Information on E-Z16242

[Milionki]

Do you happen to know anything about E-Z16242 by any chance?

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z16242/

[Anglojew]

Basically you're a n...black

https://aleximreh.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/hg-e.gif

You'll now be able to apply for the following scholarships:


https://www.fastweb.com/directory/scholarships-for-african-american-students

[Anglojew]

But in all seriousness there's some info here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M96

Are you MENA?

[Kelmendasi]

E-Z16242 is a downstream of E-V13 and is part of the Z5018 clade which is usually found in the Balkans like most E-V13 clades. E-Z16242 and it's downstreams are usually found among the English although at low TMRCAs, so I think that it arrived among the English via Roman troops of Balkan origin or something like that.

[Milionki]

E-Z16242 is a downstream of E-V13 and is part of the Z5018 clade which is usually found in the Balkans like most E-V13 clades. E-Z16242 and it's downstreams are usually found among the English although at low TMRCAs, so I think that it arrived among the English via Roman troops of Balkan origin or something like that.

thank you. so I'm descendant of a roman man?

[Kelmendasi]

thank you. so I'm descendant of a roman man?
Assuming that you are of English or British descent, you are possibly descended from the Balkan auxiliary troops within the Roman army who were of Illyrian or Daco-Thracian origin usually from the Dardania or Moesia region that were stationed in the British isles. http://www.jogg.info/pages/32/bird.htm

[vxr400]

Do you happen to know anything about E-Z16242 by any chance?

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z16242/

I am one of the (so-far) rare E-Z16242+, whose earliest-known Y-ancestor came from England. On the YFull tree it looks like all except one earlier 1000 Genomes Project kit came from England, but as another poster pointed out these are all from a single surname ancestry with TMRCA 100-500 years.

In terms of unique E-Z16242+ families that I can see on the E-M35 Project and the 1 earlier 1000 Genomes Project on YFull, there are 2 unique surname Y-ancestry kits who trace their earliest-known Y-ancestor to Portugal (Roman Province of Hispania), and even possibly a 3rd whose earliest-known Y-ancestor is not stated, and just the 1 Y-ancestry (mine) from England (Roman Province of Britannia).

I have been waiting to see if any E-Z16242+ would appear with earliest-known Y-ancestor somewhere in the Balkans (Moesia Superior, Moesia Inferior, Macedonia, Greece, Illyria, etc. at the time of the Roman Empire; now Bulgaria, Serbia-Kosovo, Macedonia, Greece, Montenegro, Albania, etc.).

[Dick]

Assuming that you are of English or British descent, you are possibly descended from the Balkan auxiliary troops within the Roman army who were of Illyrian or Daco-Thracian origin usually from the Dardania or Moesia region that were stationed in the British isles. http://www.jogg.info/pages/32/bird.htm




I have been waiting to see if any E-Z16242+ would appear with earliest-known Y-ancestor somewhere in the Balkans (Moesia Superior, Moesia Inferior, Macedonia, Greece, Illyria, etc. at the time of the Roman Empire; now Bulgaria, Serbia-Kosovo, Macedonia, Greece, Montenegro, Albania, etc.).


Could be just from neolithic farmers.

[vxr400]

Could be just from neolithic farmers.

If Z16242 is eventually found in the Balkans, then my current ancestry-specific calibrated age for Z16242 (~39 years per Y-Elite SNP x 57 SNP or ~2,220 ybp or ~205 BCE) may have to be reconsidered and based on the new number of unique SNPs vs. the Balkan kit.

[Dick]

If Z16242 is eventually found in the Balkans, then my current ancestry-specific calibrated age for Z16242 (~39 years per Y-Elite SNP x 57 SNP or ~2,220 ybp or ~205 BCE) may have to be reconsidered and based on the new number of unique SNPs vs. the Balkan kit.

Are you on Yfull? It seems to be common in England (the Puerto Rican could have an English Or American paternal ancestor)
Haplogroup E was probably the major role player for spreading farming all over Europe.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z16242/

[vxr400]

Are you on Yfull? It seems to be common in England (the Puerto Rican could have an English Or American paternal ancestor)
Haplogroup E was probably the major role player for spreading farming all over Europe.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z16242/

Yes; I'm on YFull (YF05423 = my Y-Elite 2.0 kit, YF02189 = my Y-Elite 1.0 kit, YF01646 = my Big Y kit; YF05422 is a separate same-surname Y-Elite 2.0 kit with a genealogically-known TMRCA average 453 years and YF05421 is another separate same-surname Y-Elite 2.0 kit with a genealogically-known TMRCA average 475 years), and I am currently the online administrator for the YFull E-V13 group.

There is so little Z16242 showing up that it is admittedly premature to draw conclusions, but it seemed an intriguing possibility, given the rough Y-Elite vs. 1000 Genomes Project (YFull kit HG01107) TMRCA estimate of ~2,220 ybp or ~205 BCE (there are too many missing calls in the 1000 Genomes Project kit to be certain of this; it is even possible the TMRCA could be even more recent than ~2,220 ybp), that possibly a common ancestor E-Z5018 (which is abundant in the Balkans, especially in the very-abundant form E-Z5018, E-S2979) was deployed to the former Hispania when Rome invaded in ~218 BCE or so, and so E-Z16242 possibly emerged later in the soon-to-be Roman Province of Hispania. Then possibly my (even more) relatively rare Y-ancestral descent from the current Iberian majority came about when one of my Y-ancestors was deployed to Britannia sometime after Rome invaded there in 43 CE...(and then, since my England E-Z16242 seems to be so rare, what if the unit my Y-ancestor was sent to Britannia was either part of, or in an auxiliary unit attached to, Legio IX Hispana, which was annihilated with few if any survivors during their brief, disastrous encounter with the Boudiccan revolt of ~60-61 CE [though Legio IX was later reconstituted with a new Y-gene pool largely from what is now Germany] not far to the north of the soon-to-be-destroyed retirement colony at Camulodunum; now Colchester, Essex which in turn is about 20 miles south of Felsham, Suffolk where my earliest known Y-ancestor lived, etc., etc., etc.)