroccan_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 9.294150
Done.
MINARDOWICZ
11-26-2020, 02:51 PM
BUMP! ANYONE have these kits? Even low quality SNPs.
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