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zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 04:20 AM
Don't tell me this guy doesn't look Chinese with those eyes. Is this a Scandinavian trait or what with those hooded eyes?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zwq9RCeISY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW5UEW2kYvc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo2OIUpWznY

Mortimer
04-09-2018, 04:20 AM
I posted him before and noticed this too. I thought he might have some amerindian admixture. But some others like certifiedcracker insisted he is just a regular white guy.

zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 04:22 AM
I posted him before and noticed this too. I thought he might have some amerindian admixture. But some others like certifiedcracker insisted he is just a regular white guy.

I do think he's just a regular white guy, but I think it's probably a recessive Scandinavian trait. He's like a Bjork with blonde hair.

Bobby Martnen
04-09-2018, 04:23 AM
I do think he's just a regular white guy, but I think it's probably a recessive Scandinavian trait. He's like a Bjork with blonde hair.

He could easily pass as a multigenerational hapa.

Bobby Martnen
04-09-2018, 04:24 AM
Is this a Scandinavian trait

This is one of the many reasons I don't see Scandinavians as NW-Europeans. Their genetics and appearance are very eastern, and they are more similar to Balts and Finns than other Germanic-speaking groups.

My guess is that they are linguistically Germanicized Finnic and Baltic people with small amounts of real Germanic blood.

Smeagol
04-09-2018, 04:25 AM
He might have some Amerindian ancestry but he doesn't look that odd to me. A lot of Northern Euros have sort of chinky eyes.

zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 04:25 AM
This is one of the many reasons I don't see Scandinavians as NW-Europeans. Their genetics and appearance are very eastern, and they are more similar to Balts and Finns than other Germanic-speaking groups.

My guess is that they are linguistically Germanicized Finnic and Baltic people with small amounts of real Germanic blood.

They're definitely not Northwestern European in the sense that the British/Irish are. They definitely are more Mongoloid shifted because of the presence of Samis. Especially the Finns.

zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 04:26 AM
He might have some Amerindian ancestry but he doesn't look that odd to me. A lot of Northern Euros have sort of chinky eyes.

It's not that common. But it happens. I've seen a few. I think it's mostly from Scando descent.

Smeagol
04-09-2018, 04:27 AM
My guess is that they are linguistically Germanicized Finnic and Baltic people with small amounts of real Germanic blood.

Germanic people originated in southern Scandinavia.

Bobby Martnen
04-09-2018, 04:29 AM
Germanic people originated in southern Scandinavia.

Yes, but a large part of the modern Scandinavian genome appears to be from Finland or the Baltics.

Bobby Martnen
04-09-2018, 04:30 AM
They're definitely not Northwestern European in the sense that the British/Irish are. They definitely are more Mongoloid shifted because of the presence of Samis. Especially the Finns.

Lapps and Finns have real Mongoloid admixture, but Swedes and Norwegians (and Danes, to a lesser extent) have a lot of Eastern European DNA that Brits and West Germans lack.

Smeagol
04-09-2018, 04:31 AM
Yes, but a large part of the modern Scandinavian genome appears to be from Finland or the Baltics.

Im not sure about that. They're mostly Germanic, but some have some Lapp blood.

Bobby Martnen
04-09-2018, 04:34 AM
Im not sure about that. They're mostly Germanic, but some have some Lapp blood.

Let me try to find some Scando GEDmatches

zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 04:37 AM
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Iloko
04-09-2018, 04:39 AM
Tbh I've never met a single white person IRL of whom had actual monolids before.

Bobby Martnen
04-09-2018, 04:40 AM
Im not sure about that. They're mostly Germanic, but some have some Lapp blood.

A Norwegian - notice the eastward shift compared to real NW Euros.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 34.93
2 Atlantic 29.5
3 Baltic 12.35
4 Eastern_Euro 10.23
5 West_Med 6.17
6 West_Asian 3.09
7 Siberian 2.81
8 South_Asian 0.91

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 4.06
2 Irish 4.28
3 West_Scottish 4.39
4 North_Dutch 4.69
5 North_German 4.84
6 Southeast_English 5.18
7 Orcadian 6.25
8 Southwest_English 6.44
9 Norwegian 7.29
10 Swedish 8.17
11 West_Norwegian 8.35
12 South_Dutch 8.63
13 North_Swedish 9.56
14 West_German 10.5
15 East_German 12.6
16 Southwest_Finnish 13.19
17 French 13.65
18 Austrian 16.48
19 Finnish 16.63
20 Hungarian 17.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.4% Irish + 7.6% Mari @ 2.25
2 95.3% Irish + 4.7% Selkup @ 2.41
3 91.7% Irish + 8.3% Chuvash @ 2.45
4 85.8% Irish + 14.2% East_Finnish @ 2.51
5 89.2% West_Scottish + 10.8% Tatar @ 2.51
6 95.3% Irish + 4.7% Ket @ 2.52
7 85.6% West_Scottish + 14.4% East_Finnish @ 2.57
8 89.7% Irish + 10.3% Tatar @ 2.62
9 92.7% West_Scottish + 7.3% Mari @ 2.62
10 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Selkup @ 2.67
11 78.8% West_Scottish + 21.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.68
12 83.2% Irish + 16.8% Finnish @ 2.7
13 82.7% West_Scottish + 17.3% Finnish @ 2.72
14 94.6% Irish + 5.4% Shors @ 2.72
15 95.4% West_Scottish + 4.6% Ket @ 2.72
16 79.7% Irish + 20.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.73
17 91.9% West_Scottish + 8.1% Chuvash @ 2.74
18 94.9% Irish + 5.1% Hakas @ 2.8
19 88.8% West_Scottish + 11.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.81
20 96.4% Irish + 3.6% Dolgan @ 2.83

Bobby Martnen
04-09-2018, 04:41 AM
We have similar eyes. This guy's eyes looks more like mine than some regular white dude. DONT QUOTE.


You're a handsome dude.

Latinus
04-09-2018, 05:33 AM
He looks what he is: a white guy with pseudo mongoloid eyes.

Thambi
04-09-2018, 05:45 AM
We have similar eyes. This guy's eyes looks more like mine than some regular white dude. DONT QUOTE.

there are some white guys with such monolid type eyes. Some famous ones like Brad pitt, leanardo di caprio have it as well and they are 100% white so i think it occurs occasionally.

And yeah bro you're quite attractive, no homo haha. Are you from northern china? You look slightly mongol influenced.

zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 05:55 AM
there are some white guys with such monolid type eyes. Some famous ones like Brad pitt, leanardo di caprio have it as well and they are 100% white so i think it occurs occasionally.

And yeah bro you're quite attractive, no homo haha. Are you from northern china? You look slightly mongol influenced.

I've noticed monolid eyes on White people who are of Scando descent, and Eastern European descent mostly. But Alan Jackson's monolid eyes look very prominent.

I'm actually half Northern Chinese, but phenotypically look 110% Northern.

Bobby Martnen
04-09-2018, 05:57 AM
I've noticed monolid eyes on White people who are of Scando descent, and Eastern European descent mostly. But Alan Jackson's monolid eyes look very prominent.

I'm actually half Northern Chinese, but phenotypically look 110% Northern.

What's your Y-DNA?

zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 06:01 AM
What's your Y-DNA?

O3 which is typical for Han Chinese.

Bobby Martnen
04-09-2018, 06:08 AM
O3 which is typical for Han Chinese.

Nice! I thought most East Asians were C, though

What company did you test with?

zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 06:09 AM
Nice! I thought most East Asians were C, though

What company did you test with?

23andme, it was a while back though. I posted it on here. I also scored about 99% Neanderthal so I had uncommonly high Neanderthal.

I'm also the most racially pure person on this forum, it was 98.5% Chinese for my ethnic breakdown. lol

User50
04-09-2018, 06:34 PM
Maybe he's Sami.

Latinus
04-09-2018, 07:28 PM
I've noticed monolid eyes on White people who are of Scando descent, and Eastern European descent mostly. But Alan Jackson's monolid eyes look very prominent.

I'm actually half Northern Chinese, but phenotypically look 110% Northern.

Is your phenotype common among Chinese Americans? I assume that most Chinese descendants in the US have roots in Southern China.

Finnish Swede
04-09-2018, 08:04 PM
Scandinavians succee just well in any beauty contest (or peoples votes). Better than most of other Europeans. LOL!


What comes to Finns, they are not Scandinavians. Here is a popular rap-group from Finland. Both guys are ethnic Finns. Right side guy has bit that kind of eyes (which some Finns can have...not often but sometimes). Swedes have those much much less, Norwegians again lesser and Danish basically not at all.
https://im.mtv.fi/image/3036678/landscape16_9/1024/576/ed7c943d456082ed79c0a920cc8c000a/Sl/1813208.jpg

Narrow eyes are ''mongoloids''eyes? So people keeps her eyes ''mongoloid eyes'' (a Finn)?
http://i.xomf.com/lbchk.jpg

Bobby Martnen
04-09-2018, 08:08 PM
23andme, it was a while back though. I posted it on here. I also scored about 99% Neanderthal so I had uncommonly high Neanderthal.

I'm also the most racially pure person on this forum, it was 98.5% Chinese for my ethnic breakdown. lol

Can you post it again? I can't find it.

zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 08:09 PM
Can you post it again? I can't find it.

It was a long time ago. I'll have to try to find it when I have time.

zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 08:09 PM
Scandinavians succee just well in any beauty contest (or peoples votes). Better than most of other Europeans. LOL!


What comes to Finns, they are not Scandinavians. Here is a popular rap-group from Finland. Both guys are ethnic Finns. Right side guy has bit that kind of eyes (which some Finns can have...not often but sometimes). Swedes have those much much less, Norwegians again lesser and Danish basically not at all.
https://im.mtv.fi/image/3036678/landscape16_9/1024/576/ed7c943d456082ed79c0a920cc8c000a/Sl/1813208.jpg

Narrow eyes are ''mongoloids''eyes? So people keeps her eyes ''mongoloid eyes'' (a Finn)?
http://i.xomf.com/lbchk.jpg

The only one with the monolid eyes among the people you posted is the guy on the right.

Finnish Swede
04-09-2018, 08:19 PM
The only one with the monolid eyes among the people you posted is the guy on the right.

Good (the girl is actually Finnish Swede, who has narrow eyes).

zhaoyun
04-09-2018, 08:24 PM
Good (the girl is actually Finnish Swede, who has narrow eyes).

I actually don't find her eyes narrow. Europeans with narrow eyes would be this:

http://www1.pictures.stylebistro.com/gi/Premiere+Universal+Pictures+Illumination+Entertain ment+EgpmbVEBQ68l.jpg

Lightshade25
04-09-2018, 08:26 PM
Ain't he of English descent?

KMack
04-09-2018, 08:31 PM
Ain't he of English descent?

He looks British isles of some sort.

Finnish Swede
04-09-2018, 08:34 PM
He looks British isles of some sort.

So bit like him? Huge nose.
http://www.walesoncraic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/chris-rea.jpg

Vlatko Vukovic
04-09-2018, 08:38 PM
Hooded eyes are massivly from Cro-Magnonids. This guy in my opinion doesn't look East Asian.

Valwar
04-09-2018, 11:46 PM
This is one of the many reasons I don't see Scandinavians as NW-Europeans. Their genetics and appearance are very eastern, and they are more similar to Balts and Finns than other Germanic-speaking groups.

My guess is that they are linguistically Germanicized Finnic and Baltic people with small amounts of real Germanic blood.


It's the other way around. We are Germanic people with small amounts of admixture from Finno-Ugric groups. Epicanthus and other similar traits appear in other Europeans too, take a look at German Marco Sturm (https://www.pyeongchang2018.com/en/game-time/results/OWG2018/resOWG2018/img/bios/photos/3029956.jpg) for example.

Odin
04-10-2018, 12:10 AM
Zero East Asian.:rolleyes:

Finnish Swede
04-10-2018, 04:34 AM
It's the other way around. We are Germanic people with small amounts of admixture from Finno-Ugric groups. Epicanthus and other similar traits appear in other Europeans too, take a look at German Marco Sturm (https://www.pyeongchang2018.com/en/game-time/results/OWG2018/resOWG2018/img/bios/photos/3029956.jpg) for example.

Exactly! People just are too stuid to understand that.


What else. I would love to see a genetic test among of Finns. Ones which do not have Samis or any Asian (foreigners) ancestors in near/known history. Between groups of people who has bit that kind of eyes vs. majority of Finns. Would the first ones be exactly someway much more ''Asian'' or not?
I guess people tends to think ...yes....but what if the answer would be more a less nope?

Different ''tribes'' populated Finland some 1000years ago then Swedish arrived. Today those are more mixed (as well as Finnish language harmonized). Their non-European part (5-6% to 8%) is still not the only thing (genetically) which can separate them.

(The same could be done among of Samis too, but that group variates some much (othere ways), is so small, and much more heterogenic... so to see/study only that...would be very difficult).

Bobby Martnen
04-10-2018, 04:53 AM
It's the other way around. We are Germanic people with small amounts of admixture from Finno-Ugric groups. Epicanthus and other similar traits appear in other Europeans too, take a look at German Marco Sturm (https://www.pyeongchang2018.com/en/game-time/results/OWG2018/resOWG2018/img/bios/photos/3029956.jpg) for example.

You are linguistically Germanic, but not genetically.

JohnSmith
04-10-2018, 04:59 AM
Hmm I also thought Jimmy Fallon had a Asian look to himself, it does't matter it is a normal look



https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/4JmBJurHt5EIMdhSiClvVyY28cE/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2013/01/01/5/192/1922398/fc6fddd5d0b6cc78_111879627.jpg

Latinus
04-10-2018, 05:06 AM
Hmm I also thought Jimmy Fallon had a Asian look to himself, it does't matter it is a normal look



https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/4JmBJurHt5EIMdhSiClvVyY28cE/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2013/01/01/5/192/1922398/fc6fddd5d0b6cc78_111879627.jpg

0% Asian look.

Valwar
04-10-2018, 12:38 PM
You are linguistically Germanic, but not genetically.

Not true. Scandinavians are the most genetically Germanic people. Look at this map of the percentage of major Y-DNA haplogroups in Europe (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Percentage_of_major_Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_Europe.png/1920px-Percentage_of_major_Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_Europe.png).

As you can see, Scandinavians, and especially Swedes, have the highest percent of l1 (also known as I-M253). This haplogroup is the one most associated with Germanic people, and it is found at higher rates where ancient Germanic people migrated to or invaded.

Harkonnen
04-10-2018, 01:54 PM
Hmm I also thought Jimmy Fallon had a Asian look to himself, it does't matter it is a normal look



https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/4JmBJurHt5EIMdhSiClvVyY28cE/fit-in/500x500/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2013/01/01/5/192/1922398/fc6fddd5d0b6cc78_111879627.jpg

Nah, is Germanic look. His waifu has the Finno-Ugric look

http://static.celebuzz.com/uploads/2014/12/09/Nancy-Juvonen-Jimmy-Fallon.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/58/ae/66/58ae66764504d1bb06b3045d7cc617a8--nancy-juvonen-famous-couples.jpg
http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600/nancy_juvonen_2004_02_03.jpg


Juvonen, who is of Finnish descent,[12] is the daughter of aviation industry executive William H. Juvonen, who is a Stanford University alumnus and former Marine Aviator.[13] In September 1961 while flying a gunnery mission as a new aviator undergoing fleet replacement pilot training in VMF 334, he experienced a wing failure at the fold joint and ejected from his F-8C Crusader jet.[14] To commemorate the event, on March 31, 2015, his son-in-law, Jimmy Fallon, presented him with a commemorative Martin-Baker watch on The Tonight Show (Martin-Baker made his ejection seat).




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Juvonen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0cn5C1-c90

Harkonnen
04-10-2018, 02:05 PM
Jim Juvonen has bushman admix

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ0MzY4MjM4MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDgzNDAz._V1._ SX450_SY700_.jpg

Bobby Martnen
04-10-2018, 02:09 PM
Not true. Scandinavians are the most genetically Germanic people. Look at this map of the percentage of major Y-DNA haplogroups in Europe (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Percentage_of_major_Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_Europe.png/1920px-Percentage_of_major_Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_Europe.png).

As you can see, Scandinavians, and especially Swedes, have the highest percent of l1 (also known as I-M253). This haplogroup is the one most associated with Germanic people, and it is found at higher rates where ancient Germanic people migrated to or invaded.

Most of your Finnic and Baltic admixture is maternal.

nicalandia
04-10-2018, 03:39 PM
Dang.. I missed zhaoyun picture before he took it down, some say we may look like distance cousins..:cool:

Harkonnen
04-10-2018, 09:59 PM
Most of your Finnic and Baltic admixture is maternal.

Interdasting theory. If that's true the Anglo-Saxons who invated Britain had Finnish admixture. Also Germans seem to largely lack Finnish admixture and thus must have other nonFinnoGermanic admixture.

http://oi66.tinypic.com/2568kuw.jpg

Harkonnen
04-10-2018, 10:11 PM
Bobby might be onto something...


British population history is shaped by a complex series of repeated immigration periods and associated changes in population structure. It is an open question however, to what extent each of these changes is reflected in the genetic ancestry of the current British population. Here we use ancient DNA sequencing to help address that question. We present whole genome sequences generated from five individuals that were found in archaeological excavations at the Wellcome Trust Genome Campus near Cambridge (UK), two of which are dated to around 2,000 years before present (Iron Age), and three to around 1,300 years before present (Anglo-Saxon period). Good preservation status allowed us to generate one high coverage sequence (12x) from an Iron Age individual, and four low coverage sequences (1x-4x) from the other samples.
By providing the first ancient whole genome sequences from Britain, we get a unique picture of the ancestral populations in Britain before and after the Anglo-Saxon immigrations. We use modern genetic reference panels such as the 1000 Genomes Project to examine the relationship of these ancient samples with present day population genetic data. Results from principal component analysis suggest that all samples fall consistently within the broader Northern European context, which is also consistent with mtDNA haplogroups. In addition, we obtain a finer structural genetic classification from rare genetic variants and haplotype based methods such as FineStructure. Reflecting more recent genetic ancestry, results from these methods suggest significant differences between the Iron Age and the Anglo-Saxon period samples when compared to other European samples. We find in particular that while the Anglo-Saxon samples resemble more closely the modern British population than the earlier samples, the Iron Age samples share more low frequency variation than the later ones with present day samples from southern Europe, in particular Spain (1000GP IBS). In addition the Anglo-Saxon period samples appear to share a stronger older component with Finnish (1000GP FIN) individuals. Our findings help characterize the ancestral European populations involved in major European migration movements into Britain in the last 2,000 years and thus provide more insights into the genetic history of people in northern Europe.

Insuperable
04-10-2018, 10:17 PM
Not even close.

Harkonnen
04-10-2018, 10:32 PM
Lapps and Finns have real Mongoloid admixture, but Swedes and Norwegians (and Danes, to a lesser extent) have a lot of Eastern European DNA that Brits and West Germans lack.

No dude Norwegians do have real mongoloid ancestry. Even the French are 23% East Asian


While we did not carefully model present-day Europeans in our main admixture graph, we did build an extended graph with French added (25 individuals). A good fit was obtained with four ancestry components, related to western (K14), northern (near the base of the MA1 lineage), and eastern (specified as the same source as for MA1) Eurasians, plus Basal Eurasian (specified without Neanderthal introgression; Lazaridis et al. 2016). The inferred proportions were 27.7%, 34.9%, 23.2%, and 14.2%, respectively, with essentially no change in the list of residuals. We note that these sources do not represent the proximal ancestral populations of present-day Europeans (Lazaridis et al. 2014; Haak et al. 2015), and this fit also may not be the optimal one, but it does provide a sense of the relationships of Europeans to the major lineages defined in our model.



It comes from their R1 ancestors originating in South East Asia.

Harkonnen
04-10-2018, 10:34 PM
Most of your Finnic and Baltic admixture is maternal.

Anglo-Saxon sample was I1, so Finnic admix comes from paternal side :coffee:

Bobby Martnen
04-10-2018, 10:48 PM
Anglo-Saxon sample was I1, so Finnic admix comes from paternal side :coffee:

Finns aren't I1. Scandinavians have detectable admixture from Baltic and Finnic people.

Finnish Swede
04-11-2018, 08:28 AM
Finns aren't I1. Scandinavians have detectable admixture from Baltic and Finnic people.

Some of the very highest % of I1 have been actually founded from Ostrobothnia Finland...

Black Panther
04-11-2018, 08:46 AM
Scandos are hapas.

Carpatz
04-11-2018, 09:16 AM
Yes, but a large part of the modern Scandinavian genome appears to be from Finland or the Baltics.
Was't the Corded Ware culture a precursor of proto-Germanics? If anything, Scandinavians are more "real" germanics with their eastern shifting, while others are assimilated western indo-europeans (italo-celtics)

Harkonnen
04-11-2018, 07:48 PM
Was't the Corded Ware culture a precursor of proto-Germanics? If anything, Scandinavians are more "real" germanics with their eastern shifting, while others are assimilated western indo-europeans (italo-celtics)

Finnish admixture would lower Corded Ware admixture in Scandinavians as Finns are notoriously low on Corded Ware admix. Even in the pic I posted to me it looks clear that the ancestry component which pulls Central Europeans and East Europeans away from Anglo-Saxon sample is indeed very likely some sort of Corded Ware based ancestry component.

http://oi66.tinypic.com/2568kuw.jpg

Bobby Martnen
04-11-2018, 10:27 PM
Some of the very highest % of I1 have been actually founded from Ostrobothnia Finland...

It's from admixture with Germanic people, though. Indigenous Finnic people aren't I1.

Bobby Martnen
04-11-2018, 10:30 PM
Was't the Corded Ware culture a precursor of proto-Germanics? If anything, Scandinavians are more "real" germanics with their eastern shifting, while others are assimilated western indo-europeans (italo-celtics)

Germanics are NW Euros, not NE Euros.

Finnish Swede
04-11-2018, 10:54 PM
It's from admixture with Germanic people, though. Indigenous Finnic people aren't I1.

Maybe. All things with Finns are not yet clear.

In any cases Finland's I1% is much higher than our (Finnist Swedes) share has never been in Finland (Swedish who moved to Finland between 14th century and 18th century). No doubt we have brough all R1 to Finland ... and based on that (and haplogroups % in Sweden)... maybe some 1/3 of Finland's I1 are also caused by us. But majority (2/3) has another orgin. Not say they would not be pro-Germanic...but they have arrived Finland much earlier. Fact that I1 can also be found (of course smaller share %, but still) in Eastern Finland...support that idea. We have never moved/lived there.

PS: What it matters what Indigenous Finnic might have been...todays Finns are not that.

Bobby Martnen
04-11-2018, 10:56 PM
Maybe. All things with Finns are not still yet clear.

In any cases I1% is much higher than our (Finnist Swedes) share has never been in Finland (Swedish who moved to Finland between 14th century and 18th century). No doubt we have brough all R1 to Finland ... and based on that (and Swedish's haplogroups) maybe some 1/3 of Finland's I1 are also caused by us. But majority (2/3) has another orgin. Not say they would not be pro-Germanic...but they have arrived Finland much earlier. Fact that I1 can also be found (of course smaller share, but still) in Eastern Finland...support that idea. We have never moved/lived there.

PS: What it means what Indigenous Finnic might have been...todays Finns are not that.

It probably comes from Germanic people who moved there prior to Swedish rule who assimilated into the local population.

Carpatz
04-11-2018, 10:58 PM
Germanics are NW Euros, not NE Euros.

You're using those terms as if they were set in stone and there's no overlap. Proto-germanics originate mainly from the Corded Ware culture, of which proto-balto-slavics were the eastern branch. Scandinavian countries have relatively high R1a (more than balkan slavs), as do regions settled by vikings, such as Scotland. The baltic-like admixture in Scandinavians is most likely ancient.

Bobby Martnen
04-11-2018, 11:08 PM
You're using those terms as if they were set in stone and there's no overlap. Proto-germanics originate mainly from the Corded Ware culture, of which proto-balto-slavics were the eastern branch. Scandinavian countries have relatively high R1a (more than balkan slavs), as do regions settled by vikings, such as Scotland. The baltic-like admixture in Scandinavians is most likely ancient.

Balkan Slavs are linguistically Slavic, but a lot of their DNA is not Slavic.

Same with Scandinavians - they speak a Germanic language, but are only somewhat related to other Germanic people.

Carpatz
04-11-2018, 11:31 PM
Balkan Slavs are linguistically Slavic, but a lot of their DNA is not Slavic.

Same with Scandinavians - they speak a Germanic language, but are only somewhat related to other Germanic people.

As I said above, if any Germanic group should be labeled as fake (I don't think any should be labeled as such), It's any other besides Scandinavians, who most closely resemble proto-germanics.

Bobby Martnen
04-11-2018, 11:34 PM
As I said above, if any Germanic group should be labeled as fake (I don't think any should be labeled as such), It's any other besides Scandinavians, who most closely resemble proto-germanics.

Do you have any proof that the original Germanics were like Scandos instead of West Germans?

Wanderer
04-21-2018, 11:52 AM
I don't see Oriental in him.

Heather Duval
09-28-2018, 05:20 PM
He doesnt.

http://www.snakkle.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/alan-jackson-split.jpg
http://dz8z45gu0xcif.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/01094413/322bcd63a11754eba1d86c49141dcdf7-country-music-singers-entertainer-of-the-year.jpg

Hes fully English.

Ethnicity: English
Source: http://ethnicelebs.com/alan-jackson

aherne
09-28-2018, 08:31 PM
Borreby-Corded mix typical of English Americans (which is what he probably is), common in England but more common in Scandinavia. His look is more at home in Norway than England, but a large minority of English people (in US or UK) look totally Scandinavian (due to Viking or earlier Anglo-Saxon ancestries). As a matter of fact, when I was in Denmark (Jutland) I was shocked how similar locals were to English...

nittionia
09-28-2018, 08:32 PM
he looks like a regular white guy to me

tekken999
09-28-2018, 08:33 PM
He looks like a Chinese guy cosplaying as a country singer with a blond wig on