K36 Similarity Map Thoughts

[_Odin_]

What are your initial thoughts looking at this map?

https://thumb.ibb.co/cJhC7x/K36_similarity_map.png (https://ibb.co/cJhC7x)

[Aren]

Post your scores. Your highest match is only at 82, that's pretty low.

[_Odin_]

Thanks for taking a look. My scores are below.

https://thumb.ibb.co/mQp60H/951_D2389_B666_4_AB2_99_F9_3120_B59_B93_AA.jpg (https://ibb.co/mQp60H)

[_Odin_]

Someone mentioned that this may align with Norse settlements. In particular, the fact the Orkney Islands are hotter than the rest of Britain.

[Not a Cop]

Someone mentioned that this may align with Norse settlements. In particular, the fact the Orkney Islands are hotter than the rest of Britain.

Nah, it looks more like a Central German result than anything.

[_Odin_]

Nah, it looks more like a Central German result than anything.

What specifically shows you that it is central German?

[ovidiu]

How do you get those maps? Is it something separate from the GedMatch result page?

[Kouros]

How do you get those maps? Is it something separate from the GedMatch result page?

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

[oszkar07]

Looks North to Central Germanic but not particuliarly Scando.
Its also quite North West Euro slanted.

I get as high as 86 in East Germany and I think 87 in Austria.
I get your highest score of 83 in Hungary.

[oszkar07]

Thanks for taking a look. My scores are below.

https://thumb.ibb.co/mQp60H/951_D2389_B666_4_AB2_99_F9_3120_B59_B93_AA.jpg (https://ibb.co/mQp60H)

Interesting you get 8.16 East Balkan , but you dont cluster too much in Balkan region your highest score there is 67, my East Balkan score on the K36 is less than yours at 5.80 but in the K36 map my highest Balkan clustering = 74.

What is your known heritage ?

[_Odin_]

Interesting you get 8.16 East Balkan , but you dont cluster too much in Balkan region your highest score there is 67, my East Balkan score on the K36 is less than yours at 5.80 but in the K36 map my highest Balkan clustering = 74.

What is your known heritage ?

Yes it’s a very interesting result for me. My know heritage is 100% German. Specifically from Bavaria. 23 and me is also telling me that it is likely I have a Scandinavian great great grandparent. I’m not familiar with my fathers near ancestry so it’s possble but otherwise I have no such known ancestry from my mothers side.

[Jägerstaffel]

http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag83/Jagerstaffel/Capture2_zps7h3g5ozb.png~original

[someonenotyou]

https://i.imgur.com/KKWjgGA.png
Any reason why all my score are under 80%?

[oszkar07]

https://i.imgur.com/KKWjgGA.png
Any reason why all my score are under 80%?

Im not sure why some people score under 80's , ive seen some other European members get less than 80.
Seems your highest score is in Austria at 78 then Hungary at 77.
Its weird Im only half Hungarian , I am scoring 83 in Hungary.

[someonenotyou]

Im not sure why some people score under 80's , ive seen some other European members get less than 80.
Seems your highest score is in Austria at 78 then Hungary at 77.
Its weird Im only half Hungarian , I am scoring 83 in Hungary.

Especially interest when both sides of my family are Hungarian.

[someonenotyou]

Here's my kit number if anyone is interested.

YS8863888

[oszkar07]

Here's my kit number if anyone is interested.

YS8863888

doesnt seem to work , is this Gedmatch kit, ?

[someonenotyou]

doesnt seem to work , is this Gedmatch kit, ?

Cause it's for genesis. Here's the one for the regular. M458962

[oszkar07]

Cause it's for genesis. Here's the one for the regular. M458962

ok Kosz , i will try it.

[oszkar07]

someonenotyou

Eu JTest

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.41
2 EAST_EURO 15.31
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.52
4 WEST_MED 14.1
5 ATLANTIC 12.97
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.21
7 EAST_MED 6.89
8 ASHKENAZI 5.44
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.76
10 SIBERIAN 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 AT 8.19
2 HU 9.47
3 Serbian 9.64
4 West_&_Central_German 12.04
5 RO 12.8
6 NL 13
7 FR 14.87
8 South_&_Central_Swedish 15.01
9 DK 15.04
10 NO 15.15
11 English 15.17
12 North_Swedish 15.94
13 Cornish 16.01
14 Orcadian 16.89
15 PL 17.47
16 IE 17.52
17 UA 17.8
18 North_Italian 17.96
19 PT 18.65
20 Ukrainian-Russian 18.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.8% Serbian + 33.2% NO @ 6.92
2 66.8% Serbian + 33.2% DK @ 7
3 66.9% Serbian + 33.1% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.06
4 62.6% Serbian + 37.4% NL @ 7.11
5 55.7% RO + 44.3% NO @ 7.17
6 67.8% Serbian + 32.2% English @ 7.28
7 55.5% RO + 44.5% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.33
8 60.5% Serbian + 39.5% West_&_Central_German @ 7.35
9 55.6% RO + 44.4% DK @ 7.36
10 69.8% Serbian + 30.2% North_Swedish @ 7.47
11 91.9% AT + 8.1% Lezgin @ 7.47
12 52.8% South_Finnish + 47.2% Tuscan @ 7.49
13 93.9% AT + 6.1% Kalash @ 7.55
14 50.9% Tuscan + 49.1% East_Finnish @ 7.56
15 93.9% AT + 6.1% GE @ 7.59
16 66.8% AT + 33.2% Serbian @ 7.65
17 95% AT + 5% Burusho @ 7.74
18 94.8% AT + 5.2% Balochi @ 7.74
19 50.6% RO + 49.4% NL @ 7.74
20 57.8% RO + 42.2% North_Swedish @ 7.75

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Finnish +50% Tuscan @ 8.173443


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% NO +25% South_Italian_&_Sicilian +25% Ukrainian-Russian @ 7.633754


Oszkar07

# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 23.1
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.04
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 17.4
4 EAST_EURO 14.93
5 WEST_MED 10.2
6 WEST_ASIAN 5.36
7 ASHKENAZI 4.88
8 EAST_MED 3.96
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.08
10 SIBERIAN 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 AT 5.4
2 West_&_Central_German 7.57
3 NL 8.49
4 HU 8.84
5 Cornish 9.97
6 Orcadian 10.11
7 South_&_Central_Swedish 10.22
8 NO 10.42
9 DK 10.54
10 English 10.76
11 IE 10.86
12 North_Swedish 11.39
13 Scottish 11.6
14 Serbian 12.71
15 FR 13.09
16 PL 14.8
17 RO 15.27
18 South_Finnish 15.61
19 UA 16.54
20 West_Russian 16.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.2% HU + 42.8% Scottish @ 2.5
2 55.5% HU + 44.5% IE @ 2.7
3 53.6% HU + 46.4% Orcadian @ 2.73
4 53.5% HU + 46.5% Cornish @ 3.45
5 65.1% Cornish + 34.9% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.54
6 63.7% Cornish + 36.3% West_Russian @ 3.75
7 73.9% AT + 26.1% Scottish @ 3.77
8 72.7% AT + 27.3% IE @ 3.81
9 71.2% AT + 28.8% Orcadian @ 3.86
10 63.7% Cornish + 36.3% UA @ 3.98
11 55.3% HU + 44.7% DK @ 4
12 51.3% NL + 48.7% HU @ 4.11
13 61% Cornish + 39% PL @ 4.12
14 56% HU + 44% English @ 4.15
15 56.5% FR + 43.5% West_Russian @ 4.16
16 75.6% AT + 24.4% North_Swedish @ 4.18
17 73.6% AT + 26.4% NO @ 4.18
18 73.9% AT + 26.1% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.29
19 55.2% HU + 44.8% NO @ 4.35
20 55.4% West_&_Central_German + 44.6% HU @ 4.37

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% HU +50% Orcadian @ 3.197612


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IE +25% RO +25% West_Russian @ 2.286935

[Jägerstaffel]

I wonder why all these maps plot me closer to the Netherlands and Northern Germany than Scotland or Ireland (considering my British Isles and Scandinavian ancestry). Germanic influence of the Anglo-Saxons?

[someonenotyou]

someonenotyou

Eu JTest

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.41
2 EAST_EURO 15.31
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 14.52
4 WEST_MED 14.1
5 ATLANTIC 12.97
6 WEST_ASIAN 7.21
7 EAST_MED 6.89
8 ASHKENAZI 5.44
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.76
10 SIBERIAN 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 AT 8.19
2 HU 9.47
3 Serbian 9.64
4 West_&_Central_German 12.04
5 RO 12.8
6 NL 13
7 FR 14.87
8 South_&_Central_Swedish 15.01
9 DK 15.04
10 NO 15.15
11 English 15.17
12 North_Swedish 15.94
13 Cornish 16.01
14 Orcadian 16.89
15 PL 17.47
16 IE 17.52
17 UA 17.8
18 North_Italian 17.96
19 PT 18.65
20 Ukrainian-Russian 18.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.8% Serbian + 33.2% NO @ 6.92
2 66.8% Serbian + 33.2% DK @ 7
3 66.9% Serbian + 33.1% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.06
4 62.6% Serbian + 37.4% NL @ 7.11
5 55.7% RO + 44.3% NO @ 7.17
6 67.8% Serbian + 32.2% English @ 7.28
7 55.5% RO + 44.5% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.33
8 60.5% Serbian + 39.5% West_&_Central_German @ 7.35
9 55.6% RO + 44.4% DK @ 7.36
10 69.8% Serbian + 30.2% North_Swedish @ 7.47
11 91.9% AT + 8.1% Lezgin @ 7.47
12 52.8% South_Finnish + 47.2% Tuscan @ 7.49
13 93.9% AT + 6.1% Kalash @ 7.55
14 50.9% Tuscan + 49.1% East_Finnish @ 7.56
15 93.9% AT + 6.1% GE @ 7.59
16 66.8% AT + 33.2% Serbian @ 7.65
17 95% AT + 5% Burusho @ 7.74
18 94.8% AT + 5.2% Balochi @ 7.74
19 50.6% RO + 49.4% NL @ 7.74
20 57.8% RO + 42.2% North_Swedish @ 7.75

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Finnish +50% Tuscan @ 8.173443


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% NO +25% South_Italian_&_Sicilian +25% Ukrainian-Russian @ 7.633754


Oszkar07

# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 23.1
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.04
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 17.4
4 EAST_EURO 14.93
5 WEST_MED 10.2
6 WEST_ASIAN 5.36
7 ASHKENAZI 4.88
8 EAST_MED 3.96
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.08
10 SIBERIAN 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 AT 5.4
2 West_&_Central_German 7.57
3 NL 8.49
4 HU 8.84
5 Cornish 9.97
6 Orcadian 10.11
7 South_&_Central_Swedish 10.22
8 NO 10.42
9 DK 10.54
10 English 10.76
11 IE 10.86
12 North_Swedish 11.39
13 Scottish 11.6
14 Serbian 12.71
15 FR 13.09
16 PL 14.8
17 RO 15.27
18 South_Finnish 15.61
19 UA 16.54
20 West_Russian 16.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.2% HU + 42.8% Scottish @ 2.5
2 55.5% HU + 44.5% IE @ 2.7
3 53.6% HU + 46.4% Orcadian @ 2.73
4 53.5% HU + 46.5% Cornish @ 3.45
5 65.1% Cornish + 34.9% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.54
6 63.7% Cornish + 36.3% West_Russian @ 3.75
7 73.9% AT + 26.1% Scottish @ 3.77
8 72.7% AT + 27.3% IE @ 3.81
9 71.2% AT + 28.8% Orcadian @ 3.86
10 63.7% Cornish + 36.3% UA @ 3.98
11 55.3% HU + 44.7% DK @ 4
12 51.3% NL + 48.7% HU @ 4.11
13 61% Cornish + 39% PL @ 4.12
14 56% HU + 44% English @ 4.15
15 56.5% FR + 43.5% West_Russian @ 4.16
16 75.6% AT + 24.4% North_Swedish @ 4.18
17 73.6% AT + 26.4% NO @ 4.18
18 73.9% AT + 26.1% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.29
19 55.2% HU + 44.8% NO @ 4.35
20 55.4% West_&_Central_German + 44.6% HU @ 4.37

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% HU +50% Orcadian @ 3.197612


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IE +25% RO +25% West_Russian @ 2.286935

Even here, you're still closer to Hungary than I am.:confused:

[oszkar07]

Even here, you're still closer to Hungary than I am.:confused:

Its hard to say with these calcs they all tend to vary , probably in other ones Im not.

I tried a one to one compare ...

(Oscar) and M458962

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 7,878,481 10,896,916 4.6 163
1 27,459,487 30,956,399 4.1 214
1 39,051,415 41,127,268 3.1 109
1 64,635,561 67,559,490 3.2 207
1 153,015,671 156,290,139 3.7 169
1 176,108,518 182,058,911 5.7 310
1 233,780,785 235,015,927 3.7 95
1 240,152,702 241,564,935 3.5 95
1 242,127,274 244,195,481 7.1 161
2 7,730,722 9,997,135 7.0 132
2 10,342,337 12,713,575 6.1 202
2 71,681,362 74,923,771 4.4 137
2 111,624,162 114,927,112 3.1 147
2 119,743,369 122,295,982 3.6 118
2 173,847,647 176,623,211 3.3 151
2 178,874,488 185,091,696 4.1 302
2 192,587,245 199,745,190 5.1 213
2 202,664,715 206,938,066 4.0 202
2 218,430,079 220,623,252 3.8 123
2 233,920,286 235,642,946 4.7 175
2 239,301,595 240,183,708 3.4 76
3 1,937,536 3,389,586 6.0 165
3 8,729,314 11,895,880 5.9 248
3 16,960,276 20,894,924 3.6 165
3 30,687,831 33,270,957 4.2 186
3 39,292,917 45,789,098 5.4 289
3 60,391,587 62,622,155 3.8 154
3 110,102,356 115,162,279 3.3 253
3 189,223,217 191,004,952 4.3 150
3 196,248,453 198,030,771 3.0 82
4 7,545,963 8,406,790 3.5 73
4 61,759,038 67,721,154 3.7 252
4 72,366,808 76,916,235 4.2 187
4 78,565,818 82,839,155 3.5 182
4 180,941,912 182,585,380 3.7 152
5 91,139 1,310,621 3.1 61
5 11,366,143 13,959,678 3.1 105
5 31,749,203 33,615,152 4.0 112
5 68,793,530 73,991,036 4.7 191
5 87,077,779 91,190,974 3.5 142
5 141,759,712 146,472,467 5.0 218
5 162,667,449 165,018,161 3.5 131
5 173,106,866 174,125,915 3.7 101
5 175,139,202 177,640,033 4.2 103
6 4,099,017 5,667,305 4.0 121
6 11,014,140 12,514,386 3.2 110
6 38,875,428 40,951,980 3.7 171
6 42,235,200 44,755,352 5.7 190
6 87,598,644 90,666,439 3.6 148
6 107,567,039 112,458,231 4.9 228
6 162,439,155 164,383,345 3.2 161
6 167,176,642 168,367,697 4.1 85
7 33,865,756 36,894,026 3.7 198
7 43,185,458 48,120,363 5.6 306
7 48,286,601 51,670,658 3.9 178
7 70,766,337 75,280,659 3.8 130
7 89,572,218 93,298,141 3.4 150
7 130,304,156 131,706,695 3.9 115
7 149,130,402 151,177,522 4.8 162
7 155,704,991 157,080,202 3.1 113
8 5,028,825 6,373,658 3.4 165
8 27,532,734 31,517,686 6.3 252
8 102,178,319 103,847,985 3.7 133
8 136,891,225 138,946,337 3.7 131
8 140,521,435 142,298,091 3.7 117
9 10,669,912 13,443,984 3.6 164
9 135,768,974 136,734,650 5.2 57
10 3,744,781 5,379,209 4.8 164
10 14,425,170 16,564,287 4.6 185
10 71,618,793 72,930,250 3.7 129
10 80,228,483 83,923,792 4.4 247
10 98,244,299 101,128,516 3.7 156
10 110,906,018 115,320,711 5.6 262
10 118,536,733 120,166,413 3.8 116
10 121,726,689 123,734,561 4.3 155
11 25,908,493 30,053,506 3.0 213
11 36,144,454 40,468,187 4.0 200
11 132,542,237 134,396,557 3.9 163
12 3,875,013 4,785,913 3.3 84
12 10,786,354 12,353,864 3.9 105
12 16,176,805 19,705,474 3.6 205
12 100,161,334 103,659,106 4.8 245
12 105,118,911 107,509,328 3.2 121
12 125,942,429 126,753,627 3.1 76
12 126,904,680 127,797,029 4.8 113
12 130,152,802 132,264,318 3.6 102
13 24,241,894 26,084,887 4.6 120
13 27,258,487 28,442,686 3.0 93
13 33,738,523 36,164,591 3.4 160
13 91,889,819 93,770,996 3.1 118
14 20,139,161 20,900,952 5.1 79
14 22,814,772 24,650,499 4.0 129
14 68,495,011 72,756,697 5.8 245
14 85,847,419 88,806,870 3.7 156
14 96,655,642 97,814,793 3.1 83
14 100,712,834 105,032,574 6.7 193
15 25,687,195 27,349,932 4.3 56
15 31,974,814 34,017,744 4.2 106
15 34,555,057 36,484,075 3.6 139
15 38,162,554 43,801,038 3.0 190
15 56,595,870 58,912,130 3.7 130
15 63,444,687 66,503,830 5.3 161
15 89,729,803 90,800,552 3.6 125
15 91,709,055 92,639,833 3.6 104
16 226,983 1,315,264 4.0 57
16 20,044,320 22,845,075 3.8 94
16 48,046,668 49,781,877 3.4 120
16 51,690,305 53,311,555 4.2 118
16 77,684,171 79,717,567 6.4 176
16 82,182,977 82,958,351 3.4 132
16 84,647,031 85,872,177 4.4 183
17 2,953,235 4,636,312 4.0 113
17 5,506,813 6,513,091 3.2 111
17 9,547,055 11,185,824 6.0 146
17 13,913,856 14,795,394 4.9 105
17 68,436,446 69,456,606 4.3 110
17 70,449,446 72,458,439 3.7 114
17 73,093,275 74,015,122 3.2 83
18 3,370,115 4,663,119 4.6 114
18 4,742,816 6,116,366 5.2 128
18 8,610,323 9,859,011 4.0 111
18 10,416,536 11,639,014 3.5 95
18 13,175,734 17,931,784 3.7 110
18 55,604,014 57,325,739 3.2 105
18 60,019,202 62,009,085 3.2 100
18 68,059,650 70,227,547 6.7 208
19 677,482 3,594,093 11.6 198
19 5,225,384 6,596,178 3.1 90
19 7,827,623 9,779,229 5.9 141
19 38,382,536 39,990,801 3.4 91
19 58,036,513 58,808,320 3.8 81
19 59,801,695 60,714,424 3.2 89
19 61,116,899 62,559,411 3.7 135
20 4,364,301 5,190,831 3.0 63
20 14,636,519 16,723,094 4.8 182
20 41,605,526 43,129,176 3.2 95
20 53,973,735 55,600,145 5.1 150
20 56,912,528 58,403,978 5.0 110
20 59,404,579 61,249,931 6.4 141
21 15,161,808 16,580,023 3.3 71
21 17,657,492 19,055,320 4.2 104
21 35,392,444 36,723,266 3.5 91
21 39,352,349 40,735,155 3.9 128
21 41,384,432 42,109,550 4.0 86
21 45,478,846 46,846,083 3.1 73
22 19,661,556 21,608,593 4.3 66
22 23,650,371 25,045,923 4.2 100
22 33,622,292 35,840,018 7.0 156
22 48,071,244 49,410,934 3.4 96
Largest segment = 11.6 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 624.3 cM
149 matching segments

157408 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.02839 seconds.

[Chaos One]

Well, be happy. At least you have something near 80. Imagine that, when very mixed, things can get somewhat weird...

[Stefanos.tasidis]

https://i.imgur.com/Da24zbM.png

My cousin 100% Pontic Greek.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

https://i.imgur.com/X8R59cZ.png

Y'all getting 90 scores is interesting.

[Scandal]

I wonder why all these maps plot me closer to the Netherlands and Northern Germany than Scotland or Ireland (considering my British Isles and Scandinavian ancestry). Germanic influence of the Anglo-Saxons?

You're a mix of the two populations. Your scandi ancestry makes you plot east of British Isles. A nigerian-european mulatto would plot close to Somalis instead of Nigerians or Europeans.

[Nassbean]

https://i.imgur.com/WJiLRzF.png