What is Northern Albanian men traditional head covering origin?

[Moje ime]

Why northern Albanian traditional dressing includes something basically the same as turbans that Beduines or Berbers from Northern Africa have? It is not seen anywhere in Europe outside of Albania.

Albanian

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/ALBANIADA_sporte_tradicionale_shqiptare_%284%29.jp g

Beduine, Berber

http://www.travel-pictures-gallery.com/images/mauritania/mauritania-0021.jpg

This is serious question so I would like to read serious answers if possible, thanks.

[Morlak]

Probably just Turkish influence

[Moje ime]

Probably just Turkish influence

Turks don't have these kind of turbans. This is turban usually seen in sandstorms areas.

[Mens-Sarda]

Turks don't have these kind of turbans. This is turban usually seen in sandstorms areas.

In the past they had them

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/bb/7b/03bb7b33e9eb3504b96afc61f7dffc03.jpg

[Moje ime]

In the past they had them



No, there is still no example with part of covering around neck.

I would like to read Albanian answers. Serious ones if possible.

[Tauromachos]

Why northern Albanian traditional dressing includes something basically the same as turbans that Beduines or Berbers from Northern Africa have? It is not seen anywhere in Europe outside of Albania.

Albanian

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/ALBANIADA_sporte_tradicionale_shqiptare_%284%29.jp g

Beduine, Berber

http://www.travel-pictures-gallery.com/images/mauritania/mauritania-0021.jpg

This is serious question so I would like to read serious answers if possible, thanks.

Don't know it looks either Arabian Beduin
African Tuarek
Or Indian Rajastani

[Kelmendasi]

Unsure about the origin, could be Turkish. But it's not used for sandstorms or shit like that, it was used as a burial shroud when the man wearing it died

[Kelmendasi]

No, there is still no example with part of covering around neck.

I would like to read Albanian answers. Serious ones if possible.
It most probably does come from Turkish influence or maybe Albanians picked it up when they were soldiers in the Ottoman army in countries that wore these turbans. You don't have to wear it covering the neck btw

[Moje ime]

Unsure about the origin, could be Turkish. But it's not used for sandstorms or shit like that, it was used as a burial shroud when the man wearing it died

Is is used by Muslim Albanians only or not?

[Lek]

Who cares if it's not seen anywhere else in Europe?

[Kelmendasi]

Is is used by Muslim Albanians only or not?
No, in most cases it was actually worn by the Catholic Ghegs but also the Muslim Ghegs. It was worn over the Qeleshe/Plis

[Moje ime]

Who cares if it's not seen anywhere else in Europe?

You?

[Lek]

You?

You?

[Moje ime]

You?

You!

Now serious answer please.

[Lek]

You!

Now serious answer please.

We came from Berberia

[Kelmendasi]

We came from Berberia
I thought it was Dagestan lol....

[Mens-Sarda]

No, there is still no example with part of covering around neck.

I would like to read Albanian answers. Serious ones if possible.

Just a supposition, Albania is a very mountainous area, in winter can be very cold, maybe they used to wear the turban is this way to cover their face during winter snow storms. In the same way Tuaregs use it to cover their faces during sand storms.

[Lek]

I thought it was Dagestan lol....

Anywhere as long as not Balkans :)

[Wrong]

So what, Crusaders wore them aswell. You don't see Arabs in Central or Northern Europe wearing them.

https://www.ecomodelismo.com/ECO_imgArt/ROME/ROME-90014.jpg

http://en.spbsouvenir.ru/d/740660/d/RM54-061_Holy_Land_Templar_Knight_with_turban,_XIII_Cen tury.jpg

[Kelmendasi]

Just a supposition, Albania is a very mountainous area, in winter can be very cold, maybe they used to wear the turban is this way to cover their face during winter snow storms. In the same way Tuaregs use it to cover their faces during sand storms.
This is a possibility

[HERK]

Original white Albanian dress (it is somehow similar to the Greeks) , Albanians that bordered the slavic peoples wore another dress which i will be showing below.
http://www.albanianhistory.net/1878_Blunt/AH1878_3cartwright_gr.jpg

Note that the dress in this pic is much more modern, the really early dresses were most probably much more simple.

Here is also a pic for the Northern part(on the right) excluding the Algerian veil ofc. You can also find these style of dresses on central europe too.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/62/8c/73628cbc15e1643ea145b07860825843.jpg

[Kelmendasi]

Original white Albanian dress (it is somehow similar to the Greeks) , Albanians that bordered the slavic peoples wore prety much the same national dress they do today but without the Plis/Qeleshe or the White Veil which definitely comes from Algeria.
[IMG]http://www.albanianhistory.net/1878_Blunt/AH1878_3cartwright_gr.jpg[/MG]

Note that the dress in this pic is much more modern, the really early dresses were most probably much more simple.

Here is also a pic for the Northern part(on the right) excluding the Algerian veil. You can also find these style of dresses on central europe too.
[IMG]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/62/8c/73628cbc15e1643ea145b07860825843.jpg[/IG]
Nah it wasn't really similar to the Greeks apart from the Jelek and Fustanella as we also wore the Tirq btw the guy in that pic you showed is wearing a Fez which is MENA , we always wore the Plis it is derived from Illyrians in us and was even worn by ancient Greeks, the veil is the only thing that possible is MENA in origin. You're obsessed with Algerians lol xD.

[HERK]

Nah it wasn't really similar to the Greeks apart from the Jelek and Fustanella as we also wore the Tirq btw the guy in that pic you showed is wearing a Fez which is MENA , we always wore the Plis it is derived from Illyrians in us and was even worn by ancient Greeks, the veil is the only thing that possible is MENA in origin. You're obsessed with Algerians lol xD.

I tried to find a picture without that hat but i couldn't, wearing hats in ancient europe wasnt a thing you do my friend, let alone a hat which takes so much time to make and makes you look like an extra terrestrial.

[Kelmendasi]

I tried to find a picture without that hat but i couldn't, wearing hats in ancient europe wasnt a thing you do my friend, let alone a hat which takes so much time to make and makes you look like an extra terrestrial.
O Shqipe, the Plis was worn by the Greeks this is a fact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qeleshe. Nigga u trolling

[Moje ime]

Just a supposition, Albania is a very mountainous area, in winter can be very cold, maybe they used to wear the turban is this way to cover their face during winter snow storms. In the same way Tuaregs use it to cover their faces during sand storms.

Montenegro is also very mountainous area but Montenegrin have traditional caps that look like this:

http://www.panacomp.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Crnogorska-narodna-nosnja-i-gusle_slika_O_33969397.jpg

and in cold weather it is covered with simple scarf like this ( example image is from one well known movie)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bmnpXdCHqBs/maxresdefault.jpg



so there are obviously other ways to cover from cold.

[Moje ime]

You can also find these style of dresses on central europe too.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/73/62/8c/73628cbc15e1643ea145b07860825843.jpg

Where exactly?

[Sean-Jobst]

What is the story and origin of the Qeleshe? I bought one in Krujë right before I walked up to Skanderbeg's castle and found it a good gesture to don it while visiting the castle of this great Albanian hero and this important historical/ethnographical site:

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[Trilecce]

Why northern Albanian traditional dressing includes something basically the same as turbans that Beduines or Berbers from Northern Africa have? It is not seen anywhere in Europe outside of Albania.

Albanian

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/ALBANIADA_sporte_tradicionale_shqiptare_%284%29.jp g

Beduine, Berber

http://www.travel-pictures-gallery.com/images/mauritania/mauritania-0021.jpg

This is serious question so I would like to read serious answers if possible, thanks.

Albanians in eastern and northern prokletije wear this. Its a shroud used for burials. All muslims are buried washed and naked in such a shroud. But albanians of this area believe it is very important that they carry their shroud with them incase they died unexpectedly. This may be a muslim tradition, but it has spilled over to our christian catholics also.

[Trilecce]

What is the story and origin of the Qeleshe? I bought one in Krujë right before I walked up to Skanderbeg's castle and found it a good gesture to don it while visiting the castle of this great Albanian hero and this important historical/ethnographical site:

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Its name is plis, qeleshe is a deformed variant worn by tosks. Plis is basically a modern pilos. Pilos was a hat that free men wore in ancient times so that they wouldnt be confused with unfree slaves. Odysseus is always portraid wearing a pilos.

All Albanian men in the north wore this hat as late as 1950's. It has waned off since then and today you will only see elderly men wearing it.

[Trilecce]

E ta shkerdheft nanen 'prokletije' ty.

Bonu bur dhe mos em shaj me pseudonym.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

https://img.memecdn.com/ancient-illyrian_o_5904249.jpg


xD

[Ujku]

Is it rare for people in the north wearing that ?

[Tauromachos]

https://img.memecdn.com/ancient-illyrian_o_5904249.jpg


xD

Looks like a depigmented version of Rajastan Gypsies

Even the instrument is similar"compare to man at 11:06" in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms1hw6WRXR8

[Moje ime]

Something interesting about this dressing. So called "Rugovo sword dance" that goes with this dressing was included in ethnic dances from Kosovo as Albanian folk dance in SFR Yugoslavia.
(from Tito times).

This is quote:

"The Warrior dance of Rugovo (Albanian: Vallja me shpata e Rugovës, Serbian: Борбена руговска игра) is a traditional sword dance named after the Rugova Canyon in Kosovo. There are two male dancers who fight a mock battle for the hand of a girl (a "maiden's dance"). It was made internationally famous by the Kosovo Albanian Rugova clans (hailing from Kelmend in Albania). It has been unreliably claimed that the dance was a historical "warrior training of the guard of the Monastery of Peć". The dance is also found in mountainous Montenegro, where a tribe of shepherds settled in the 18th century. It was part of Yugoslav folk dancing ensemble, and in 1982, it was noted that "in the last time the Rugova dance has gained wide popularity"."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugovo_(sword_dance)

Now you can't blame us why we see Albanians as Muslims when we had this as their official representation of tradition.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXHLde5kBwI

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Looks like a depigmented version of Rajastan Gypsies

Even the instrument is similar"compare to man at 11:06" in the video

The funny part is when you have people trying to convice others that this is "normal" and "costumary" in Europe xD "It's not that different in other European nations".

Albanian folk costumes and traditions have always stand out to me because they don't resemble at all any other nation in Europe I can think of.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSJ9SB22EjY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NknjGS0u8IU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6kDLaoDIfc


Wearing turbans, funny hats, singing sitted in socks while drinking tea in Mosque-like rooms, dancing with swords like Saudis, etc, doesn't resemble the middle-east at all, it is "100% unaltered ancient illyrian tradtions from a zillion years ago" xD

[KrashNick]

Looks like a depigmented version of Rajastan Gypsies

Even the instrument is similar"compare to man at 11:06" in the video



That sounds nothing like Lahuta .

You do realize that South Slavs use Lahuta/Gusle too right ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6im89TnjdU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fua5nzrO14Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfp0SZS1vYw
Albanian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDoAG-HTwSk

[Kelmendasi]

Lol how they find one tiny aspect of our clothing which isn't even really used now to claim that we aren't European or Illyrian. It's really petty.

[Mens-Sarda]

https://img.memecdn.com/ancient-illyrian_o_5904249.jpg


xD

The instrument looks like some Arabic derived instrument. If I remember correctly during the Ottoman age, many Albanians were hired as mercenaries and stationed in Egypt as garrison militias. Perhaps they acquired the use of that kind of Turban and musical instrument during their permanence in Egypt.

P.S. What's the name of the Albanian instrument?

The instrument in the concept is similar to this Arabic instrument, just with a different shape :

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/93/b0/af/93b0af1e505267c42109138c1e77c734.jpg

This is from Serbia and Dalmatia

http://www.collezionespada.it/immagini/strum320.jpg

[HERK]

Where exactly?

http://chillin.sk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Ll1QvlrB.jpg

[Albobalboa]

This thread is a good example of the cockworship Albanians have to endure. Now suddenly the fact that there's a sword dance is a problem?

Also Albanians that have to go "dis is similuh in muh yurop da crusadah", just stop. Even if it was identical to the what the MIGHTY CRUSADAHMANZ WUZ WEARIN it doesn't make a difference, all you're doing is making us all look like some coping Serboi/Moor.

Everyone knows the reason Viriato copes through these threads is because Portugal has a crazy amount of recent MENA admixture. Everyone knows that Moja Ime fantasises of Albanian men, and the next thread is likely to be about why Albanian men have belts that are somehow difficult to untie.

[Thanas Django]

This thread is a good example of the cockworship Albanians have to endure. Now suddenly the fact that there's a sword dance is a problem?

Also Albanians that have to go "dis is similuh in muh yurop da crusadah", just stop. Even if it was identical to the what the MIGHTY CRUSADAHMANZ WUZ WEARIN it doesn't make a difference, all you're doing is making us all look like some coping Serboi/Moor.

Everyone knows the reason Viriato copes through these threads is because Portugal has a crazy amount of recent MENA admixture. Everyone knows that Moja Ime fantasises of Albanian men, and the next thread is likely to be about why Albanian men have belts that are somehow difficult to untie.

Albanian men have belts that are somehow difficult to untie?

I think it's time for a new thread.

[Albobalboa]

Albanian men have belts that are somehow difficult to untie?

I think it's time for a new thread.

Don't waste energy, let some Serbian woman start it. Next up is 10% MENA Y-DNA portugese midget to start a thread on Albanian Middle Eastern affinity. TA has become where logic goes to die.

Really replying to it is pointless. People are so butthurt about Albanians existing that they will cry about anything. Enjoy the ride

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Albanian folklore and costumes do seem to have more affinity and resemblencace with the middle-east rather than anything else. Is it just a coincidence? I don't know but it seems factual, no matter how much you try to deconstruct it.

[HERK]

Can an Albanian mod delete the posts of this Moorocan above me, i want to vomit when i see Moorocans saying something

[Tauromachos]

Albanian folklore and costumes do seem to have more affinity and resemblencace with the middle-east rather than anything else. Is it just a coincidence? I don't know but it seems factual, no matter how much you try to deconstruct it.

I wouldn't say with the Middle East in general

But certainly they do have with Anatolia,Caucasus,Armenia,Georgia and some parts of Iran

There is no way around it.

Genetics is a different story of course

[Albobalboa]

Albanian folklore and costumes do seem to have more affinity and resemblencace with the middle-east rather than anything else. Is it just a coincidence? I don't know but it seems factual, no matter how much you try to deconstruct it.

"Wearing turbans, funny hats, singing sitted in socks while drinking tea in Mosque-like rooms, dancing with swords like Saudis, etc, doesn't resemble the middle-east at all, it is "100% unaltered ancient illyrian tradtions from a zillion years ago"

Dancing with swords like Saudis? Funny hats? Singing sitted in socks? "Mosque-like"? You're coping hard. Sword dancing is not strictly Middle Eastern at all. Funny hats? Is that strictly middle eastern? Singing sitted in socks? Should they take off their socks inside and make sure to stand up? Mosque-like or house-like?

"Look at those fakking alvanos in their pants, just like the ISIS boiz!" - Captain butthurt.

I disagree strongly with yurop worshipping Serbian admixture Albanians, but at the same time you're the reverse of them. You're always looking for something, no matter how bottom of the barrel and desperate it is. Worry about your actual recent genetic admixture before you worry about people singing in houses and how that relates to cultural identities.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I wouldn't say with the Middle East in general

But certainly they do have with Anatolia,Caucasus,Armenia,Georgia and some parts of Iran

There is no way around it.

Genetics is a different story of course

Yes, probably not the middle-east (I am admittedly ignorant when it comes to MENA costumes\folklore) but their costumes and folkore are certainly unique. Just my general impression and the vibe I get from it.

[Voskos]

Albotardoa going mad over Arabic instruments.enjoy your byzantine heritage, fagget

[HERK]

Whitest man in Moortugal:

Abdul ibn-Tugali
https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1449/49/1449492827126.jpg

[Albobalboa]

Albotardoa going mad over Arabic instruments.enjoy your byzantine heritage, fagget

Enjoy reflecting on middle age Greece and predominantely male Albanians coming down from the north. You cope through fake history and making scenarios in your head, but the reality has been so much sweeter. There's no reason to be butthurt at all.

You're so European the Crusaders had to fuck you so bad the Turks damn near looked like saviours. Muh yurop

[Tauromachos]

Enjoy reflecting on middle age Greece and predominantely male Albanians coming down from the north.

Lol coming down from the North :lol:

Always this obsession of people with the North

Is if there would be something special about the North

[Albobalboa]

Lol coming down from the North :lol:

Always this obsession of people with the North

Is if there would be something special about the North

Nothing special about the north, just as there's nothing special about the south either. Be yourself and stop clinging to something else.

In the case of Greece there really is something special about the North though, but it isn't related to Albanians.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

"Wearing turbans, funny hats, singing sitted in socks while drinking tea in Mosque-like rooms, dancing with swords like Saudis, etc, doesn't resemble the middle-east at all, it is "100% unaltered ancient illyrian tradtions from a zillion years ago"

Dancing with swords like Saudis? Funny hats? Singing sitted in socks? "Mosque-like"? You're coping hard. Sword dancing is not strictly Middle Eastern at all. Funny hats? Is that strictly middle eastern? Singing sitted in socks? Should they take off their socks inside and make sure to stand up? Mosque-like or house-like?

"Look at those fakking alvanos in their pants, just like the ISIS boiz!" - Captain butthurt (imo, hence why the refference).

I disagree strongly with yurop worshipping Serbian admixture Albanians, but at the same time you're the reverse of them. You're always looking for something, no matter how bottom of the barrel and desperate it is. Worry about your actual recent genetic admixture before you worry about people singing in houses and how that relates to cultural identities.

I know that Saudis have a traditional dance with swords that is performed with drums as well. Check it on YouTube, there are some resemblances.

You know well that removing your shoes, playing sitted and\or being sitted at the ground level, drinking tea from golden teapots in rooms that resemble mosques interiors reminds of Ottoman\Turkish costumes.

I am not just desperatly looking for something, lol. It is just my impression, if you don't find any resemblence then that's your personal view.

[Freeroostah]

Im guessing North Africa, especially Egypt

There was a whole Albanian Dynasty over there who even fought the Ottomans in the 19th century!

[Tauromachos]

Whitest man in Moortugal:

Abdul ibn-Tugali
https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1449/49/1449492827126.jpg

Make his skintone a little bit paler and he fits in Tirana like a glove

[Voskos]

Enjoy reflecting on middle age Greece and predominantely male Albanians coming down from the north. You cope through fake history and making scenarios in your head, but the reality has been so much sweeter. There's no reason to be butthurt at all.

You're so European the Crusaders had to fuck you so bad the Turks damn near looked like saviours. Muh yurop

Lol, you're so butthurt you even have Greeks in your sig. Your butthurt stretches all the way from Sweden where you live down to Greece, and encompasses even western europe and portuguese people, whom you call moors everytime they say something you don't like.

[Kelmendasi]

Make his skintone a little bit paler and he fits in Tirana like a glove
Oh just stop it, if anything he passes better in Cyprus

[Kelmendasi]

The instrument looks like some Arabic derived instrument. If I remember correctly during the Ottoman age, many Albanians were hired as mercenaries and stationed in Egypt as garrison militias. Perhaps they acquired the use of that kind of Turban and musical instrument during their permanence in Egypt.

P.S. What's the name of the Albanian instrument?

The instrument in the concept is similar to this Arabic instrument, just with a different shape :

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/93/b0/af/93b0af1e505267c42109138c1e77c734.jpg

This is from Serbia and Dalmatia

http://www.collezionespada.it/immagini/strum320.jpg
In Albanian the instrument is called Lahuta and is the same thing as the Slavic Gusle. I don't think it's MENA in origin, it's a variation of the Lute iirc. It could possibly come from the Byzantine Lyra

[Kelmendasi]

I wouldn't say with the Middle East in general

But certainly they do have with Anatolia,Caucasus,Armenia,Georgia and some parts of Iran

There is no way around it.

Genetics is a different story of course
Our folklore and costumes aren't closely linked to those in the regions you mentioned. If anything our folklore and costumes are closest to South Slavs and Greeks

[Kelmendasi]

Albanian folklore and costumes do seem to have more affinity and resemblencace with the middle-east rather than anything else. Is it just a coincidence? I don't know but it seems factual, no matter how much you try to deconstruct it.
Nope, we are closest to South Slavs and Greeks in terms of costumes and folklore.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Nope, we are closest to South Slavs and Greeks in terms of costumes and folklore.

I am not super familiar with south slavic folk costumes and traditions but from what I have seen the aesthetics are slightly different.

I am more familiar with Greek folklore. Aesthetically some dances and costumes do look similar, the music however it is not similar at all in my opinion. Probably the Albanians were influenced by it due to the fact that the Hellenic identity\civilization is the oldest\most-well established in the region (and probably in Europe).

[Kelmendasi]

I am not super familiar with south slavic folk costumes and traditions but from what I have seen the aesthetics are slightly different.

I am more familiar with Greek folklore. Aesthetically some dances and costumes do look similar, the music however it is not similar at all in my opinion. Probably the Albanians were influenced by it due to the fact that the Hellenic identity\civilization is the oldest\most-well established in the region (and probably in Europe).
Some of the clothing that they wear resembles that of Albanians, especially Macedonian clothing and certain Serbian ones. Also our folklore is a Balkanic one and thus has links to South Slavic folklore and Greek folklore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_mythology, http://www.albanianliterature.net/folktales/. We share the Fustanella with Greeks and our mythology was influenced by the Greek pantheon

[Moje ime]

Nope, we are closest to South Slavs and Greeks in terms of costumes and folklore.

I've never heard Albanian music that sounds like Serbian traditional music. And I didn't know that you want to be close in anything with Slavs.

[Morlak]

I've never heard Albanian music that sounds like Serbian traditional music. And I didn't know that you want to be close in anything with Slavs.

Well we do share Gusle/lahuta, also Albanian folktales have a similar structure as Serbian even sometimes same characters like Mujo or Ilija Smiljanic(which is actually weird since he is from dalmatia).
Also Albanians have a similar songs with Serbs from Croatia the so called Ojkanje or Ganga as they call it in Dalmatia and Herezegovina.
Serbian example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsjwZ76mIzQ&list=PLLQeIeH4KU7TTwPYdMBeXrMCIbMzTvFK0&index=17
Albanian example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lupW2ZUfQw0&index=8&list=PLLQeIeH4KU7TTwPYdMBeXrMCIbMzTvFK0

[Dukagjini]

Well we do share Gusle/lahuta, also Albanian folktales have a similar structure as Serbian even sometimes same characters like Mujo or Ilija Smiljanic(which is actually weird since he is from dalmatia).
Also Albanians have a similar songs with Serbs from Croatia the so called Ojkanje or Ganga as they call it in Dalmatia and Herezegovina.
Serbian example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsjwZ76mIzQ&list=PLLQeIeH4KU7TTwPYdMBeXrMCIbMzTvFK0&index=17
Albanian example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lupW2ZUfQw0&index=8&list=PLLQeIeH4KU7TTwPYdMBeXrMCIbMzTvFK0

Yea we share gusle/lahuta, here's one example.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9V45z10Hc

[Morlak]

Yea we share gusle/lahuta, here's one example.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9V45z10Hc

Yes indeed, there are also other cultural elements that Serbs( mostly from Montenegro) and Albanians share. Also I think we are the only European people who managed to keep tribal tradition to this day.

[Dukagjini]

Yes indeed, there are also other cultural elements that Serbs( mostly from Montenegro) and Albanians share. Also I think we are the only European people who managed to keep tribal tradition to this day.

I think so too. You don't see this sort of tribal culture and folklore passed down for years, anywhere else in Europe.

[Skerdilaid]

Bonu bur dhe mos em shaj me pseudonym.

Eh, une mu ba burr? Ti e dine kush jam, si e kam emrin dhe nga vie etj. Ti je ai tipi qe kcen prej nje vendi e fisi ne nje vend e fis tjeter, e mbahesh anonim ketu. Suck my balls in prokljete, faggot.

[Kelmendasi]

I've never heard Albanian music that sounds like Serbian traditional music. And I didn't know that you want to be close in anything with Slavs.
What so if I admit that we share things in common I automatically want to be close to Slavs...Great logic there m8. And there are traditional music that sounds alike an example is the Lahuta/Gusle

[Dick]

Yes indeed, there are also other cultural elements that Serbs( mostly from Montenegro) and Albanians share. Also I think we are the only European people who managed to keep tribal tradition to this day.

The instrument along with singing while playing was brought to the Balkans with the Goths and since Serbs have the most % of I1 in the Balkans then it's obvious where it stems from, Serbs, after the Goth settlements.

https://i.imgur.com/r7dp1tT.jpg


https://youtu.be/CvgMSZGnGrQ

[Böri]

That's not Turkish origin. Turks never had anything similar even ecclesiastical class, they don't have turbans covering until throat and neck.
That could be Egyptian influence brought by Albanians of Egypt.

[Tanase Munviescu]

It most probably does come from Turkish influence or maybe Albanians picked it up when they were soldiers in the Ottoman army in countries that wore these turbans. You don't have to wear it covering the neck btw

Eeeehh you cover the neck there and you are done. It's not a big deal to cover the neck during Alpine weather as it's freezing mountain climate.