Eurogenes K13 (Crotone, Calabria) Italy.

[FilhoV]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.82
2 West_Med 23.21
3 West_Asian 16.15
4 North_Atlantic 12.68
5 Red_Sea 6.68
6 Baltic 5.1
7 Sub-Saharan 1.46
8 Oceanian 0.34
9 South_Asian 0.31
10 East_Asian 0.15
11 Amerindian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 4.55
2 Algerian_Jewish 6.45
3 East_Sicilian 6.67
4 Sephardic_Jewish 6.77
5 Italian_Jewish 7.55
6 Central_Greek 7.63
7 Ashkenazi 8.65
8 Tunisian_Jewish 9.89
9 West_Sicilian 10.16
10 Cyprian 10.24
11 Libyan_Jewish 10.81
12 Italian_Abruzzo 10.99
13 Greek_Thessaly 14.56
14 Lebanese_Muslim 14.7
15 Syrian 15.96
16 Tuscan 16.93
17 Samaritan 17.43
18 Turkish 18.37
19 Lebanese_Christian 18.55
20 Jordanian 19.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.8% Cyprian + 21.2% Southwest_French @ 1.78
2 78% Cyprian + 22% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.9
3 71.3% South_Italian + 28.7% Cyprian @ 2.08
4 75.7% Cyprian + 24.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.17
5 75.4% Cyprian + 24.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.2
6 69.8% Cyprian + 30.2% North_Italian @ 2.2
7 76.4% Cyprian + 23.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.22
8 77% Cyprian + 23% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.25
9 76.5% Cyprian + 23.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.3
10 78.3% Cyprian + 21.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.39
11 82.6% Cyprian + 17.4% French_Basque @ 2.41
12 50.2% West_Sicilian + 49.8% Cyprian @ 2.41
13 75.8% Cyprian + 24.2% Portuguese @ 2.45
14 77.1% Cyprian + 22.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.47
15 77% Cyprian + 23% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.47
16 81.9% South_Italian + 18.1% Samaritan @ 2.49
17 82.9% South_Italian + 17.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.52
18 62.8% Cyprian + 37.2% Tuscan @ 2.54
19 76.2% Cyprian + 23.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.56
20 80.6% South_Italian + 19.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.94

[Sikeliot]

Equidistant between Thessaly and Lebanon, and equidistant between Cyprus and Abruzzo. Interesting.

[Sikeliot]

Could I see their Dodecad K12b and their MDLP K23?

[FilhoV]

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.7
2 Atlantic_Med 26.78
3 Southwest_Asian 15.24
4 North_European 8.76
5 Gedrosia 7.43
6 Northwest_African 3.91
7 East_African 1.07
8 Southeast_Asian 0.08
9 Sub_Saharan 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 3.95
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.31
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.91
4 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 6.78
5 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 7.03
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 7.53
7 Greek (Dodecad) 12.67
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.38
9 Cypriots (Behar) 13.66
10 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.17
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.28
12 Lebanese (Behar) 17.56
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.96
14 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.46
15 Syrians (Behar) 20.16
16 Turks (Behar) 20.3
17 Druze (HGDP) 20.43
18 Jordanians (Behar) 21.18
19 Palestinian (HGDP) 22.72
20 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 23.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62% Druze (HGDP) + 38% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 1.36
2 64.9% Druze (HGDP) + 35.1% Spaniards (Behar) @ 1.71
3 64.4% Druze (HGDP) + 35.6% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.71
4 66.1% Druze (HGDP) + 33.9% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 1.74
5 66.3% Druze (HGDP) + 33.7% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 1.74
6 80.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 19.1% Jordanians (Behar) @ 1.84
7 63.2% Druze (HGDP) + 36.8% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 1.92
8 65.3% Druze (HGDP) + 34.7% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 1.92
9 66.6% Druze (HGDP) + 33.4% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 1.95
10 78.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.7% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.02
11 78% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.02
12 62.9% Druze (HGDP) + 37.1% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 2.09
13 62.9% Druze (HGDP) + 37.1% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 2.17
14 62.9% Druze (HGDP) + 37.1% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 2.18
15 82.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 17.6% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.19
16 80.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 19.4% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.21
17 65.6% Druze (HGDP) + 34.4% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 2.22
18 65.6% Druze (HGDP) + 34.4% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 2.24
19 79.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 20.6% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.25
20 76.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.3

[FilhoV]

MDLP K23b Oracle results:

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.82
2 European_Early_Farmers 22.73
3 Near_East 13.43
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 7.93
5 North_African 6.92
6 South_Central_Asian 5.4
7 Paleo_Siberian 1.15
8 South_Indian 1.01
9 Ancestral_Altaic 0.97
10 Archaic_Human 0.55
11 African_Pygmy 0.44
12 Khoisan 0.43
13 Subsaharian 0.2
14 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian_East ( ) 2.82
2 Italian_Jew ( ) 3.78
3 French_Jew ( ) 3.91
4 Turk_Jew ( ) 4.4
5 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 4.42
6 Ashkenazi ( ) 4.42
7 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 4.71
8 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 4.85
9 Romanian_Jew ( ) 5.49
10 Cretan ( ) 5.99
11 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 6.42
12 Sicilian_Center ( ) 6.5
13 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 6.79
14 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 7.25
15 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 7.4
16 Central_Greek ( ) 7.88
17 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 8.05
18 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 8.13
19 Greek ( ) 8.16
20 Sicilian_West ( ) 8.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.4% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) + 37.6% Cypriot ( ) @ 1.7
2 76.2% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) + 23.8% Druze ( ) @ 1.74
3 65.4% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 34.6% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.77
4 83.4% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 16.6% Lebanese_Christian ( ) @ 1.79
5 74.4% Cypriot ( ) + 25.6% Portugese ( ) @ 1.82
6 63.9% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 36.1% Greek ( ) @ 1.86
7 83.6% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 16.4% Lebanese_Druze ( ) @ 1.88
8 64.5% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 35.5% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.91
9 71.9% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) + 28.1% Lebanese_Christian ( ) @ 1.91
10 63.7% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 36.3% Greek_Phokaia ( ) @ 1.96
11 68.3% Turk_Jew ( ) + 31.7% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.96
12 91.5% Sicilian_East ( )

[Sikeliot]

This person is less than 10% North European on Dodecad.. that is pretty low even for a southern Italian.

[Tauromachos]

This person is less than 10% North European on Dodecad.. that is pretty low even for a southern Italian.


What i see is that the first person gets Central Greek in his top 10 at place 6.

He also gets East Sicilian at 3

1 South_Italian 4.55
2 Algerian_Jewish 6.45
3 East_Sicilian 6.67
4 Sephardic_Jewish 6.77
5 Italian_Jewish 7.55
6 Central_Greek 7.63
7 Ashkenazi 8.65

[Sikeliot]

What i see is that the first person gets Central Greek in his top 10 at place 6.

He also gets East Sicilian at 3

1 South_Italian 4.55
2 Algerian_Jewish 6.45
3 East_Sicilian 6.67
4 Sephardic_Jewish 6.77
5 Italian_Jewish 7.55
6 Central_Greek 7.63
7 Ashkenazi 8.65


That "East Sicilian" is analogous to the "East-Central Sicily" cluster in Sarno. Palermo is closer to that, than the Trapani-based West Sicily.

On PuntDNA-L K13, this person is closer to all 3 Lebanese groups than to Thessalian Greeks:

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 38.55
2 West_Asia 27.39
3 SW_Asia 17.93
4 NE_Europe 11.7
5 South_Africa 1.44
6 SE_Asia 1.19
7 South_Asia 0.92
8 Oceania 0.34
9 Americas 0.29
10 West_Africa 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jew 4.55
2 Italian_Sicilian 5.5
3 Ashkenazy_Jew 6.07
4 Cypriot 8.77
5 Italian_Abruzzo 10.74
6 Greek_Central 11.15
7 Turkish 13.23
8 Lebanese_Christian 14.33
9 Syrian 14.61
10 Turkish_Kayseri 14.76
11 Lebanese_Druze 14.91
12 Lebanese_Muslim 15.89
13 Greek_Thessaly 16.34
14 Jordanian 16.66
15 Albanian 17.03
16 Turkish_Aydin 17.27
17 Kosovar 18.24
18 Italian_Tuscan 18.32
19 Palestinian 19.49
20 Armenian 19.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.6% Italian_Sicilian + 36.4% Cypriot @ 2.77
2 61% Ashkenazy_Jew + 39% Cypriot @ 3.03
3 78.2% Cypriot + 21.8% Spaniard @ 3.11
4 82% Cypriot + 18% French_Basque @ 3.15
5 74.4% Cypriot + 25.6% Italian_Bergamo @ 3.22
6 55.7% Cypriot + 44.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.28
7 76% Italian_Sicilian + 24% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.3
8 76.9% Italian_Sicilian + 23.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.34
9 82.1% Italian_Sicilian + 17.9% Samaritan_Jew @ 3.36
10 69% Cypriot + 31% Italian_Tuscan @ 3.4
11 86.7% Sephardic_Jew + 13.3% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3.4
12 78.3% Italian_Sicilian + 21.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.44
13 72% Lebanese_Druze + 28% French_Basque @ 3.56
14 82.4% Italian_Sicilian + 17.6% Assyrian @ 3.57
15 77.4% Italian_Sicilian + 22.6% Syrian @ 3.63
16 72.9% Lebanese_Christian + 27.1% French_Basque @ 3.65
17 82.4% Italian_Sicilian + 17.6% Armenian @ 3.67
18 81.3% Cypriot + 18.7% French @ 3.74
19 83% Italian_Sicilian + 17% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3.75
20 80.7% Ashkenazy_Jew + 19.3% Samaritan_Jew @ 3.76

[Tauromachos]

I suppose East Sicilian is what it says South East and North East Sicily not Central Sicily

Also i have seen in the past Mainland Greek results posted who get East Sicily in their top 10 or top 5.

You always claim Calabrians have 0 Mainland Greek ancestry.

This may be correct in the sence they have no recent ancestry from Mainland Greeks.
"Medieval and Post Medieval"

But they might have some from Ancient Greeks who came from the Mainland and settled there.
But since then they were isolated from Mainland Greek populations.

Wouldn't this make sense
Kroton was an Ancient Greek colony as well.

[Sikeliot]

I suppose East Sicilian is what it says South East and North East Sicily not Central Sicily

Also i have seen in the past Mainland Greek results posted who get East Sicily in their top 10 or top 5.

You always claim Calabrians have 0 Mainland Greek ancestry.

This may be correct in the sence they have no recent ancestry from Mainland Greeks.
"Medieval and Post Medieval"

But they might have some from Ancient Greeks who came from the Mainland and settled there.
But since then they were isolated from Mainland Greek populations.

Wouldn't this make sense
Kroton was an Ancient Greek colony as well.



No idea But this person scoring Lebanese before Thessalians is pretty telling as to how they relate to most mainland Greeks.

[Tauromachos]

No idea But this person scoring Lebanese before Thessalians is pretty telling as to how they relate to most mainland Greeks.

In the result i refered to i don't see Lebanese before Central Greek

Only Jewish things Algerian,Sephardic and Italian Jews.

And Mainlanders get Jewish things as well look for example at the Maniot result posted by Sorceflow.

Also alot of Southern Mainlanders get Central Greek before Albanian.

I remember Messinian results posted with Central Greek at place 1 or 2.

[Bobby Martnen]

Damn, this dude is even less White than Sicilians

[Sikeliot]

Damn, this dude is even less White than Sicilians

Calabria absorbed many Jews.

[Sikeliot]

In the result i refered to i don't see Lebanese before Central Greek

Only Jewish things Algerian,Sephardic and Italian Jews.

And Mainlanders get Jewish things as well look for example at the Maniot result posted by Sorceflow.

Also alot of Southern Mainlanders get Central Greek before Albanian.

I remember Messinian results posted with Central Greek at place 1 or 2.

Central Greek cluster includes some islanders.

[Tauromachos]

Central Greek cluster includes some islanders.

So what ?

Southern Mainlanders for example Messinians get this at 1 or 2 before anything Albanian.

Maniot"not even from Deep but from Outer Mani"

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 3.69
2 Central_Greek 3.9
3 West_Sicilian 3.92
4 Italian_Abruzzo 4.98
5 South_Italian 5.49
6 Ashkenazi 6.15
7 Greek_Thessaly 7.23
8 Tuscan 9.29
9 Italian_Jewish 10.32
10 Sephardic_Jewish 10.75
11 Algerian_Jewish 10.9
12 Tunisian_Jewish 14.8
13 Libyan_Jewish 15.42
14 North_Italian 15.67
15 Bulgarian 15.9
16 Romanian 17.83
17 Cyprian 18.08
18 Lebanese_Muslim 21.55
19 Serbian 21.81
20 Turkish 22.59




Tsakonian
1 Greek_Central 3.39
2 Italian_Abruzzo 3.7
3 Ashkenazy_Jew 4.27
4 Italian_Sicilian 5.47
5 Greek_Thessaly 7.36
6 Albanian 7.99
7 Sephardic_Jew 9.23
8 Kosovar 9.26
9 Italian_Tuscan 9.76
10 Bulgarian 13.99
11 Macedonian 14.4
12 Italian_Bergamo 15.73
13 Turkish 15.87
14 Romanian 16.28
15 Montenegrin 17.06
16 Cypriot 17.14
17 Turkish_Aydin 17.66
18 Turkish_Kayseri 18.48
19 Serbian 19.6
20 Balkar 20.86

Messinia:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Central 3.47
2 Greek_Thessaly 4.43
3 Albanian 4.9
4 Italian_Abruzzo 5.29
5 Kosovar 5.87
6 Italian_Tuscan 7.5
7 Ashkenazy_Jew 7.87
8 Italian_Sicilian 9.37
9 Bulgarian 10.07
10 Macedonian 10.48
11 Romanian 12.13
12 Sephardic_Jew 12.51
13 Montenegrin 12.87
14 Italian_Bergamo 13.62
15 Serbian 15.51
16 Turkish 17.87
17 Turkish_Aydin 18.8
18 Bosnian 19.15

Messinia:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 3.56
2 Greek_Central 4.05
3 Greek_Thessaly 4.9
4 Albanian 5.3
5 Kosovar 6.58
6 Italian_Tuscan 6.89
7 Ashkenazy_Jew 6.92
8 Italian_Sicilian 8.05
9 Bulgarian 11.3
10 Macedonian 11.5
11 Sephardic_Jew 11.55
12 Italian_Bergamo 12.89
13 Romanian 13.74
14 Montenegrin 14.29
15 Serbian 16.76
16 Turkish 18.57
17 Spaniard 18.67
18 Turkish_Aydin 19.81
19 Cypriot 20.11
20 Bosnian 20.54