Eastern European DNA in Western Euros

[Gwydion]

What is the meaning of a high "Eastern Euro" score in Eurogenes K15 in someone of Western heritage? My mother is an Irish-German mix, more Irish, and her German ancestors are from Kallstadt (Rhineland), Lower Franconia, and one listed as from Prussia in the 1830s, where exactly I am unsure but the odd/rare surname (Greib) has low density in most of Germany and is most concentrated in North Rhine Westphalia. Yet her Eurogenes K15 East Euro score is 15.49 (Baltic 8.50) which doesn't seem far behind some proper Eastern European ethnic averages. DNALand has her at 11% Northeast European, 7.9% North Slavic and 3.5% Finnish.

Is this normal for someone of Western European descent or do I have unknown Eastern European ancestry further back?

[Peterski]

Post her Eurogenes K36 results.

[Gwydion]

Post her Eurogenes K36 results.

Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 3.72
Basque 3.88
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.13
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.29
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 6.52
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 6.63
Fennoscandian 8.60
French 8.60
Iberian 13.13
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 0.72
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 19.10
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 17.31
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.28
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 4.04
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.05

[Peterski]

and one listed as from Prussia in the 1830s, where exactly I am unsure

Maybe from East Prussia ???

[Aren]

Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 3.72
Basque 3.88
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.13
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.29
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 6.52
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 6.63
Fennoscandian 8.60
French 8.60
Iberian 13.13
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 0.72
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 19.10
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 17.31
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.28
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 4.04
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.05

Rather typical scores of someone who is West German/Irish.

[Gwydion]

Maybe from East Prussia ???

Yea that was first thing that came to mind, but again surname distribution maps currently put the name largely in the region around Koblenz. So you would agree then that these scores a bit high for someone of Irish and (Western) German heritage?

Does anyone know if Greib is an East Prussian name or perhaps even originally non-German?

[Peterski]

Rather typical scores of someone who is West German/Irish.

Not really, here is a model of ancestry I get for those results:

Gwydion_Mother

Ireland_Connacht 37.2 %
Ireland_Munster 34.5 %
North-Netherlands 13.8 %
Russia_Mari-El 7.3 %
Belarus_Vitebsk 4.0 %
Spain_Basque 3.1 %

Now I will remove North Netherlands and see what happens.

[Peterski]

Does anyone know if Greib is an East Prussian name or perhaps even originally non-German?

I found Grieb in East Prussia: http://www.plew.info/ofb_neuhausen.htm

[Aren]

Not really, here is a model of ancestry I get for those results:

Gwydion_Mother

Ireland_Connacht 37.2 %
Ireland_Munster 34.5 %
North-Netherlands 13.8 %
Russia_Mari-El 7.3 %
Belarus_Vitebsk 4.0 %
Spain_Basque 3.1 %

Now I will remove North Netherlands and see what happens.

And maybe remove Basque aswell. But the East/Central Euro components are relatively average for what a West German or Brit would score.

[Peterski]

So you would agree then that these scores a bit high for someone of Irish and (Western) German heritage?

Your Irish side is extremely Irish, but your German side is atypical for a West German.

In K36 I would expect higher "Italian" in a West German. There is just 0.72% Italian.


but again surname distribution maps currently put the name largely in the region around Koblenz.

But modern distribution, not pre-1945 distribution. There were population movements.

[Aren]

Your Irish side is extremely Irish, but your German side is atypical for a West German.

In K36 I would expect higher "Italian" in a West German. There is just 0.72% Italian.



But modern distribution, not pre-1945 distribution. There were population movements.

But at the same time she's scoring high Armenian and Basque. There's a lot of individual variance in K36. I've seen kids score very differentely from their parents(ie lower Fennoscandia than both parents but higher East-Central Euro, lower North Atlantic but higher French and so on)

[Gwydion]

Your Irish side is extremely Irish, but your German side is atypical for a West German.

In K36 I would expect higher "Italian" in a West German. There is just 0.72% Italian.



But modern distribution, not pre-1945 distribution. There were population movements.


Thanks for the help. So it would seem there might be Eastern European heritage further back. Based on these scores and a likely origination in East Prussia, is there any way to narrow down the possibility? A Polish, Lithuanian, Estonian, or Russian ancestor perhaps? Or just a more Eastern oriented Prussian German?

[Peterski]

But the East/Central Euro components are relatively average for what a West German or Brit would score.

But there is high Fennoscandian for a West German, and low Italian for a West German. It seems like her German can be modeled as a mix of Scandinavian-like DNA* plus Balto-Slavo-Finno-Ugric DNA, which is something you would expect in East Prussia.

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*North Dutch are very close to Scandinavians. But I need to add your regional Scandinavian samples.

After removing North Dutch it was replaced by Norway. But I haven't added your regional samples yet.

[Peterski]

Or just a more Eastern oriented Prussian German?

Could be an East Prussian German with assimilated Old Prussian (Baltic Prussian) ancestry?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussians

Belarusians from Vitebsk are a mix of Slavic and Baltic (in this case East Baltic, but still) DNA.

This Mari is intriguing. Mari are a Finno-Ugric group: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mari_people

[Peterski]

But Norway could also be from Ireland. Because there is Norwegian Viking admixture in Ireland.

BTW, what percent of your mother's ancestry "on paper" is Irish and what percent is German?

[Gwydion]

Could be an East Prussian German with assimilated Old Prussian (Baltic Prussian) ancestry?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussians

Belarusians from Vitebsk are a mix of Slavic and Baltic (in this case East Baltic, but still) DNA.

This Mari is intriguing. Mari are a Finno-Ugric group: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mari_people

I don't know if it means anything, but her Eurogenes K13 detects 1.87 Siberian. Dodecad K7b has 1.27 Siberian and K12b 1.61. Is this mere noise or perhaps something possibly connecting to the Mari/Finno-Urgic element?

[Gwydion]

But Norway could also be from Ireland. Because there is Norwegian Viking admixture in Ireland.

BTW, what percent of your mother's ancestry "on paper" is Irish and what percent is German?

I think she's something like 60-70% Irish and the rest German, though one of her lines goes back to Lincolnshire England, albeit in the 17th century and the same line married into Irish for multiple generations.

[Leto]

Post her Eurogenes K13 please.

[Gwydion]

Post her Eurogenes K13 please.

I posted her top results here in attempt to find out what her and my father's DNA results can tell me about myself:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?241476-What-am-I&p=5082296#post5082296

To do a more detailed:

Population
North_Atlantic 48.39
Baltic 26.25
West_Med 13.03
West_Asian 6.99
East_Med 1.75
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.73
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.87
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3.76
2 North_Dutch 3.81
3 Danish 3.87
4 North_German 4.22
5 Irish 4.55
6 Norwegian 5.02
7 Southeast_English 5.26
8 West_Scottish 5.34
9 Southwest_English 5.84
10 Swedish 6.24
11 South_Dutch 7.41
12 West_German 8.43
13 North_Swedish 11.77
14 Austrian 12.03
15 East_German 12.04
16 French 13.5
17 Hungarian 16.59
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.41
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.78
20 South_Polish 21.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.7% Irish + 11.3% Tatar @ 2.19
2 91.3% Orcadian + 8.7% Tatar @ 2.3
3 90.9% Irish + 9.1% Chuvash @ 2.33
4 91.8% Irish + 8.2% Mari @ 2.4
5 92% Orcadian + 8% Erzya @ 2.4
6 89.1% Orcadian + 10.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.46
7 93.2% Orcadian + 6.8% Chuvash @ 2.46
8 87.5% West_Scottish + 12.5% Erzya @ 2.47
9 89.7% Irish + 10.3% Erzya @ 2.48
10 91.2% Orcadian + 8.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.48
11 86.9% West_Scottish + 13.1% Tatar @ 2.48
12 83.1% West_Scottish + 16.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.49
13 89.2% Orcadian + 10.8% Moldavian @ 2.5
14 86.3% Southwest_English + 13.7% Erzya @ 2.51
15 90.8% Orcadian + 9.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.51
16 88.5% Irish + 11.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.52
17 83.6% West_Scottish + 16.4% Ukrainian @ 2.52
18 89.6% Orcadian + 10.4% Ukrainian @ 2.53
19 75.7% Irish + 24.3% East_German @ 2.54
20 88.5% Orcadian + 11.5% South_Polish @ 2.54

[Peterski]

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

Try 4-Ancestors Oracle instead.

[Gwydion]

Try 4-Ancestors Oracle instead.

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Dutch @ 4.123686
2 Orcadian @ 4.210315
3 Danish @ 4.231311
4 North_German @ 4.630021
5 Irish @ 4.986145
6 Norwegian @ 5.555347
7 Southeast_English @ 5.884863
8 West_Scottish @ 5.997374
9 Southwest_English @ 6.511268
10 Swedish @ 6.911865
11 South_Dutch @ 8.468719
12 West_German @ 9.658733
13 North_Swedish @ 13.220250
14 East_German @ 13.788859
15 Austrian @ 13.828529
16 French @ 15.344733
17 Hungarian @ 19.113146
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 21.908978
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 23.537167
20 Southwest_French @ 24.182966

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% North_German +50% Orcadian @ 3.058473


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% South_Dutch +25% Swedish @ 2.847535


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++
1 East_German + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 2.525935
2 East_German + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 2.540210
3 East_German + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 2.553029
4 East_German + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.586582
5 East_German + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.620611
6 East_German + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.679013
7 East_German + Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.702358
8 East_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.745147
9 East_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.752638
10 Austrian + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 2.781799
11 Austrian + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 2.788321
12 Danish + East_German + Irish + West_Scottish @ 2.818805
13 Austrian + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 2.824315
14 East_German + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 2.826618
15 Danish + East_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.843517
16 East_German + Irish + North_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 2.843678
17 Austrian + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.844355
18 Irish + Irish + South_Dutch + Swedish @ 2.847535
19 Irish + Orcadian + South_Dutch + Swedish @ 2.849328
20 East_German + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.855531

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Is it me or is this also quite Germanic/Scandinavian oriented for someone of over half Irish blood or is this rather normal?

[Peterski]

BTW, are there any East German or Non-German surnames among her German ancestors?

Greib might be an East German surname, but any other?


is there any way to narrow down the possibility?

Try GEDCOM + DNA Matches and check if there are any German matches, and from which regions.


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 East_German + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 2.525935
2 East_German + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 2.540210
3 East_German + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 2.553029
4 East_German + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.586582
5 East_German + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.620611
6 East_German + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.679013
7 East_German + Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.702358
8 East_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.745147
9 East_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.752638
10 Austrian + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 2.781799
11 Austrian + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 2.788321
12 Danish + East_German + Irish + West_Scottish @ 2.818805
13 Austrian + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 2.824315
14 East_German + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 2.826618
15 Danish + East_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.843517
16 East_German + Irish + North_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 2.843678
17 Austrian + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.844355
18 Irish + Irish + South_Dutch + Swedish @ 2.847535
19 Irish + Orcadian + South_Dutch + Swedish @ 2.849328
20 East_German + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.855531

You see? It shows around 1/4 East German, rather than West German.


Is it me or is this also quite Germanic/Scandinavian oriented for someone of over half Irish blood or is this rather normal?

Many North-East (Mecklenburg-Vorpommern etc.) Germans are like a mix of Scandinavian + Slavic.

[Gwydion]

You see? It shows around 1/4 East German, rather than West German.

Makes sense. Are there other people of known East Prussian ancestry who have similar Eastern European scores?

I guess I just find it surprising because if I were to take my mothers great-grandparents, it looks like:

--German from Kallstadt
--German from Lohr am Main
--Englishman from Stoke on Trent, pred. Irish blood though
--Irish (Northern Ireland likely)
--Old Anglo-American stock, though again pred. Irish blood
--Irish from Connacht
--Irish from Liscannor
--Prussian....father surnamed Greib and mother maiden is Kahl

Strange that my mother would still have East Euro and Baltic scores so high.

[Peterski]

I found surnames Kahle, Greibe and Griebe in East Prussia.

[Aren]

Makes sense. Are there other people of known East Prussian ancestry who have similar Eastern European scores?

I guess I just find it surprising because if I were to take my mothers great-grandparents, it looks like:

--German from Kallstadt
--German from Lohr am Main
--Englishman from Stoke on Trent, pred. Irish blood though
--Irish (Northern Ireland likely)
--Old Anglo-American stock, though again pred. Irish blood
--Irish from Connacht
--Irish from Liscannor
--Prussian....father surnamed Greib and mother maiden is Kahl

Strange that my mother would still have East Euro and Baltic scores so high.

There's an Irish member here Jessie who is fully Irish and scores almost 26% Baltic in the Eurogenes K13. I don't think it would be out of the ordinary if your Irish or West German ancestors also scored similar to that.

[Peterski]

Are there other people of known East Prussian ancestry who have similar Eastern European scores?

Yes, but I haven't found anyone with 100% East Prussian ancestry so far (only 25%, 50%, 75%, etc.).

But I've seen how one German from what is now Kaliningrad Oblast plots, and he is very Baltic-shifted.

[Leto]

I posted her top results here in attempt to find out what her and my father's DNA results can tell me about myself:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?241476-What-am-I&p=5082296#post5082296

To do a more detailed:

Population
North_Atlantic 48.39
Baltic 26.25
West_Med 13.03
West_Asian 6.99
East_Med 1.75
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.73
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.87
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 3.76
2 North_Dutch 3.81
3 Danish 3.87
4 North_German 4.22
5 Irish 4.55
6 Norwegian 5.02
7 Southeast_English 5.26
8 West_Scottish 5.34
9 Southwest_English 5.84
10 Swedish 6.24
11 South_Dutch 7.41
12 West_German 8.43
13 North_Swedish 11.77
14 Austrian 12.03
15 East_German 12.04
16 French 13.5
17 Hungarian 16.59
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.41
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.78
20 South_Polish 21.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.7% Irish + 11.3% Tatar @ 2.19
2 91.3% Orcadian + 8.7% Tatar @ 2.3
3 90.9% Irish + 9.1% Chuvash @ 2.33
4 91.8% Irish + 8.2% Mari @ 2.4
5 92% Orcadian + 8% Erzya @ 2.4
6 89.1% Orcadian + 10.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.46
7 93.2% Orcadian + 6.8% Chuvash @ 2.46
8 87.5% West_Scottish + 12.5% Erzya @ 2.47
9 89.7% Irish + 10.3% Erzya @ 2.48
10 91.2% Orcadian + 8.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.48
11 86.9% West_Scottish + 13.1% Tatar @ 2.48
12 83.1% West_Scottish + 16.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.49
13 89.2% Orcadian + 10.8% Moldavian @ 2.5
14 86.3% Southwest_English + 13.7% Erzya @ 2.51
15 90.8% Orcadian + 9.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.51
16 88.5% Irish + 11.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.52
17 83.6% West_Scottish + 16.4% Ukrainian @ 2.52
18 89.6% Orcadian + 10.4% Ukrainian @ 2.53
19 75.7% Irish + 24.3% East_German @ 2.54
20 88.5% Orcadian + 11.5% South_Polish @ 2.54
This person seems to be almost fully Anglo-Celtic genetically.

[Peterski]

There's an Irish member here Jessie who is fully Irish and scores almost 26% Baltic in the Eurogenes K13.

There are many different types of Irish though:

Native Irish (Gaelic Irish), Norse-Gaels, Hiberno-Normans, Seanghaill (Old Foreigners), Ulster Scots, Anglo-Irish, etc.

There are also Non-Paternal Events, you know.

If he scores so much Baltic, he likely has a lot of ancestry from somewhere to the east of Ireland. Can be Norse etc.

[Peterski]

There are even political divisions alongside old ethnic divisions:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ff-and-fg-tribal-split-traced-back-to-12th-century-1.607729

"(...) After identifying the surname origin of every one of the 1,100 TDs ever elected, the researchers found significant differences in the distribution of surnames between Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael. While 64 per cent of Fianna Fáil TDs have surnames of exclusively Gaelic origin, only 51 per cent of Fine Gael TDs do. The opposite pattern is seen for Old English (Norman) and New English surnames, with 22 per cent of Fine Gael TDs bearing names of that origin, but only 12 per cent of Fianna Fáil deputies. While a surname of a given origin isn’t enough to predict a politician’s party, there is a bias in affiliation toward Fianna Fáil TDs having Gaelic surnames and Fine Gael TDs having Old and New English surnames,’ say the researchers. They add that the probability of these differences arising by chance is very remote, so they conclude that the tribal polarisation between Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael is statistically significant. (...)"

[Leto]

C'mon, there's no significant genetic differences between various Irish regions. That's more like nitpicking.

[Peterski]

C'mon, there's no significant genetic differences between various Irish regions.

I have many Irish samples and there are differences in Eurogenes K36 between them.

And especially the individuals with Non-Gaelic surnames tend to have "weird" results. There are not only differences between regions, also between individuals. And they often correlate with origin of surnames, even though surname is just one lineage.

Maybe people with Gaelic surnames tend to marry other people with such surnames, etc.?

[Leto]

I have many Irish samples and there are differences in Eurogenes K36 between them.

And especially the individuals with Non-Gaelic surnames tend to have "weird" results. There are not only differences between regions, also between individuals. And they often correlate with origin of surnames, even though surname is just one lineage.

Maybe people with Gaelic surnames tend to marry other people with such surnames, etc.?
I think they are a bit less diverse than Poles for example and Poles are more homogeneous than Russians.

[Gwydion]

There are many different types of Irish though:

Native Irish (Gaelic Irish), Norse-Gaels, Hiberno-Normans, Seanghaill (Old Foreigners), Ulster Scots, Anglo-Irish, etc.

There are also Non-Paternal Events, you know.

If he scores so much Baltic, he likely has a lot of ancestry from somewhere to the east of Ireland. Can be Norse etc.

Somewhat off topic, but as noted I posted my parents Eurogenes results here:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?241476-What-am-I&p=5082296#post5082296

Does it seem like between them I have significant Norse ancestry? Just weird how my averages come out as Orcadian, Norwegian, Icelandic, Argyll, etc. I suppose what I find most strange about that is that my paternal ancestors originally were Norse who settled in Western Scotland, thus likely Norse-Gael and yet my modern DNA, based on an Anglo-Scottish father and German-Irish mother mix, seems to point in a similar direction, i.e. Celto-Norse.

[Peterski]

C'mon, there's no significant genetic differences between various Irish regions. That's more like nitpicking.

For example these are my Irish samples from County Galway:

Surname - origin

Colleran - Irish Gaelic
Gately - Lowland Scottish
Devaney - Irish Gaelic
Madden - Irish Gaelic
Keegan - Irish Gaelic
Beegan - Irish Gaelic
Pettit - Norman or English
Dowd - Irish Gaelic
Keogh - Irish Gaelic
Downey - English
Trayers - Scottish
King - probably Irish Gaelic
O'Donnell - Irish Gaelic
Naughton - Irish Gaelic
Scott - Scottish
Hanley - Irish Gaelic
Ward - Irish Gaelic

All of them have pretty similar results to each other in K36, except for 4 of them.

And all of these 4 genetic "outliers" in K36, happen to have Non-Gaelic surnames:

Gately - has unusually high "Italian" (9.21%)
Pettit - higher "North Sea" than "North Atlantic"
Downey - higher "North Sea" than "North Atlantic"
Trayers - roughly equal "North Sea" and "North Atlantic"

People with Irish Gaelic surnames, usually have higher "North Atlantic" than "North Sea".

[RN97]

Looks like she has a Polak in the woodpile

[Gwydion]

Well I got my mother's K47 results, perhaps these might shed some further light on the matter?

FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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0.00% Kushitic
4.48% North-Iberian
7.24% East-Iberian
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% North-African
1.08% South-Caucasian
3.46% North-Caucasian
0.32% Paleo-Balkan
0.00% Turkic-Altai
0.00% Proto-Austronesian
0.00% Nilotic
0.00% East-Med
0.00% Omotic
0.00% Munda
0.00% North-Amerind
0.00% Arabic
6.84% East-Euro
0.00% Central-African_HG
0.03% Andean
0.00% Indo-Chinese
0.00% South-Indian
0.00% NE-Asian
4.37% Volgan
0.00% Mongolian
0.00% Siberian
16.66% North-Sea_Germanic
21.43% Celtic
0.00% West-African
7.81% West-Finnic
0.53% Uralic
0.00% Sahelian
0.00% NW-Indian
0.00% East-African_HG
0.00% East-Asian
0.00% Amuro-Manchurian
10.95% Scando-Germanic
0.00% Iranian
0.00% South-African_HG
0.00% Amazonian
5.87% Baltic
0.00% Malay
0.00% Meso-Amerind
0.00% South-Chinese
0.00% Papuan
4.66% West-Med
1.63% Pamirian
2.64% Central-Med


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Here it seems the West Finnic is the higher component rather than East Euro. If we combine this with the Volgan, I wonder what this might mean for a Prussian German?


As an aside, my father actually scored a higher East Euro on the K47 (10.36%) and he is mostly of English/British and minor Dutch ancestry. In relation to K47 for British descendants, what does East Euro and Baltic mean? Is this something that arrived with the Anglo-Saxons or Norse?