R1a-Z280-CTS3402-YP951 from China

[lndy0430]

Hello everyone! I am a Han Chinese, but my Y-DNA is YP951-YP4532.
I have joined YFULL, my ID is ETL50012, I don't have the right place now, I have to wait for the update :)
What do you think about this? And does anyone knows more about YP4530&YP4532?Thank you!

[Jana]

Hello everyone! I am a Han Chinese, but my Y-DNA is YP951-YP4532.
I have joined YFULL, my ID is ETL50012, I don't have the right place now, I have to wait for the update :)
What do you think about this? And does anyone knows more about YP4530&YP4532?Thank you!

Hello and welcome ! How come you have European R1a mutation ? Eupedia:


R1a-Z280 is associated with the Baltic-speaking people and its descendant subclade CTS3402 is mainly found in the Dinaric Alps spanning from Albania to Serbia, especially among the Croats. R1a-CTS3402 has high frequencies in Croatia and Southern Poland and CTS3402 may be linked to the Slavic expansion to the Balkans.

[Catarinense1998]

Hello everyone! I am a Han Chinese, but my Y-DNA is YP951-YP4532.
I have joined YFULL, my ID is ETL50012, I don't have the right place now, I have to wait for the update :)
What do you think about this? And does anyone knows more about YP4530&YP4532?Thank you!

Ask here: If you are a chinese, how you are using the forum and the internet in China?I'm intrigued here.

[Thracian]

Wow. Our Y-DNA is same. It is Slavic one. I guess you have a European ancestor.

[Leto]

Incredible. You're not even Z93 which would still be very unusual for a fully Mongoloid East Asian person. Do you know your autosomal DNA results?

[Leto]

Wow. Our Y-DNA is same. It is Slavic one. I guess you have a European ancestor.
The Aryan gods of the Tarim Basin.

[lndy0430]

Thank you for your information.I don’t know because I don’t have a family tree...

[lndy0430]

I'm glad to talk to you. Yes, I agree that my ancestors were Slavic.

[Jana]

The Aryan gods of the Tarim Basin.

What Aryan Gods if his R1a subclade is most common in dinaric alps ?

[lndy0430]

Yes I know.I am 99.59% north Han

[lndy0430]

My mobile phone has 4G network, and the school network is 50M broadband.

[Leto]

What Aryan Gods if his R1a subclade is most common in dinaric alps ?
That's extremely weird. Is that subclade common among the East Slavs and Balts?

[Jana]

That's extremely weird. Is that subclade common among the East Slavs and Balts?

Nope. But it exist among Poles (especially in the south) it seems.

[lndy0430]

It seems that YP4530 and YP4532 are located in the southeastern Poland and Western Ukraine (like in Galicia)

[Peterski]

Hello everyone! I am a Han Chinese, but my Y-DNA is YP951-YP4532.
I have joined YFULL, my ID is ETL50012, I don't have the right place now, I have to wait for the update :)
What do you think about this? And does anyone knows more about YP4530&YP4532?Thank you!

Maybe you are descended from this guy?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_of_Poland

BTW, here is another very similar case:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-FGC66325/

[lndy0430]

Maybe you are descended from this guy?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_of_Poland

BTW, here is another very similar case:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-FGC66325/

Isn’t he is a Franciscan friar?And I am not the guy who belong to FGC66325...I am the top one in this pic.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180413/158ea2434d2cb0a776f8b2282c1d5fb1.jpg


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[Bobby Martnen]

Maybe your great-great-great-great-grandpa was White?

Do you actually live in China, or are you a Chinese-American?

[lndy0430]

Maybe your great-great-great-great-grandpa was White?

Do you actually live in China, or are you a Chinese-American?

Before I tested dna, I only knew that my family was a native Han nationality. I live in China and my family is in Central China (Luoyang, Henan province)


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[Leto]

Yes I know.I am 99.59% north Han
What test is that?

[lndy0430]

What test is that?

Autosomal test, I was in wegene did that test.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/9a01e2f676e9944901cf98054937278d.jpg


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[Freeroostah]

It could be from a Russian since Northern China became a Russian sphere of influence for many years.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Chinese Slav. Impressive!

[EdwardS]

My friend has R1a-y5977! He is Bashkir by origin. His name on the apricity scartem!

[Sacrificed Ram]

Ask here: If you are a chinese, how you are using the forum and the internet in China?I'm intrigued here.


My mobile phone has 4G network, and the school network is 50M broadband.

Shoryuken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dick]

Isn’t he is a Franciscan friar?And I am not the guy who belong to FGC66325...I am the top one in this pic.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180413/158ea2434d2cb0a776f8b2282c1d5fb1.jpg


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You descend from the first R1a man. Congrats

[Carpatz]

We share the same y-dna and the same subclade up to cts3402. Very interesting since it looks like you are almost fully Mongoloid. Have you tried exporting your raw data to gedmatch? It's possible that you may have some European ancestry that Wegene didn't detect.

[Sacrificed Ram]

There are native R1a in central China, but they tend to be very basal, not european specific, I think.

[lndy0430]

There are native R1a in central China, but they tend to be very basal, not european specific, I think.

Most Chinese R1a are R1a-Z93, and Z283 almost none

[lndy0430]

We share the same y-dna and the same subclade up to cts3402. Very interesting since it looks like you are almost fully Mongoloid. Have you tried exporting your raw data to gedmatch? It's possible that you may have some European ancestry that Wegene didn't detect.


I've exported it to Gedmatch. But almost no European ingredients, my ID is W956728 and you can view it, plz.

[lndy0430]

My friend has R1a-y5977! He is Bashkir by origin. His name on the apricity scartem!

He seems to belong to Z93, which is not too rare in China. But what does apricity scartem mean?

[lndy0430]

Chinese Slav. Impressive!

..Yep.

[lndy0430]

It could be from a Russian since Northern China became a Russian sphere of influence for many years.

I think my ancestors probably entered China through the Empire of Mongolia. Russia? If in modern, maybe my autosomal will also be reflected.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

R1a evolved in central asia thousands of years ago likely from eurasians and you probably have a subclade that went east instead.
R1a in europeans is likely from central asian invaders

[EdwardS]

He seems to belong to Z93, which is not too rare in China. But what does apricity scartem mean?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?239601-Where-can-he-pass&p=5050313#post5050313

[lndy0430]

R1a evolved in central asia thousands of years ago likely from eurasians and you probably have a subclade that went east instead.
R1a in europeans is likely from central asian invaders

But YP951 is a typical European branch...

[lndy0430]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?239601-Where-can-he-pass&p=5050313#post5050313

I saw him. Looks very "Slav" :cool:

[Massagetae]

R1a European.

Hahahahahahahah

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[gültekin]

Hello everyone! I am a Han Chinese, but my Y-DNA is YP951-YP4532.
I have joined YFULL, my ID is ETL50012, I don't have the right place now, I have to wait for the update :)
What do you think about this? And does anyone knows more about YP4530&YP4532?Thank you!
You are the father of this painfull polaks, planted your seeds to their mothers during mongol conquest

[Pahli]

Either from Steppe nomads or more recently from Russians

[MercifulServant]

Very interesting

[zhaoyun]

Welcome! I'm Chinese American. But some of my family is originally from Henan as well.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

But YP951 is a typical European branch...Maybe a central asian invader had many descendants? R1a is a very old haplogroup. At some time from central asia it moved around.
Do you have european autosomal dna?

[zhaoyun]

Ask here: If you are a chinese, how you are using the forum and the internet in China?I'm intrigued here.

Most Western websites are not blocked in China. Just a few of the major social media sites.

BTW, China has some of the largest internet companies in the world that rival the ones in Silicon Valley. A lot of their internet usage is more advanced than the West, for example, people pay with everything using their smartphones nowadays through Alipay or Wechat.

[lndy0430]

Welcome! I'm Chinese American. But some of my family is originally from Henan as well.

Thank you Zhaoyun. Nice to meet you:)

[lndy0430]

Maybe a central asian invader had many descendants? R1a is a very old haplogroup. At some time from central asia it moved around.
Do you have european autosomal dna?

Because the number of R1a-Z283 in China is too small (maybe less than 1/10000), so I believe China's R1a entry into China is very short :)

[Vlatko Vukovic]

R1a European.

Hahahahahahahah

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Hahahahahahahahahaahahahah

Even he admit that probably have some European ancestry.

[Jana]

R1a European.

Hahahahahahahah

Hahahahahahahahahaha

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Which part about the fact his subclade only exist among dinaric Slavs (Croats mostly) and southern Poles you didn't get ?

This type of R1a doesn't exist in Asia.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Which part about the fact his subclade only exist among dinaric Slavs (Croats mostly) and southern Poles you didn't get ?

This type of R1a doesn't exist in Asia.

Even the biggest pan-Turanist in internet world, Kipchak Hakan deal with fact that Balto-Slavic Z280 surely have no connections with Asia.

[lndy0430]

Even he admit that probably have some European ancestry.

My autosomal shows that I am a typical Chinese Han nationality. But my ancestors came from Europe and I am from East Asia. They do not conflict.

[Dick]

Which part about the fact his subclade only exist among dinaric Slavs (Croats mostly) and southern Poles you didn't get ?

This type of R1a doesn't exist in Asia.

a lot of ex-Yugoslav soccer players went to China to play or coach

[Jana]

According to Eupedia this particular subclade is connected with White Croat expansion (southern Poland/Western Ukraine to dinaric alps).

0% Turkic.

[lndy0430]

Accordint to Eurpaid this particular subclade is connected with WHite Croat expansion (southern Poland/Western Ukraine to dinaric alps).

0% Turkic.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/be602f361fc01d5fe25639fd24bb3e84.jpg I think you are right :)



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[Harkonnen]

According to Eupedia this particular subclade is connected with White Croat expansion (southern Poland/Western Ukraine to dinaric alps).

0% Turkic.

I wouldn't trust Eupedia. It could very well be Turkic.

[Sacrificed Ram]

a lot of ex-Yugoslav soccer players went to China to play or coach

Bizarre but or is it or there is an error.

[Thracian]

BTW, more than 10 years ago I watched a documentary about Chinese Mummies on Discovery channel. These people were White. They could be your ancestors. Maybe you can find thr documentary.

[Massagetae]

Which part about the fact his subclade only exist among dinaric Slavs (Croats mostly) and southern Poles you didn't get ?

This type of R1a doesn't exist in Asia.


P, Q, R, --> All originally Mongoloid.

https://s17.postimg.cc/ki40vdi0v/LMAO.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Massagetae]

https://s17.postimg.cc/mnybpeg73/chimpolina.jpg (https://postimages.org/)picture share (https://postimages.org/)

[lndy0430]

P, Q, R, --> All originally Mongoloid.

https://s17.postimg.cc/ki40vdi0v/LMAO.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180415/16a0c93ae6999b60b1f39ac1ef809272.jpg7433374334

Let me tell you why my value YP951 more than P, R. Why don't you just count, if my ancestors really came to China earlier than 5 thousand or 6 thousand years ago even more, how many of his descendants might be? And now? Even less than 0.01%!?



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[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Because the number of R1a-Z283 in China is too small (maybe less than 1/10000), so I believe China's R1a entry into China is very short :)

How far can you trace your paternal line. If you havnt done geneology, and its recent like a 3x great grandfather from europe or something, it would make alot of sense. Europeans did colonize china before not too long ago in history.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

According to Eupedia this particular subclade is connected with White Croat expansion (southern Poland/Western Ukraine to dinaric alps).

0% Turkic.Dont believe eupedia for everything. You have to go into actual dna projects and talk to the admins and follow their updates.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Nvm i see your r1a is basal subclade. That formed and and a basal offshoot. So yea it looks like thousand of years you had a central asian ancestor.says formed tmrca estimated 2900-2100 years ago. So anywhere from 900bc - 0 A.D. Your paternal line migrated or was forced to asia or china at that time.

You are kind of like me. Mine is rare. But mine goes farther back about 5700 years ago it split. My paternal ancestors nation or tribe was probably driven out and destroyed at that time with very few survivors having descendants. Your paternal ancestor probably suffered the same fate

[lndy0430]

Nvm i see your r1a is basal subclade. That formed and and a basal offshoot. So yea it looks like thousand of years you had a central asian ancestor.says formed tmrca estimated 2900-2100 years ago. So anywhere from 900bc - 0 A.D. Your paternal line migrated or was forced to asia or china at that time.

You are kind of like me. Mine is rare. But mine goes farther back about 5700 years ago it split. My paternal ancestors nation or tribe was probably driven out and destroyed at that time with very few survivors having descendants. Your paternal ancestor probably suffered the same fate

In fact, I'm YP4532*, TMRCA is about 1700.


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[Sacrificed Ram]

I can trace my direct paternal line till 1711 in Portugal, but there are two questions:

1 - Was someone adopted?

2 - Could some woman cheat someone?

No one can say is child of someone without DNA test, but even the test is 99,9%.

[lndy0430]

I can trace my direct paternal line till 1711 in Portugal, but there are two questions:

1 - Was someone adopted?

2 - Could some woman cheat someone?

No one can say is child of someone without DNA test, but even the test is 99,9%.

It's too complicated to take these things into consideration.


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[Ülev]

Is coronavirus anti-R1a ? :rolleyes: