Finally my subclade is confirmed! R1a-YP358*

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Your final haplogroup is R1a-YP358*
All known downstream branches have been confirmed negative.
Quick results summary:
R1a Superclade Panel processing
Z93 G-
L664 G+
R1a-L664 Panel processing
S2894 G-
S2869 C+
YP358 G+
YP360 C-
YP6089 G-
YP430 C-
Y23255 C-
YP5006 C-

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does anyone know more about this subclade?

[Leto]

I think to the British Isles R1a came with Vikings, so logically your subclade must be Scandinavian. I don't know much about subclades though.

R1a is virtually composed only of the Z284 subclade in Scandinavia, which is only found in single sample of a Slovenian in Eastern Europe, where the main subclade is Z282 (Z280 and M458) and there is a negligible representation of Z93 in each region other than Turkey.[39] The West Slavs and Hungarians are characterized by a high frequency of the subclade M458 and a low Z92, a subclade of Z280. Hundreds of samples of each Slovenians, and Czechs lack the Z92 subclade of Z280, while Poles, Slovaks, Croats and Hungarians only show a very low frequency of Z92.[39] The Balts, East Slavs, Serbs, Macedonians, Bulgarians and Romanians demonstrate a ratio Z280>M458 and a high, up to a prevailing share of Z92.[39] Balts and East Slavs have the same subclades and similar frequencies in a more detailed phylogeny of the subclades.

[Leto]

Anyway, you're just a British guy, don't know why you're so confused. As far as I remember, on GEDmatch you were pretty much British.

[Kelmendasi]

I think to the British Isles R1a came with Vikings, so logically your subclade must be Scandinavian. I don't know much about subclades though.
His clade isn't from the Norsemen/Vikings as he isn't Z284. He seems to belong to a clade linked to Germanic(Probably Frisian or Anglo-Saxon) migration from west Germany/Netherlands

[Leto]

His clade isn't from the Norsemen/Vikings as he isn't Z284. He seems to belong to a clade linked to Germanic(Probably Frisian or Anglo-Saxon) migration from west Germany/Netherlands
The Norsemen were Germanic as well. Either way, Britain has no Eastern Euro subclades.

[Kelmendasi]

The Norsemen were Germanic as well. Either way, Britain has no Eastern Euro subclades.
Yh I know but his clade doesn't seem to be linked to their expansion but rather to the expansions by the Frisians, Saxons and Angles

[Leto]

In a week or two I'll learn my Y haplo, but only the basic clade (Y-12), no further details. Maybe some free website will predict a more detailed subclade though.

[Ülev]

L664


R1a-L664 is essentially Northwest European, found chiefly in West Germany, the Low Countries and the British Isles.

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

look at R1a-L664-tree on Eupedia


Eupedia does not say so much about it

[Ülev]

http://dna-academy.ru/wp-content/uploads/L664-Europe-contour.jpg

North - West clade (L664)

http://dna-academy.ru/haplomaps-r1a-subclades/

[Dick]

Yh I know but his clade doesn't seem to be linked to their expansion but rather to the expansions by the Frisians, Saxons and Angles

probably Jutes.



The Jutes (/dʒuːts/), Iuti, or Iutæ were a Germanic people. According to Bede,[1] the Jutes were one of the three most powerful Germanic peoples of their time in the Nordic Iron Age,[2][3] the other two being the Saxons and the Angles.[4][5]

The Jutes are believed to have originated from the Jutland Peninsula (called Iutum in Latin) and part of the North Frisian coast. In present times, the Jutlandic Peninsula consists of the mainland of Denmark and Southern Schleswig in Germany. North Frisia is also part of Germany.

The Jutes invaded and settled in southern Britain in the late 4th century during the Age of Migrations, as part of a larger wave of Germanic settlement in the British Isles.

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L664


R1a-L664 is essentially Northwest European, found chiefly in West Germany, the Low Countries and the British Isles.

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

look at R1a-L664-tree on Eupedia


Eupedia does not say so much about it

L664 is the least known about sublcade from R1a, there is not a lot of information around on it

[Aren]

R1a-L664 is present all over Northwestern Europe. I think somewhat higher in the Netherlands than in Scandinavia.

[Leto]

L664 is the least known about sublcade from R1a, there is not a lot of information around on it
Join the IE group, bro. :)

[Norb]

R1a-L664 is present all over Northwestern Europe. I think somewhat higher in the Netherlands than in Scandinavia.

some information I have:

This subclade YP358 was formed about 800 BC and around 100AD it split into a few branches.
Only 5-10% of the members of R1a-L664 belong to this Subclade YP358.
In the US there is a large Tucker surname group, who all belong to this Subclade YP358 and are all descendants of an early immigrant to Virginia.

R1a-L664 is only found in NW-Europe in the area around the North Sea, while the majority of haplogroup R1a is found in Middle/Eastern Europe and Western Asia.
Only far less then 1% of the total population in this area around the North Sea belongs to R1a-L664.

All members of YP358 have the rare mutation DYS448=null.
This is related to a very rare palindromic mutation which occurred at least 2000 years ago, by which a large section of base-pairs on the y-chromosome is deleted.
Apparently this deleted section doesn't contain any relevant genes, because otherwise this mutation could not survive for so long.

[Kelmendasi]

some information I have:

This subclade YP358 was formed about 800 BC and around 100AD it split into a few branches.
Only 5-10% of the members of R1a-L664 belong to this Subclade YP358.
In the US there is a large Tucker surname group, who all belong to this Subclade YP358 and are all descendants of an early immigrant to Virginia.

R1a-L664 is only found in NW-Europe in the area around the North Sea, while the majority of haplogroup R1a is found in Middle/Eastern Europe and Western Asia.
Only far less then 1% of the total population in this area around the North Sea belongs to R1a-L664.

All members of YP358 have the rare mutation DYS448=null.
This is related to a very rare palindromic mutation which occurred at least 2000 years ago, by which a large section of base-pairs on the y-chromosome is deleted.
Apparently this deleted section doesn't contain any relevant genes, because otherwise this mutation could not survive for so long.
Yh iirc L664 reaches only 0.2-0.8% on average

[Ayetooey]

Bump.