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JQP4545
04-20-2018, 07:15 PM
Pella is in Central Macedonia

Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 28.41
2 Atlantic_Med 27.66
3 Caucasus 27.44
4 Southwest_Asian 7.15
5 Gedrosia 5.95
6 South_Asian 1.41
7 Siberian 1.12
8 Northwest_African 0.86

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.86
2 Romanians (Behar) 8.22
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.41
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.5
5 Greek (Dodecad) 12.27
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.32
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.48
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.48
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.13
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.05
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.2
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.25
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.78
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.01
15 Hungarians (Behar) 21.35
16 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.39
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.66
18 French (HGDP) 24.72
19 French (Dodecad) 24.73
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 24.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 46% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.15
2 75% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 25% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.27
3 50.9% Romanians (Behar) + 49.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.49
4 55.9% German (Dodecad) + 44.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.5
5 57.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 42.7% German (Dodecad) @ 2.56
6 52.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.7
7 54% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 46% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.73
8 76% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.86
9 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.88
10 83.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.92
11 53% Cypriots (Behar) + 47% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.99
12 67.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 32.3% German (Dodecad) @ 3.03
13 65.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 34.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.06
14 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.06
15 75.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.22
16 63.1% Romanians (Behar) + 36.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.27
17 83.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.27
18 84% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.29
19 65.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 34.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.32
20 66.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.34

Jana
04-20-2018, 07:28 PM
76% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.86

Significant Slavic admixture. Sikeliot was right.

Aren
04-20-2018, 07:31 PM
Significant Slavic admixture. Sikeliot was right.

Seems like more general Northern input

14 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.06
9 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.88

Jana
04-20-2018, 07:32 PM
Seems like more general Northern input

14 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.06
9 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.88

It is not because no any kind of Germanic or Celts impacted northern Greeks.
It is Slavic as their ydna sugests !

JQP4545
04-20-2018, 07:34 PM
It is not because no any kind of Germanic or Celts impacted northern Greeks.
It is Slavic as their ydna sugests !

His Y-haplogroup is I2a2 and mtDNA is U5

JQP4545
04-20-2018, 07:35 PM
His Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.24
2 West_Med 21.16
3 North_Atlantic 20.25
4 East_Med 19.97
5 West_Asian 11.68
6 Red_Sea 2.29
7 South_Asian 1.31
8 Oceanian 0.79
9 Siberian 0.77
10 Amerindian 0.53

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.3
2 Romanian 6.22
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.67
4 Serbian 10.34
5 Tuscan 12.95
6 Central_Greek 13.52
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.59
8 North_Italian 14.23
9 West_Sicilian 14.65
10 East_Sicilian 14.86
11 Moldavian 15.29
12 Ashkenazi 17.13
13 South_Italian 17.76
14 Croatian 18.39
15 Hungarian 18.44
16 Austrian 20.67
17 Portuguese 20.91
18 Spanish_Galicia 21.51
19 Spanish_Extremadura 21.55
20 French 22.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.2% Bulgarian + 9.8% Sardinian @ 2.18
2 70.9% Greek_Thessaly + 29.1% Moldavian @ 2.47
3 74.9% Greek_Thessaly + 25.1% Croatian @ 2.75
4 53.8% Moldavian + 46.2% South_Italian @ 2.76
5 80.3% Greek_Thessaly + 19.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.81
6 81.1% Greek_Thessaly + 18.9% Ukrainian @ 2.83
7 65.7% Bulgarian + 34.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.95
8 53.2% Central_Greek + 46.8% Moldavian @ 2.96
9 83.1% Greek_Thessaly + 16.9% Polish @ 3.07
10 81.2% Greek_Thessaly + 18.8% South_Polish @ 3.08
11 57.9% Central_Greek + 42.1% Croatian @ 3.09
12 84.6% Greek_Thessaly + 15.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.11
13 59.7% South_Italian + 40.3% Ukrainian @ 3.12
14 50.9% South_Italian + 49.1% Croatian @ 3.12
15 52.3% Romanian + 47.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.15
16 83.1% Bulgarian + 16.9% West_Sicilian @ 3.16
17 84.1% Greek_Thessaly + 15.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.19
18 85.9% Bulgarian + 14.1% South_Italian @ 3.21
19 66.3% Central_Greek + 33.7% Ukrainian @ 3.23
20 86.2% Greek_Thessaly + 13.8% Lithuanian @ 3.23

Jana
04-20-2018, 07:47 PM
His Y-haplogroup is I2a2 and mtDNA is U5

I mean in general, slavic autosomal impact in northern Greece is equal to combined amount of R1a/I2-dinaric percentage there, which isn't nonsignificant.

nightrider+
04-20-2018, 07:49 PM
I mean in general, slavic autosomal impact in northern Greece is equal to combined amount of R1a/I2-dinaric percentage there, which isn't nonsignificant.

It varies, even between neighboring villages. This one is atypical anyway, judging by his distances.

JQP4545
04-20-2018, 07:58 PM
I mean in general, slavic autosomal impact in northern Greece is equal to combined amount of R1a/I2-dinaric percentage there, which isn't nonsignificant.

His I2a2 is L-38

Jana
04-20-2018, 08:04 PM
His I2a2 is L-38

That's Germanic, very rare in southeastern Europe but present.

Papastratosels26
04-20-2018, 08:07 PM
So he has Germanic ancenstry.

Papastratosels26
04-20-2018, 08:09 PM
In my area we have quite a lot of people with Germanic ancenstry(including me).The reason unknow.

Jana
04-20-2018, 08:21 PM
Significant?? :D :D
How did you come up with that?

First of all the more significant reference population is not even Greek but Central Italian!
The results are not unusual, there is a gradual increase of more northern dna as you go more north.
This guy has very similar results as mine, Pella is very close to the town where I am from so the people from nearby are very similar.

This is what I get on the same calculator: 76.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 23.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.42

This is what a Thessalian gets: 73.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.2% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.52
This a result posted by Sikeliot.
He doesn't get Central Italy as a reference, but South Italy.
And mind you, Thessaly is more to the south of Pella, Cental Macedonia.
Still, you can see that there is a gradual increase as you go more north which is something normal.

You can not expect that all the population from the south to the north will be the same, do you? :D

There is nothing unusual in the result, in fact, it is pretty normal.

Well yes he is practically identical to more southern shifted Slavic Macedonians which is pretty telling.
Greeks were not untouched by great migrations of Slavs.

This northern affinity surely did arrive in middle ages and there is no point to deny it. It is not like he is Slavic, he is mostly Hellene but slavic admixture is there.

Papastratosels26
04-20-2018, 08:40 PM
Pella is in Central Macedonia

Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 28.41
2 Atlantic_Med 27.66
3 Caucasus 27.44
4 Southwest_Asian 7.15
5 Gedrosia 5.95
6 South_Asian 1.41
7 Siberian 1.12
8 Northwest_African 0.86

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.86
2 Romanians (Behar) 8.22
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.41
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.5
5 Greek (Dodecad) 12.27
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.32
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.48
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.48
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.13
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.05
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.2
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.25
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.78
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.01
15 Hungarians (Behar) 21.35
16 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.39
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.66
18 French (HGDP) 24.72
19 French (Dodecad) 24.73
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 24.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 46% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.15
2 75% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 25% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.27
3 50.9% Romanians (Behar) + 49.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.49
4 55.9% German (Dodecad) + 44.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.5
5 57.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 42.7% German (Dodecad) @ 2.56
6 52.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.7
7 54% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 46% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.73
8 76% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.86
9 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.88
10 83.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.92
11 53% Cypriots (Behar) + 47% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.99
12 67.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 32.3% German (Dodecad) @ 3.03
13 65.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 34.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.06
14 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.06
15 75.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.22
16 63.1% Romanians (Behar) + 36.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.27
17 83.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.27
18 84% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.29
19 65.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 34.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.32
20 66.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.34
This guy must be native/dopios i dont think he is Anatolian Greek.

Ajeje Brazorf
04-20-2018, 08:40 PM
I wonder how all these GEDmatch results of Sicilians, Greeks etc can be accurate... We do not know anything about those people.

Norswed
04-20-2018, 08:48 PM
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 46% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.15
2 75% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 25% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.27
3 50.9% Romanians (Behar) + 49.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.49
4 55.9% German (Dodecad) + 44.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.5
5 57.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 42.7% German (Dodecad) @ 2.56
6 52.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.7
7 54% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 46% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.73
8 76% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.86
9 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.88
10 83.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.92
11 53% Cypriots (Behar) + 47% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.99
12 67.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 32.3% German (Dodecad) @ 3.03
[B][U]13 65.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 34.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.06
14 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.06
15 75.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.22
16 63.1% Romanians (Behar) + 36.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.27
17 83.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.27
18 84% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.29
19 65.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 34.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.32
20 66.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.34

He's one of us. I doubt this is Slav admixture though , his haplogroup is the Germanic type that you find in Albania and Greece.


This guy must be native/dopios i dont think he is Anatolian Greek.

I think you are wrong , it looks like he has 27 West Asian/Caucasus.

Leto
04-20-2018, 08:54 PM
14 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.06
I wonder where the Dodecad Greek reference is from.

Coolguy1
04-20-2018, 11:35 PM
Pella has traditionally been a Slavophone area. These results are not surprising. Compare with a Greek Macedonian from Pieria or Chalkidiki and you will see the difference.

Coolguy1
04-20-2018, 11:53 PM
Well those places are still more southern of Pella and we have some members here from Pieria, Kouros I think, who already posted his results and they were just a little bit more southern shifted as expected.
However, I would like to see some results from Chalkidiki.
I think the people there could be more southern shifted, don't you think?

Kouros' results were from 23andme which does not provide many snps for gedmatch. I think that people from Chalkidiki will be more southern shifted. Slavs were not living there before 1923.

Dibran
04-21-2018, 06:10 PM
His I2a2 is L-38

Goths or Bastarnae, no doubt.

JQP4545
04-21-2018, 06:36 PM
Here is a Greek with paternal ancestry from Desfina and maternal ancestry from Corinth and Laconia:

Dodecad K12b:

1 Gedrosia 6.13
2 Siberian 0.00
3 Northwest African 0.28
4 Southeast Asian 0.00
5 AtlanticMed 28.63
6 NorthEuropean 25.13
7 SouthAsian 0.00
8 EastAfrican 0.50
9 SouthwestAsia 12.05
10 EastAsia 0.00
11 Caucasus 27.29
12 SubSaharan 0.00

Bosniensis
04-21-2018, 06:38 PM
Significant Slavic admixture. Sikeliot was right.

Have you ever taught of Russians who are in fact people from Balkans?

Do you know how many hundreds of thousands people from Balkans live in Russia?

half of Thrace and Anatolia went to Russia in 15th century.

Russians are extremely mixed people: Vikings, Turks, Mongols, Greeks, you name it.

Ajeje Brazorf
04-21-2018, 06:41 PM
Is it normal that these Greeks are closer to Bulgarians and Romanians than to the Greeks of Thessaloniki who are 80km from them?

nightrider+
04-21-2018, 07:06 PM
Is it normal that these Greeks are closer to Bulgarians and Romanians than to the Greeks of Thessaloniki who are 80km from them?

*****'s results are cherrypicked as fuck obviously and even so, half of them are more central Euro/NW Euro shifted than Slav shifted.

Ajeje Brazorf
04-21-2018, 07:14 PM
*****'s results are cherrypicked as fuck obviously and even so, half of them are more central Euro/NW Euro shifted than Slav shifted.

Then I would like to point out that we know nothing about these people and their ancestors, who might even be non-Greeks.

nightrider+
04-21-2018, 07:17 PM
Then I would like to point out that we know nothing about these people and their ancestors, who might even be non-Greeks.

True.

Ajeje Brazorf
04-21-2018, 07:21 PM
Well I've also put the kit number and you can see that those people have Greek names and surnames.
But really what kind of results do you expect there?
For Central Macedonia, there are no results without Bulgaria in the top 3...

I only find it strange that some of those posted by you have Romanians before the Greeks.

Percivalle
04-21-2018, 07:30 PM
Significant Slavic admixture. Sikeliot was right.

His parents are from Almopia, only few kms far from the border with Fyrom and Bulgaria, and in Greek Macedonia according to old official census there was a large Bulgarian and Slavic community. So I think it's not so strange. But his Y-DNA doesn't seem to be Slavic: I2a2b-L38.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_speakers_of_Greek_Macedonia

nightrider+
04-21-2018, 07:30 PM
As you go more to the west, to Kastoria, there are more results which are shifted towards Italian Abruzzo and Tuscany, but east of that, the results are shifted towards Bulgaria...

I know this but I'm pretty sure not all results from Central Macedonia look like the ones you posted.

Percivalle
04-21-2018, 07:36 PM
That's not a Slavic haplogroup...
And even if that guy wasn't from a Slavic speaking community, what do you think the result will be??
Do you think he will get East Sicily or Central Greece before Bulgaria?

Are you able to read English? it seems you're not.

Ajeje Brazorf
04-21-2018, 08:07 PM
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

Kit A397350

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.31
2 Atlantic 16.68
3 Baltic 16.15
4 West_Med 16.1
5 West_Asian 9.34
6 Eastern_Euro 8.42
7 North_Sea 8.22
8 Red_Sea 2.79
9 Oceanian 0.5
10 Siberian 0.26
11 Amerindian 0.25

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.57
2 Bulgarian 6.68
3 Greek_Thessaly 8.81
4 Romanian 9.79
5 Tuscan 12.05
6 Central_Greek 12.26
7 Italian_Abruzzo 12.41
8 West_Sicilian 12.55
9 Ashkenazi 12.85
10 East_Sicilian 13.08
11 Serbian 13.12
12 South_Italian 14.86
13 North_Italian 14.91
14 Moldavian 17.28
15 Croatian 18.43
16 Italian_Jewish 18.75
17 Austrian 18.87
18 Sephardic_Jewish 19.08
19 Algerian_Jewish 19.22
20 Hungarian 19.99

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% Greek + 12.6% Lithuanian @ 3.09
2 86.3% Greek + 13.7% Estonian_Polish @ 3.16
3 86.3% Greek + 13.7% Belorussian @ 3.18
4 85.5% Greek + 14.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.29
5 86.3% Greek + 13.7% Southwest_Russian @ 3.49
6 86.3% Greek + 13.7% Polish @ 3.54
7 86.2% Greek + 13.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.57
8 85.6% Greek + 14.4% South_Polish @ 3.7
9 88.5% Greek + 11.5% Estonian @ 3.7
10 81.3% Greek + 18.7% Croatian @ 3.74
11 85.9% Greek + 14.1% Ukrainian @ 3.75
12 85.6% Greek + 14.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.79
13 88.1% Greek + 11.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.83
14 88.6% Greek + 11.4% Erzya @ 3.86
15 89.2% Greek + 10.8% La_Brana-1 @ 4.07
16 58.4% Greek + 41.6% Bulgarian @ 4.14
17 81.9% Greek + 18.1% Moldavian @ 4.17
18 89.6% Greek + 10.4% East_Finnish @ 4.23
19 83.6% Greek + 16.4% Austrian @ 4.25
20 89.9% Greek + 10.1% Finnish @ 4.36

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 6.428692
2 Bulgarian @ 7.807291
3 Greek_Thessaly @ 10.233464
4 Romanian @ 11.458522
5 Tuscan @ 13.846988
6 Central_Greek @ 14.184685
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 14.288024
8 West_Sicilian @ 14.356619
9 Ashkenazi @ 14.622077
10 East_Sicilian @ 15.006536
11 Serbian @ 15.373353
12 South_Italian @ 17.222237
13 North_Italian @ 17.257242
14 Moldavian @ 20.260099
15 Croatian @ 21.571253
16 Italian_Jewish @ 21.591593
17 Sephardic_Jewish @ 21.935137
18 Austrian @ 22.077190
19 Algerian_Jewish @ 22.092539
20 Hungarian @ 23.412191

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% Greek @ 4.887231

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.488119

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian_Jewish + Estonian_Polish + Greek + Greek @ 3.960176
2 Algerian_Jewish + Greek + Greek + Russian_Smolensk @ 3.975249
3 Algerian_Jewish + Belorussian + Greek + Greek @ 4.035846
4 Algerian_Jewish + Greek + Greek + Lithuanian @ 4.164986
5 Estonian_Polish + Greek + Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.399681
6 Greek + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.488119
7 Belorussian + Greek + Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.494697
8 Algerian_Jewish + Greek + Greek + Southwest_Russian @ 4.504417
9 Estonian_Polish + Greek + Greek + South_Italian @ 4.508663
10 Estonian_Polish + Greek + Greek + Italian_Jewish @ 4.534460
11 Algerian_Jewish + Greek + Greek + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.539802
12 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 4.549368
13 Greek + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian @ 4.549377
14 Estonian_Polish + Greek + Greek + Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.552103
15 Greek + Greek + Italian_Jewish + Russian_Smolensk @ 4.567000
16 Greek + Greek + Lithuanian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.568751
17 Algerian_Jewish + Greek + Greek + Polish @ 4.601323
18 Belorussian + Greek + Greek + South_Italian @ 4.627798
19 Croatian + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 4.641818
20 Belorussian + Greek + Greek + Italian_Jewish @ 4.642577

Kit A230940

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 18.11
2 East_Med 16.41
3 Atlantic 15.78
4 West_Med 13.03
5 West_Asian 12.99
6 North_Sea 11.44
7 Eastern_Euro 7.51
8 Red_Sea 4.15
9 Oceanian 0.49
10 Southeast_Asian 0.09

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.37
2 Romanian 5.56
3 Greek 9.4
4 Greek_Thessaly 9.89
5 Serbian 9.98
6 Moldavian 13.16
7 Tuscan 14.06
8 Italian_Abruzzo 14.19
9 Central_Greek 14.5
10 Croatian 14.6
11 Ashkenazi 14.82
12 East_Sicilian 15.41
13 Austrian 15.51
14 Hungarian 16.08
15 North_Italian 16.11
16 West_Sicilian 16.15
17 South_Italian 17.85
18 East_German 20.21
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.44
20 South_Polish 21.04

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.9% Bulgarian + 3.1% Saudi @ 3.06
2 96.5% Bulgarian + 3.5% Bedouin @ 3.15
3 96.4% Bulgarian + 3.6% Syrian @ 3.19
4 97.7% Bulgarian + 2.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.19
5 97% Bulgarian + 3% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.21
6 97.1% Bulgarian + 2.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.21
7 97.5% Bulgarian + 2.5% Georgian @ 3.22
8 97.3% Bulgarian + 2.7% North_Ossetian @ 3.22
9 96.7% Bulgarian + 3.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.22
10 97.7% Bulgarian + 2.3% Abhkasian @ 3.22
11 97.1% Bulgarian + 2.9% Assyrian @ 3.23
12 97.2% Bulgarian + 2.8% Palestinian @ 3.23
13 97.1% Bulgarian + 2.9% Jordanian @ 3.24
14 97.3% Bulgarian + 2.7% Samaritan @ 3.24
15 97.5% Bulgarian + 2.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.24
16 97.3% Bulgarian + 2.7% Iranian @ 3.25
17 97.4% Bulgarian + 2.6% Adygei @ 3.25
18 97.5% Bulgarian + 2.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.25
19 96.6% Bulgarian + 3.4% Turkish @ 3.25
20 97.5% Bulgarian + 2.5% Armenian @ 3.26

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 3.769094
2 Romanian @ 6.434420
3 Greek @ 10.847211
4 Greek_Thessaly @ 11.394754
5 Serbian @ 11.668546
6 Moldavian @ 15.402405
7 Tuscan @ 16.075806
8 Italian_Abruzzo @ 16.370150
9 Central_Greek @ 16.808332
10 Ashkenazi @ 17.045418
11 Croatian @ 17.077684
12 East_Sicilian @ 17.767372
13 Austrian @ 18.135231
14 North_Italian @ 18.448698
15 West_Sicilian @ 18.602612
16 Hungarian @ 18.809156
17 South_Italian @ 20.715425
18 East_German @ 23.737665
19 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 23.850340
20 South_Polish @ 24.533730

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% Bulgarian @ 3.769094

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Bulgarian +25% Bulgarian @ 3.769094

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian @ 3.769094
2 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Lithuanian @ 3.979188
3 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Lithuanian + South_Italian @ 3.995333
4 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + East_Sicilian + Lithuanian @ 4.011391
5 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek + Russian_Smolensk @ 4.064576
6 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Greek + Russian_Smolensk @ 4.065033
7 Bulgarian + Greek + Lithuanian + South_Italian @ 4.082895
8 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + South_Italian @ 4.100851
9 Bulgarian + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian @ 4.104740
10 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian @ 4.122868
11 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Lithuanian + South_Italian @ 4.140489
12 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian @ 4.153208
13 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + East_Sicilian + Lithuanian @ 4.173165
14 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian @ 4.193799
15 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Greek + South_Italian @ 4.208454
16 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Russian_Smolensk @ 4.228820
17 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Greek + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.240674
18 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Central_Greek @ 4.241540
19 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Romanian @ 4.242741
20 Central_Greek + Lithuanian + Romanian + South_Italian @ 4.243663

Kit H177149

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 17.08
2 West_Asian 16.73
3 Atlantic 16.56
4 East_Med 14.28
5 Baltic 14.06
6 North_Sea 10.53
7 Eastern_Euro 8.36
8 Red_Sea 1.86
9 Oceanian 0.34
10 Amerindian 0.14
11 Sub-Saharan 0.04
12 Northeast_African 0.01

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.2
2 Romanian 8.06
3 Greek 9.02
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.29
5 Serbian 11.94
6 Tuscan 12.71
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.09
8 Central_Greek 13.69
9 North_Italian 14.48
10 East_Sicilian 14.93
11 Ashkenazi 15.35
12 West_Sicilian 15.51
13 Moldavian 15.52
14 South_Italian 17.02
15 Croatian 17.21
16 Austrian 17.59
17 Hungarian 18.61
18 Portuguese 20.34
19 Spanish_Andalucia 20.38
20 Spanish_Extremadura 20.54

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.3% Bulgarian + 8.7% Abhkasian @ 4.86
2 90% Bulgarian + 10% Ossetian @ 4.89
3 90.8% Bulgarian + 9.2% Georgian @ 4.94
4 89.3% Bulgarian + 10.7% Balkar @ 4.94
5 90.4% Bulgarian + 9.6% North_Ossetian @ 5
6 90.1% Bulgarian + 9.9% Adygei @ 5.06
7 89.6% Bulgarian + 10.4% Kabardin @ 5.08
8 90.4% Bulgarian + 9.6% Chechen @ 5.17
9 89.9% Bulgarian + 10.1% Kumyk @ 5.35
10 91.6% Bulgarian + 8.4% Lezgin @ 5.5
11 92.5% Bulgarian + 7.5% Sardinian @ 5.57
12 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Tabassaran @ 5.62
13 92.4% Bulgarian + 7.6% Armenian @ 5.63
14 90.5% Bulgarian + 9.5% Turkish @ 5.68
15 92.2% Bulgarian + 7.8% Nogay @ 5.75
16 93.6% Bulgarian + 6.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.79
17 84.2% Bulgarian + 15.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.8
18 85.2% Bulgarian + 14.8% Central_Greek @ 5.81
19 76.6% Bulgarian + 23.4% Greek @ 5.83
20 93.9% Bulgarian + 6.1% Kurdish @

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 7.144427
2 Romanian @ 9.277344
3 Greek @ 10.642263
4 Greek_Thessaly @ 12.061769
5 Serbian @ 13.877945
6 Tuscan @ 14.734936
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 15.222584
8 Central_Greek @ 16.013268
9 North_Italian @ 16.806673
10 East_Sicilian @ 17.323221
11 Ashkenazi @ 17.681589
12 Moldavian @ 18.009792
13 West_Sicilian @ 18.030182
14 South_Italian @ 19.922390
15 Croatian @ 19.972609
16 Austrian @ 20.424526
17 Hungarian @ 21.644239
18 Portuguese @ 23.634989
19 Spanish_Andalucia @ 23.679300
20 Spanish_Extremadura @ 23.844826

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% Bulgarian @ 7.144427

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +25% Georgian +25% Sardinian @ 3.269816

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Georgian + Sardinian @ 2.244065
2 Adygei + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.364094
3 Adygei + Belorussian + Greek + Sardinian @ 2.439186
4 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Georgian + Sardinian @ 2.440017
5 Belorussian + Greek + North_Ossetian + Sardinian @ 2.448884
6 Bulgarian + Georgian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 2.501225
7 Belorussian + Georgian + Romanian + Sardinian @ 2.547736
8 Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + North_Ossetian + Sardinian @ 2.597352
9 Georgian + Romanian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 2.609543
10 Lithuanian + North_Ossetian + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 2.646877
11 Bulgarian + Georgian + Polish + Sardinian @ 2.663829
12 Adygei + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 2.684919
13 Estonian_Polish + Georgian + Romanian + Sardinian @ 2.693711
14 Adygei + Greek + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.704689
15 Italian_Abruzzo + Kabardin + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.732398
16 Greek + North_Ossetian + Polish + Sardinian @ 2.741228
17 Adygei + Greek + Polish + Sardinian @ 2.744598
18 Greek + North_Ossetian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 2.767587
19 Estonian_Polish + Greek + North_Ossetian + Sardinian @ 2.780517
20 Bulgarian + Georgian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.796577

Kit A952122

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 19.45
2 Baltic 18.58
3 Atlantic 17.13
4 West_Med 15.91
5 North_Sea 10.32
6 West_Asian 10.02
7 Eastern_Euro 5.06
8 Red_Sea 2.56
9 Southeast_Asian 0.42
10 Oceanian 0.38
11 Northeast_African 0.16

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.06
2 Greek 7.8
3 Romanian 8.82
4 Greek_Thessaly 9.21
5 Tuscan 12.37
6 Serbian 12.57
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.49
8 Central_Greek 13.6
9 West_Sicilian 14.23
10 East_Sicilian 14.34
11 North_Italian 14.5
12 Ashkenazi 14.62
13 South_Italian 16.17
14 Moldavian 16.28
15 Croatian 17.19
16 Austrian 17.64
17 Hungarian 18.43
18 Portuguese 20.5
19 Italian_Jewish 20.56
20 Spanish_Andalucia 20.58

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.2% Greek + 16.8% Lithuanian @ 4.78
2 82.2% Greek + 17.8% Belorussian @ 5.04
3 81.1% Greek + 18.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.14
4 79.4% Greek + 20.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.16
5 65.1% Bulgarian + 34.9% Greek @ 5.18
6 66.6% South_Italian + 33.4% Lithuanian @ 5.2
7 82.6% Greek + 17.4% Estonian_Polish @ 5.21
8 79.9% Greek + 20.1% South_Polish @ 5.21
9 73.8% Greek + 26.2% Croatian @ 5.22
10 81.6% Greek + 18.4% Polish @ 5.24
11 80.6% Greek + 19.4% Ukrainian @ 5.34
12 92.2% Bulgarian + 7.8% Sardinian @ 5.35
13 87.9% Bulgarian + 12.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.35
14 84.4% Greek + 15.6% Estonian @ 5.36
15 84.7% Bulgarian + 15.3% South_Italian @ 5.39
16 90.1% Bulgarian + 9.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.46
17 83.7% Bulgarian + 16.3% West_Sicilian @ 5.49
18 84.3% Greek + 15.7% La_Brana-1 @ 5.49
19 88.7% Bulgarian + 11.3% Italian_Jewish @ 5.51
20 89% Bulgarian + 11% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.51

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 7.051770
2 Greek @ 9.004173
3 Romanian @ 10.284575
4 Greek_Thessaly @ 10.611757
5 Tuscan @ 14.096839
6 Serbian @ 14.713494
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 15.463037
8 Central_Greek @ 15.681170
9 West_Sicilian @ 16.278080
10 East_Sicilian @ 16.420355
11 North_Italian @ 16.656296
12 Ashkenazi @ 16.668976
13 South_Italian @ 18.690887
14 Moldavian @ 19.086672
15 Croatian @ 20.144171
16 Austrian @ 20.635609
17 Hungarian @ 21.578892
18 Italian_Jewish @ 23.665329
19 Portuguese @ 23.728519
20 Spanish_Andalucia @ 23.783339

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% Greek @ 6.175240

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Lithuanian +25% South_Italian @ 5.525734

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek + Greek + Lithuanian + South_Italian @ 5.525734
2 Greek + Lithuanian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 5.640310
3 Belorussian + Greek + Greek + South_Italian @ 5.836353
4 Greek + Lithuanian + South_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 5.837626
5 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + South_Italian + South_Italian @ 5.849574
6 Greek + Lithuanian + South_Italian + South_Italian @ 5.868747
7 Cyprian + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.882193
8 Greek + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian @ 5.951412
9 Greek + Greek + Lithuanian + West_Sicilian @ 6.018646
10 East_Sicilian + Greek + Lithuanian + South_Italian @ 6.034550
11 East_Sicilian + Greek + Greek + Lithuanian @ 6.035156
12 Croatian + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 6.039100
13 Estonian_Polish + Greek + Greek + South_Italian @ 6.039804
14 Central_Greek + Greek + Lithuanian + South_Italian @ 6.063391
15 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Greek @ 6.086690
16 Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + South_Italian @ 6.101039
17 Cyprian + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 6.103363
18 Cyprian + Greek + Lithuanian + North_Italian @ 6.111576
19 Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + South_Italian @ 6.124891
20 Central_Greek + Greek + Lithuanian + West_Sicilian @ 6.133683

Kit T248589

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.09
2 Atlantic 18.36
3 West_Med 14.22
4 North_Sea 12.1
5 Baltic 12.04
6 West_Asian 10.97
7 Eastern_Euro 6.28
8 Red_Sea 3.89
9 Amerindian 0.44
10 Siberian 0.31
11 Oceanian 0.28
12 Southeast_Asian 0.02

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.41
2 Bulgarian 6.8
3 Greek_Thessaly 7
4 Tuscan 8.08
5 Italian_Abruzzo 8.27
6 Romanian 8.75
7 West_Sicilian 9.51
8 Central_Greek 9.88
9 East_Sicilian 10.54
10 Ashkenazi 10.7
11 North_Italian 11.78
12 Serbian 11.81
13 South_Italian 12.73
14 Italian_Jewish 16.71
15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.16
16 Austrian 17.84
17 Moldavian 17.91
18 Algerian_Jewish 17.94
19 Spanish_Extremadura 18.28
20 Portuguese 18.34

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.5% South_Italian + 41.5% Austrian @ 2
2 59% Bulgarian + 41% West_Sicilian @ 2.18
3 52.2% Romanian + 47.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.38
4 81.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 18.9% Lithuanian @ 2.43
5 86.2% Greek + 13.8% Irish @ 2.44
6 79.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.6% Belorussian @ 2.46
7 79.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.48
8 86.5% Greek + 13.5% West_Scottish @ 2.49
9 84.8% Greek + 15.2% North_German @ 2.5
10 78.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.57
11 86.2% Greek + 13.8% Danish @ 2.61
12 85.8% Greek + 14.2% Southeast_English @ 2.61
13 86.3% Greek + 13.7% North_Dutch @ 2.62
14 75.5% West_Sicilian + 24.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.69
15 78.8% West_Sicilian + 21.2% Lithuanian @ 2.7
16 87.2% Greek + 12.8% Orcadian @ 2.72
17 75.7% West_Sicilian + 24.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.73
18 83.1% Greek + 16.9% South_Dutch @ 2.76
19 65% Central_Greek + 35% Austrian @ 2.77
20 77% West_Sicilian + 23% Belorussian @ 2.81

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 6.223310
2 Bulgarian @ 7.892367
3 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.111527
4 Tuscan @ 9.153785
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.526786
6 Romanian @ 10.224137
7 West_Sicilian @ 10.863397
8 Central_Greek @ 11.476597
9 East_Sicilian @ 12.124920
10 Ashkenazi @ 12.254151
11 North_Italian @ 13.521622
12 Serbian @ 13.867661
13 South_Italian @ 14.812563
14 Italian_Jewish @ 19.319870
15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 19.836172
16 Algerian_Jewish @ 20.702631
17 Austrian @ 20.864161
18 Moldavian @ 20.933855
19 Spanish_Extremadura @ 21.209639
20 Portuguese @ 21.283489

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Romanian +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.666849

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Southwest_French @ 2.159329

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belorussian + Cyprian + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.683000
2 Cyprian + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.783377
3 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.939177
4 Italian_Abruzzo + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 1.952444
5 Cyprian + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.968820
6 Austrian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 1.987476
7 Belorussian + Cyprian + South_Italian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.987882
8 Croatian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_French @ 1.991202
9 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Southwest_French @ 2.015131
10 Belorussian + Cyprian + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.030068
11 Belorussian + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 2.032157
12 Cyprian + South_Italian + Southwest_Russian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.047143
13 Cyprian + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.055911
14 Bulgarian + Croatian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.073737
15 Belorussian + Cyprian + South_Italian + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.076450
16 Cyprian + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.083311
17 Belorussian + Cyprian + South_Italian + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.103250
18 Cyprian + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.107273
19 Bulgarian + Croatian + Lebanese_Christian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.118969
20 Cyprian + Lithuanian + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.124671

Kit M159271

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 19.82
2 West_Med 17.21
3 North_Sea 15.61
4 Atlantic 15.09
5 West_Asian 12.52
6 Baltic 11.03
7 Eastern_Euro 4.28
8 Red_Sea 2.93
9 Southeast_Asian 1.14
10 Sub-Saharan 0.34
11 Oceanian 0.03

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.49
2 Greek 7.1
3 Tuscan 7.24
4 Bulgarian 8.21
5 Italian_Abruzzo 8.31
6 Central_Greek 9.31
7 Romanian 9.4
8 East_Sicilian 10.16
9 West_Sicilian 10.49
10 North_Italian 10.83
11 Ashkenazi 10.9
12 South_Italian 12.43
13 Serbian 12.47
14 Italian_Jewish 16.86
15 Portuguese 17.46
16 Spanish_Galicia 17.61
17 Spanish_Extremadura 17.91
18 Sephardic_Jewish 18.13
19 Moldavian 18.18
20 Spanish_Murcia 18.4

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.6% Greek_Thessaly + 16.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.68
2 84.1% Greek_Thessaly + 15.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.78
3 90.2% Greek_Thessaly + 9.8% French_Basque @ 2.78
4 84.7% Greek_Thessaly + 15.3% French @ 2.79
5 85.7% Greek_Thessaly + 14.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.86
6 85.1% Greek_Thessaly + 14.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.88
7 84.1% Greek_Thessaly + 15.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.88
8 88.8% Greek_Thessaly + 11.2% Southwest_English @ 2.89
9 75.3% Greek_Thessaly + 24.7% North_Italian @ 2.9
10 86.7% Greek_Thessaly + 13.3% South_Dutch @ 2.9
11 86.5% Greek_Thessaly + 13.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.9
12 86.9% Greek_Thessaly + 13.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.9
13 86.9% Greek_Thessaly + 13.1% Southwest_French @ 2.92
14 89.2% Greek_Thessaly + 10.8% Southeast_English @ 2.92
15 89.8% Greek_Thessaly + 10.2% Irish @ 2.95
16 84.8% Greek_Thessaly + 15.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.98
17 90.1% Greek_Thessaly + 9.9% West_Scottish @ 3
18 64.9% South_Italian + 35.1% East_German @ 3
19 83.8% Greek_Thessaly + 16.2% Portuguese @ 3
20 84.1% Greek_Thessaly + 15.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.01

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 5.125424
2 Tuscan @ 8.257306
3 Greek @ 8.290631
4 Bulgarian @ 9.438915
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.581445
6 Romanian @ 10.842511
7 Central_Greek @ 10.844767
8 East_Sicilian @ 11.675786
9 West_Sicilian @ 12.118871
10 Ashkenazi @ 12.429746
11 North_Italian @ 12.543737
12 Serbian @ 14.512166
13 South_Italian @ 14.519662
14 Italian_Jewish @ 19.519798
15 Portuguese @ 20.324556
16 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.553175
17 Spanish_Extremadura @ 20.852890
18 Sephardic_Jewish @ 20.977928
19 Moldavian @ 21.132082
20 Algerian_Jewish @ 21.413208

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Tuscan @ 4.239145

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% Romanian +25% Tuscan @ 2.825739

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Central_Greek + East_German + Greek_Thessaly + South_Italian @ 2.764157
2 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + Romanian @ 2.784242
3 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Romanian + Tuscan @ 2.825739
4 Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.865078
5 Greek + Greek_Thessaly + South_Italian + West_German @ 2.913161
6 East_German + Greek_Thessaly + South_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.969006
7 Central_Greek + French + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly @ 2.998039
8 East_German + East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly + South_Italian @ 3.002066
9 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Hungarian + Tuscan @ 3.012558
10 East_German + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Italian @ 3.026691
11 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + East_German + Greek_Thessaly @ 3.053864
12 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 3.057405
13 Central_Greek + French + Greek + Greek_Thessaly @ 3.061846
14 East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + Romanian @ 3.077745
15 Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + Romanian + South_Italian @ 3.113175
16 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 3.116747
17 Central_Greek + East_German + East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly @ 3.126873
18 Central_Greek + Greek + Greek_Thessaly + West_German @ 3.128553
19 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + South_Dutch + South_Italian @ 3.129149
20 French + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + South_Italian @ 3.136969

Percivalle
04-21-2018, 08:11 PM
Well let's not talk about my reading skills.
However, you seem to imply that the results are not so strange because there used to be a Slavic speaking minority, correct??
Well, that doesn't make sense because those results are not because of that but because people from Central Macedonia regardless Greek speaking or Slavic speaking, are immediate between the Greek_Thessaly reference and the Bulgarian reference.

Capeesh??

You seem to imply that overthere none mixed and there is no difference between people regardless Greek speaking or Slavic speaking. So, explain me: why are there no differences?

Who do you think these academic samples are based on? FYI in the academic sample reference of Greek Macedonia there is even an outlier who plots towards Armenia and Georgia. Keep believing that all this stuff is accurate.

Ajeje Brazorf
04-21-2018, 08:16 PM
You seem to imply that overthere none mixed and there is no difference between people regardless Greek speaking or Slavic speaking. So, explain me: why are there no differences?

Who do you think these academic samples are based on? FYI in the academic sample reference of Greek Macedonia there is even an outlier who plots towards Armenia and Georgia. Keep believing that all this stuff is accurate.

The two Greek samples of Eurogenes K15 are from Thessaly and Thessaloniki, right?

Bosniensis
04-21-2018, 08:23 PM
Strabo in Geographica: chapter Illyria:

"Thracians and Illyrians are mixed with Scythians"

Russian Academy of Science:

"Russians and Slavic people are Scythians"


So there you go.. "Slavic influence" is here for thousands of years.

Percivalle
04-21-2018, 08:25 PM
Mate, you need to get to know better this region and it's history.
There were no such borders in the past as today and people from Central Macedonia did mix among each other, regardless Greek speaking or Slavic speaking.
There was no mixing only with muslims...

And for those from Macedonia who plot towards Armenia and Georgia the explanation is more recent.
The Pontic Greeks who were chased out of Anatolia, have settled mostly in Macedonia and today many people there, are mixed with those pontians.

Thanks, that's exactly what I thought.

Yes, the outlier who plots towards Armenia and Georgia is indeed a Pontic Greek.