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Bosniensis
03-28-2018, 03:36 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/422563-saudi-wahhabism-western-countries/

The Saudi-funded spread of Wahhabism began as a result of Western countries asking Riyadh to help counter the Soviet Union during the Cold War, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told the Washington Post.
Speaking to the paper, bin Salman said that Saudi Arabia's Western allies urged the country to invest in mosques and madrassas overseas during the Cold War, in an effort to prevent encroachment in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union.

Demonization of Islam begun in early 1970 by funding supporting radicalism then expanded exponentially after staged 9/11 attack.

Petros Houhoulis
05-18-2018, 01:25 PM
Yes, it is well known that Tamerlane was a Muslim who got radicalized by Saudi Arabia and killed ~17 million people for Allah afterwards:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur


To legitimize his conquests, Timur relied on Islamic symbols and language, referred to himself as the "Sword of Islam", and patronized educational and religious institutions. He converted nearly all the Borjigin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borjigin) leaders to Islam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam) during his lifetime. Timur decisively defeated the Christian Knights Hospitaller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Hospitaller) at the Siege of Smyrna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Smyrna), styling himself a ghazi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazi_(warrior)).[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur#cite_note-marozzi-2004-10):91 By the end of his reign, Timur had gained complete control over all the remnants of the Chagatai Khanate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagatai_Khanate), the Ilkhanate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilkhanate), and the Golden Horde (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Horde), and even attempted to restore the Yuan dynasty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan_dynasty) in China.
Timur's armies were inclusively multi-ethnic and were feared throughout Asia, Africa, and Europe,[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur#cite_note-marozzi-2004-10) sizable parts of which his campaigns laid to waste.[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur#cite_note-11) Scholars estimate that his military campaigns caused the deaths of 17 million people, amounting to about 5% of the world population (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_estimates) at the time.[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur#cite_note-12)[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur#cite_note-13)

Pigfood like yourselves cannot be demonized from outsiders. Your brain is mashed up beyond recognition...

Gold-Shekel
05-18-2018, 01:39 PM
I think the demonization of Islam came at the end of the 1970's when Iran's Islamic revolution happened. You can see that the seccular Saddam was supported by both Soviets and the West but also by Saudis in the Irak-Iran war. When Communism fell and the strategy of tension Europe had adopted during the cold war (various communist terrorist groups commiting attacks) couldn't logically be kept without the commies, so Islamists were made the main enemy and Saudis happily took the role of main center of influence for islamists.

Al-Meksiki
05-19-2018, 01:01 AM
Yes, it is well known that Tamerlane was a Muslim who got radicalized by Saudi Arabia and killed ~17 million people for Allah afterwards:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur



Pigfood like yourselves cannot be demonized from outsiders. Your brain is mashed up beyond recognition...

Timur was a hero who conquered like his ancesor Temujin. He wasn't some terrorist, he was a mighty warrior.

Div1
05-19-2018, 03:52 AM
Its very sad to see how far things have gone, when the US literally is allied to a state that promoted the same terrorism that they are supposedly against. I guess its sorta like a positive feedback loop: Launch a "War on terrorism" to rally support, allow these same terrorists (Tsarnaevs for instance why did US intelligence just casually allow them continue their attack on people even though the Russian government warned them YEARS ago) to cause mass terror in your population, and then reap the rewards of a populace constantly bombarded with gloom and doom media.

Really makes you think huh?

Petros Houhoulis
06-11-2018, 03:20 PM
Timur was a hero who conquered like his ancesor Temujin. He wasn't some terrorist, he was a mighty warrior.

Yeah, sure. A "mighty warrior" who left ~17 million human corpses behind, mostly civilians - and he wasn't even technologically advanced. Just imagine what he could do if he led Germany in WWII!!!

Alcuin52
06-18-2018, 10:43 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/422563-saudi-wahhabism-western-countries/

The Saudi-funded spread of Wahhabism began as a result of Western countries asking Riyadh to help counter the Soviet Union during the Cold War, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told the Washington Post.
Speaking to the paper, bin Salman said that Saudi Arabia's Western allies urged the country to invest in mosques and madrassas overseas during the Cold War, in an effort to prevent encroachment in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union.

Demonization of Islam begun in early 1970 by funding supporting radicalism then expanded exponentially after staged 9/11 attack

You're quite right in claiming that neo-liberals in Western governments have attempted to 'manage' Islamists for their own gain.

However, you ignore the following facts:

a) People throughout the Islamic world vote for Islamist political parties
b) People throughout the Islamic world are generally very religious
c) People throughout the Islamic world adhere to a faith that has hostility to non-adherents as a central, founding tenet

You also seem to believe that the Western world was ignorant of Islam and its history prior to 1970, despite the fact its attempted conquests of Europe and its subjugation of Europeans' religious kin in West Asia and North Africa had been a source of consternation, fear and anger for 1,300 years before that.

Are you seriously trying to convince us that Muslims aren't really Muslim? That their faith doesn't extend beyond a few family celebrations when it's Ramadan/Eid? That they don't read religious texts that tell them to slaughter anyone who questions whether their Prophet rode into Heaven on a flying donkey?