Classify Two Irish Traveller Brothers

[Grace O'Malley]

They might be a bit young but most likely Brunns. Paddy and Liam Doran from Kildare they are 16 and 17.

http://i65.tinypic.com/8z2qvc.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/2hx8uqb.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/efo41t.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/do9dog.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/jb37zn.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/52b8rn.jpg

[Tauromachos]

Celtic as fuck

[Odin]

Brünns.

[Schipperman]

Brünns.

No they're not.
Just look their foreheads and nasal bridges. Then, take a look at Coon's Brünn plate.

http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/Coon%20Plate%204.jpg

[Schipperman]

depigmented negroid + mongoloid -> chav-oid

[Kinslayer]

Celtic as fuck

Where?

[Grace O'Malley]

Irish Travellers are quite an interesting people and have separated a bit from the mainstream Irish population. They split from the Irish people approximately during the 1600s. They are completely descended from Irish though but have remained genetically isolated for a few centuries. They also found subtle genetic differences between speakers of Cant and speakers of Gammon (2 Irish Traveller languages).

It is possible the origin of the Traveller population occurred because of the Plantations as they appear to have taken to the road around this time.



The emergence of Irish Travellers as a distinct group occurred long before the Great Famine, a genetic analysis shows.

The study also indicates that while Travellers originally descended from the general Irish population, they are now very distinct from it.

DNA analysis allowed the researchers to track when and how quickly Travellers arose. This occurred between eight and 14 generations ago, with the best fit suggesting 12 generations or 360 years ago, said Prof Gianpiero Cavalleri, who conducted the study with colleagues at the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland and the University of Edinburgh.

The 12 generations would push the emergence of Travellers back to 1657. This significantly predates the Great Famine of 1845-52, an event long thought to have caused the formation of a migratory community that became the Travellers.

The research suggests that Traveller origins may in fact date as far back as 420 years to 1597. The Plantation of Ulster began around that time, with native Irish displaced from the land, perhaps to form a nomadic population.


The researchers did not try to connect the emergence of Travellers with any one historical event. “We tried to avoid speculating. You could point to Cromwellian times but it is speculation,” Prof Gianpiero said.


One cluster is associated with the “Rathkeale group” of Travellers. Two other clusters are linked to whether the Traveller speaks the Cant or Gammon dialects of the Traveller language Shelta.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/travellers-as-genetically-different-from-settled-irish-as-spanish-1.2969515

Here's the genetic study.

http://i63.tinypic.com/jr2p1h.jpg

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep42187

[Sandman]

Surprisingly East-Baltid. They have clear Mongoloid traits. Brunns do not have mongoloidal traits. They easily pass in Russia.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Irish Travellers are quite an interesting people and have separated a bit from the mainstream Irish population.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?148538-Are-Gypsies-considered-White-in-the-UK-and-Ireland&p=5030173#post5030173

[Jack_vorobey]

Surprisingly East-Baltid. They have clear Mongoloid traits. Brunns do not have mongoloidal traits. They easily pass in Russia.
Yeah, not as ethnic russians though.

[Grace O'Malley]

Surprisingly East-Baltid. They have clear Mongoloid traits. Brunns do not have mongoloidal traits. They easily pass in Russia.

I personally have a pull to East European. More Polish though than Russian. I would love to have Russian though as I am really fascinated by Russian history. My daughter is as well. I believe it is an ancient affinity until proven otherwise. Using mtdna I have a 1 step match to someone in the Russian Federation but also a Norwegian and Swedish pull. It could be those pesky Vikings and their practices of kidnapping Irish women. Very interesting nevertheless.

[magyar_lány]

They are very Mongoloid. Poor boys look so depressed. :(

[Albannach]

It's interesting that some people in the isles do seem to have a pseudo-mongoloid look to them, it is a trait that I have picked up on in Scotland as well as Ireland.

They remind me a lot of the Scottish model Connor Newell who also has a kind of mongoloid look to him, around the eyes at least .

https://i.imgur.com/hbbwRfZ.jpg

[♥ Lily ♥]

It's interesting that some people in the isles do seem to have a pseudo-mongoloid look to them, it is a trait that I have picked up on in Scotland as well as Ireland.

They remind me a lot of the Scottish model Connor Newell who also has a kind of mongoloid look to him, around the eyes at least .

https://i.imgur.com/hbbwRfZ.jpg


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?156010-Does-this-British-female-who-is-described-as-caucasoid-look-more-English-or-Chinese

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?163893-Classify-Model-of-British-and-Malaysian-Descent

[Graham]

Has the "we'll look after your car" for a small fee, look.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Too young for classifications but is some Nordid-Brünn/Lappoid. The pseudo-mongolid strains are due infantilization/borealization, but the eye sets are deep enough to make them CM derivatives. At last they look albine blacks, wide nose and something prognathics.

[Grace O'Malley]

They are very Mongoloid. Poor boys look so depressed. :(

They are models so more to do with the photographer than anything else. I'm sure they are just normal teenage boys. :)

[magyar_lány]

They are models so more to do with the photographer than anything else. I'm sure they are just normal teenage boys. :)

I didn't know they are models. :)

[Odin]

Just look their foreheads and nasal bridges. Then, take a look at Coon's Brünn plate.

Dude, they are kids, you can't compare them with old men in those plates.:picard1:

[Schipperman]

Dude, they are kids, you can't compare them with old men in those plates.:picard1:

Stil, you're totally delusional, kid.

You're mixing up, like most people here, the brünn phenotype, which is scandinavian, with the" irish brünn", his craniometrical look-alike.
They're just both paleolithic phenotypes, but that's basicaly all they have in common.

Besides, if you can't see the differences between the guys on plates and the boys, you should stop classifying, you'll save everyones' time.


And if you wanna see an example of a genuine brunn, there's one on your banner.

[Aren]

They don't look mongoloid at all. Just borealized northern euros.

[Odin]

Besides, if you can't see the differences between the guys on plates and the boys, you should stop classifying, you'll save everyones' time.

How about you man up and address me via your real nick instead of hiding behind some sockpuppet account?:rolleyes:

[Schipperman]

How about you man up and address me via your real nick instead of hiding behind some sockpuppet account?:rolleyes:

I've had many, I wasn't around for a long time. And you're too recent, as a member, for me to remember you.

Still, what I said is correct.

[Odin]

Still, what I said is correct.

That's your opinion. I don't agree, as simple as that.

[Schipperman]

That's your opinion. I don't agree, as simple as that.


Have you read Coon? I think not. I'm just quoting him, if you read it, you'll see by yourself:

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate04.htm