more Kurds . state the main phenotypes please

[Hadouken]

just state the main phenotypes you see and dont go off topic please

I will post many pics in this thread so please wait until I say that the pics are ready . unfortunately one can only post 20 pics in a post which sucks

this will be the last thread for a while from me

more classify threads of kurds which I created :

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?231911-Classify-another-Kurdish-set-please

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?231880-classify-some-Kurdish-people-state-the-main-types-please

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?237863-Classify-some-Kurds

thank you

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[Hadouken]

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[Hadouken]

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[Hadouken]

the pics are ready . you can post if you want

[Tooting Carmen]

Generally speaking, they look Northern Middle Eastern. However, a few could pass as Gulf Arab and/or South Asian, while at the other extreme the proportion who could pass in Balkan and Euro-Med countries is at least equally high as for the (imo highly whitewashed) Levantines.

[Hadouken]

Generally speaking, they look Northern Middle Eastern. However, a few could pass as Gulf Arab and/or South Asian, while at the other extreme the proportion who could pass in Balkan and Euro-Med countries is at least equally high as for the (imo highly whitewashed) Levantines.

I dont see the gulf arab and south asian thing tbh. and there are no "extremes" either . I put some pics with bad lightning or suntan with intention . the most exotic ones would pass as places like jordan or as pashtuns maybe but thats it and most look undeniably northwest asian. anybody who knows a thing or two will agree with me

and as I told you before I dont want you to post in my threads because you are a troll which you proved often enough

even though I am asking for others opinions I will not let people like you run their agenda in my threads . why must you be the one and even the first one to post here . just stay the fuck away dude seriously ....I am sick of you

[Mbreti]

Meds mostly , they look what they are.

[Kivan]

Many East/Meds and Taurids.

[Zroota]

East Meds, Assyrids, Taurids, Anatolids and a few Iranids/Robust Iranids.

[Sikeliot]

About half of them look Albanian to me, and the other half Afghan. I can tell them from Armenians easier than expected.

[Teucer]

A lot in the first set can pass as Cypriots

[Hadouken]

About half of them look Albanian to me, and the other half Afghan. I can tell them from Armenians easier than expected.

stop trolling . in case you are not trolling then I have to say : wtf lol

Armenians are one of the closest ethnicity to us in terms of looks and you always said it yourself . maybe because I said that Armenians look close to us you are now saying that they dont to maybe trigger me ? thinking that I love the comparison ...I dont know ... . Armenians in my province are basically indistuingishable from us btw. . and after seeing more armenians I have to say that they are closer to us than I thought which I also said here in this thread :

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?235672-Lebanese-have-similar-Dances-Music-to-us

either way Afghans look foreign to me often and many dont pass . I can tell them apart most of the time . there are some Afghans who do pass of course but "half look afghan" my ass . neither Albanian . there are some Albanians where I see resemblance to kurds and some will pass but dont exeggerate .... looking for the extremes as usual . btw you said that Afghans often look Armenian and other west asian to you so it doesnt even make sense what you say

[Sikeliot]

stop trolling . in case you are not trolling then I have to say : wtf lol


Do not ask for my opinion and then accuse me of trolling.

EDIT: did you even ask me? I forget. But it is my opinion.

[Hadouken]

Do not ask for my opinion and then accuse me of trolling.

I didnt ask you for your opinion . I sometimes do/have .not often though and not for this thread :D

and I dont mean to offend you but what you say is nonsense ....

and I can sense a subliminal trolling or similar intention . I am not stupid .

[Sikeliot]

I didnt ask you for your opinion . I sometimes do/have . but not for this thread :D

and I dont mean to offend you but what you say is nonsense ....

and I can sense a subliminal trolling or similar intention . I am not stupid .

To me they are clearly distinguishable from any Semitic groups and they look Caucasian first and foremost. I see a resemblance to Albanians as well. IF you disagree that is fine but it is my opinion.

[Hadouken]

To me they are clearly distinguishable from any Semitic groups and they look Caucasian first and foremost. I see a resemblance to Albanians as well. IF you disagree that is fine but it is my opinion.

I see overlap when I look at north Levantine groups (Lebanese , some Syrian groups , Assyrians etc) . leave the language thing beside for once . but yes we are closer to the caucasus than to most semitic speaking groups . and closer to the caucasus than to many levantines too . but it also dedpends on the province

what I can tell you is that afghans look in many cases foreign and unpassable as kurdish despite what you said and those "semitic groups" I just listed fit often better than many "iranic groups" such as afghans . afghans are diverse though and I have seen afghans who can fit easily but those afghans who fit among us in most cases fit as other west asian too

albanians I know what you mean but many albanians also look different . I dont know why albanians in particular :D if you want to take a european group that has overlaps with us then there are some other too which do

[Tauromachos]

Cappadocian Med types,Anadolids,Alpine influenced types
some Aegean Med like types

Alot pass as Armenians or in Caucasus and other parts of Anatolia.

Some look Syrian or North Levante

More of them pass as general Greeks than as Albanians.

More of them pass as Greek Cypriots than general Greeks


Other parts where some do pass fine in Europe are Portugal and South Italy

[Massagetae]

Definitely some Armenians in there. They look different than the Kurds I see from Syria/Iraq/Iran.

[Hadouken]

Definitely some Armenians in there. They look different that the Kurds I see from Syria/Iraq/Iran.

no . they are all kurdish

[Massagetae]

Looks very Armenian to me.

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[Hadouken]

next time I will post some Turanid kurds for you :D

[Mbreti]

I agree about overlapping with Syrians , Lebanese and Armenians but this just shows that racial anthropology which is based on skull measurement and other close measurements and inspections of a persons physical characteristics and actual phenotype, are two different things.

This of course because Kurds are actually mostly Doli and Med in skull while Lebanese, Syrians and Armenians are brachy and more like Dinaricized Meds while Kurds have kept their Doli element for most part.

Racially , Kurds are closer to Afghans than to those groups but not actual lookwise or genetics neccessarily.


I know this can be hard to understand but I could explain it more in depth.


Some can also pass individually for Albanians but group wise they look like West Asians like Kurds, Syrians, Assyrians etc.

[Massagetae]

next time I will post some Turanid kurds for you :D

Sounds good. I like Turanid Kurds. :)

[Hadouken]

I agree about overlapping with Syrians , Lebanese and Armenians but this just shows that racial anthropology which is based on skull measurement and other close measurements and inspections of a persons physical characteristics and actual phenotype, are two different things.

This of course because Kurds are actually mostly Doli and Med in skull while Lebanese, Syrians and Armenians are brachy.

Racially , Kurds are closer to Afghans than to those groups but not actual lookwise or genetics neccessarily.


I know this can be hard to understand but I could explain it more in depth.


Some can also pass individually for Albanians but group wise they look like West Asians like Kurds, Syrians, Assyrians etc.

this doesnt make sense :D

btw. many kurds are brachy or meso including myself

and we are genetically and phenotypically a lot closer to our neighbors than to afghans . I already posted my results and also posted many kurds and as a kurd I tell you myself that many afghans look too foreign to pass

[Massagetae]

Some can also pass individually for Albanians but group wise they look like West Asians like Kurds, Syrians, Assyrians etc.

There is a subset of Kurds that look very similar to certain Albanians. It's something I noticed a while back. Likely very few in number though.

[MysteriousWays]

Best fit is probably Armenia, although there is definitely some overlap with Assyrians as well. Levant is probably next closest in terms of phenotype, but as a group, I find them distinguishable from Syrians or Lebanese. I agree with hadouken that I do not find them to look Afghan as a group, nor Iranian.

Phenotypes: Most common are East Med, Taurid/Assyrid, with Asiatic Alpine influence and Iranid influence evident in some individuals.

[Mbreti]

What I said makes perfect sense ^

Somalis look nothing like Nordics to the average person on the street but they were said to resemble Nordics and Atlanto Meds in some physical characteristics, now, for a person like me who has an idea about anthropology I can see the resemblance.

Same for Albanian Ghegs were said to resemble Nordics and Atlanto Meds from neck and down but were morhpologically Dinaric from neck and up. Or Iranic speakers. Same way I see how Nordics and Meds resemble eachother.

Mind you racial anthropology isnt just the face or looking at pictures but the every detail of the whole body including height and even weight. Nose, eyes, ears, skull, bones , hair texture etc every single detail. This cannot be done over the internet.


Unless you think for example that all Alpine Europeans look the same because they are all part of the Alpine race found in Europe and can pass amongst eachothers ethnicities.

Going by that logic, a Norwegian Alpine and an Alpine Albanian should look the same which we both know is bullshit

Phenotype or the way a person looks to the average eye on the streets and actual racial characteristics are different things.

These taxonomies and looking at pics is anthrotardism. Racial anthropology wasnt meant to be done this way over a screen.

Armenian, Lebanese and Albanian as a whole group look nothing alike on average despite they are morhpologically similar in many racial characteristics, as all three groups are Dinaricized. They might have individuals that could pass amongst eachother.

Same way for Swiss people that are Dinaric but look nothing like Dinaric Albanians, an Albanian is still closer to a Greek than a Dinaric Swiss genetically.

Same way Albanians are genetically close to Greeks but look nothing alike. Also many Italians look nothing like Albanians but they are many genetically quite close people more than any other groups. On calcs Albs get Italian and Greek the most.


Armenians are btw partially of same Med stock as Iranics/Afghans/Kurds but they are Dinaricized/Armenid version of it. So they actually do belong partially to same race. Most Caucasoid people do. As Caucasoids are mostly just Meds and Upper Paleolithic.

Nordic, Atlanto Med , Irano Afghan and small Meds are just sub branches of the wider Med race. And all part of the Caucasoid race.


Yes, many Kurds, especially ones in Turkey and in Iraq are brachy but on average Kurds as a whole group are not as brachy as like Syrians or Armenians or Lebanese neither as Dinaricized since Kurds actually kept their ancient Doliphalic.

The Bronze Age people that spread the Indo European languages were Doli. Same for the many farmers probably.


Those others mixed more with a brachyphalic population after Bronze age expansion and farmer expansion probably.

You need to understand human history is so much more complex.

Take also into consideration pigmentation which is the result of natural selection and people of same race that have migrated to different areas developed pigmentational differences , hence the pigmentational difference among the Nordics and the othet Meds despite being of same racial origin.


Btw, many Kurds I have seen irl looked nothing like Armenians or Syrians, they actually looked closer to Iranics and some even Levant. But still not 100% like them.

Some did resemble Syrians and Armenians.


I guess it depends where in Kurdistan they are from.


I could personally show pics of these Kurds in a personal taxonomy thread if you wish and see what you think.

[Hadouken]

What I said makes perfect sense ^

Somalis look nothing like Nordics to the average person on the street but they were said to resemble Nordics and Atlanto Meds in some physical characteristics, now, for a person like me who has an idea about anthropology I can see the resemblance.

Same for Albanian Ghegs were said to resemble Nordics and Atlanto Meds from neck and down but were morhpologically Dinaric from neck and up. Or Iranic speakers. Same way I see how Nordics and Meds resemble eachother.

Mind you racial anthropology isnt just the face or looking at pictures but the every detail of the whole body including height and even weight. Nose, eyes, ears, skull, bones , hair texture etc every single detail. This cannot be done over the internet.


Unless you think for example that all Alpine Europeans look the same because they are all part of the Alpine race found in Europe and can pass amongst eachothers ethnicities.

Going by that logic, a Norwegian Alpine and an Alpine Albanian should look the same which we both know is bullshit

Phenotype or the way a person looks to the average eye on the streets and actual racial characteristics are different things.

These taxonomies and looking at pics is anthrotardism. Racial anthropology wasnt meant to be done this way over a screen.

Armenian, Lebanese and Albanian as a whole group look nothing alike on average despite they are morhpologically similar in many racial characteristics, as all three groups are Dinaricized. They might have individuals that could pass amongst eachother.

Same way for Swiss people that are Dinaric but look nothing like Dinaric Albanians, an Albanian is still closer to a Greek than a Dinaric Swiss genetically.

Same way Albanians are genetically close to Greeks but look nothing alike. Also many Italians look nothing like Albanians but they are many genetically quite close people more than any other groups. On calcs Albs get Italian and Greek the most.


Armenians are btw partially of same Med stock as Iranics/Afghans/Kurds but they are Dinaricized/Armenid version of it. So they actually do belong partially to same race. Most Caucasoid people do. As Caucasoids are mostly just Meds and Upper Paleolithic.

Nordic, Atlanto Med , Irano Afghan and small Meds are just sub branches of the wider Med race. And all part of the Caucasoid race.


Yes, many Kurds, especially ones in Turkey and in Iraq are brachy but on average Kurds as a whole group are not as brachy as like Syrians or Armenians or Lebanese neither as Dinaricized since Kurds actually kept their ancient Doliphalic.

The Bronze Age people that spread the Indo European languages were Doli. Same for the many farmers probably.


Those others mixed more with a brachyphalic population after Bronze age expansion and farmer expansion probably.

You need to understand human history is so much more complex.

Take also into consideration pigmentation which is the result of natural selection and people of same race that have migrated to different areas developed pigmentational differences , hence the pigmentational difference among the Nordics and the othet Meds despite being of same racial origin.


Btw, many Kurds I have seen irl looked nothing like Armenians or Syrians, they actually looked closer to Iranics and some even Levant. But still not 100% like them.

Some did resemble Syrians and Armenians.


I guess it depends where in Kurdistan they are from.


I could personally show pics of these Kurds in a personal taxonomy thread if you wish and see what you think.

you are banned now but I will still reply shortly

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there are many brachy and meso kurds . and there are doli armenians and especially syrians too .

and many doli kurds are east med / cappadocid and not all dolis are iranids . and many of the types that people classify as iranid or iranoafghan (often when they classify persians and afghans) looks foreign to me and many of those people dont pass as kurdish . what exactly the iranid type is seems a little blurry or is more diverse than thought . in kurds (especially turkey kurds) I think it makes more sense to call it west-iranid . and as I said many of us (when doli) are not even iranid and we have many "proper" mediterranids

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we look closer to our neighbors than to a lot of iranics . there is no such thing as a uniform iranic look . take ossetians , tajiks , balochs and compare them . if you think they will look much close generally then I dont know what to say anymore ...

even many persians look foreign as fuck to me and dont pass well as kurds

this is not to misunderstand . I like them . but I have to say the truth . I am not a conformist . only because I like other iranics or only because I find them beautiful I will not just agree with things when they are not true . the fact is that many other iranics dont pass among us

if I said that portuguese and romanians look very similar then several members would try to disprove this and disagree with it ..yet they are both romance speaking people and lookwise closer to each other than we are to even many iranians . and geographically closer to each other than we are to afghans/tajiks/balochs

I dont understand this tbh

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we are also autosomally closer to our neighbors than to afghans . we can be modelled as 20-25% afghan pashtun/tajik . the rest is caucasus and east med populations/references

this is what I get on several calculators :

50% Druze +25% Adygei +25% Pashtun_Afghan @ 4.180414

50% Armenian +25% Lebanese +25% Pashtun_Afghan @ 3.110409

50% Azeri_Jew +25% Cypriot +25% Pashtun @ 2.324339

Cypriot + Pashtun + Jew_Azerbaijan + Armenian @ 1.140984

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if you ask me as a good analyzer :cool: in my opinion lookwise we can be modelled like this (@Mysteriousways I am also refering to you because of your post) :

imagine it in a very childish/cartoon way : imagine you are a wizzard and have a pot in front of you and want to create/conjure us kurds and have several ethnicities as ingredients . take Georgians as a base . like put 50% Georgian in the pot . then add 30% Lebanese . and finally 20% Afghan Pashtun

and you will get very close to us . it doesnt mean that 50% of us pass as georgian 30% lebanese and 20% afghan . or that we are a mix of those ethnicities. thats not what I mean . what I mean is that if you mixed those ethnicities in the pot you would get close to what we look

and autosomally it would also be close to what I get in my 3 population approximation on calculators

of course it will also differ a bit from kurd to kurd and region to region but you get the point . of course you could also play this game taking other ethnicities like

50% Armenian + 30% Cypriot + 20% baloch

or 50% Cypriot + 25% Baloch + Chechen

or 50% Georgian_Jewtat +25% Cypriot +25% Pashtun @ 2.447618

or 75% Georgian Jewish + 25% Tajik

etc

[Catarinense1998]

What a great job you are doing hadouken.Congrats.

[Gangrel]

Definitely some Armenians in there. They look different than the Kurds I see from Syria/Iraq/Iran.

lol

[Odin]

East-Meds, Taurids, Cappadocian-Meds, and few Alpines.

[Hadouken]

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[Hadouken]

nobody ? :)

[CommonSense]

East-Meds, Anatolids, Asiatic-Alpines, Iranids. I see one guy who is CM influenced and even one Irano-Nordid.

[Hadouken]

some people in this thread talked shit when I was banned . fuck you all btw

[Hadouken]

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[Hadouken]

anybody ?

[Hadouken]

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[Fibonacci]

you are banned now but I will still reply shortly

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there are many brachy and meso kurds . and there are doli armenians and especially syrians too .

and many doli kurds are east med / cappadocid and not all dolis are iranids . and many of the types that people classify as iranid or iranoafghan (often when they classify persians and afghans) looks foreign to me and many of those people dont pass as kurdish . what exactly the iranid type is seems a little blurry or is more diverse than thought . in kurds (especially turkey kurds) I think it makes more sense to call it west-iranid . and as I said many of us (when doli) are not even iranid and we have many "proper" mediterranids

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we look closer to our neighbors than to a lot of iranics . there is no such thing as a uniform iranic look . take ossetians , tajiks , balochs and compare them . if you think they will look much close generally then I dont know what to say anymore ...

even many persians look foreign as fuck to me and dont pass well as kurds

this is not to misunderstand . I like them . but I have to say the truth . I am not a conformist . only because I like other iranics or only because I find them beautiful I will not just agree with things when they are not true . the fact is that many other iranics dont pass among us

if I said that portuguese and romanians look very similar then several members would try to disprove this and disagree with it ..yet they are both romance speaking people and lookwise closer to each other than we are to even many iranians . and geographically closer to each other than we are to afghans/tajiks/balochs

I dont understand this tbh

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we are also autosomally closer to our neighbors than to afghans . we can be modelled as 20-25% afghan pashtun/tajik . the rest is caucasus and east med populations/references

this is what I get on several calculators :

50% Druze +25% Adygei +25% Pashtun_Afghan @ 4.180414

50% Armenian +25% Lebanese +25% Pashtun_Afghan @ 3.110409

50% Azeri_Jew +25% Cypriot +25% Pashtun @ 2.324339

Cypriot + Pashtun + Jew_Azerbaijan + Armenian @ 1.140984

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if you ask me as a good analyzer :cool: in my opinion lookwise we can be modelled like this (@Mysteriousways I am also refering to you because of your post) :

imagine it in a very childish/cartoon way : imagine you are a wizzard and have a pot in front of you and want to create/conjure us kurds and have several ethnicities as ingredients . take Georgians as a base . like put 50% Georgian in the pot . then add 30% Lebanese . and finally 20% Afghan Pashtun

and you will get very close to us . it doesnt mean that 50% of us pass as georgian 30% lebanese and 20% afghan . or that we are a mix of those ethnicities. thats not what I mean . what I mean is that if you mixed those ethnicities in the pot you would get close to what we look

and autosomally it would also be close to what I get in my 3 population approximation on calculators

of course it will also differ a bit from kurd to kurd and region to region but you get the point . of course you could also play this game taking other ethnicities like

50% Armenian + 30% Cypriot + 20% baloch

or 50% Cypriot + 25% Baloch + Chechen

or 50% Georgian_Jewtat +25% Cypriot +25% Pashtun @ 2.447618

or 75% Georgian Jewish + 25% Tajik

etc

Iranians might look foreign to you but I see a lot of them with familiar Iranian faces. Infact, most of them look more Iranian than I do and as far as I know, my ancestors have always been living in the Azerbaijan province so I'm not foreign to Iran. Many of these people could pass in Iran. In major cities that is. Ive seen Persians and mazandaranis who have similar features and overall facial structure with many of these people. You can find Iranian Azeris with similarities to the more western shifted ones as well. But Iranian Azeris are probably the most Anatolian/caucasian shifted Iranians

[Hadouken]

Iranians might look foreign to you but I see a lot of them with familiar Iranian faces. Infact, most of them look more Iranian than I do and as far as I know, my ancestors have always been living in the Azerbaijan province so I'm not foreign to Iran. Many of these people could pass in Iran. In major cities that is. Ive seen Persians and mazandaranis who have similar features and overall facial structure to many of these people.

more kurds pass in iran than persians pass as kurds

[Fibonacci]

more kurds pass in iran than persians pass as kurds

Yes but what is Persian to you? Is it an ethnicity or a lingua franca? This idea that Persians are born as ethnic Persians like Kurds are born as ethnic Kurds is very invalid. Persian is the lingua franca that unites everyone in Iran. Whether if you are an Azeri or an Arab from ahwaz, you will be speaking Persian for the rest of your life if you were to be working in Tehran or any other city that is a Persian majoirty city which most developed cities are
I speak Persian as well as anyone would from Iran. A man could have clear SSA influence and identify as a Persian. Persian doesn't mean shit. Most people are attracted to the main cities where Persian is the only language you hear so they will be speaking it and probably identifying as a local.

Pure Persians don't exist as a whole like Kurds or azeris do, they only exist in their home province which is Fars. Even in that province, many do not look ethnic to Iran but rather mixed. Intermixes happen all the time and at that point it doesn't matter if you identify as a Persian or kurd. You can identify as both. It doesn't mean shit

[Hadouken]

Yes but what is Persian to you? Is it an ethnicity or a lingua franca? This idea that Persians are born as ethnic Persians like Kurds are born as ethnic Kurds is very invalid. Persian is the lingua franca that unites everyone in Iran. Whether if you are an Azeri or an Arab from ahwaz, you will be speaking Persian for the rest of your life if you were to be working in Tehran or any other city that is a Persian majoirty city which most developed cities are
I speak Persian as well as anyone would from Iran. A man could have clear SSA influence and identify as a Persian. Persian doesn't mean shit. Most people are attracted to the main cities where Persian is the only language you hear so they will be speaking it and probably identifying as a local.

Pure Persians don't exist as a whole like Kurds or azeris do, they only exist in their home province which is Fars. Even in that province, many do not look ethnic to Iran but rather mixed. Intermixes happen all the time and at that point it doesn't matter if you identify as a Persian or kurd. You can identify as both. It doesn't mean shit

without going into too much detail : just iranians in general look often foreign to me and dont pass among us that well .

I like iranians a lot btw. so dont get this wrong . but I noticed that many iranians look different from us . it doesnt mean that we can not pass in iran but many iranians dont pass among us

[Tooting Carmen]

without going into too much detail : just iranians in general look often foreign to me and dont pass among us that well .

I like iranians a lot btw. so dont get this wrong . but I noticed that many iranians look different from us . it doesnt mean that we can not pass in iran but many iranians dont pass among us

It is indeed usually the case that an overall lighter ethnicity has a higher percentage who can pass among an overall darker ethnicity than the reverse.

[FinalFlash]

A large chunk, maybe 30% would go unnoticed in Armenia or Georgia imo. Half, if not more will fit in Azerbaijan. Turkey is obvious. However, I definitely see a lot of overlap with Iranians as well. Maybe even the slight majority would be indistinguishable from NW Iranians. A large minority could also pass as Levantines or in Assyria.

Some individuals would fit in the Euro-Med and Balkanosphere. I dont see much Arabian or Indian influence. Maybe it's TRUE for other subsects of Kurds

[Hadouken]

A large chunk, maybe 30% would go unnoticed in Armenia or Georgia imo. Half, if not more will fit in Azerbaijan. Turkey is obvious. However, I definitely see a lot of overlap with Iranians as well. Maybe even the slight majority would be indistinguishable from NW Iranians. A large minority could also pass as Levantines or in Assyria.

Some individuals would fit in the Euro-Med and Balkanosphere. I dont see much Arabian or Indian influence. Maybe it's TRUE for other subsects of Kurds

why would we have indian or arabian influence ? wtf

and as I said I know many iranians and most dont pass among us but have something foreign about them . but I guess I still have to accept that we are interchangable just for the sake of it. otherwise people get offended . so stupid

[vargas]

East-Meds, Anatolids, Asiatic-Alpines, Iranids.

[Hadouken]

East-Meds, Anatolids, Asiatic-Alpines, Iranids.


thank you but I still dont understand the iranid stuff .

these are iranid plates . how many of us look like that ?

http://b2.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p483432/2.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/s28wbd.jpg

http://b2.ifrm.com/67/29/0/p483438/Image6.jpg

[FinalFlash]

why would we have indian or arabian influence ? wtf

and as I said I know many iranians and most dont pass among us but have something foreign about them . but I guess I still have to accept that we are interchangable just for the sake of it. otherwise people get offended . so stupid

I see that some users insinuate that Kurds have a small, yet sizable amount of south Asian ancestry or even Arabian. Based on your pictures, I don't see it to be true.

Iranians arent necessarily interchangeable with Turkey Kurds, but Turkey Kurds do have some visible overlap with Iranians. It makes sense considering the Zagros was where the Kurds came from originally

[Hadouken]

I see that some users insinuate that Kurds have a small, yet sizable amount of south Asian ancestry or even Arabian. Based on your pictures, I don't see it to be true.

Iranians arent necessarily interchangeable with Turkey Kurds, but Turkey Kurds do have some visible overlap with Iranians. It makes sense considering the Zagros was where the Kurds came from originally

our south asian score is less than 10% . I personally score zero percent on 23andme and around 6% on average on gedmatch . and it is ancient too . we have nothing to do with indians . only our gypsies do

but iraqi kurds have an arabian pull a little

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I think you see the iranian thing because you are influenced by knowing that they are kurds . dont get me wrong . I also think many would pass in iran but saying that we "look iranian" is bullshit . iranians often have different features and vibes . not necesserily too exotic either . just different .

it might seem from my posts that some people will think that I have something against iranians or that I find them to be bad looking . nothing could be further from the truth ...but what I hate is when people are simple minded aka .

A: "classify this man "

B : "looks east med . turkey , armenia , cyprus , georgia , lebanon . what is he ? "

A : "he is kurdish :)"

B : "oh uhm okaay . I would rather say Iranid ! looks hardcore iranian !!!!! "


when I read something like this I would love to punch the person

[FinalFlash]

our south asian score is less than 10% . I personally score zero percent on 23andme and around 6% on average on gedmatch . and it is ancient too . we have nothing to do with indians . only our gypsies do

but iraqi kurds have an arabian pull a little

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I think you see the iranian thing because you are influenced by knowing that they are kurds . dont get me wrong . I also think many would pass in iran but saying that we "look iranian" is bullshit . iranians often have different features and vibes . not necesserily too exotic either . just different .

it might seem from my posts that some people will think that I have something against iranians or that I find them to be bad looking . nothing could be further from the truth ...but what I hate is when people are simple minded aka .

A: "classify this man "

B : "looks east med . turkey , armenia , cyprus , georgia , lebanon . what is he ? "

A : "he is kurdish :)"

B : "oh uhm okaay . I would rather say Iranid ! looks hardcore iranian !!!!! "


when I read something like this I would love to punch the person

Hey dont get me wrong. I often too see this bias against Armenians on this forum.

"Classify this Armenian"
"Armenoid" "Armenoid" and "Armenoid" even though theres hardly any hint of Armenoid on many, if not the majority of Armenians. And those who are, usually have a combo of something else.

No I dont think the majority of Turkey Kurds are textbook Iranid either. All i said was that there is a good level of overlap between NW Iranians and Kurds. No need to make a mountain out of a molehill imo

[Hadouken]

Hey dont get me wrong. I often too see this bias against Armenians on this forum.

"Classify this Armenian"
"Armenoid" "Armenoid" and "Armenoid" even though theres hardly any hint of Armenoid on many, if not the majority of Armenians. And those who are, usually have a combo of something else.

No I dont think the majority of Turkey Kurds are textbook Iranid either. All i said was that there is a good level of overlap between NW Iranians and Kurds. No need to make a mountain out of a molehill imo

and I say to you as a kurd that many iranians dont pass as kurds :D the overlap between us is EXTREMELY exeggerated

[FinalFlash]

and I say to you as a kurd that many iranians dont pass as kurds :D the overlap between us is EXTREMELY exeggerated

Well, you look different as a whole sure.

[Westbrook]

A lot in the first set can pass as Cypriots

Good to see there's still Greeks in Cyprus


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[TheForeigner]

Definetly different looking from Arabs. Interesting how dissimilar northern Near Easterners are from southern ones. Lighter pigmented and closer to Europeans in appearance. Must be all that Indo-European ancestry and the less hot climate.

[Mark]

Pontid, Anatolid, robust Irainid to nordo-Iranid, other Taurid influences like armenoid.

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