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Aemma
02-18-2011, 06:48 AM
An old article by today's standards but still interesting enough to read.


PrincetonUniversity

April 25, 2002

New Theory Provides Alternative to Big Bang

A new theory of the universe suggests that space and time may not have begun in a big bang, but may have always existed in an endless cycle of expansion and rebirth.

Princeton physicist Paul Steinhardt and Neil Turok of Cambridge University described their proposed theory in an article published April 25 in an online edition of Science.

The theory proposes that, in each cycle, the universe refills with hot, dense matter and radiation, which begins a period of expansion and cooling like the one of the standard big bang picture. After 14 billion years, the expansion of the universe accelerates, as astronomers have recently observed. After trillions of years, the matter and radiation are almost completely dissipated and the expansion stalls. An energy field that pervades the universe then creates new matter and radiation, which restarts the cycle.

The new theory provides possible answers to several longstanding problems with the big bang model, which has dominated the field of cosmology for decades. It addresses, for example, the nagging question of what might have triggered or come "before" the beginning of time.
The idea also reproduces all the successful explanations provided by standard picture, but there is no direct evidence to say which is correct, said Steinhardt, a professor of physics. "I do not eliminate either of them at this stage," he said. "To me, what's interesting is that we now have a second possibility that is poles apart from the standard picture in many respects, and we may have the capability to distinguish them experimentally during the coming years."

The big bang model of the universe, originally suggested over 60 years ago, has been developed to explain a wide range of observations about the cosmos. A major element of the current model, added in the 1980s, is the theory of "inflation," a period of hyperfast expansion that occurred within the first second after the big bang. This inflationary period is critical for explaining the tremendous "smoothness" and homogeneity of the universe observed by astronomers, as well as for explaining tiny ripples in space that led to the formation of galaxies.

Scientists also have been forced to augment the standard theory with a component called "dark energy" to account for the recent discovery that the expansion of the universe is accelerating.

The new model replaces inflation and dark energy with a single energy field that oscillates in such a way as to sometimes cause expansion and sometimes cause stagnation. At the same time, it continues to explain all the currently observed phenomena of the cosmos in the same detail as the big bang theory.

Because the new theory requires fewer components, and builds them in from the start, it is more "economical," said Steinhardt, who was one of the leaders in establishing the theory of inflation.

Another advantage of the new theory is that it automatically includes a prediction of the future course of the universe, because it goes through definite repeating cycles lasting perhaps trillions of years each. The big bang/inflation model has no built-in prediction about the long-term future; in the same way that inflation and dark energy arose unpredictably, another effect could emerge that would alter the current course of expansion.

The cyclic model entails many new concepts that Turok and Steinhardt developed over the last few years with Justin Khoury, a graduate student at Princeton, Burt Ovrut of the University of Pennsylvania and Nathan Seiberg of the Institute for Advanced Study.

"This work by Paul Steinhardt and Neil Turok is extraordinarily exciting and represents the first new big idea in cosmology in over two decades," said Jeremiah Ostriker, professor of astrophysics at Princeton and the Plumian Professor of Astronomy and Experimental Philosophy at Cambridge.

"They have found a simple explanation for the observed fact that the universe on large scales looks the same to us left and right, up and down -- a seemingly obvious and natural condition -- that in fact has defied explanation for decades."

Sir Martin Rees, Royal Society Research Fellow at Cambridge, noted that the physics concerning key properties of the expanding universe remain "conjectural, and still not rooted in experiment or observation."

"There have been many ideas over the last 20 years," said Rees. "Steinhardt and Turok have injected an imaginative new speculation. Their work emphasizes the extent to which we may need to jettison common sense concepts, and transcend normal ideas of space and time, in order to make real progress.

"This work adds to the growing body of speculative research which intimates that physical reality could encompass far more than just the aftermath of 'our' big bang."

The cyclic universe theory represents a combination of standard physical concepts and ideas from the emerging fields of string theory and M-theory, which are ambitious efforts to develop a unified theory of all physical forces and particles. Although these theories are rooted in complex mathematics, they offer a compelling graphic picture of the cyclic universe theory.

Under these theories, the universe would exist as two infinitely large parallel sheets, like two sheets of paper separated by a microscopic distance. This distance is an extra, or fifth dimension, that is not apparent to us. At our current phase in the history of the universe, the sheets are expanding in all directions, gradually spreading out and dispersing all the matter and energy they contain. After trillions of years, when they become essentially empty, they enter a "stagnant" period in which they stop stretching and, instead, begin to move toward each other as the fifth dimension undergoes a collapse.

The sheets meet and "bounce" off each other. The impact causes the sheets to be charged with the extraordinarily hot and dense matter that is commonly associated with the big bang. After the sheets move apart, they resume their expansion, spreading out the matter, which cools and coalesces into stars and galaxies as in our present universe.

The sheets, or branes, as physicists call them, are not parallel universes, but rather are facets of the same universe, with one containing all the ordinary matter we know and the other containing "we know not what," said Steinhardt. It is conceivable, he said, that a material called dark matter, which is widely believed to make up a significant part of the universe, resides on this other brane. The two sheets interact only by gravity, with massive objects in one sheet exerting a tug on matter in the other, which is what dark matter does to ordinary matter.

The movements and properties of these sheets all arise naturally from the underlying mathematics of the model, noted Steinhardt. That is in contrast to the big bang model, in which dark energy has been added simply to explain current observations.

Steinhardt and Turok continue to refine the theory and are looking for theoretical or experimental ideas that might favor one idea over the other.

"These paradigms are as far apart as you can imagine in terms of the nature of time," said Steinhardt. "On the other hand, in terms of what they predict about the universe, they are as close as you can be up to what you can measure so far.

"Yet, we also know that, with more precise observations that may be possible in the next decade or so, you can distinguish them. That is the fascinating situation we find ourselves in. It's fun to debate which ones you like better, but I really think nature will be the final arbiter here."

For further information and a graphic animation of the cyclic scenario, see http://feynman.princeton.edu/~steinh/

After reading such things why do I...

find it even more impressive that man's cosmogony myths speak Truth more than not?

feel as though the moebius strip is more and more accurate as a paradigm for all of life?

Zankapfel
02-18-2011, 08:17 PM
Alfred Hoyle said that the Big Bang is an irrational process that cannot be described in scientific terms, nor challenged by an appeal to observation ;]

The standard cosmological model is the Big Bang. The evidence supporting that model is enormous, though it is not without problems (antimatter, flatness, horizon, galaxy formation). Aside from that, any alternative to the Big Bang theory needs to explain little voids such as cosmic background radiation, the relative abundance of light isotopes,Hubble's law, Olber's paradox.

Here's some food for thought, a few of many alternatives to the Big Bang I consider interesting.
Although a collision between two membrane Universes is interesting enough, I must admit.

Robert Duncan’s Aufbau Laws is a non-expansionist theory that combines Ampere’s Law with Mach’s Principle and it has a lot in common with the WSM theories.
http://www.rbduncan.com/

The Cosmic Commode is a cyclic theory in which stars and galaxies from our universe disappear down black holes and emerge from quasars on the "other side". The emerging matter forms stars and galaxies on the other side which eventually go down black holes and return as matter spouting from quasars back on our side. This is not the most credible of theories but it is the best written and most entertaining of all the cosmologies. I like it.
http://www.thecosmiccommode.com/

The Genuine Cosmic Rosetta by the Gentry brothers is a General Relativistic cosmology that counters the Special Relativistic view of the Big Bang theory and its dependence on Doppler redshifts.
http://www.creationists.org/robertgentry/abstract3.html

John Hunter has a cosmology based the notion that the dynamics of our universe can be explained as a decline in the strength of Newton’s gravitational constant. This seems to be a popular hypothesis because several cosmologies are based on the same idea. Most are extremely dense with math but Hunters is the most readable.
http://journalofcosmology.com/HunterCosmology.pdf

Aand last but not least, the Eureka theory by Edgar Allan Poe (yes, that Poe) is a sketchy version of the Big Bang theory and it goes to show that even the Big Bang was once a crazy theory way out in left field :D
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/poe/eureka.html

Also Aemms, if you wish to read even further into this, I can stop being lazy and cite all my sources properly for you.

Psychonaut
02-18-2011, 08:53 PM
Alfred Hoyle said that the Big Bang is an irrational process that cannot be described in scientific terms, nor challenged by an appeal to observation ;]

Do you buy that?

Answers like that, regarding anything really, have always seemed to me to be the same kind of cop out that theists give when they can't figure something out. Like the notorious, "oh, well God works in mysterious ways, LOL." To posit that there is an irrational character to the universe would be to deny causality, right? And that's something even the most radical interpretations of Bell's theorem don't call for.

Zankapfel
02-19-2011, 12:15 AM
Do you buy that?

No, of course not. Just my weird-spirited humour.
I am almost disappointed that you missed this little hint ;] at the end of the sentence :D

Don
02-19-2011, 12:48 AM
I though the more accepted "theory", each time with more and more closer followers, is one involving some guy called alá or alláh or something like that, probably making explode that basketball ball into pieces or some other weird things, such as, eventually, take back all the pieces into another ball... a football one this time or the same basketball one???

Some people can't stand La Nada, the insignificance or the no-sense, no-reason.
Not everyone can be a nihilist.

http://www.jorgevila.com.ar/creacion%20del%20hombe.jpg
Ex nihilo nihil fit.

Svipdag
02-19-2011, 02:37 AM
It is, of course, always dangerous to criticise a mathematical theory on the basis of the logical inconsistency of a verbal explanation of it. however, given only such an explanation, I must raise some questions which it implies.

We are told that, after trillions of years of expansion, matter and radiation are both almost entirely dissipated.How and Why ? Expansion does not and can not dissipate matter. Its only effect is to decrease its average density.

Somehow, this is supposed to bring the expansion to a stop. The only force opposing expansion is gravitational attraction. The more tenuously the matter is distributed, the LESS gravitational interaction there is. herefore, logically, the expansion should NEVER stop.

Once the expansion has stopped [if ever] a deus ex machina is introduced. An energy field, THEN creates matter and radiation to start a new universe.
How does this energy field create matter and radiation, and out of what ?
"Ex nihilo nihil fit"

If, as the theory implies, this energy field has existed all along,why did it wait so long to create new matter and radiation ? If it were, indeed, capable of so doing, why has it not been active throughout the expansion of the
universe, as Fred Hoyle proposed in his steady-state cosmology ?

These may be merely critcisms of a particular effort to explain a complex mathematical theory verbally, but, if they truly apply to the theory itself, they are troubling.

Cato
02-19-2011, 03:37 AM
As an alternative to the Big Bang, I like plasma cosmology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_cosmology

Aemma
03-04-2011, 05:35 PM
It is, of course, always dangerous to criticise a mathematical theory on the basis of the logical inconsistency of a verbal explanation of it. however, given only such an explanation, I must raise some questions which it implies.

We are told that, after trillions of years of expansion, matter and radiation are both almost entirely dissipated.How and Why ? Expansion does not and can not dissipate matter. Its only effect is to decrease its average density.

Somehow, this is supposed to bring the expansion to a stop. The only force opposing expansion is gravitational attraction. The more tenuously the matter is distributed, the LESS gravitational interaction there is. herefore, logically, the expansion should NEVER stop.

Once the expansion has stopped a deus ex machina is introduced. An energy field, THEN creates matter and radiation to start a new universe.
How does this energy field create matter and radiation, and out of what ?
"Ex nihilo nihil fit"

If, as the theory implies, this energy field has existed all along,why did it wait so long to create new matter and radiation ? If it were, indeed, capable of so doing, why has it not been active throughout the expansion of the
universe, as Fred Hoyle proposed in his steady-state cosmology ?

These may be merely critcisms of a particular effort to explain a complex mathematical theory verbally, but, if they truly apply to the theory itself, they are troubling.

I picked up Steinhardt and Turok's book, Endless Universe: Beyond the Big Bang--Rewriting Cosmic History, a week and a half ago and started reading it. It's a good read I have to say if you're so inclined towards these things of course.

Maybe this description of their model, excerpted from their book, might answer some of your questions (pp. 61-65):


The cyclic tale pictures a universe in which galaxies, stars, and life have been formed over and over again long before the most recent big bang, and will be remade cycle after cycle far into the future. Cosmic evolution consists of a series of transformations, from hot to cold, from dense to dilute, and from uniform to lumpy and back again at regular intervals spanning up to a trillion years or more. Space naturally smooths and flattens itself after each cycle of galaxy formation and before the next big bang, so the model doesn't need to include a burst of inflation.

Each cycle divides into 6 stages. Since the cycles repeat, the description can begin with any stage. For ease in comparing the cyclic model with its inflationary counterpart, it is helpful to start at the moment when the temperature and energy density of the universe reach their highest values.

THE BIG BANG: Unlike the inflationary picture, the cyclic model does not include a moment when the temperature and density become infinite. Instead, the big bang is an event that can, in principle, be fully described using the laws of physics. Before the bang, space is flattened and filled with a smooth distribution of energy resulting from the decay of dark energy. A the bang, some of this energy is transformed into smoothly distributed matter and radiation at a very high temperature , high enough to evaporate ordinary matter into its constituent quarks and electrons and to produce many other exotic particles through high-energy collisions. But from [I]before to after the bang, the fabric of space remains intact, the energy density is always finite, and time proceeds smoothly.

THE RADIATION-DOMINATED EPOCH:

Since the bang creates a flat, smooth radiation-dominated universe, there is no need for an intervening inflationary epoch. Below a temperature of 10 (to power of 20) degrees, there is no major difference between the radiation-epoch in the cyclic model and that in the inflationary model. Just as in the inflationary case, slight differences in the properties of matter and antimatter particles lead to a tiny excess of matter over antimatter in the hot plasma. As the universe cools, anitmatter particles and matter particles collide and annihilate each other, leaving only the small excess of matter particles amid a sea of radiation. A millionth of a second after the bang, the leftover quarks combine to form protons and neutrons. At around the one-second mark, they then fuse to form the nuclei of helium and other light elements.

THE MATTER-DOMINATED EPOCH: Just as the inflationary model, at 75,000 years after the bang, matter takes over as the dominant form of energy. The first atoms form 380,000 years after the bang. The universe becomes transparent. Matter draws together under the influence of gravity to form galaxies. The epoch ends after about 9 billion years.

THE DARK ENERGY-DOMINATED EPOCH: In the cyclic story, dark energy is the lead character. Once matter and radiation are diluted away and dark energy becomes dominant, the expansion of the universe accelerates. The concentration of galaxies, stars, dust, molecules, and atoms--everything created since the last bang--thins out dramatically and the universe approaches an empty, uniform state with few traces remaining from any previous cycles of cosmic evolution.

THE CONTRACTION EPOCH: In the cyclic model, accelerated expansion does not continue forever; if it did, a cycle would never end. A key assumption in the cyclic model is that dark energy can decay:after a period of perhaps a trillion years, the physical properties of dark energy undergo a transformation that causes the expansion to slow down and eventually halt, leading to a phase of very gentle contraction. Once one accepts that the dark energy can slowly and smoothly decay, many interesting consequences follow.

The transformation of dark energy during the course of each cycle is similar to what happens to the energy in a spring that is stretched and then released. Shortly after the big bang, the dark energy exists mostly as "potential" energy, like the energy stored in a stretched spring. Its energy density is initially very small, negligible compared to that of matter and radiation. But whereas the density of matter and radiation are diluted away as the universe expands, the dark energy remains nealry constant. When dark energy eventually overtakes matter and radiation, it is still primarily in this potential energy form, whose gravitational effect is to speed the expansion of the universe. But after a trillion years or so, the dark energy undergoes a change, similar to that in a stretched spring when its ends are released. The dark energy turns into a mixture of potential and kinetic energy. At the same time, its gravitational effect on space reverses. The expansion of the universe slows down, and eventually switches in gentle contraction. And then the dark energy acquires the properties of gas with very high pressure, which causes it to spread itself uniformly across space. This remarkable transformation turns out to solve many of the cosmological puzzles above.

At the start of the contraction phase, the dark energy density is very low, equal to the value observed today. Once the contraction begins, the energy density rises rapidly and gravitational energy, the energy stored in the gravitational field, is converted into the new high-pressure form of dark energy. This form of dark energy builds up in density much faster than other forms energy or the curvature of space. As it dominates, it ensures that the universe remains smooth and flat as the contraction continues.

BIG CRUNCH: Finally, the contraction reaches a "big crunch." Some of the high-pressure form of dark energy is suddenly converted into hot matter radiation, and the universe begins to expand. The crunch has turned into a bang. Because the universe was smooth and flat before the bang, it remains smooth and flat after it.

...

When the cyclic model's contraction epoch is over and the universe has emerged into a new, hot expanding phase, it has all the attributes it had in the big bang epoch one cycle earlier: it is very smooth and very flat but also has slight, scale-invariant density variations. As the next cycle proceeds, the behaviour will repeat. Every cycle is different in fine details because the quantum jumps are random and governed by the laws of chance. However, the average properties of the universe will be the same. In particular, created anew will be galaxies, stars, and planets like Earth on which intelligent forms of life may develop.

Cato
03-04-2011, 05:42 PM
As an alternative to the Big Bang, I like plasma cosmology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_cosmology

A cryptic statement by the pre-Socratic Greek philosopher, Heraklitos, translates (into English) as "The thunderbolt/lightning rules all things." Who was the wielder of the cosmic thunderbolt? Zeus (aka God, the divine orderer, in the English language).

Followers of plasma cosmology/electric universe theory often liken plasma to a sort of cosmic lightning or cosmic fire. :confused: In the Bible, lightning is referred to as "the fire of God" and the Greek philosophers who considered the aether to be the source of the other elements seem, to me, to be mixed as to what the aether actually was: a sort of fine, etherial fire, or a sort of fine etherial lightning (heat in both cases).

What did they know that we don't?

Anyways, this theory has long intrigued me.

Cato
03-04-2011, 05:47 PM
A cryptic statement by the pre-Socratic Greek philosopher, Heraklitos, translates (into English) as "The thunderbolt/lightning rules all things." Who was the wielder of the cosmic thunderbolt? Zeus (aka God, the divine orderer, in the English language).

Followers of plasma cosmology/electric universe theory often liken plasma to a sort of cosmic lightning or cosmic fire. :confused: In the Bible, lightning is referred to as "the fire of God" and the Greek philosophers who considered the aether to be the source of the other elements seem, to me, to be mixed as to what the aether actually was: a sort of fine, etherial fire, or a sort of fine etherial lightning (heat in both cases).

What did they know that we don't?

Anyways, this theory has long intrigued me.

Heat, motion, or energy.

So, the "cosmic fire/lightning" is better of being called a sort of self-generating cosmic power? The electric universe posits that there was no "Big Bang" but that the universe is composed of eternal, self-generating matter (the plasma), which periodically expands and contracts for lack of a better term (the same as in the Stoic theory of ekpyrosis- essentially Zeus eternally creates and re-creates himself).

The cool thing about plasma cosmology is is that it addresses such things as ball lightning (I've seen this with my own eyes, talk about amazing), wisps, so-called UFOs... Such scientific anomalies are a part of the electric universe as sort of geo-electric "bursts," I think, as the plasma interacts with the earth's magnetic field.

Cato
03-04-2011, 06:05 PM
http://www.jrank.org/space/pages/2326/ekpyrotic-Universe.html