Exposing the nordicist lie.There is virtually no difference between North and South.

[Voskos]

With the exception of med islanders for whom it is fair to assume they received some extraeuropean population flows especially during the Roman era/early middle ages, most legitimate scientific studies always come up with the same conclusion , over and over:

Mainland europeans' ''genetic admixture'' is a combination of the same main components, the only difference being the ratios of the said components in a given population.In order to better illustrate this, I'm gonna post a figure from Haak et al study(scientific journal ''Nature''):

http://www.norwegianamerican.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/HaakEtAlpage23Crop.jpg


Now, of course, you're gonna ask yourself, why , on amateurish armchair calculators,do southerners score things like ''East Med'', ''West Asian'' etc. They don't really sound that European, do they?Well, the answer is simpler than you might imagine.

For one, the appelations of the above components do not really correspond to the place where they originated.Another problem is they aren't real components but rather components that the author of the calc
decided to create by feeding it with the necessary data.And last but not least, when you score eg 50%North+50%South and a scandinavian scores 100%North, it doesn't mean that Scandos don't have any southern genes, but rather that you have an extra amount of the latter compared to them.In other words, the scores of these calcs are relative and not absolute, and they have no real scientific value whatsoever.

All that having been said, anyone is free to believe the pseudoscience posted by bloggers and nordic/slavic supremacists, as long as it makes them feel special.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/56351574/brace-yourselves-here-come-the-north-vs-south-snow-memes.jpg

[Teutonski]

All that having been said, anyone is free to believe the pseudoscience posted by bloggers and nordic/slavic supremacists, as long as it makes them feel special.


Nordic and slavic supremacists hate eachother but they could be good buddies, because they both missing alot of neurons.

[JQP4545]

This test only has three comparison panels (LBK, Loschbour, and Yamnaya). The reality is that the genome of modern Europeans is composed of far more groups. Western hunter gatherers, Scandinavian hunter gatherers and Eastern European hunter gatherers were highly differentiated as were many of the farming groups. The LBK samples are closer to Balkan farmers and differ from the Mediterranean farmers that composed a larger fraction of DNA in Iberia. The test lacks the late Neolithic migration of Iranian-like peoples who contributed to the genome of people from the Balkans and Italy and brought y-haplogroup J to Europe. There is also a possibility of a North African or Levantine migration that brought y-haplogroup E1b1b to Europe. Contributions from North Africa and the Near East during the Roman Era and Islamic rule of Iberia and Italy are not accounted for in these studies. The Finno-Urgic migrations that brought Siberian-like DNA to Eastern Europe are not in this paper.

[JQP4545]

Where nordicists are wrong is that people from the Middle East and Caucasus are white/caucasian. They just share more similarity with Neolithic Europeans than the earlier hunting groups.

[Hulu]

Why don't Spanish have western Whg? But they have yamnaya. Late comers in Europe? Tuscans as well.

[Aren]

This is what from 2015, before the discovery of CHG and Anatolian farmers?

[alnortedelsur]

With the exception of med islanders for whom it is fair to assume they received some extraeuropean population flows especially during the Roman era/early middle ages, most legitimate scientific studies always come up with the same conclusion , over and over:

Mainland europeans' ''genetic admixture'' is a combination of the same main components, the only difference being the ratios of the said components in a given population.In order to better illustrate this, I'm gonna post a figure from Haak et al study(scientific journal ''Nature''):

http://www.norwegianamerican.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/HaakEtAlpage23Crop.jpg


Now, of course, you're gonna ask yourself, why , on amateurish armchair calculators,do southerners score things like ''East Med'', ''West Asian'' etc. They don't really sound that European, do they?Well, the answer is simpler than you might imagine.

For one, the appelations of the above components do not really correspond to the place where they originated.Another problem is they aren't real components but rather components that the author of the calc
decided to create by feeding it with the necessary data.And last but not least, when you score eg 50%North+50%South and a scandinavian scores 100%North, it doesn't mean that Scandos don't have any southern genes, but rather that you have an extra amount of the latter compared to them.In other words, the scores of these calcs are relative and not absolute, and they have no real scientific value whatsoever.

All that having been said, anyone is free to believe the pseudoscience posted by bloggers and nordic/slavic supremacists, as long as it makes them feel special.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/56351574/brace-yourselves-here-come-the-north-vs-south-snow-memes.jpg

Agree with most of what you say, but regarding Med Islanders, I don't know much about how "outliers" are Sicilians or Greek Islanders, but Balearic Islanders are not outliers from Europe. They are well into the Iberian cluster, and well into Europe in their overall genetic admixture, just like the rest of Spaniards.

[Voskos]

Why don't Spanish have western Whg? But they have yamnaya. Late comers in Europe? Tuscans as well.

Their WHG must have been totally diluted by farmers.

[Wrong]

Their WHG must have been totally diluted by farmers.
Yeah. LBK_EN was already 25-30% WHG-like.

https://media.nature.com/lw926/nature-assets/ncomms/2017/170303/ncomms14615/images/ncomms14615-f7.jpg

[Hulu]

Their WHG must have been totally diluted by farmers.

So early comers?

[Wrong]

OP chart is simply the proof that Farmers dominated most of Europe. Only in the sparsely-populated north, the others took refugee in forests, tunnels and caves.

[Oneeye]

The duck is this shit

[Voskos]

So early comers?

Farmers arrived later than WHG but earlier than Yamnaya.

[Percivalle]

Their WHG must have been totally diluted by farmers.

More hidden than diluted, LBK_EN was already 1/3 or 1/4 WHG.

[Insuperable]

With such a low number of components/population references algorithm will find the best fit regardless of everything.

[Voskos]

With such a low number of components/population references algorithm will find the best fit regardless of everything.

they tested with extra bedouin/siberian and only extreme outliers got better fits(sicily-malta-spain except spanish north-finland).

[Bellbeaking]

outdated study now, we could do with another one like this with more recent populations that have been discovered.

[Dna8]

Re: Racial supremacy

It's like someone who plays Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition claiming that those partial to version 3.5 are subhumans..

[Bellbeaking]

There is no way Scotland has Double the WHG than england. The British Isles people barely show any difference on G25 deep ancestry matches. all 47-49% Yamnaya.

If scotland had 2x the WHG than england they would not plot next door on a PCA lmao i was like lmao

[Golden Lining]

The mixture makes the quality of the cocktail and the mix they serve South of Alps is simply not palatable.

[Dorian]

The mixture makes the quality of the cocktail and the mix they serve South of Alps is simply not palatable.

While you theorize about "cocktails" ,your girls wait&work for summer to come to drink real cocktails(or cock-tails) and get their kids more farmerized :laugh: ..

[Golden Lining]

While you theorize about "cocktails" ,your girls wait&work for summer to come to drink real cocktails(or cock-tails) and get their kids more farmerized :laugh: ..

Except that this doesn't even happen, LOL. Nobody likes hairy, unemployed dwarves, not even your own women. LOL.

[Leto]

The mixture makes the quality of the cocktail and the mix they serve South of Alps is simply not palatable.
What about us Slavs? In particular those in the East (not Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes).

[Golden Lining]

What about us Slavs? In particular those in the East (not Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes).

I'm kinda Slavic myself :cool:

Slavs are good people, but they have been fucked over in the last 100 years.

[Cristiano viejo]

The mixture makes the quality of the cocktail and the mix they serve South of Alps is simply not palatable.

Perhaps you prefer this cocktail
http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-892730-860_poster_16x9-bnfm-892730.jpg

[Leto]

I'm kinda Slavic myself :cool:

Slavs are good people, but they have been fucked over in the last 100 years.
Leaving politics aside, whites in Germany (I am talking about Europeans in Germany, not Turks, Arabs, etc.) are increasingly becoming more Eastern European. First Bohemian and Silesian refugees after WWII, then Aussiedler from the former SU (many of whom were mixed with Russians and/or had Russian spouses), also a lot of Polish, Croatian, Serbian, Romanian immigrants who are gradually assimilating and interbreeding with Germans. And we're talking about millions of people, not just small groups. Between 1990 and 2015 1.5 million Aussiedler came from Russia and Kazakhstan only.
And by the way, there are many Italians and Iberians in Germany as well.

[Golden Lining]

Perhaps you prefer this cocktail
http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-892730-860_poster_16x9-bnfm-892730.jpg

:bored:


Leaving politics aside, whites in Germany (I am talking about Europeans in Germany, not Turks, Arabs, etc.) are increasingly becoming more Eastern European. First Bohemian and Silesian refugees after WWII, then Aussiedler from the former SU (many of whom were mixed with Russians and/or had Russian spouses), also a lot of Polish, Croatian, Serbian, Romanian immigrants who are gradually assimilating and interbreeding with Germans. And we're talking about millions of people, not just small groups. Between 1990 and 2015 1.5 million Aussiedler came from Russia and Kazakhstan only.

That's obvious. First of all, lower class people procreate faster and more and that's where most Slavic genes are found in Germany. Then, there is are no boundaries between expelled Germans from the East and the "Western" ones in the marriage markets so virtually all of them have been "assimilated" in their new home areas. And then, there are also lots of Slavic women that face no pressure from their families when they get involved with German men, on the contrary, this is strongly encouraged.



And by the way, there are many Italians and Iberians in Germany as well.

Yes, but they are low in economic status. Slavic programmers thrive under German leadership, but Spaniards, e.g. are either incompetent or too lazy. They do not show up for work regularly. That's a true story, BTW. Companies were very disappointed with Southerners that came here in the last 10 years.

[Leto]

Except that this doesn't even happen, LOL. Nobody likes hairy, unemployed dwarves, not even your own women. LOL.
There is indeed a few dickheads and retards from Southern Europe on this forum (not naming anyone) but this attitude is really not the way to go at the moment. Germany's problem or say Britain's, Sweden's, France's, is definitely not Southern Europeans, you would be living in a wonderland if the darkerst person in your country was from Italy or Greece. Not to mention that Southern Europe is currently experiencing just the same thing as Northern (demographic and cultural issues). These intra-European fighing may have had some meaning 100 years ago but most certainly not anymore.

[Leto]

First of all, lower class people procreate faster and more and that's where most Slavic genes are found in Germany.
Why do you think Slavic-shifted Germans or Europeans are lower class? And who cares anyway? Last time I checked Eastern Germany was much more conservative and right-wing than, say, NRW or Lower Saxony (I understand German quite well and tend to read news and also some 'dissident' stuff from Germany).

And then, there are also lots of Slavic women that face no pressure from their families when they get involved with German men, on the contrary, this is strongly encouraged.
You can't really blame more conservative and traditional Germans for seeking Slavic women as the percentage of cat ladies and purple-haired Green dykes is lower among them than among 'Western' women.

[Dorian]

Except that this doesn't even happen, LOL. Nobody likes hairy, unemployed dwarves, not even your own women. LOL.

double post

[Dorian]

Except that this doesn't even happen, LOL. Nobody likes hairy, unemployed dwarves, not even your own women. LOL.

Yeah nordicuck,a liberal "people"like yours go to other countries for vacations to fuck their own lol what planet do you live in?no their inhibitions are non-existent since they are far away from their social circle's eyes and they can enjoy the exotic dark&handsome meds they love ,if they TELL-YOU otherwise,guess what?they lie to keep the image of the "pure"angel-princess back to homecountry,don't listen to what they say watch what they do instead.
I know cases where they only needed some weed to freely give their asses :lol:

First of all we're 1,78 on average with one of the highest percentages of elders in Europe lowering it so dwarfs exist only in your schizophrenic imagination,second delusion: unemployed-lazy theory,the second has been disproven since we're one of the most hardworking people in Europe,come back to reality,as for the unemployment it doesn't say anything about quality of people since political interests are the chess game of the chosen ones,that's why almost half a million ambitious and not lazy young Greeks left Greece.
You need some redpill lessons,we're talking about raw-animal attraction to the alpha ,the nordic whore will feel it only with meds/negros/arabs ,the beta hubby of course must be an employed,shaved sjw metrosexual nordic "refugees welcome" type of man,the guilt of leaving the "tribe"(which subconsciously means death) overpowers their real animal attraction but not for any longer since sjws are getting stronger,at some point there won't be no guilt like there never was in history,cheers!enjoy the future e1b/j1 arabid/lighter negro +robust blue eyed CMs of your nation


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Jeremy_Meeks_Mug_Shot.jpg/220px-Jeremy_Meeks_Mug_Shot.jpg

[Golden Lining]

There is indeed a few dickheads and retards from Southern Europe on this forum (not naming anyone) but this attitude is really not the way to go at the moment. Germany's problem or say Britain's, Sweden's, France's, is definitely not Southern Europeans, you would be living in a wonderland if the darkerst person in your country was from Italy or Greece. Not to mention that Southern Europe is currently experiencing just the same thing as Northern (demographic and cultural issues). These intra-European fighing may have had some meaning 100 years ago but most certainly not anymore.

There is no economic hope for Greece, Southern Italy and Iberia. They are a burden that leeches away money and lifetime from Northern countries because of some retarded "dream of Europe". Even France is mostly smoke and mirrors, and virtually every Frenchman I have met is an arrogant dickhead. All this immigration and EU stuff has crept out of the same rotten woodwork.

[Golden Lining]

[...]

:picard2:

Dear board members, this is how you completely debase yourself.

[Leto]

There is no economic hope for Greece, Southern Italy and Iberia. They are a burden that leeches away money and lifetime from Northern countries because of some retarded "dream of Europe". Even France is mostly smoke and mirrors, and virtually every Frenchman I have met is an arrogant dickhead. All this immigration and EU stuff has crept out of the same rotten woodwork.
Dude, they're not the people the elites are changing the demographics of Northern Europe with. Wake the hell up. Ang-Allah didn't let in 1.5 million Iberians and Greeks in 2015. That was a goddamn army of Arabs, South Asians and Negroes.

[Golden Lining]

Dude, they're not the people the elites are changing the demographics of Northern Europe with. Wake the hell up. Ang-Allah didn't let in 1.5 million Iberians and Greeks in 2015. That was a goddamn army of Arabs, South Asians and Negroes.

Thanks, Captain Obvious. And to solve that problem we have to use everything we have and not give it to the useless Southern Europeans.

[Dorian]

:picard2:

Dear board members, this is how you completely debase yourself.

Ok I understand you've no arguments and you just have to minimize my character instead and not answer anything,whatever..just keep believing in fantasies if that makes you happy,the reality is above,that's how your 2-5gg-children will look like.

[Golden Lining]

Ok I understand you've no arguments and you just have to minimize my character instead and not answer anything,whatever..just keep believing in fantasies if that makes you happy,the reality is above,that's how your 2-5gg-children will look like.

Your raw alpha male Southern unemployed sexuality projecting through the screen made me so horny, I had to wank off.

[Dorian]

Your raw alpha male Southern unemployed sexuality projecting through the screen made me so horny, I had to wank off.

Not that surprising
https://www.dw.com/image/16046124_304.jpg

[Golden Lining]

Wow, time for the next round.

[Blondie]

:picard2:

Dear board members, this is how you completely debase yourself.

Dorian is a wog nationalist white hater troll from the most primitive and gayest dorian tribe:

"Perhaps this is how Greek homosexuality started, he said, with primitive tribes like the Dorians (cultural ancestors of the Spartans) in the second millennium BC using buggery to transmit manly essence into the younger members of the tribe, a quasi-magical ritual. "
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2007/nov/10/history.society

You should know the greek society and culture is the most important ally of LGBT community.

Greek gods were homos and bisexuals:
https://www.pride.com/gay/2016/9/10/20-greek-gods-who-had-same-sex-relationships

Just like greek warriors:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece
https://worldhistory.us/ancient-history/ancient-greece/were-the-spartans-gay-homosexuality-in-sparta-ancient-greece.php

LGBT pride is part of average greek life :)

[Dorian]

Dorian is a wog nationalist white hater troll from the most primitive and gayest dorian tribe:


You should know the greek society and culture is the most important ally of LGBT community.


LGBT pride is part of average greek life :)

I'll overlook the texts that you always spam but no ,how can I be a white hater&a nationalist?and I'm not wog so you don't make sense,even If I was it wouldn't change a thing since wogs are the real Europeans,it's no insult but a badge of honor unlike being a nordic which is a "rope".
WE the mediterranean race(along with the paleolithic Euros) Greco-Romans/Phoenicians-Egyptians(who looked like southern Euros before SSA-arabic admixture) are the real whites and forefathers of the "white" civilization you try to fit yourself into,the concept&etymology of Europe comes from Greeks.
North of mediterranean countries are the depigmented barbaric invaders from India and Siberia,we should let them get replaced by islamics and since islamics will destroy any infrastructure,it will be easier for us Greco-Romans to make it real European/White again like it should be without nordics and without islamics.

[Dorian]

Insallah!
https://i.postimg.cc/3wzLBt2P/Blank-Map-of-Europe.png (https://postimg.cc/2qFFjFcw)

[Cristiano viejo]

Not that surprising
https://www.dw.com/image/16046124_304.jpg

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/O7ucK2xOKlap2ZcpDwx7Lg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/3b5224d7e081a7fc074b10db705e14386a0191a2.jpg

[Dorian]

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/O7ucK2xOKlap2ZcpDwx7Lg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/3b5224d7e081a7fc074b10db705e14386a0191a2.jpg

https://media.tenor.com/images/f3ae55fbb4921259bdd6c2972261b52f/tenor.gif

[Insuperable]

The mixture makes the quality of the cocktail and the mix they serve South of Alps is simply not palatable.

https://i.postimg.cc/9FNyZrdk/tenor.gif

[Leto]

I'll overlook the texts that you always spam but no ,how can I be a white hater&a nationalist?and I'm not wog so you don't make sense,even If I was it wouldn't change a thing since wogs are the real Europeans,it's no insult but a badge of honor unlike being a nordic which is a "rope".
WE the mediterranean race(along with the paleolithic Euros) Greco-Romans/Phoenicians-Egyptians(who looked like southern Euros before SSA-arabic admixture) are the real whites and forefathers of the "white" civilization you try to fit yourself into,the concept&etymology of Europe comes from Greeks.
North of mediterranean countries are the depigmented barbaric invaders from India and Siberia,we should let them get replaced by islamics and since islamics will destroy any infrastructure,it will be easier for us Greco-Romans to make it real European/White again like it should be without nordics and without islamics.
You gotta be kidding. 80+ million Turkey (Islamics) would crush 10 million strong Greece easily. And you're talking as if Greece wasn't being overrun by Muzzrats. Last time I checked some islands turned into Afghanistan back in 2015.

[Dorian]

You gotta be kidding. 80+ million Turkey (Islamics) would crush 10 million strong Greece easily. And you're talking as if Greece wasn't being overrun by Muzzrats. Last time I checked some islands turned into Afghanistan back in 2015.

I'm talking about a process that would need decades?to centuries to become a reality? and you are right we are not immune from refugees BUT we are immune of sjw mentalities(in large portions at least).
So if the right-wing won't become no1 in the the future,it's more probable that we will be the last Europeans.

[J. Ketch]

You gotta be kidding. 80+ million Turkey (Islamics) would crush 10 million strong Greece easily. And you're talking as if Greece wasn't being overrun by Muzzrats. Last time I checked some islands turned into Afghanistan back in 2015.
Turns out nobody can tell the difference.

[Leto]

I'm talking about a process that would need decades?to centuries to become a reality? and you are right we are not immune from refugees BUT we are immune of sjw mentalities(in large portions at least).
So if the right-wing won't become no1 in the the future,it's more probable that we will be the last Europeans.
At the moment the Visegrad states are the only ones that consistently oppose mass migration and multiculti. They will be the last whites, so it seems. Ethnic and racial pride is very weak in the "West" and stronger in the Eastern parts of the EU. Not that in those countries storm troopers are matching down the streets but they're definitely much better off as of now.

[Leto]

Turns out nobody can tell the difference.
As an amateur geneticist, you do realize that Mainland Greeks are obviously Europeans and don't cluster with Arabs, let alone Afghans. Greece and Rome are the birthplaces of Western civilization (and no, they were not genetically Scandinavian or anything like that).

[Dorian]

Turns out nobody can tell the difference.

https://i.postimg.cc/v81dvKfZ/fasfa.png

[Insuperable]

As an amateur geneticist, you do realize that Mainland Greeks are obviously Europeans and don't cluster with Arabs, let alone Afghans. Greece and Rome are the birthplaces of Western civilization (and no, they were not genetically Scandinavian or anything like that).

And non-mainland Greeks are not Europeans?

[Leto]

And non-mainland Greeks are not Europeans?
Pontics are West Asian genetically. There were even some Greek members who didn't consider them real Greeks. They get almost no Baltic (a proxy for Steppe) on GEDmatch.

[Bellbeaking]

https://i.postimg.cc/v81dvKfZ/fasfa.png

I think haak et al 2015 was a bit premature, english don't seem any different to scotland on G25 or any other deep ancestry calculator but they could be wrong. Why the cheddar man pic? the orange is EEF there.