Bulgarians from throughout the country - where do they fit?

[The Blade]

Multiple choice poll. Vote for all options you think they could pass.
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[user_]

Serbia.

[Kivan]

They look diverse, but as a whole i would say Serbia or Romania.

[The Blade]

Serbia.
I added a poll. Would you vote?

[Tommie]

Voted.

[Odin]

Balkans.

[The Blade]

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[MysteriousWays]

Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia best choice, followed by Romania. Slovakia/Czech Republic/Hungary third, followed by Kosovo/Albania. Rankings go down from there IMO.

[Vojnik]

I think first Romania, then Serbia, then Macedonia and Greece equally.

[Sikeliot]

All Balkan countries and West Slavic.

[The Blade]

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[The Blade]

I think first Romania, then Serbia, then Macedonia and Greece equally.
There is no "Macedonia" option (since you ask) because nowadays "Macedonians" are all either of Bulgarian, or Albanian, or Greek descent.
Ancient Macedonians were Greek people.
There is a good reason why your state is called FYROM.

[Jana]

Ukraine I think. They look very eastern from my perspective. Romania / Moldova probably too.

[Tooting Carmen]

Mostly in other Balkan Slavic countries and Romania (unsurprisingly). The more Med ones pass well in Greek, and the more Northern/Slavic-looking ones pass well in Ukraine.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Romania, Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia and Herzegovina/Slovenia/Montenegro followed by Russia/Ukraine/Belarus/Moldova.

[Jana]

Croatia

They would not be typical here.

[catgeorge]

They would not pass in Greece

[Vojnik]

There is no "Macedonia" option (since you ask) because nowadays "Macedonians" are all either of Bulgarian, or Albanian, or Greek descent.
Ancient Macedonians were Greek people.
There is a good reason why your state is called FYROM.

Incorrect. All of it.

[somebody]

Romania (Wallachia).

[Wrong]

There's unnatural lighting in many of the pictures.

[oszkar07]

Romania and Macedonia,\
to lesser degree Serbia

[alexmegas777]

Balkans

[The Blade]

Incorrect. All of it.
Diagnosis: Butthurt.

[The Blade]

There's unnatural lighting in many of the pictures.
Did you vote?

[Sp_loa]

Most fit well in most of Eastern Europe- including Moldova and Ukraine.

[Vojnik]

Diagnosis: Butthurt.

You wish.

[The Blade]

Most fit well in most of Eastern Europe- including Moldova and Ukraine.
Vote, please.

[Sp_loa]

Vote, please.

But.. I did vote...

[The Blade]

But.. I did vote...
Ok. Thanks a lot, man!
Edit: Your vote now appeared.

[QUICAS]

I chosed a lot of countries, because I think they pass from Hungary to Greece.

[The Blade]

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[Tauromachos]

Very mixed

A few can pass as Greeks

The majority of people in these pictures does not look Greek at all

[The Blade]

Very mixed

A few can pass as Greeks

The majority of people in these pictures does not look Greek at all
Where do you think they could fit? Vote, please.

[Tauromachos]

Where do you think they could fit? Vote, please.

Other Slavic countries,Moldova and then Romania"to some extend"

I think they pass well among Slavic people at the Northern Black Sea coast"Ukraine and Southern Russia"

Voted

[ooops]

Romania

[Cristiano viejo]

Individually many pass in Spain. Collectively they are very different than Spaniards.

This woman of the middle is very similar to one of my coworkers. Incredibily similar

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[Vožd]

Romania and Ukraine best fit.
But many of them can also pass in all south Slavic states.

[Bosniensis]

They belong to us.

Tito wanted to annex Bulgaria in Greater Yugoslavia.

[Ülev]

Slovakia/Poland/Czech Republic/Hungary/Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia and Herzegovina/Slovenia/Montenegro

[Sekkmer]

Romania, Moldova, Macedonia and Ukraine

[The Blade]

bump

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Mainly ex-yugo countries, together with Greece and Romania. Also some of them easily could pass in Northern Italy.

[Nurzat]

best fit: Romania

then: Yugoslavia and eastcentral Europe (Slovakia, Hungary, West Ukraine)

[The Blade]

Had more photos in this thread (some are gone).
Anyway, I am adding some more:
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[The Blade]

More photos on page 5.

[The Blade]

Adding more photos:
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[ixulescu]

Eastern Serbia and Romania.

[Dna8]

Balkans, Central Europe

Good looking people, especially the women

[The Blade]

Balkans, Central Europe

Good looking people, especially the women
Thank you!

[Dna8]

I worked for a Bulgarian man once.. he spoke Serbian on account of having worked in Belgrade for years.. but even when he and his family talked amongst themselves, I could follow without any problem..

Likewise, watching the Serbian film Juzni Vetar, I didn't really need subtitles for the Bulgarian dialogue.. I imagine understanding Bulgarian would be even more of a piece of cake for someone who grew up in Serbia

[pelikarski]

I worked for a Bulgarian man once.. he spoke Serbian on account of having worked in Belgrade for years.. but even when he and his family talked amongst themselves, I could follow without any problem..

Likewise, watching the Serbian film Juzni Vetar, I didn't really need subtitles for the Bulgarian dialogue.. I imagine understanding Bulgarian would be even more of a piece of cake for someone who grew up in Serbia

What is so popular about this cover song?

[Dna8]

What is so popular about this cover song?

I really like the musical tune, most of all

[Mr.G]

1.Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia and Herzegovina/Slovenia/Montenegro
2.Romania
3.Slovakia/Poland/Czech Republic/Hungary
4.Russia/Ukraine/Belarus/Moldova
5.Greece
6.Kosovo/Albania

That's what I'm seeing as best fits, I could flip around the order a bit I'm torn. Many here reminded me of pictures I had seen of Szekely Hungarians.

[The Blade]

I worked for a Bulgarian man once.. he spoke Serbian on account of having worked in Belgrade for years.. but even when he and his family talked amongst themselves, I could follow without any problem..

Likewise, watching the Serbian film Juzni Vetar, I didn't really need subtitles for the Bulgarian dialogue.. I imagine understanding Bulgarian would be even more of a piece of cake for someone who grew up in Serbia
I understand Serbian pretty easily, too. Funnily there is an accent/dialect in my country (in the Rhodope mountains) that's more like Russian and is harder for me to understand than Serbian language is.

Знао сам една лeпа девоjкa чији отац jе серб и чија мајка jе бугарка. Девоjка jе веома паметна и лепа. Добра комбинација jе постигнута. :thumb001:

[The Blade]

1.Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia and Herzegovina/Slovenia/Montenegro
2.Romania
3.Slovakia/Poland/Czech Republic/Hungary
4.Russia/Ukraine/Belarus/Moldova
5.Greece
6.Kosovo/Albania

That's what I'm seeing as best fits, I could flip around the order a bit I'm torn. Many here reminded me of pictures I had seen of Szekely Hungarians.
Thanks a lot for your contribution, my friend!

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

ukraine,greece,romania best fit

[The Blade]

ukraine,greece,romania best fit
Thank you! Vote, please.

[Davy Jones's Locker]

Based on these pictures I think Carleton Coon was basically correct in his description of this ethnic group.

[The Blade]

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[Hungarian_master]

Pontid, Dinarid, Gorid, Atlanto Med, Borreby, Norid and Baltid.

Hungary, Romania, Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia.

[Tauromachos]

I would say a mix of Serbia and Romania

For some of them look realy Serbian but also think there people among them who are not typicall for Serbia

[Kamal900]

Well, mostly in South-Eastern and Central European regions.

[Vožd]

Southeast Europe.

[Abriekman]

I always thought Bulgarians are usually dark and similar to Western Asians phenotypically, my Bulgarian ancestors were at least. My Polish grandmother said my partially Bulgarian grandfather has Arab-like or Turkish-like features i thought it was their average phenotype

[The Blade]

I always thought Bulgarians are usually dark and similar to Western Asians phenotypically, my Bulgarian ancestors were at least. My Polish grandmother said my partially Bulgarian grandfather has Arab-like or Turkish-like features i thought it was their average phenotype
We are absolutely not Arab-like (I can only think of one public figure named Christian Talev who looks like that, while tens of thousands don't; for 29 years of living here I have only met one person resembling Talev).
Bulgarians, like most Balkanites, represent a more Mediterranean admixed version of Central Europeans.
Here is how we plot genetically (pity Serbia and Romania weren't tested also but still other results are quite representative):
- Hungary - 1,10 (closest result of states tested; usually Bulgarians score as closest to Romanians, Hungarians and Serbs)
- Switzerland - 1,13
- Austria - 1,14
- Southern Germany - 1,19
- Czech Republic - 1,21
- France - 1,22
- Poland - 1,29
- Spain - 1,30
- Northern Germany - 1,32
- Northern Italy - 1,32
- Southern Italy - 1,38
- Sweden - 1,47
- Russia - 1,53
- Estonia - 1,70
- Lithuania - 1,73
- Latvia - 1,86
- Finns from Helsinki - 2,19
- Finns from Kuusamo - 2,91
Bulgarians' genetic distance to people of Northern and Western European ancestry from Utah is 1,29 according to the same study.
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Europe

[Abriekman]

We are absolutely not Arab-like (I can only think of one public figure named Christian Talev who looks like that, while tens of thousands don't; for 29 years of living here I have only met one person resembling Talev).
Bulgarians, like most Balkanites, represent a more Mediterranean admixed version of Central Europeans.
Here is how we plot genetically (pity Serbia and Romania weren't tested also but still other results are quite representative):
- Hungary - 1,10 (closest result of states tested; usually Bulgarians score as closest to Romanians, Hungarians and Serbs)
- Switzerland - 1,13
- Austria - 1,14
- Southern Germany - 1,19
- Czech Republic - 1,21
- France - 1,22
- Poland - 1,29
- Spain - 1,30
- Northern Germany - 1,32
- Northern Italy - 1,32
- Southern Italy - 1,38
- Sweden - 1,47
- Russia - 1,53
- Estonia - 1,70
- Lithuania - 1,73
- Latvia - 1,86
- Finns from Helsinki - 2,19
- Finns from Kuusamo - 2,91
Bulgarians' genetic distance to people of Northern and Western European ancestry from Utah is 1,29 according to the same study.
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Europe

That means this phenotype is not from Bulgarian side. I see pictures and people in Bulgaria are light and some have Slavic features

[The Blade]

That means this phenotype is not from Bulgarian side. I see pictures and people in Bulgaria are light and some have Slavic features
Most likely. As you can see from source I posted, we are genetically nearly equidistant to Spaniards and Poles; also almost equally removed from Czechs and the French.

[Psycho]

FYROM, Romania, Serbia, northern Greece, Tatarstan, Moldova