Aromanian results

[Ylla]

Does anyone have results gedmatch or 23andme? I want to see if they are really close to us like people say

[Carpatz]

I'm curious as well. I've never seen any.

[MercifulServant]

M430242 Vlach
T104269 Vlach Bitola?
H827383 Vlach Bitola?


M430242
Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.02
2 West_Med 21.87
3 North_Atlantic 21.17
4 Baltic 16.35
5 West_Asian 11.19
6 Red_Sea 4.13


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 3.276439
2 Tuscan @ 9.292682
3 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.493012
4 Bulgarian @ 9.824978
5 Central_Greek @ 10.050969
6 West_Sicilian @ 10.104197
7 East_Sicilian @ 11.187626
8 Romanian @ 11.865022
9 North_Italian @ 13.625366
10 Ashkenazi @ 14.309993
11 South_Italian @ 14.413995
12 Serbian @ 16.406748
13 Algerian_Jewish @ 20.786137
14 Italian_Jewish @ 20.870052
15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 21.006218
16 Portuguese @ 22.820032
17 Spanish_Extremadura @ 23.107140
18 Moldavian @ 23.481903
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 23.956583
20 Spanish_Andalucia @ 24.470901

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.073436


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% South_Italian +25% Tuscan @ 1.955132


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 1.810398
2 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 1.877143
3 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 1.899047
4 Algerian_Jewish + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + North_Italian @ 1.932378
5 Central_Greek + Croatian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.941572
6 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.955132
7 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 2.055792
8 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + West_Sicilian + West_Sicilian @ 2.073436
9 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Southwest_French @ 2.078463
10 Croatian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 2.078480
11 Central_Greek + East_Sicilian + Moldavian + Tuscan @ 2.083986
12 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 2.090999
13 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Romanian + Tuscan @ 2.091534
14 Central_Greek + Croatian + West_Sicilian + West_Sicilian @ 2.112457
15 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Samaritan + Southwest_French @ 2.114344
16 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Croatian + North_Italian @ 2.118917
17 Cyprian + North_Italian + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 2.124988
18 Central_Greek + Croatian + East_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 2.125291
19 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Moldavian + Tuscan @ 2.125926
20 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Moldavian + North_Italian @ 2.126534

Done.

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[Carpatz]

M430242 Vlach
T104269 Vlach Bitola?
H827383 Vlach Bitola?


M430242
Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.02
2 West_Med 21.87
3 North_Atlantic 21.17
4 Baltic 16.35
5 West_Asian 11.19
6 Red_Sea 4.13


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 3.276439
2 Tuscan @ 9.292682
3 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.493012
4 Bulgarian @ 9.824978
5 Central_Greek @ 10.050969
6 West_Sicilian @ 10.104197
7 East_Sicilian @ 11.187626
8 Romanian @ 11.865022
9 North_Italian @ 13.625366
10 Ashkenazi @ 14.309993
11 South_Italian @ 14.413995
12 Serbian @ 16.406748
13 Algerian_Jewish @ 20.786137
14 Italian_Jewish @ 20.870052
15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 21.006218
16 Portuguese @ 22.820032
17 Spanish_Extremadura @ 23.107140
18 Moldavian @ 23.481903
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 23.956583
20 Spanish_Andalucia @ 24.470901

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.073436


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% South_Italian +25% Tuscan @ 1.955132


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 1.810398
2 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 1.877143
3 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 1.899047
4 Algerian_Jewish + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + North_Italian @ 1.932378
5 Central_Greek + Croatian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.941572
6 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.955132
7 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 2.055792
8 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + West_Sicilian + West_Sicilian @ 2.073436
9 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Southwest_French @ 2.078463
10 Croatian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 2.078480
11 Central_Greek + East_Sicilian + Moldavian + Tuscan @ 2.083986
12 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 2.090999
13 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Romanian + Tuscan @ 2.091534
14 Central_Greek + Croatian + West_Sicilian + West_Sicilian @ 2.112457
15 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Samaritan + Southwest_French @ 2.114344
16 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Croatian + North_Italian @ 2.118917
17 Cyprian + North_Italian + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 2.124988
18 Central_Greek + Croatian + East_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 2.125291
19 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Moldavian + Tuscan @ 2.125926
20 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Moldavian + North_Italian @ 2.126534

Done.

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The second kit won't work. The third kit is way different from the first one.


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 22.21
2 West_Med 20.33
3 Baltic 19.88
4 East_Med 19.73
5 West_Asian 11.84
6 Red_Sea 4.68
7 Oceanian 0.67
8 East_Asian 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.1
2 Romanian 6.22
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.63
4 Serbian 9.98
5 Tuscan 11.39
6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.27
7 North_Italian 12.77
8 Central_Greek 13.04
9 West_Sicilian 13.62
10 East_Sicilian 14.21
11 Moldavian 15.89
12 Ashkenazi 16.78
13 South_Italian 17.23
14 Hungarian 18.15
15 Croatian 18.76
16 Portuguese 19.3
17 Spanish_Extremadura 19.89
18 Austrian 19.91
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.93
20 French 20.54

[MercifulServant]

The second kit won't work. The third kit is way different from the first one.


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 22.21
2 West_Med 20.33
3 Baltic 19.88
4 East_Med 19.73
5 West_Asian 11.84
6 Red_Sea 4.68
7 Oceanian 0.67
8 East_Asian 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.1
2 Romanian 6.22
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.63
4 Serbian 9.98
5 Tuscan 11.39
6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.27
7 North_Italian 12.77
8 Central_Greek 13.04
9 West_Sicilian 13.62
10 East_Sicilian 14.21
11 Moldavian 15.89
12 Ashkenazi 16.78
13 South_Italian 17.23
14 Hungarian 18.15
15 Croatian 18.76
16 Portuguese 19.3
17 Spanish_Extremadura 19.89
18 Austrian 19.91
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.93
20 French 20.54

I guess vlachs are genetically diverse then? I got the kits from a user who posted on a different Aromanian DNA thread

[nightrider+]

The second kit won't work. The third kit is way different from the first one.


Is this your idea of way different? They are very very close. The third is just a tiny bit more Slav shifted.

[Wrong]

Obvious Slav-admixture as expected. Both results look like mine, except they got more Baltic & Red Sea, but less North Atlantic.

[Ylla]

M430242 Vlach
T104269 Vlach Bitola?
H827383 Vlach Bitola?


M430242
Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.02
2 West_Med 21.87
3 North_Atlantic 21.17
4 Baltic 16.35
5 West_Asian 11.19
6 Red_Sea 4.13


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 3.276439
2 Tuscan @ 9.292682
3 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.493012
4 Bulgarian @ 9.824978
5 Central_Greek @ 10.050969
6 West_Sicilian @ 10.104197
7 East_Sicilian @ 11.187626
8 Romanian @ 11.865022
9 North_Italian @ 13.625366
10 Ashkenazi @ 14.309993
11 South_Italian @ 14.413995
12 Serbian @ 16.406748
13 Algerian_Jewish @ 20.786137
14 Italian_Jewish @ 20.870052
15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 21.006218
16 Portuguese @ 22.820032
17 Spanish_Extremadura @ 23.107140
18 Moldavian @ 23.481903
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 23.956583
20 Spanish_Andalucia @ 24.470901

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.073436


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% South_Italian +25% Tuscan @ 1.955132


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 1.810398
2 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 1.877143
3 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 1.899047
4 Algerian_Jewish + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + North_Italian @ 1.932378
5 Central_Greek + Croatian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.941572
6 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.955132
7 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 2.055792
8 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + West_Sicilian + West_Sicilian @ 2.073436
9 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Southwest_French @ 2.078463
10 Croatian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 2.078480
11 Central_Greek + East_Sicilian + Moldavian + Tuscan @ 2.083986
12 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 2.090999
13 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Romanian + Tuscan @ 2.091534
14 Central_Greek + Croatian + West_Sicilian + West_Sicilian @ 2.112457
15 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Samaritan + Southwest_French @ 2.114344
16 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Croatian + North_Italian @ 2.118917
17 Cyprian + North_Italian + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 2.124988
18 Central_Greek + Croatian + East_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 2.125291
19 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Moldavian + Tuscan @ 2.125926
20 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Moldavian + North_Italian @ 2.126534

Done.

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wow thats pretty cool, M430242 is almost identical to me

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I score less Baltic then Vlach of Manastir but score higher North Atlantic than two results I see.

[ovidiu]

Of course. They are probably influenced by each of the peoples they live around. They may have once been a somewhat more homogenous people a thousand years ago, but these developments are normal.

[vasiliki23]

M430242 Vlach
T104269 Vlach Bitola?
H827383 Vlach Bitola?


M430242
Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.02
2 West_Med 21.87
3 North_Atlantic 21.17
4 Baltic 16.35
5 West_Asian 11.19
6 Red_Sea 4.13


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 3.276439
2 Tuscan @ 9.292682
3 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.493012
4 Bulgarian @ 9.824978
5 Central_Greek @ 10.050969
6 West_Sicilian @ 10.104197
7 East_Sicilian @ 11.187626
8 Romanian @ 11.865022
9 North_Italian @ 13.625366
10 Ashkenazi @ 14.309993
11 South_Italian @ 14.413995
12 Serbian @ 16.406748
13 Algerian_Jewish @ 20.786137
14 Italian_Jewish @ 20.870052
15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 21.006218
16 Portuguese @ 22.820032
17 Spanish_Extremadura @ 23.107140
18 Moldavian @ 23.481903
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 23.956583
20 Spanish_Andalucia @ 24.470901

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.073436


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% South_Italian +25% Tuscan @ 1.955132


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 1.810398
2 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 1.877143
3 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 1.899047
4 Algerian_Jewish + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + North_Italian @ 1.932378
5 Central_Greek + Croatian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.941572
6 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.955132
7 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 2.055792
8 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + West_Sicilian + West_Sicilian @ 2.073436
9 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Southwest_French @ 2.078463
10 Croatian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 2.078480
11 Central_Greek + East_Sicilian + Moldavian + Tuscan @ 2.083986
12 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 2.090999
13 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Romanian + Tuscan @ 2.091534
14 Central_Greek + Croatian + West_Sicilian + West_Sicilian @ 2.112457
15 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Samaritan + Southwest_French @ 2.114344
16 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Croatian + North_Italian @ 2.118917
17 Cyprian + North_Italian + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 2.124988
18 Central_Greek + Croatian + East_Sicilian + Tuscan @ 2.125291
19 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Moldavian + Tuscan @ 2.125926
20 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Moldavian + North_Italian @ 2.126534

Done.

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Hi I'm new to this site, was searching for any threads mentioning Vlachs. I am Greek, my mother's parents both from the same Vlach village. I ran the one to one on these kit #'s and have this small match with M430242 so wanted to share here :)
Largest segment = 15.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 15.6cM (0.435 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 4.9
1 shared segments found for this comparison.
97840 SNPs used for this comparison.
52.954 Pct SNPs are full identical
Comparison took 0.197