Comparison of South Italians: Campanians vs Lucanians/Apulians -- GEDMatch results.

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In general it appears the southwest of Italy (Campania, Calabria, Sicily) has more Near Eastern input than does Apulia, Abruzzo, or Lucania.

Some, but not all, Apulians are so northern shifted that they could be modeled as mainland Greeks.

Apulia and Lucania:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.26
2 Atlantic 18.7
3 West_Med 16.55
4 West_Asian 13.81
5 North_Sea 6.75
6 Baltic 6.68
7 Red_Sea 5.15
8 Eastern_Euro 1.55
9 Northeast_African 0.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 5.01
2 West_Sicilian 5.6
3 East_Sicilian 6.41
4 Italian_Abruzzo 6.61
5 Central_Greek 6.7
6 Sephardic_Jewish 7.87
7 Italian_Jewish 8.33
8 Algerian_Jewish 9.15
9 Ashkenazi 9.32
10 Greek 9.5
11 Tuscan 11.29
12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.02
13 Greek_Thessaly 12.41
14 Cyprian 15.1
15 Libyan_Jewish 15.85
16 Bulgarian 17.48
17 North_Italian 17.49
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.6
19 Turkish 19.83
20 Romanian 19.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.3% Cyprian + 28.7% French_Basque @ 3.65
2 62.7% Cyprian + 37.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.67
3 66.4% Cyprian + 33.6% Southwest_French @ 3.95
4 65.1% Cyprian + 34.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.96
5 61.3% Cyprian + 38.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.03
6 57% South_Italian + 43% West_Sicilian @ 4.09
7 79.3% West_Sicilian + 20.7% Cyprian @ 4.11
8 63.7% Cyprian + 36.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.2
9 86.9% West_Sicilian + 13.1% Assyrian @ 4.3
10 87.4% West_Sicilian + 12.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.3
11 93.4% South_Italian + 6.6% French_Basque @ 4.31
12 86.9% West_Sicilian + 13.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.36
13 83.8% West_Sicilian + 16.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.37
14 87.9% West_Sicilian + 12.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.39
15 56.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 43.7% Greek @ 4.39
16 86.7% West_Sicilian + 13.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.39
17 88.1% West_Sicilian + 11.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.41
18 63.5% Cyprian + 36.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.47
19 91.6% South_Italian + 8.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.48
20 66% West_Sicilian + 34% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.5



Bari, Apulia:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.32
2 West_Med 17.81
3 Atlantic 13.01
4 North_Sea 12.67
5 West_Asian 11.84
6 Baltic 8.29
7 Red_Sea 7.03
8 Eastern_Euro 3.6
9 Northeast_African 0.41
10 Oceanian 0.03
11 Amerindian 0.01
12 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 4.4
2 Central_Greek 4.74
3 Ashkenazi 5.26
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.4
5 Italian_Abruzzo 5.66
6 West_Sicilian 6.64
7 South_Italian 7.18
8 Greek 7.24
9 Tuscan 8.16
10 Italian_Jewish 10.29
11 Sephardic_Jewish 11.65
12 Algerian_Jewish 12.03
13 Bulgarian 13.16
14 North_Italian 14.27
15 Romanian 14.89
16 Tunisian_Jewish 15.71
17 Libyan_Jewish 16.18
18 Serbian 17.79
19 Cyprian 18.3
20 Spanish_Extremadura 21.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.2% Greek_Thessaly + 32.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.27
2 70.1% Greek_Thessaly + 29.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.33
3 56.8% East_Sicilian + 43.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.46
4 71.4% Greek_Thessaly + 28.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.68
5 76.9% Greek_Thessaly + 23.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.74
6 87.9% East_Sicilian + 12.1% Hungarian @ 2.78
7 63.2% Ashkenazi + 36.8% Tuscan @ 2.79
8 91.5% East_Sicilian + 8.5% North_Swedish @ 2.86
9 89.4% East_Sicilian + 10.6% East_German @ 2.87
10 90.6% East_Sicilian + 9.4% Ukrainian @ 2.89
11 91.6% East_Sicilian + 8.4% Swedish @ 2.9
12 84.2% East_Sicilian + 15.8% Serbian @ 2.91
13 90.4% East_Sicilian + 9.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.91
14 91.7% East_Sicilian + 8.3% Finnish @ 2.92
15 91.7% East_Sicilian + 8.3% Norwegian @ 2.92
16 92.2% East_Sicilian + 7.8% Estonian @ 2.93
17 91.5% East_Sicilian + 8.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.94
18 89.3% East_Sicilian + 10.7% West_German @ 2.94
19 92.1% East_Sicilian + 7.9% West_Norwegian @ 2.96
20 90.8% East_Sicilian + 9.2% South_Polish @ 3.01



Brindisi, Apulia:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.88
2 West_Med 17.78
3 West_Asian 14.99
4 North_Sea 11.89
5 Atlantic 11.5
6 Baltic 9.45
7 Eastern_Euro 3.13
8 Red_Sea 2.51
9 Oceanian 1.39
10 Amerindian 0.49

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 4.16
2 East_Sicilian 5.98
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.07
4 South_Italian 6.73
5 Greek 6.88
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7
7 Ashkenazi 7.56
8 West_Sicilian 8.97
9 Tuscan 10.96
10 Italian_Jewish 11.45
11 Sephardic_Jewish 12.95
12 Algerian_Jewish 13.13
13 Bulgarian 13.49
14 Romanian 15.67
15 Tunisian_Jewish 16.62
16 North_Italian 16.73
17 Cyprian 17.13
18 Libyan_Jewish 17.24
19 Serbian 19.2
20 Turkish 19.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% Central_Greek + 33.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.32
2 53.6% Greek_Thessaly + 46.4% South_Italian @ 3.36
3 77.3% Greek_Thessaly + 22.7% Cyprian @ 3.56
4 94.8% Central_Greek + 5.2% Ukrainian @ 3.76
5 94.7% Central_Greek + 5.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.76
6 93.2% Central_Greek + 6.8% Moldavian @ 3.78
7 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Estonian @ 3.8
8 96% Central_Greek + 4% Lithuanian @ 3.8
9 93.9% Central_Greek + 6.1% Hungarian @ 3.8
10 95.3% Central_Greek + 4.7% South_Polish @ 3.83
11 88.9% Central_Greek + 11.1% Bulgarian @ 3.83
12 94.4% Central_Greek + 5.6% Croatian @ 3.86
13 90.9% Central_Greek + 9.1% Romanian @ 3.87
14 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.87
15 96.1% Central_Greek + 3.9% Finnish @ 3.88
16 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Polish @ 3.88
17 96.1% Central_Greek + 3.9% Belorussian @ 3.88
18 95.9% Central_Greek + 4.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.88
19 96.4% Central_Greek + 3.6% La_Brana-1 @ 3.9
20 96.3% Central_Greek + 3.7% Swedish @ 3.9



Taranto, Apulia:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.67
2 Atlantic 18.92
3 West_Asian 16.51
4 West_Med 13.22
5 Baltic 7.36
6 Eastern_Euro 5.26
7 Red_Sea 5.08
8 North_Sea 4.74
9 Northeast_African 0.67
10 Oceanian 0.59

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 7.56
2 Central_Greek 7.91
3 East_Sicilian 8.38
4 West_Sicilian 8.42
5 South_Italian 8.48
6 Greek 8.84
7 Ashkenazi 9.59
8 Sephardic_Jewish 10.48
9 Italian_Jewish 11.86
10 Algerian_Jewish 12.63
11 Greek_Thessaly 12.97
12 Tuscan 13.13
13 Tunisian_Jewish 14.29
14 Bulgarian 15.67
15 Cyprian 16.25
16 Turkish 17.17
17 Romanian 18.11
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.47
19 Libyan_Jewish 18.51
20 North_Italian 18.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.8% West_Sicilian + 27.2% Turkish @ 5.87
2 79.9% West_Sicilian + 20.1% Kurdish @ 5.9
3 84.8% West_Sicilian + 15.2% Adygei @ 5.97
4 55% Iranian_Jewish + 45% Southwest_French @ 5.99
5 77.9% West_Sicilian + 22.1% Azeri @ 6.03
6 57.1% Greek + 42.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.08
7 86% West_Sicilian + 14% Georgian @ 6.11
8 86.1% West_Sicilian + 13.9% North_Ossetian @ 6.11
9 87.2% West_Sicilian + 12.8% Abhkasian @ 6.12
10 85% West_Sicilian + 15% Kabardin @ 6.17
11 60.6% Iranian_Jewish + 39.4% French_Basque @ 6.19
12 81.5% West_Sicilian + 18.5% Iranian @ 6.19
13 73.4% Greek + 26.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.19
14 63% Sephardic_Jewish + 37% Bulgarian @ 6.22
15 80.5% West_Sicilian + 19.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.22
16 62.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 37.5% Southwest_French @ 6.24
17 67.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 32.2% French_Basque @ 6.27
18 83.5% West_Sicilian + 16.5% Kumyk @ 6.28
19 85.5% West_Sicilian + 14.5% Balkar @ 6.31
20 51.4% Iranian_Jewish + 48.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 6.35


Avellino, Campania:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.45
2 West_Med 22.68
3 West_Asian 15.42
4 North_Sea 9.94
5 Atlantic 9.45
6 Baltic 4.63
7 Red_Sea 2.77
8 Eastern_Euro 1.06
9 Southeast_Asian 0.65
10 Northeast_African 0.65
11 Oceanian 0.28
12 Sub-Saharan 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 6.62
2 Central_Greek 8.38
3 Italian_Jewish 8.53
4 East_Sicilian 8.69
5 Algerian_Jewish 9.68
6 Sephardic_Jewish 10.86
7 Ashkenazi 11.12
8 West_Sicilian 11.32
9 Italian_Abruzzo 11.39
10 Cyprian 13.09
11 Greek_Thessaly 13.11
12 Greek 13.37
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.43
14 Tunisian_Jewish 13.56
15 Tuscan 15.17
16 Lebanese_Muslim 18.18
17 Syrian 19.42
18 Samaritan 19.94
19 Turkish 20.37
20 North_Italian 21.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% South_Italian + 6% Sardinian @ 6.33
2 87% South_Italian + 13% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.38
3 87.2% South_Italian + 12.8% Cyprian @ 6.4
4 94.2% South_Italian + 5.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.5
5 94.2% South_Italian + 5.8% Samaritan @ 6.52
6 84% South_Italian + 16% Italian_Jewish @ 6.54
7 95.5% South_Italian + 4.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.54
8 89.3% South_Italian + 10.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 6.57
9 97.2% South_Italian + 2.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.59
10 97.5% South_Italian + 2.5% Armenian @ 6.59
11 98% South_Italian + 2% Assyrian @ 6.6
12 99.4% South_Italian + 0.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.62
13 99.9% South_Italian + 0.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.62
14 100% South_Italian + 0% Abhkasian @ 6.62
15 100% South_Italian + 0% Adygei @ 6.62
16 100% South_Italian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 6.62
17 100% South_Italian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 6.62
18 100% South_Italian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 6.62
19 100% South_Italian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 6.62
20 100% South_Italian + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 6.62


Salerno, Campania:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.24
2 West_Med 15.35
3 West_Asian 13.48
4 North_Sea 11.09
5 Atlantic 10.87
6 Red_Sea 7.16
7 Baltic 4.91
8 Eastern_Euro 3.51
9 South_Asian 0.82
10 Oceanian 0.57

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 5.82
2 Italian_Jewish 5.83
3 East_Sicilian 5.98
4 South_Italian 6.02
5 Central_Greek 6.25
6 Sephardic_Jewish 7.18
7 Algerian_Jewish 8.17
8 Italian_Abruzzo 8.51
9 West_Sicilian 8.92
10 Tunisian_Jewish 10.67
11 Libyan_Jewish 11.15
12 Greek_Thessaly 11.3
13 Greek 11.78
14 Cyprian 12.17
15 Tuscan 13.98
16 Lebanese_Muslim 15.07
17 Syrian 15.82
18 Samaritan 17.72
19 Turkish 18.06
20 Jordanian 18.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.4% Cyprian + 26.6% West_German @ 2.46
2 78.3% Cyprian + 21.7% West_Norwegian @ 2.7
3 77.7% Cyprian + 22.3% Norwegian @ 2.75
4 58.8% Tuscan + 41.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.9
5 76.4% Cyprian + 23.6% Southwest_English @ 2.9
6 77.2% Cyprian + 22.8% North_Dutch @ 2.95
7 77.8% Cyprian + 22.2% Swedish @ 3.01
8 72% Cyprian + 28% French @ 3.01
9 76.7% Cyprian + 23.3% Southeast_English @ 3.01
10 77.9% Cyprian + 22.1% Orcadian @ 3.01
11 61.8% Lebanese_Christian + 38.2% French @ 3.01
12 77.1% Cyprian + 22.9% Danish @ 3.07
13 50.9% Lebanese_Druze + 49.1% North_Italian @ 3.08
14 77.7% Cyprian + 22.3% West_Scottish @ 3.11
15 74.1% Cyprian + 25.9% South_Dutch @ 3.13
16 77.5% Cyprian + 22.5% Irish @ 3.2
17 51.8% Lebanese_Christian + 48.2% North_Italian @ 3.2
18 86% Central_Greek + 14% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.26
19 58.7% Lebanese_Druze + 41.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.29
20 59.5% Lebanese_Christian + 40.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.29


Salerno, Campania:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.99
2 West_Med 17.13
3 West_Asian 15.91
4 Atlantic 12.3
5 North_Sea 12.06
6 Baltic 4.57
7 Red_Sea 3.92
8 South_Asian 1.3
9 Eastern_Euro 0.72
10 Southeast_Asian 0.59
11 Oceanian 0.35
12 Northeast_African 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 4.28
2 Central_Greek 5.33
3 East_Sicilian 5.72
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.22
5 Italian_Jewish 7.45
6 Ashkenazi 8.11
7 West_Sicilian 8.55
8 Sephardic_Jewish 9.11
9 Algerian_Jewish 9.79
10 Greek_Thessaly 10.98
11 Greek 11.47
12 Tuscan 12.69
13 Tunisian_Jewish 12.77
14 Libyan_Jewish 13.56
15 Cyprian 13.57
16 Lebanese_Muslim 16.81
17 Turkish 17.8
18 Syrian 18.12
19 Bulgarian 18.7
20 North_Italian 19.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.2% South_Italian + 3.8% Tabassaran @ 4.04
2 96.8% South_Italian + 3.2% West_Norwegian @ 4.05
3 94.4% South_Italian + 5.6% Armenian @ 4.07
4 96.1% South_Italian + 3.9% West_German @ 4.08
5 96.9% South_Italian + 3.1% Norwegian @ 4.08
6 97% South_Italian + 3% Swedish @ 4.09
7 94.6% South_Italian + 5.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.1
8 94.5% South_Italian + 5.5% Assyrian @ 4.1
9 97.1% South_Italian + 2.9% Orcadian @ 4.1
10 94.8% South_Italian + 5.2% Azeri @ 4.11
11 96.8% South_Italian + 3.2% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.12
12 95.5% South_Italian + 4.5% Kurdish @ 4.12
13 96.8% South_Italian + 3.2% Lezgin @ 4.12
14 97.3% South_Italian + 2.7% North_Swedish @ 4.13
15 95.2% South_Italian + 4.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.13
16 97.2% South_Italian + 2.8% North_Dutch @ 4.13
17 95.9% South_Italian + 4.1% Iranian @ 4.14
18 97.3% South_Italian + 2.7% Danish @ 4.14
19 97.3% South_Italian + 2.7% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.14
20 97.2% South_Italian + 2.8% Makrani @ 4.14


Avellino, Campania:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.97
2 West_Med 16.85
3 North_Sea 14.83
4 West_Asian 14.5
5 Atlantic 10.6
6 Red_Sea 6.98
7 Eastern_Euro 3.11
8 Baltic 3.01
9 Oceanian 0.5
10 Amerindian 0.26
11 Southeast_Asian 0.2
12 Northeast_African 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 6.27
2 Central_Greek 6.47
3 Ashkenazi 6.77
4 South_Italian 7.32
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.6
6 Italian_Jewish 8.2
7 West_Sicilian 9.18
8 Sephardic_Jewish 10.24
9 Greek_Thessaly 10.3
10 Algerian_Jewish 11
11 Tuscan 12.21
12 Greek 12.35
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.22
14 Tunisian_Jewish 13.89
15 Cyprian 15.45
16 Lebanese_Muslim 18
17 North_Italian 18.33
18 Bulgarian 18.35
19 Syrian 18.54
20 Turkish 19.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% Cyprian + 33.3% West_German @ 4.09
2 55.8% Lebanese_Christian + 44.2% French @ 4.46
3 73% Cyprian + 27% West_Norwegian @ 4.57
4 65% Cyprian + 35% French @ 4.6
5 72.3% Cyprian + 27.7% Orcadian @ 4.62
6 70.6% Cyprian + 29.4% Southwest_English @ 4.66
7 53.2% Lebanese_Christian + 46.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.79
8 51% Kurdish_Jewish + 49% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.84
9 72.4% Cyprian + 27.6% Norwegian @ 4.9
10 71.8% Cyprian + 28.2% North_Dutch @ 5.07
11 57.3% Samaritan + 42.7% French @ 5.08
12 71.1% Cyprian + 28.9% Southeast_English @ 5.08
13 68.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 31.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.12
14 82.4% Italian_Jewish + 17.6% West_German @ 5.19
15 86.3% Italian_Jewish + 13.7% West_Norwegian @ 5.22
16 72.4% Cyprian + 27.6% West_Scottish @ 5.24
17 67.9% Cyprian + 32.1% South_Dutch @ 5.26
18 86% Italian_Jewish + 14% Norwegian @ 5.29
19 86% Italian_Jewish + 14% Swedish @ 5.3
20 59.4% Samaritan + 40.6% West_German @ 5.3


Campania, various towns:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.82
2 West_Med 17.16
3 West_Asian 16.35
4 Atlantic 16.32
5 North_Sea 10.39
6 Red_Sea 7.53
7 Baltic 4.52
8 Northeast_African 0.96
9 South_Asian 0.54
10 Oceanian 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 4.28
2 Italian_Abruzzo 4.31
3 South_Italian 5.21
4 Central_Greek 5.34
5 West_Sicilian 6.38
6 Ashkenazi 7.84
7 Italian_Jewish 9.01
8 Sephardic_Jewish 9.25
9 Tuscan 9.54
10 Greek 10.55
11 Greek_Thessaly 10.87
12 Algerian_Jewish 11.07
13 Tunisian_Jewish 13.66
14 Libyan_Jewish 15.85
15 North_Italian 15.99
16 Cyprian 16.49
17 Bulgarian 17.06
18 Turkish 18.58
19 Romanian 18.82
20 Lebanese_Muslim 18.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% Tuscan + 32.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.31
2 72.7% Tuscan + 27.3% Assyrian @ 3.43
3 76.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 23.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.44
4 74.1% Tuscan + 25.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.45
5 83.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 16.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.46
6 60.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 39.7% South_Italian @ 3.48
7 88.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 11.5% Syrian @ 3.51
8 54.4% North_Italian + 45.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.51
9 50.6% East_Sicilian + 49.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.52
10 73.7% Tuscan + 26.3% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.53
11 90.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 9.7% Samaritan @ 3.57
12 91% Italian_Abruzzo + 9% Bedouin @ 3.58
13 77.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 22.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.59
14 86.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 13.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.61
15 74.2% Tuscan + 25.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.63
16 94% Italian_Abruzzo + 6% Saudi @ 3.64
17 89.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 10.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.66
18 68.6% Tuscan + 31.4% Syrian @ 3.66
19 59% Lebanese_Muslim + 41% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.68
20 91% Italian_Abruzzo + 9% Jordanian @ 3.69



Salerno, Campania:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.1
2 West_Med 18.52
3 West_Asian 15.91
4 Atlantic 14.14
5 North_Sea 7.85
6 Red_Sea 7.54
7 Baltic 4.26
8 Eastern_Euro 1.67
9 Northeast_African 0.77
10 Oceanian 0.62
11 Amerindian 0.4
12 Southeast_Asian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 3.21
2 East_Sicilian 3.57
3 Central_Greek 4.58
4 Italian_Abruzzo 6.17
5 Italian_Jewish 6.54
6 West_Sicilian 6.72
7 Sephardic_Jewish 6.79
8 Ashkenazi 6.87
9 Algerian_Jewish 8.29
10 Greek 10.5
11 Tunisian_Jewish 11.3
12 Greek_Thessaly 11.45
13 Tuscan 11.55
14 Cyprian 13.47
15 Libyan_Jewish 13.64
16 Lebanese_Muslim 16.87
17 Syrian 17.61
18 Turkish 17.81
19 North_Italian 18.11
20 Bulgarian 18.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.8% Cyprian + 31.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.58
2 54% Tuscan + 46% Cyprian @ 2.61
3 62.8% Central_Greek + 37.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.73
4 66.6% Cyprian + 33.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.75
5 73.3% East_Sicilian + 26.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.76
6 58.6% South_Italian + 41.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.8
7 65% Cyprian + 35% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.81
8 57.6% Cyprian + 42.4% North_Italian @ 2.83
9 67.2% Cyprian + 32.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.94
10 65.6% Cyprian + 34.4% Portuguese @ 2.94
11 95.3% South_Italian + 4.7% Moroccan @ 2.96
12 96.6% South_Italian + 3.4% Saudi @ 2.97
13 83.8% South_Italian + 16.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.98
14 87% East_Sicilian + 13% Cyprian @ 2.99
15 69.7% Cyprian + 30.3% Southwest_French @ 2.99
16 84% South_Italian + 16% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.99
17 96.1% South_Italian + 3.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.03
18 83.7% South_Italian + 16.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.03
19 95.7% South_Italian + 4.3% Bedouin @ 3.04
20 75.8% East_Sicilian + 24.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.05



Salerno, Campania:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.37
2 West_Asian 16.48
3 West_Med 15.85
4 Atlantic 14.73
5 Red_Sea 7.08
6 Baltic 6.91
7 North_Sea 4.81
8 Eastern_Euro 2.31
9 Northeast_African 0.74
10 Siberian 0.39
11 Oceanian 0.23
12 South_Asian 0.05
13 Sub-Saharan 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 4.77
2 East_Sicilian 5.84
3 Central_Greek 6.09
4 Sephardic_Jewish 6.31
5 Italian_Jewish 7.71
6 Ashkenazi 7.72
7 Italian_Abruzzo 8.16
8 Algerian_Jewish 8.51
9 West_Sicilian 8.54
10 Tunisian_Jewish 10.2
11 Greek 10.4
12 Cyprian 11.68
13 Greek_Thessaly 12.83
14 Libyan_Jewish 14.08
15 Tuscan 14.16
16 Lebanese_Muslim 14.87
17 Syrian 16.05
18 Turkish 16.26
19 Bulgarian 18.3
20 Samaritan 18.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 34.8% Greek @ 3.58
2 74.4% Cyprian + 25.6% Southwest_French @ 3.6
3 51.4% Central_Greek + 48.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.74
4 60.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 39.6% Cyprian @ 3.78
5 66.7% Central_Greek + 33.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.84
6 78.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 21.7% Bulgarian @ 3.92
7 72% Cyprian + 28% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.99
8 84.7% South_Italian + 15.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4
9 72.2% Cyprian + 27.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.02
10 70.9% Cyprian + 29.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.02
11 53.4% Greek + 46.6% Cyprian @ 4.03
12 50.6% Tunisian_Jewish + 49.4% Greek @ 4.04
13 78.5% Cyprian + 21.5% French_Basque @ 4.06
14 86.3% South_Italian + 13.7% Syrian @ 4.07
15 72.7% Cyprian + 27.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.08
16 86.5% South_Italian + 13.5% Turkish @ 4.09
17 66.3% South_Italian + 33.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.09
18 89.8% South_Italian + 10.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.1
19 72.5% East_Sicilian + 27.5% Cyprian @ 4.11
20 89.9% South_Italian + 10.1% Bedouin @ 4.12

[Sikeliot]

I am unsure what ancient Greeks were like but it looks like Apulians are closer to MODERN mainland Greeks.

[Bosniensis]

I am unsure what ancient Greeks were like but it looks like Apulians are closer to MODERN mainland Greeks.

Southern Italy is closer to Greeks.... because they are Greeks.

Why are you amused by the fact that Greeks are close to Greeks?

Italians as a historical people never existed, Italy (as a region) was populated by Greeks, Celts, Etruscans (Lydians from Anatolia) etc..

[Alessio]

The Campanians posted are very similar if not the same to the Neapolitan samples I have.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.54
2 West_Med 18.13
3 West_Asian 14.33
4 Atlantic 12.27
5 North_Sea 10.95
6 Red_Sea 5.71
7 Eastern_Euro 4.55
8 Baltic 3.62
9 Northeast_African 1.37
10 Southeast_Asian 1.3
11 Oceanian 0.13
12 South_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 3.93
2 Central_Greek 4.26
3 South_Italian 5.28
4 Ashkenazi 5.33
5 Italian_Abruzzo 5.79
6 West_Sicilian 6.55
7 Italian_Jewish 7.45
8 Sephardic_Jewish 9.05
9 Greek_Thessaly 9.32
10 Greek 9.55
11 Algerian_Jewish 9.56
12 Tuscan 10.65
13 Tunisian_Jewish 13.1
14 Libyan_Jewish 13.74
15 Cyprian 15.11
16 Bulgarian 16.69
17 North_Italian 16.94
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.29
19 Romanian 18.49
20 Turkish 18.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.1% Cyprian + 37.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.31
2 72.4% Central_Greek + 27.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.44
3 84.6% Central_Greek + 15.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.51
4 65.1% Cyprian + 34.9% French @ 3.51
5 74.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 25.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.59
6 61.6% Cyprian + 38.4% Portuguese @ 3.65
7 92.4% Central_Greek + 7.6% Moroccan @ 3.7
8 91.8% Central_Greek + 8.2% Algerian @ 3.7
9 80.7% Central_Greek + 19.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.71
10 98.8% East_Sicilian + 1.2% Dai @ 3.73
11 98.8% East_Sicilian + 1.2% She @ 3.73
12 98.8% East_Sicilian + 1.2% Vietnamese @ 3.73
13 98.7% East_Sicilian + 1.3% Miaozu @ 3.74
14 98.7% East_Sicilian + 1.3% Lahu @ 3.74
15 98.7% East_Sicilian + 1.3% Tujia @ 3.74
16 84.5% East_Sicilian + 15.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.74
17 98.7% East_Sicilian + 1.3% Cambodian @ 3.76
18 98.7% East_Sicilian + 1.3% Yizu @ 3.76
19 98.7% East_Sicilian + 1.3% Naxi @ 3.76
20 98.7% East_Sicilian + 1.3% Malay @ 3.77

[Teucer]

Apulians also get Cypriots in all of their matches. How do you explain the affinity if not for common ancient Greek descent?

EDIT: A couple also have Lebanese turn up. I thought these areas were supposed to be like Mainland Greece?

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Apulians also get Cypriots in all of their matches. How do you explain the affinity if not for common ancient Greek descent?

EDIT: A couple also have Lebanese turn up. I thought these areas were supposed to be like Mainland Greece?

I have trouble trusting Sikeliot for obvious reasons. People who have had DNA testing in south Italy are very few and I am sure that these individuals were born in America and have ancestors not only from Italy or, more likely, not only from the places indicated in this thread. I'd like to see their family tree.

[renaissance12]

I have trouble trusting Sikeliot for obvious reasons. People who have had DNA testing in south Italy are very few and I am sure that these individuals were born in America and have ancestors not only from Italy or, more likely, not only from the places indicated in this thread. I'd like to see their family tree.

Some people in Sicily have viking ancestors...

[AK-47]

I have trouble trusting Sikeliot for obvious reasons. People who have had DNA testing in south Italy are very few and I am sure that these individuals were born in America and have ancestors not only from Italy or, more likely, not only from the places indicated in this thread. I'd like to see their family tree.
So what are you accusing Sikeliot of doing?
And what data do you have to post on the subject that you deem legit and beyond repute?
Italian Americans up until relatively recently in the USA, were a very tight knit group and didn't intermarry often.

[Teucer]

I have trouble trusting Sikeliot for obvious reasons. People who have had DNA testing in south Italy are very few and I am sure that these individuals were born in America and have ancestors not only from Italy or, more likely, not only from the places indicated in this thread. I'd like to see their family tree.

I have no reason to distrust Sikeliot's gedmatch posts. Regarding the family tree concern, that criticism can apply to anyone's kit, even if they were born in the place they purport to come from.

The only issue I have with Sikeliot is his denial of any ancient Greek ancestry in Cyprus. Of course I am Greek Cypriot and this is a bias I clearly have and openly admit. So when I see results like these from Apulia that do have Cypriots come up in their matches, I get frustrated with Sikeliot's argument. The only way I can feasibly account for these results is this:

1) There is a common ancestry from mainland Greece that extends to South Italy and Cyprus. Since Sikeliot has argued Apulians are the closest to mainland Greeks in South Italy, the fact they match with Cypriots, regardless the distances, means something.

OR

2) The fact Lebanese also comes up means these areas are not identical to the mainland, and that Apulians have also received (or retained) ancestry from a population that is more comparable to the Levant than the Balkans. In that case, they are not good proxy for mainland Greece.

OR

3) Combination of the above

[AK-47]

I have no reason to distrust Sikeliot's gedmatch posts. Regarding the family tree concern, that criticism can apply to anyone's kit, even if they were born in the place they purport to come from.

The only issue I have with Sikeliot is his denial of any ancient Greek ancestry in Cyprus. Of course I am Greek Cypriot and this is a bias I clearly have and openly admit. So when I see results like these from Apulia that do have Cypriots come up in their matches, I get frustrated with Sikeliot's argument. The only way I can feasibly account for these results is this:

1) There is a common ancestry from mainland Greece from South Italy to Cyprus. Since Sikeliot has argued Apulians are the closest to mainland Greeks in South Italy, the fact they match with Cypriots, regardless the distances, means something.

OR

2) The fact Lebanese also comes up means these areas are not identical to the mainland, and that Apulians have also received (or retained) ancestry from a population that is more comparable to the Levant than the Balkans. In that case, they are not good proxy for mainland Greece.



I have no reason to distrust Sikeliot's gedmatch posts. Regarding the family tree concern, that criticism can apply to anyone's kit, even if they were born in the place they purport to come from.
Exactly.

[Teucer]

Exactly.

Amended my original post. Could be a combination of the two arguments I made also

[Ajeje Brazorf]

So what are you accusing Sikeliot of doing?
And what data do you have to post on the subject that you deem legit and beyond repute?
Italian Americans up until relatively recently in the USA, were a very tight knit group and didn't intermarry often.

Are you his lawyer? I am not accusing anyone and I respect Sikeliot, but he posted results of Jews trying to present them as Calabrians, posted a Lombard that was 1/4 Jewish and tried to sell it as a typical Lombard, or like that time that he posted results of Lazio that as populations had the Calabrians and Sicilians even before the Abruzzese. These are some of the reasons why I do not trust the results he posts.
Many Italian Americans have origins from different parts of south Italy and not only, for example, from a single city or province. This is why I say it would be good to see their family tree.

[Sikeliot]

I have trouble trusting Sikeliot for obvious reasons. People who have had DNA testing in south Italy are very few and I am sure that these individuals were born in America and have ancestors not only from Italy or, more likely, not only from the places indicated in this thread. I'd like to see their family tree.

If you go to GEDmatch and click their family trees you can see it shows all of their parents, grandparents, etc's surnames and the specific towns they were from. These are people of recent Italian immigrant background.

Besides, the thing no one is ever able to answer is, who could all of these Italian Americans be mixing with to produce such MENA shifted results? There is no such group in the US that they could be mixing with en masse to produce consistent results like this. It is impossible, because it is not true.

[Sikeliot]

Apulians also get Cypriots in all of their matches. How do you explain the affinity if not for common ancient Greek descent?

EDIT: A couple also have Lebanese turn up. I thought these areas were supposed to be like Mainland Greece?


Common Levantine affinity with Cypriots more than common Greek ancestry with them, I suspect.

The Apulians are close to the Peloponnese but more "south" shifted than them.

[Sikeliot]

Some people in Sicily have viking ancestors...

Northern European ancestry in Sicily is honestly so low, the lowest in Europe after Sardinia. If there is Viking ancestry it's in the low single digits.

[Sikeliot]

I have no reason to distrust Sikeliot's gedmatch posts. Regarding the family tree concern, that criticism can apply to anyone's kit, even if they were born in the place they purport to come from.

The only issue I have with Sikeliot is his denial of any ancient Greek ancestry in Cyprus. Of course I am Greek Cypriot and this is a bias I clearly have and openly admit. So when I see results like these from Apulia that do have Cypriots come up in their matches, I get frustrated with Sikeliot's argument. The only way I can feasibly account for these results is this:

1) There is a common ancestry from mainland Greece that extends to South Italy and Cyprus. Since Sikeliot has argued Apulians are the closest to mainland Greeks in South Italy, the fact they match with Cypriots, regardless the distances, means something.

OR

2) The fact Lebanese also comes up means these areas are not identical to the mainland, and that Apulians have also received (or retained) ancestry from a population that is more comparable to the Levant than the Balkans. In that case, they are not good proxy for mainland Greece.

OR

3) Combination of the above



For why Apulians score Cyprus, it is more likely the second of what you said, because Cypriots appear higher on the list for Apulians (and again higher for Sicilians/Calabrese) than for Peloponnesians or other mainland Greeks.

There is likely Mycenaean Greek ancestry in Cyprus (which explains why in studies like Sarno et al, Sardinian-like/EEF admixture is higher in Cyprus than in the Levant) but I don't think common mainland Greek ancestry could explain the phenomenon pictured above.

Also, the southern Italians further from mainland Greeks are in turn closer to Cypriots, so it is likely a third-party Levant-related source of admixture bringing southern Italians closer to Cyprus.

[AK-47]

Are you his lawyer? I am not accusing anyone and I respect Sikeliot, but he posted results of Jews trying to present them as Calabrians, posted a Lombard that was 1/4 Jewish and tried to sell it as a typical Lombard, or like that time that he posted results of Lazio that as populations had the Calabrians and Sicilians even before the Abruzzese. These are some of the reasons why I do not trust the results he posts.
Many Italian Americans have origins from different parts of south Italy and not only, for example, from a single city or province. This is why I say it would be good to see their family tree.
LOL.
So much butthurt in you.
Nah, I'm not Sikeliot's lawyer.
He doesn't need one to cut you down to size.
So much antisemitism on this site, much of the time posters are so low IQ, they don't even understand why Jewish posters are offended... :)

[Sikeliot]

Are you his lawyer? I am not accusing anyone and I respect Sikeliot, but he posted results of Jews trying to present them as Calabrians, posted a Lombard that was 1/4 Jewish and tried to sell it as a typical Lombard, or like that time that he posted results of Lazio that as populations had the Calabrians and Sicilians even before the Abruzzese. These are some of the reasons why I do not trust the results he posts.
Many Italian Americans have origins from different parts of south Italy and not only, for example, from a single city or province. This is why I say it would be good to see their family tree.



I have never posted a single Jewish person pretending they were Calabrese. YOU made that assumption because they scored Jewish first in their Oracle population, but I told you in their family tree and family surnames which were publicly uploaded, you could clearly see the person was 100% Calabrese with no Jewish ancestry. It was just inconceivable to you that a Calabrese might score components similar to Jews before the South Italian reference, but both groups are so similar it only takes very minor altering of percentages of components to turn a "South Italian" into a "Sephardi Jew" on a Gedmatch calculator. But this went entirely over your head.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

If you go to GEDmatch and click their family trees you can

Post their GEDmatch kits.

[Sikeliot]

Post their GEDmatch kits.

I'm not posting it publicly.

But this is their family tree (the person you accused me of claiming to be Jewish when they are Calabrese):

Born: 9 FEB 1928, Calabria, Italy
Died: 17 DEC 2017, Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

Father: Giovanni Scali (Born: Mammola, Reggio di Calabria, Italy)
Mother: Maria Vittoria Scali (Born: Mammola, Reggio di Calabria, Italy)

[Teucer]

There is likely Mycenaean Greek ancestry in Cyprus



How much do you think? And how much in comparison to other areas like the Dodecanese, Sicily, South Italy?

[Sikeliot]

How much do you think? And how much in comparison to other areas like the Dodecanese, Sicily, South Italy?

I don't know, but it is clear Cypriots are not purely Levantine.

[AK-47]

What calculator did you use for this?
I want to see how I compare.
Granted, my scores will be skewed by not being full Ashkenazi and having substantial NW Euro input.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

I have never posted a single Jewish person pretending they were Calabrese. YOU made that assumption because they scored Jewish first in their Oracle population, but I told you in their family tree and family surnames which were publicly uploaded, you could clearly see the person was 100% Calabrese with no Jewish ancestry. It was just inconceivable to you that a Calabrese might score components similar to Jews before the South Italian reference, but both groups are so similar it only takes very minor altering of percentages of components to turn a "South Italian" into a "Sephardi Jew" on a Gedmatch calculator. But this went entirely over your head.

I did not make that assumption because they had the Jews as the first population but because they were distant @ 7 from the Calabrian sample. Then one can be a Jew even if born in Calabria. Anyway, let's not kid ourselves, it was not the first time you post fake or unusual results, you did it in that thread of Lazio too.
If possible can you send me the kits used in this thread via private message? I'm partly Lucanian/Apulian and I'd be curious. I don't think Apulians differ so much from the other south Italians.


The southern Italians further from mainland Greeks are in turn closer to Cypriots, so it is likely a third-party Levant-related source of admixture bringing southern Italians closer to Cyprus.

South Italians are usually closer to Greeks/Islanders/Greek-Island mixes than to Cypriots.


The fact Lebanese also comes up means these areas are not identical to the mainland, and that Apulians have also received (or retained) ancestry from a population that is more comparable to the Levant than the Balkans. In that case, they are not good proxy for mainland Greece.

One of the Mycenaeans also had Lebanon in the oracle. In general, all of southern Italy differs from Greece due to the absence of the Eastern European component present in the Greeks.


LOL.
So much butthurt in you.
Nah, I'm not Sikeliot's lawyer.
He doesn't need one to cut you down to size.
So much antisemitism on this site, much of the time posters are so low IQ, they don't even understand why Jewish posters are offended... :)

I never said anything against the Jews so you can not say I'm anti-Semitic. You have no reason to be offended.

[Sikeliot]

I did not make that assumption because they had the Jews as the first population but because they were distant @ 7 from the Calabrian sample. Then one can be a Jew even if born in Calabria. Anyway, let's not kid ourselves, it was not the first time you post fake or unusual results, you did it in that thread of Lazio too.
If possible can you send me the kits used in this thread via private message? I'm partly Lucanian/Apulian and I'd be curious. I don't think Apulians differ so much from the other south Italians.

Some Sicilians are distant from the Sicilian reference population. You do realize a reference population made up of people from just one or two towns cannot possibly accurately reflect an entire region, no? I've seen some Irish score England well before any Irish sample and at a distance to the Irish samples. I've seen a Dodecanese Greek score southern Italians and Jews well before any other Greeks. You are making assumptions based on your lack of understanding of how the reference populations reflect every individual... they do not.

Another example is people from Palermo come up closer to "East Sicily" and "South Italy" due to the West Sicily sample being from Trapani, which is genetically an outlier for Sicily (see Sarno et al).

South Italians are somewhere intermediate between mainland Greeks and Cypriots, due to two things: absence of NE European in south Italians (except, again, some Apulians) and the presence of a secondary SW Asian/North African like component that is noticeably lower in Greeks. Crete or Dodecanese would be the closest match to southern Italy.

[AK-47]

I never said anything against the Jews so you can not say I'm anti-Semitic. You have no reason to be offended.
The source of your butthurt and unfounded accusations against Sikeliot, seems to be about Jewish scores on Italian samples.
I sense some latent antisemitism in you.;)
I'm mostly Ashkenazi and get heavy Italian scores on my GEDmatch results, and think nothing of it...
I have no issues having ancient Italian ancestry, seems like tons of gentiles have major issues with the fact that many Italians have genetic affinity with Ashkenazi Jews.

ME-Eurogenes K13
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Sicilian 5.69
2 Italian_Abruzzo 6.09
3 Ashkenazi 6.73
4 East_Sicilian 6.78
5 Central_Greek 7.19
6 South_Italian 8.27
7 Greek_Thessaly 8.39
8 Tuscan 9.42
9 Italian_Jewish 11.41
10 Sephardic_Jewish 11.56
11 Algerian_Jewish 12.46
12 Tunisian_Jewish 15.54
13 North_Italian 15.58
14 Bulgarian 15.87
15 Libyan_Jewish 16.27
16 Romanian 17.43
17 Cyprian 19.81
18 Serbian 21.09
19 Lebanese_Muslim 22.6
20 Portuguese 23.09

[Lavrentis]

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the biggest difference between Greeks and south Italians the Steppe component present in the Greeks? South Italians seem to have very little of it.


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[Teucer]

One of the Mycenaeans also had Lebanon in the oracle.



Really? I thought the Mycenaeans were not meant to have any Levantine affinity

[trebil]

I have no issues having ancient Italian ancestry, seems like tons of gentiles have major issues with the fact that many Italians have genetic affinity with Ashkenazi Jews.

there is no such thing like "ancient Italian ancestry", actually also many Greeks have a genetic affinity with Ashkenazi Jews, and Ashkenazi Jews have very low IBD sharing with Italians and Ashkenazi Jews have more IBD with Eastern Europeans.

It's quite pathetic that you put the Italian flag. Italy was born in 1860.

[Sikeliot]

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the biggest difference between Greeks and south Italians the Steppe component present in the Greeks? South Italians seem to have very little of it.


That, and some non-Caucasus derived Near Eastern input in southern Italians (15-20%).

[Sikeliot]

there is no such thing like "ancient Italian ancestry", actually also many Greeks have a genetic affinity with Ashkenazi Jews, and Ashkenazi Jews have very low IBD sharing with Italians and Ashkenazi Jews have more IBD with Eastern Europeans.

It's quite pathetic that you put the Italian flag. Italy was born in 1860.

Ashkenazim may share more IBD with Eastern Europeans but their overall genetic composition more closely matches Italy.

[Sikeliot]

Really? I thought the Mycenaeans were not meant to have any Levantine affinity

They don't. They scored Levantines lower on their Oracles than modern mainland Greeks do.

[AK-47]

there is no such thing like "ancient Italian ancestry", actually also many Greeks have a genetic affinity with Ashkenazi Jews, and
Ashkenazi Jews have very low IBD sharing with Italians and Ashkenazi Jews have more IBD with Eastern Europeans.

It's quite pathetic that you put the Italian flag. Italy was born in 1860.
LOL.
OK.
Paying respect to my VERY substantial northern Italian maternal component, that is a huge part of the Ashkenazi genome is "pathetic."
These people TODAY are known as Italians.
Do you want me to fly an ancient Roman flag?
Assholes like you would take issue with that...
There is no such thing as ancient Italian ancestry, and the formation of the Ashkenazi ethnic groups didn't involve converted Roman wives?
With all of the antisemitism I have seen by allegedly Italian posters, I should rethink flying the Italian flag, but fact is that the Italians I hang with everyday are NOT imbeciles and bigots like you.

[trebil]

Ashkenazim may share more IBD with Eastern Europeans but their overall genetic composition more closely matches Italy.

overall genetic composition matches some parts of southern Italy to begin with not Italy as whole, as parts of the Greek world. and genetic composition doesn't mean anything. there are many european ethnicites who match but are quite distinct

[trebil]

LOL.
OK.
Paying respect to my VERY substantial northern Italian maternal component, that is a huge part of the Ashkenazi genome is "pathetic."
These people TODAY are known as Italians.
Do you want me to fly an ancient Roman flag?
Assholes like you would take issue with that...
There is no such thing as ancient Italian ancestry, and the formation of the Ashkenazi ethnic groups didn't involve converted Roman wives?
With all of the antisemitism I have seen by allegedly Italian posters, I should rethink flying the Italian flag, but fact is that the Italians I hang with everyday are NOT imbeciles and bigots like you.

Italians don't feel related to your people, I'm telling you the simple truth, and not because they are anti semitic but just because they are not related to you.

I would never put the flag of a country to which I am not related.

[MinervaItalica]

Italy was born in 1860.

As a unified modern state yes but Italian identity is much older. Since Middle Ages at least.

[AK-47]

Another thing that really bothers me is MY complete lack of any anti-Italian bigotry is not reciprocated by many Italian posters in regards to Jews.
By admitting that Ashkenazi Jews have northern Italian gentile maternal lines, I come in conflict with many Jews and get a ration of shit from them.
But the truth is better than being a fuckwit and bigoted retard.
I always know a poster is failing in their argument when they lamely attempt to fart out IBD stats...
I respect my Italian heritage and will not deny it.
You can be dishonorable posters with an agenda at your own peril.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

The source of your butthurt and unfounded accusations against Sikeliot, seems to be about Jewish scores on Italian samples.

Then you don't understand a shit. The source of my "accusations" against Sikeliot is that he posted fake results to make people pass for what they aren't. It is not my fault if all the southern Italians have as first population South_Italian, East_Sicilian, Italian_Abruzzo or West_Sicilian. If you feel offended by what I say that's your fucking problem.


Some Sicilians are distant from the Sicilian reference population. You do realize a reference population made up of people from just one or two towns cannot possibly accurately reflect an entire region, no?

For a Calabrian 7 is too high a distance, do not find excuses. This is what a Calabrian gets:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 4.1
2 East_Sicilian 5.58
3 Sephardic_Jewish 5.69
4 Central_Greek 6.33
5 Italian_Jewish 6.67
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7.25
7 West_Sicilian 7.71
8 Algerian_Jewish 8.13
9 Ashkenazi 8.32
10 Tunisian_Jewish 9.91
11 Greek 11.71
12 Cyprian 12.14
13 Tuscan 13.41
14 Libyan_Jewish 13.5
15 Greek_Thessaly 13.52
16 Lebanese_Muslim 15.09
17 Syrian 16.32
18 Turkish 16.36
19 Samaritan 18.89
20 Bulgarian 19.51


Really? I thought the Mycenaeans were not meant to have any Levantine affinity

The most southern shifted of the 4 Mycenaeans:
18 Lebanese_Muslim @ 28.034370
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian + Cyprian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.563879
2 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.818125
3 Armenian + Assyrian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.851804
4 Armenian + Armenian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.938731
5 Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.957386
6 Armenian + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.962664
7 Armenian + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.097719
8 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.374653
9 Assyrian + Assyrian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.425754
10 Cyprian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.433751
11 Armenian + Samaritan + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.479022
12 Armenian + Iranian_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.512017
13 Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.573802
14 Armenian + Italian_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.600214
15 Armenian + Libyan_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.601357
16 Assyrian + Cyprian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.701864
17 Armenian + Sardinian + Sardinian + South_Italian @ 7.778791
18 Armenian + Sardinian + Sardinian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 7.808818
19 Georgian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.832108
20 Georgian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.833129

This is what another one got, basically a south Italian with less West_Asian and more Atlantic, West_Med
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.38
2 West_Med 28.12
3 Atlantic 22.29
4 West_Asian 9.7
5 North_Sea 7.39
6 Red_Sea 1.11

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Sicilian 12.79
2 South_Italian 13.99
3 Algerian_Jewish 14.6
4 Italian_Jewish 14.85
5 Tuscan 14.98
6 Italian_Abruzzo 15.67
7 East_Sicilian 15.98
8 Sephardic_Jewish 16.1
9 Central_Greek 16.34
10 Greek 18.07
11 North_Italian 18.29
12 Tunisian_Jewish 19.11
13 Ashkenazi 19.35
14 Greek_Thessaly 20.04
15 Libyan_Jewish 21.32
16 Spanish_Andalucia 21.81
17 Cyprian 22.21
18 Sardinian 23.14
19 Spanish_Murcia 23.34
20 Spanish_Extremadura 23.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% Italian_Jewish + 36% Sardinian @ 8.61
2 61.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 38.8% Sardinian @ 8.64
3 66.3% South_Italian + 33.7% Sardinian @ 8.81
4 64.9% Algerian_Jewish + 35.1% Sardinian @ 8.94
5 70.1% West_Sicilian + 29.9% Sardinian @ 9.01
6 58.4% Sardinian + 41.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 9.32
7 56% Tunisian_Jewish + 44% Sardinian @ 9.45
8 63.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 36.6% Sardinian @ 10.05
9 51.3% Cyprian + 48.7% Sardinian @ 10.06
10 55.2% Sardinian + 44.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 10.25
11 75.7% Algerian_Jewish + 24.3% French_Basque @ 10.42
12 62.3% Central_Greek + 37.7% Sardinian @ 10.57
13 63.2% East_Sicilian + 36.8% Sardinian @ 10.57
14 61.2% Sardinian + 38.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 10.69
15 60.9% Sardinian + 39.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 10.71
16 60.4% Sardinian + 39.6% Assyrian @ 10.82
17 57.8% Sardinian + 42.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 10.91
18 66.1% Algerian_Jewish + 33.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 10.92
19 70.4% Algerian_Jewish + 29.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 10.94
20 62.2% Cyprian + 37.8% French_Basque @ 10.97

Probably a Greek woman in the Bavarian study:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.03
2 West_Med 24.04
3 Atlantic 16.95
4 West_Asian 14.97
5 Baltic 6.28
6 North_Sea 5.21
7 Red_Sea 1.52

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 8.298720
2 Central_Greek @ 11.280586
3 West_Sicilian @ 11.399659
4 East_Sicilian @ 11.458520
5 Algerian_Jewish @ 12.128585
6 Italian_Jewish @ 12.262348
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 12.871817
8 Sephardic_Jewish @ 12.940746
9 Greek @ 14.259995
10 Ashkenazi @ 15.621030
11 Tuscan @ 16.085714
12 Tunisian_Jewish @ 16.577948
13 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.235832
14 Cyprian @ 18.377066
15 Libyan_Jewish @ 19.824587
16 North_Italian @ 22.450418
17 Bulgarian @ 24.141497
18 Lebanese_Muslim @ 24.194462
19 Turkish @ 25.562592
20 Syrian @ 25.705830

[AK-47]

Then you don't understand a shit. The source of my "accusations" against Sikeliot is that he posted fake results to make people pass for what they aren't. It is not my fault if all the southern Italians have as first population South_Italian, East_Sicilian, Italian_Abruzzo or West_Sicilian. If you feel offended by what I say that's your fucking problem.



For a Calabrian 7 is too high a distance, do not find excuses. This is what a Calabrian gets:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 4.1
2 East_Sicilian 5.58
3 Sephardic_Jewish 5.69
4 Central_Greek 6.33
5 Italian_Jewish 6.67
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7.25
7 West_Sicilian 7.71
8 Algerian_Jewish 8.13
9 Ashkenazi 8.32
10 Tunisian_Jewish 9.91
11 Greek 11.71
12 Cyprian 12.14
13 Tuscan 13.41
14 Libyan_Jewish 13.5
15 Greek_Thessaly 13.52
16 Lebanese_Muslim 15.09
17 Syrian 16.32
18 Turkish 16.36
19 Samaritan 18.89
20 Bulgarian 19.51



The most southern shifted of the 4 Mycenaeans:
18 Lebanese_Muslim @ 28.034370
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian + Cyprian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.563879
2 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.818125
3 Armenian + Assyrian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.851804
4 Armenian + Armenian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.938731
5 Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.957386
6 Armenian + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 6.962664
7 Armenian + Lebanese_Muslim + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.097719
8 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.374653
9 Assyrian + Assyrian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.425754
10 Cyprian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.433751
11 Armenian + Samaritan + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.479022
12 Armenian + Iranian_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.512017
13 Assyrian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.573802
14 Armenian + Italian_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.600214
15 Armenian + Libyan_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.601357
16 Assyrian + Cyprian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.701864
17 Armenian + Sardinian + Sardinian + South_Italian @ 7.778791
18 Armenian + Sardinian + Sardinian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 7.808818
19 Georgian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.832108
20 Georgian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 7.833129

This is what another one got, basically a south Italian with less West_Asian and more Atlantic, West_Med
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.38
2 West_Med 28.12
3 Atlantic 22.29
4 West_Asian 9.7
5 North_Sea 7.39
6 Red_Sea 1.11

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Sicilian 12.79
2 South_Italian 13.99
3 Algerian_Jewish 14.6
4 Italian_Jewish 14.85
5 Tuscan 14.98
6 Italian_Abruzzo 15.67
7 East_Sicilian 15.98
8 Sephardic_Jewish 16.1
9 Central_Greek 16.34
10 Greek 18.07
11 North_Italian 18.29
12 Tunisian_Jewish 19.11
13 Ashkenazi 19.35
14 Greek_Thessaly 20.04
15 Libyan_Jewish 21.32
16 Spanish_Andalucia 21.81
17 Cyprian 22.21
18 Sardinian 23.14
19 Spanish_Murcia 23.34
20 Spanish_Extremadura 23.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% Italian_Jewish + 36% Sardinian @ 8.61
2 61.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 38.8% Sardinian @ 8.64
3 66.3% South_Italian + 33.7% Sardinian @ 8.81
4 64.9% Algerian_Jewish + 35.1% Sardinian @ 8.94
5 70.1% West_Sicilian + 29.9% Sardinian @ 9.01
6 58.4% Sardinian + 41.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 9.32
7 56% Tunisian_Jewish + 44% Sardinian @ 9.45
8 63.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 36.6% Sardinian @ 10.05
9 51.3% Cyprian + 48.7% Sardinian @ 10.06
10 55.2% Sardinian + 44.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 10.25
11 75.7% Algerian_Jewish + 24.3% French_Basque @ 10.42
12 62.3% Central_Greek + 37.7% Sardinian @ 10.57
13 63.2% East_Sicilian + 36.8% Sardinian @ 10.57
14 61.2% Sardinian + 38.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 10.69
15 60.9% Sardinian + 39.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 10.71
16 60.4% Sardinian + 39.6% Assyrian @ 10.82
17 57.8% Sardinian + 42.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 10.91
18 66.1% Algerian_Jewish + 33.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 10.92
19 70.4% Algerian_Jewish + 29.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 10.94
20 62.2% Cyprian + 37.8% French_Basque @ 10.97

Probably a Greek woman in the Bavarian study:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.03
2 West_Med 24.04
3 Atlantic 16.95
4 West_Asian 14.97
5 Baltic 6.28
6 North_Sea 5.21
7 Red_Sea 1.52

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 8.298720
2 Central_Greek @ 11.280586
3 West_Sicilian @ 11.399659
4 East_Sicilian @ 11.458520
5 Algerian_Jewish @ 12.128585
6 Italian_Jewish @ 12.262348
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 12.871817
8 Sephardic_Jewish @ 12.940746
9 Greek @ 14.259995
10 Ashkenazi @ 15.621030
11 Tuscan @ 16.085714
12 Tunisian_Jewish @ 16.577948
13 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.235832
14 Cyprian @ 18.377066
15 Libyan_Jewish @ 19.824587
16 North_Italian @ 22.450418
17 Bulgarian @ 24.141497
18 Lebanese_Muslim @ 24.194462
19 Turkish @ 25.562592
20 Syrian @ 25.705830
Whatever man.
I read Sikeliot's reply to you.
He cut you down to size and totally owned you.
Goodbye.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Other Apulians:

1
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.69
2 West_Med 20.06
3 Atlantic 17.27
4 West_Asian 16.29
5 North_Sea 7.49
6 Red_Sea 4.68
7 Baltic 2.39
8 Eastern_Euro 1.56


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 5.431121
2 East_Sicilian @ 7.556190
3 West_Sicilian @ 7.562801
4 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.856308
5 Central_Greek @ 7.891138
6 Italian_Jewish @ 9.314790
7 Sephardic_Jewish @ 9.579286
8 Algerian_Jewish @ 10.688701
9 Ashkenazi @ 11.745255
10 Greek @ 13.149674
11 Tuscan @ 13.223075
12 Tunisian_Jewish @ 14.463768
13 Greek_Thessaly @ 15.490226
14 Cyprian @ 17.514883
15 Libyan_Jewish @ 17.795912
16 North_Italian @ 20.426191
17 Lebanese_Muslim @ 21.724276
18 Turkish @ 21.950380
19 Bulgarian @ 22.521936
20 Syrian @ 22.936218

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% South_Italian +50% West_Sicilian @ 5.299959


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +25% French_Basque +25% South_Italian @ 3.699668


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.363980
2 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.394615
3 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.397979
4 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.406072
5 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.425537
6 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.485476
7 Algerian_Jewish + Armenian + Cyprian + French_Basque @ 3.564093
8 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.657472
9 Cyprian + Cyprian + French_Basque + South_Italian @ 3.699668
10 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.709841
11 Armenian + Cyprian + French_Basque + Italian_Jewish @ 3.786328
12 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.824418
13 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Armenian + French_Basque @ 3.888588
14 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.900425
15 Assyrian + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.948562
16 Assyrian + Assyrian + Sardinian + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.964658
17 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.989483
18 French_Basque + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 3.997902
19 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southwest_French @ 4.003767
20 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.006093

2
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.35
2 West_Med 18.09
3 West_Asian 15.15
4 Atlantic 12.94
5 North_Sea 12.01
6 Baltic 6.10
7 Eastern_Euro 4.69
8 Red_Sea 2.60


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Greek @ 4.115069
2 East_Sicilian @ 5.884188
3 South_Italian @ 6.286978
4 Italian_Abruzzo @ 6.489184
5 Ashkenazi @ 7.956932
6 West_Sicilian @ 8.457588
7 Greek @ 9.157941
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.296443
9 Italian_Jewish @ 10.970961
10 Tuscan @ 12.280553
11 Sephardic_Jewish @ 12.706391
12 Algerian_Jewish @ 13.074206
13 Tunisian_Jewish @ 17.201813
14 Bulgarian @ 17.673647
15 Libyan_Jewish @ 17.962276
16 Cyprian @ 18.654785
17 North_Italian @ 19.434431
18 Romanian @ 20.015860
19 Turkish @ 21.716251
20 Lebanese_Muslim @ 22.418758

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +50% Central_Greek @ 4.115069


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Central_Greek +25% Central_Greek @ 4.115069


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++
1 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 3.759439
2 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 3.762872
3 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + North_German + Sardinian @ 3.786085
4 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 3.849901
5 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + North_German + Sardinian @ 3.870938
6 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 3.897011
7 Armenian + East_German + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 3.900116
8 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 3.908493
9 Armenian + Danish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 3.920703
10 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 3.942946
11 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_German @ 3.962075
12 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_German + Sardinian @ 3.972988
13 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 3.985560
14 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_German @ 4.018681
15 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Dutch + Sardinian @ 4.020603
16 Danish + Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 4.034267
17 Assyrian + Danish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 4.035764
18 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 4.046715
19 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Dutch + Sardinian @ 4.051097
20 Georgian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Dutch + Sardinian @ 4.064279

3
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.45
2 West_Med 19.08
3 West_Asian 14.81
4 Atlantic 14.02
5 North_Sea 13.90
6 Baltic 5.77
7 Red_Sea 3.29
8 Eastern_Euro 2.31


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.364838
2 Central_Greek @ 5.436642
3 East_Sicilian @ 6.217400
4 South_Italian @ 7.565169
5 West_Sicilian @ 8.053580
6 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.404826
7 Tuscan @ 9.265796
8 Ashkenazi @ 9.317004
9 Greek @ 9.870047
10 Italian_Jewish @ 12.618635
11 Sephardic_Jewish @ 14.551743
12 Algerian_Jewish @ 14.901494
13 North_Italian @ 16.334549
14 Bulgarian @ 17.019156
15 Romanian @ 18.954283
16 Tunisian_Jewish @ 19.271067
17 Libyan_Jewish @ 19.759884
18 Cyprian @ 21.689905
19 Serbian @ 22.457813
20 Turkish @ 23.692427

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +50% Tuscan @ 4.634888


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% North_Italian +25% South_Italian @ 4.025873


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Assyrian + Cyprian + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 3.066940
2 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 3.081559
3 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Dutch + Sardinian @ 3.096443
4 Armenian + Cyprian + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 3.130673
5 Cyprian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 3.193555
6 Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 3.229196
7 Armenian + Cyprian + Sardinian + Swedish @ 3.239020
8 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Sardinian @ 3.265689
9 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 3.274227
10 Armenian + Irish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 3.288655
11 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 3.298926
12 Assyrian + Cyprian + Sardinian + Swedish @ 3.335417
13 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 3.336448
14 Armenian + Cyprian + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 3.376075
15 Assyrian + Cyprian + North_Dutch + Sardinian @ 3.381071
16 Armenian + Cyprian + North_Dutch + Sardinian @ 3.381685
17 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southwest_English @ 3.418786
18 Assyrian + Cyprian + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 3.422757
19 Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + North_Dutch + Sardinian @ 3.444432
20 Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southeast_English @ 3.458775

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Whatever man.
I read Sikeliot's reply to you.
He cut you down to size and totally owned you.
Goodbye.

Sure lol, keep kissing his ass.

[Sikeliot]

Then you don't understand a shit. The source of my "accusations" against Sikeliot is that he posted fake results to make people pass for what they aren't. It is not my fault if all the southern Italians have as first population South_Italian, East_Sicilian, Italian_Abruzzo or West_Sicilian. If you feel offended by what I say that's your fucking problem.



This is another person related to me on GEDmatch and has proven Calabrese ancestry from four towns in Reggio Calabria, see how they score? The region is diverse, not homogenous.

This person is 3% more Red Sea than average. That's ALL it takes to make them closer to Sephardim. Hardly any change.

Also, your "typical" Calabrese example is closer to Cypriots than to Thessalian Greeks, and almost as close to Lebanon as to Thessaly.


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.35
2 West_Med 19.34
3 West_Asian 15.69
4 Atlantic 13.22
5 Red_Sea 10.9
6 North_Sea 4.61
7 Baltic 3.18
8 Eastern_Euro 1.54
9 Northeast_African 0.73
10 Oceanian 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jewish 4.98
2 Italian_Jewish 6.26
3 South_Italian 6.78
4 Algerian_Jewish 6.94
5 East_Sicilian 7.53
6 Central_Greek 8.81
7 Tunisian_Jewish 8.87
8 Ashkenazi 9.29
9 West_Sicilian 10.04
10 Italian_Abruzzo 10.59
11 Cyprian 11.26
12 Libyan_Jewish 12.01
13 Greek 14.05
14 Lebanese_Muslim 14.98
15 Syrian 15.25
16 Greek_Thessaly 15.25
17 Tuscan 15.33
18 Samaritan 16.96
19 Turkish 18.36
20 Jordanian 18.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 7.6% Sardinian @ 4.2
2 72.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 27.7% East_Sicilian @ 4.39
3 77% Sephardic_Jewish + 23% Central_Greek @ 4.42
4 70.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 29.8% South_Italian @ 4.48
5 94.9% Sephardic_Jewish + 5.1% Balkar @ 4.56
6 74.3% Cyprian + 25.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.57
7 75.7% Cyprian + 24.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.58
8 95.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 4.8% Ossetian @ 4.59
9 95.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 4.6% North_Ossetian @ 4.59
10 95.1% Sephardic_Jewish + 4.9% Kabardin @ 4.61
11 95.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 4.5% Chechen @ 4.62
12 75.4% Cyprian + 24.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.62
13 95.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 4.8% Adygei @ 4.62
14 95.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 4.2% Abhkasian @ 4.63
15 95.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 4.6% Georgian @ 4.64
16 72.8% Cyprian + 27.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.64
17 89.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 10.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.65
18 86.2% South_Italian + 13.8% Saudi @ 4.66
19 72.8% Cyprian + 27.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.67
20 89.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 10.5% Tuscan @ 4.67

[Ajeje Brazorf]

This is another person related to me on GEDmatch and has proven Calabrese ancestry from four towns in Reggio Calabria, see how they score? The region is diverse, not homogenous.
Again, all Calabrians are close to Jews and I never said the opposite, what I am trying to make you understand is that no one will ever be Calabrian if his distance is 7.

Another Calabrian
https://i.imgur.com/G2TUT7P.png

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit M070551

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.88
2 West_Med 17.95
3 West_Asian 14.38
4 Atlantic 12.31
5 North_Sea 9.63
6 Red_Sea 6.3
7 Baltic 4.65
8 Eastern_Euro 2.83
9 Sub-Saharan 0.47
10 Northeast_African 0.4
11 Southeast_Asian 0.11
12 South_Asian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 3.09
2 East_Sicilian 4.08
3 Central_Greek 4.52
4 Italian_Jewish 5.2
5 Ashkenazi 6.16
6 Sephardic_Jewish 6.56
7 Italian_Abruzzo 7.05
8 Algerian_Jewish 7.11
9 West_Sicilian 7.16
10 Greek 10.57
11 Tunisian_Jewish 10.71
12 Greek_Thessaly 10.87
13 Libyan_Jewish 11.99
14 Cyprian 12.33
15 Tuscan 12.41
16 Lebanese_Muslim 16.12
17 Syrian 17.01
18 Turkish 18.31
19 Bulgarian 18.42
20 Samaritan 18.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Cyprian + 31.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.53
2 54% Central_Greek + 46% Italian_Jewish @ 1.67
3 50.2% Cyprian + 49.8% Tuscan @ 1.86
4 60.8% Cyprian + 39.2% North_Italian @ 1.89
5 68.1% Cyprian + 31.9% Portuguese @ 1.9
6 62.7% Central_Greek + 37.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.96
7 69.4% Cyprian + 30.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.11
8 62.2% Tuscan + 37.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.19
9 71.2% Cyprian + 28.8% French @ 2.22
10 75% Central_Greek + 25% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.24
11 51.6% North_Italian + 48.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.26
12 70.6% South_Italian + 29.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.43
13 61.5% Central_Greek + 38.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.44
14 86.3% South_Italian + 13.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.48
15 73.4% Central_Greek + 26.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.51
16 75.9% South_Italian + 24.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.53
17 69.4% Cyprian + 30.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.54
18 68% Cyprian + 32% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.56
19 95.4% South_Italian + 4.6% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.61
20 59% East_Sicilian + 41% Italian_Jewish @ 2.61



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Cosimo Loccisano
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Vincenzo Loccisano, b. abt 1783, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy, d. 24 Feb 1844, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy
/ \
| Girolama Iirilli
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Giuseppe Loccisano, b. abt 1815
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| | Nicola Fazzolari
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| Anna Fazzolari, b. abt 1773, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I, d. 18 Aug 1849, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| Elizabetta Ritorto
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Vincenzo Loccisano, b. 13 Feb 1855, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy, d. Abt 1939, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy
/ \
| | Giuseppe Luca, d. 28 Apr 1788, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | Francesco Luca, d. 23 Mar 1793, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
| | / \
| | | Caterina Ieraci
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| | Guiseppe Luca, b. 4 Apr 1791, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
| | / \
| | | Anna Maria Agostino
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| Teresa Luca, b. 18 May 1826, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy
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| | Bernardo Coluccio, b. 1758, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| Nunziata Coluccio, b. 22 May 1801, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| Veneranda Agostino
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Rocco Franceso Loccisano, b. 28 Jan 1889, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy, d. 12 Feb 1969, Troy, Rensselaer County, New York
/ \
| | Dominico Fammartino
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| | Nicola Fammartino, b. 1772, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I, d. 28 Aug 1813, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | Caterina Sainato
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| | Francesco Fammartino, b. 1803, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I, d. Oct 1829, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | | Tomasso Argiro
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| | | | Francesco Argiro, b. 1751, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I, d. 12 Aug 1812, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | | | Girolima Loccisano
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| | | Rosa Argiro, b. 19 Nov 1777, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | | Antonio Gatto
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| | | Maria Gatto, b. 1749, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I, d. 1815, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | Rosa Criniti
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| | Dominicantonio Fammartino, b. 10 Nov 1828, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy
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| | | | Nicodemo Agostino, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I, d. 9 Jul 1781, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | | Dominico Agostino, b. 22 Feb 1775, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I, d. 10 May 1858, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | | | | Giuseppe Luca, d. Jul 1811
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| | | | | Rosa Luca, b. 1729, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I, d. 13 Dec 1813, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | | | Vittoria Angilletta, d. bef Jul 1811
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| | | Caterina Agostino, b. 1806, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | | Vincenzo Andriano
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| | | Elizabetta Andriano, b. 1781, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I, d. 19 Dec 1822, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | Rosa Commisso
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| Marianna Fammartino, b. abt 1861, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy, d. bef 1940, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy
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| | Felice Iemma, b. 1754, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | Vincenzo Iemma, b. 1800, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | | Francesco Ciurleo
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| | | Dominica Ciurleo, b. 1758, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I, d. 14 Jun 1813, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| | | Caterina Larosa
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| Maria Rosa Iemma, b. 11 Sep 1826, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy
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| | Bruno Letteri, b. 1753, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| Caterina Letteri, b. 1792, Reggio Calabria, Reggio di Calabria, Calabria, I
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| Elizabetta Ientile
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Vincenzo Loccisano, b. 08 Feb 1922, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy, d. 31 Aug 2009, Troy, Rensselaer, New York
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| | Domenico Antonio Sfara, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy
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| Maria Angela Sfara, b. 8 Aug 1898, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy, d. 10 Mar 1998, Troy, Rensselaer County, New York
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| Maria Scarlata, Italy, Gioiosa Ionica, Reggio Calabria, Italy
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Angela Maria Loccisano, b. 02 Jan 1948, Troy, Rensselaer, New York, USA
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| Pasquale De Fazio, b. abt 1841
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| Nicola De Fazio, b. 8 Mar 1883, Cardinale, Catanzaro, Calabria, Italy, d. 8 Sep 1963, Troy, New York
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| | Elisabetta Maria Posca
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Elizabeth Anne De Fazio, b. 03 Mar 1917, Cardinale, Catanzaro, Italy, d. 30 Mar 2005, Troy, Rensselaer, New York
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| Sebastiano Rotiroti
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| Giuseppe Rotiroti, b. abt 1867
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Isabella Rotiroti, b. 28 Nov 1893, Cardinale, Catanzaro, Italy, d. 24 Oct 1967, Troy, New York
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| Francesco Zaccone
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Maria Caterina Zaccone

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BLUE = Male

BLACK = Sex Unknown




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[Sikeliot]

Again, all Calabrians are close to Jews and I never said the opposite, what I am trying to make you understand is that no one will ever be Calabrian if his distance is 7.

That is just not true. This seems to be based on your own narrow expectations and biases rather than on anything verifiable and true.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

This seems to be based on your own narrow expectations and biases rather than on anything verifiable and true.

What fucking biases? Even those Catanians from Giarre I posted some weeks ago are closer to the Calabrian sample from Cosenza than the Jew you posted.

[Sikeliot]

What fucking biases? Even those Catanians from Giarre I posted some weeks ago are closer to the Calabrian sample from Cosenza than the Jew you posted.

That person isn't Jewish.

Also I could show you people from Messina and Palermo exactly like that one Calabrese person. Calabrese aren't mainland Greek and Apulian like sorry to tell you.

[AK-47]

That person isn't Jewish.

Also I could show you people from Messina and Palermo exactly like that one Calabrese person. Calabrese aren't mainland Greek and Apulian like sorry to tell you.
Oh boy, sounds like this guy is triggered and ready to burst a blood vessel.:thumb001:

[Sikeliot]

Oh boy, sounds like this guy is triggered and ready to burst a blood vessel.:thumb001:

There are Sicilians and southern Italians who are basically like Peloponnesians and then there are outliers similar to Sephardim and North African Jews, with most being somewhere in the middle. This is well known. I don't know why he is acting like they are homogenous.

Sarno et al found that in southern Italy there are at least three genetic clusters, with some having more Near Eastern input than others.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

That person isn't Jewish.

You can tell these bullshit stories to your crybaby autistic clown and complexed friend "AK-47", but not to me.


Calabrese aren't mainland Greek and Apulian like sorry to tell you.

Who the fuck ever said that? The result I posted was Greek-like? No, it wasn't. Even people from Abruzzo are closer to South_Italian than that one you posted, who is a Jew.
The reliability of Sikeliot hahaha:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?228232-Italian-GEDmatch-results-from-Rome-Lazio-VERY-similar-to-South-Italians-Cretans

[Sikeliot]

You can tell these bullshit stories to your crybaby autistic clown and complexed friend "AK-47", but not to me.



Who the fuck ever said that? The result I posted was Greek-like? No, it wasn't. Even people from Abruzzo are closer to South_Italian than that one you posted, who is a Jew.
The reliability of Sikeliot hahaha:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?228232-Italian-GEDmatch-results-from-Rome-Lazio-VERY-similar-to-South-Italians-Cretans


Those people were indeed from Lazio. And that other person from Calabria. I never pretended they are average results, they may not be at all but don't deny that they are what they are or ascribe to them identities that they do not have.

[Bobby Martnen]

Those people were indeed from Lazio. And that other person from Calabria. I never pretended they are average results, they may not be at all but don't deny that they are what they are or ascribe to them identities that they do not have.

I thought that Lazio/Latium was genetically Northern Italian - like Tuscans or Venetians?

[Sikeliot]

I thought that Lazio/Latium was genetically Northern Italian - like Tuscans or Venetians?

They are close to the Abruzzese in my experience.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

I thought that Lazio/Latium was genetically Northern Italian - like Tuscans or Venetians?

He wasn't being serious in that thread, there are very few GEDmatch results from Lazio. I found this person whose ancestry is from:

https://i.imgur.com/r4dwa7p.png

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Angelo Falcone, b. 8 Jan 1885, Rocca d'Arce, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy, d. 1952
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Luigi Falcone, b. 19 Apr 1909, Rocca d'Arce, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy, d. 5 Apr 1954, Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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| | Angelo Fraioli, Rocca D'Arce, Italy
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| Donata Fraioli, b. 12 Dec 1882, Rocca d'Arce, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy, d. 07 Aug 1944, Providence, Providence, Rhode Island
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| Rosa Riccardi, Rocca D'Arce, Italy
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Louis P Falcone, b. 27 Aug 1934, Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, USA, d. 10 Dec 1990, Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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| | Luigi Martufi
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| | Pio Martufi, b. 18 Sep 1871, Guarcino, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy, d. 26 Jan 1966, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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| | | Francesca
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| Rose Martufi, b. 28 Apr 1910, Providence, Rhode Island, USA, d. 21 Apr 1988, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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| | Vincenzo Cerilli, b. 20 May 1833, Guarcino, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy, d. 23 Sep 1883, Guarcino, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy
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| Maria Cerilli, b. 10 May 1878, Guarcino, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy, d. 7 Nov 1944, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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| Annunziata Scardella, b. Abt. 1839, Guarcino, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy, d. 10 Mar 1888, Guarcino, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy
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Thomas Falcone
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| Beverly Sarracino
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Cassandra Marie Falcone, b. 12 Apr 1990, Providence, Providence, Rhode Island
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| Raymond Franco, b. 2 Nov 1935, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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Patricia Ann Franco
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| Luigi Ventriglia
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| Francesco Ventriglia, b. Abt. 1843, Vairano Patenora, Caserta, Campania, Italy
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| Luigi Ventriglia, b. 23 Nov 1865, Vairano Patenora, Caserta, Campania, Italy, d. 18 Jan 1939, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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| | | Antonio Di Rita
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| | Marianna Di Rita, b. Abt. 1844, Vairano Patenora, Caserta, Campania, Italy
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| Silvio A Ventriglia, b. 23 Dec 1907, Rhode Island, d. 31 May 1990, Cranston, Providence, Rhode Island, United State
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| | | Leopoldo Vallante, b. Abt. 1812, d. Bef. 1867
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| | | Paolo Vallante, b. Abt. 1838, Vairano Patenora, Caserta, Campania, Italy
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| | | | Teresa Pettorella
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| | Maria Giovanna Vallante, b. 17 Nov 1872, Vairano Patenora, Caserta, Campania, Italy
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| | | Giuseppe Apici, b. Abt. 1814
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| | Maria Apici, b. Abt. 1842, Vairano Patenora, Caserta, Campania, Italy
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| | Maddalena Errico, b. Abt. 1812
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Silvia Ventriglia, b. 11 Sep 1936, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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| Domenico Cipolla, b. Abt. 1858, Marzano Appio, Caserta, Campania, Italy
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| Amadeo Cipolla, b. 13 Jun 1877, Marzano Appio, Caserta, Campania, Italy, d. 7 Mar 1945, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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| | Pasqualina Savastano, b. 14 Jun 1848, Roccamonfina, Caserta, Campania, Italy, d. 15 Mar 1939, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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Pasqualina Cipolla, b. 27 Dec 1906, Rhode Island, d. 7 Nov 1992, Cranston, Providence, Rhode Island, United State
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| Erasmo Salzillo, b. Abt. 1787, d. Bef. 1835
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| Carmine Salzillo, b. 3 May 1815, Marzano Appio, Caserta, Campania, Italy
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| | Angela Broccoli, b. Abt. 1785, d. Bef. 1835
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| Felice Salzillo, b. 18 Sep 1852, Marzano Appio, Caserta, Campania, Italy, d. 8 May 1942, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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| | | Pasquale Saravo, b. Abt. 1760
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| | | Pietro Saravo, b. Abt. 1784, d. Bef. 1835
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| | Maria Carmina Petronilla Saravo, b. 31 Jan 1810, Marzano Appio, Caserta, Campania, Italy
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| | | Giacomo Cimino, b. 1760
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| | Teresa Cimino, b. Abt. 1785, d. Aft. 1835
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Filomena Salzillo, b. 1885, Italy, d. 5 Apr 1909, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
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| Carmine Cappiello, b. Abt. 1827, d. Abt. 1900
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Domenica Cappiello, b. 2 Feb 1854, Marzano Appio, Caserta, Campania, Italy, d. Abt. 1890, Marzano Appio, Caserta, Campania, Italy
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Antonia Di Iorio, b. Abt. 1830, d. 1914, Providence, Rhode Island, USA

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RED = Female

BLUE = Male

BLACK = Sex Unknown




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Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit M412713

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.18
2 West_Med 18.38
3 North_Sea 17.79
4 West_Asian 14.32
5 Atlantic 13.18
6 Baltic 4.67
7 Red_Sea 2.02
8 Eastern_Euro 1.71
9 Northeast_African 0.48
10 Oceanian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 7.6
2 Central_Greek 7.91
3 East_Sicilian 8.5
4 South_Italian 9.02
5 Greek_Thessaly 9.15
6 West_Sicilian 9.49
7 Tuscan 9.91
8 Ashkenazi 10.49
9 Greek 11.55
10 Italian_Jewish 12.14
11 Sephardic_Jewish 14.46
12 Algerian_Jewish 14.52
13 North_Italian 15.08
14 Bulgarian 16.64
15 Libyan_Jewish 17.71
16 Romanian 17.75
17 Tunisian_Jewish 18.13
18 Cyprian 19.72
19 Serbian 20.17
20 Portuguese 21.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.7% South_Italian + 21.3% West_German @ 5.6
2 83.8% South_Italian + 16.2% West_Norwegian @ 5.63
3 83.7% South_Italian + 16.3% Norwegian @ 5.87
4 83.7% South_Italian + 16.3% Orcadian @ 5.91
5 84% South_Italian + 16% Swedish @ 6.01
6 83.6% South_Italian + 16.4% North_Dutch @ 6.12
7 82.7% South_Italian + 17.3% Southwest_English @ 6.17
8 58.2% Cyprian + 41.8% West_German @ 6.21
9 83.8% South_Italian + 16.2% Danish @ 6.24
10 83.2% South_Italian + 16.8% Southeast_English @ 6.25
11 84.3% South_Italian + 15.7% West_Scottish @ 6.29
12 84.9% South_Italian + 15.1% North_Swedish @ 6.39
13 84.3% South_Italian + 15.7% Irish @ 6.4
14 78.9% South_Italian + 21.1% French @ 6.45
15 85.2% Central_Greek + 14.8% West_German @ 6.5
16 81.4% South_Italian + 18.6% South_Dutch @ 6.53
17 55.9% Cyprian + 44.1% French @ 6.55
18 62.9% Cyprian + 37.1% Southwest_English @ 6.55
19 88.8% Central_Greek + 11.2% Orcadian @ 6.58
20 83.7% South_Italian + 16.3% North_German @ 6.59

[Bobby Martnen]

They are close to the Abruzzese in my experience.

I wonder what Pope Francis is like autosomally...

[Ajeje Brazorf]

People of Lazio who did a DNA test are so little that you can count them on the fingers of one hand

Tarquinia, Viterbo province (north Latium almost Tuscany) with a grandfather or great-grandfather from Marche

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.73
2 West_Med 19.70
3 Atlantic 18.67
4 North_Sea 13.82
5 West_Asian 11.31
6 Baltic 7.51
7 Red_Sea 5.46
8 Eastern_Euro 1.55

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tuscan @ 2.896746
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.138923
3 West_Sicilian @ 7.706508
4 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.428596
5 East_Sicilian @ 9.716750
6 Greek @ 10.033047
7 Central_Greek @ 10.064126
8 North_Italian @ 10.130056
9 South_Italian @ 11.815855
10 Ashkenazi @ 12.450216
11 Bulgarian @ 14.981978
12 Italian_Jewish @ 16.178322
13 Romanian @ 16.627432
14 Sephardic_Jewish @ 17.508238
15 Algerian_Jewish @ 17.904442
16 Spanish_Extremadura @ 18.440626
17 Portuguese @ 18.760384
18 Spanish_Andalucia @ 18.938551
19 Spanish_Murcia @ 19.001709
20 Serbian @ 19.558538

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Sicilian +50% North_Italian @ 2.092684

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% South_Italian +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Tuscan @ 2.052277

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Central_Greek + South_Italian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Tuscan @ 1.885715
2 East_Sicilian + North_Italian + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.006777
3 Central_Greek + South_Italian + Spanish_Galicia + Tuscan @ 2.018163
4 East_Sicilian + Tuscan + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.033635
5 South_Italian + South_Italian + Spanish_Galicia + Tuscan @ 2.052277
6 East_Sicilian + South_Italian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Tuscan @ 2.085871
7 East_Sicilian + East_Sicilian + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 2.092684
8 Central_Greek + Tuscan + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.105357
9 Central_Greek + Portuguese + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.107304
10 North_Italian + South_Italian + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.125856
11 Central_Greek + North_Italian + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.129204
12 East_Sicilian + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna + Tuscan @ 2.158683
13 Central_Greek + East_Sicilian + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 2.165063
14 East_Sicilian + South_Italian + Spanish_Galicia + Tuscan @ 2.170843
15 Central_Greek + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna + Tuscan @ 2.188911
16 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Tuscan @ 2.191467
17 Central_Greek + East_Sicilian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Tuscan @ 2.199996
18 Central_Greek + South_Italian + Spanish_Extremadura + Tuscan @ 2.221374
19 South_Italian + South_Italian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Tuscan @ 2.254005
20 East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly + South_Italian + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.262815


Roman with ancestors from other parts of Lazio

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.92
2 Atlantic 21.01
3 West_Med 15.95
4 North_Sea 15.87
5 West_Asian 10.79
6 Baltic 6.58
7 Red_Sea 4.84
8 Eastern_Euro 2.79

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tuscan @ 4.491645
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.820423
3 West_Sicilian @ 8.822403
4 North_Italian @ 9.791494
5 Greek_Thessaly @ 11.343736
6 Greek @ 11.652203
7 East_Sicilian @ 12.031127
8 Central_Greek @ 12.194906
9 Ashkenazi @ 13.835907
10 South_Italian @ 14.166714
11 Bulgarian @ 14.810188
12 Romanian @ 15.731471
13 Spanish_Extremadura @ 17.153765
14 Spanish_Murcia @ 17.375895
15 Portuguese @ 17.557949
16 Italian_Jewish @ 17.808485
17 Serbian @ 17.859163
18 Spanish_Andalucia @ 18.157480
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 18.626516
20 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.714277

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.640229

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +25% French_Basque +25% West_Norwegian @ 2.017913

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Irish + Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.614371
2 French_Basque + Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + West_German @ 1.681764
3 Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.684114
4 Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Southwest_French @ 1.729319
5 Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.738608
6 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Lebanese_Christian + West_German @ 1.756753
7 Cyprian + Irish + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.766112
8 French_Basque + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + West_German @ 1.796943
9 Irish + Sephardic_Jewish + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.800342
10 Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + Southwest_English + Southwest_French @ 1.834478
11 Irish + Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + Southwest_French @ 1.858929
12 Sephardic_Jewish + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 1.861851
13 Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 1.876877
14 Cyprian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.889311
15 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 1.905092
16 French + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_French @ 1.908877
17 Cyprian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.913669
18 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Christian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.927472
19 Cyprian + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish @ 1.938943
20 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Christian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.941058

[Percivalle]

Those people were indeed from Lazio.

She was from the province of Frosinone, where there is the border between central and southern Italian languages, and not all her ancestors were from Lazio, in her genealogical tree there were also southern Italian surnames and other surnames quite difficult to trace and not native to Lazio.



I wonder what Pope Francis is like autosomally...


If the info about his ancestry is accurate, he would be like some Ligurian/southern Piedmontese, so a northwestern Italian of some sort.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

She was from the province of Frosinone, where there is the border between central and southern Italian languages

Even the result from Caserta/Frosinone I posted was different from those ones in that thread.


and not all her ancestors were from Lazio, in her genealogical tree there were also southern Italian surnames and other surnames quite difficult to trace and not native to Lazio.

This was why.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Person from Molise

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Luigi Notte, Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy, d. abt 1912
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Luigi Notte, b. 1912, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy, d. 1976, Nocera Inferiore, Salerno, Campania, Italy
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| Angela , Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy
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Antonio Notte, b. 1 september 1932, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy, d. 13 february 2011, Montréal, Quebec, Canada
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| | /Ruscitti/
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| | Carmine Ruscitti, b. abt 1893, Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy, Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy
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| Maria Addolorata Ruscitti, b. 1/1/1915, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy, d. 2007, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy
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| | Michele Zappitelli
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| Giovanna Zappitelli, Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy, Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
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| Filomena Arcaro, Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy, d. abt 1939
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Robert Notte, b. 6 June 1964, Montréal, Quebec, Canada
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| /Zappitelli/
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| Antonio Zappitelli, San Angelo in Grotte, Isernia, Molise, Italy, d. 24 Dec 1947, San Angelo in Grotte, Isernia, Molise, Italy
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| Angelo Zappitelli, b. 5/6/1894, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy, d. 8 Dec 1971, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy
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| | Giuseppina Zappitelli, San Angelo in Grotte, Isernia, Molise, Italy, San Angelo in Grotte, Isernia, Molise, Italy
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Emma Zappitelli, b. 21 november 1935, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy
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| Carmine Taddeo, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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| Michele Taddeo, b. 1880, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, d. 1970, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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| | Elissandrina Mucciarone, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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Pasqua Taddeo, b. 6 Jan 1905, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, d. 30 Aug 1979, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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| Giovanni Ferrara, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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Antonia Ferrara, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, d. 6 April 1965, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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Maria Colacci, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy

LEGEND

RED = Female

BLUE = Male

BLACK = Sex Unknown




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Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit A525583

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.35
2 West_Med 17.84
3 North_Sea 17.1
4 West_Asian 13.81
5 Atlantic 11.21
6 Red_Sea 4.08
7 Baltic 3.37
8 Eastern_Euro 3.09
9 Amerindian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 7.67
2 East_Sicilian 8.01
3 Italian_Abruzzo 8.27
4 South_Italian 8.49
5 Ashkenazi 9.08
6 West_Sicilian 9.72
7 Greek_Thessaly 10.04
8 Italian_Jewish 10.14
9 Tuscan 11.7
10 Greek 12.44
11 Sephardic_Jewish 12.59
12 Algerian_Jewish 12.69
13 Libyan_Jewish 15.17
14 Tunisian_Jewish 16.12
15 North_Italian 17.29
16 Cyprian 17.46
17 Bulgarian 18.12
18 Romanian 19.28
19 Lebanese_Muslim 20.42
20 Turkish 21.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63% Cyprian + 37% West_German @ 5.49
2 70% Cyprian + 30% West_Norwegian @ 6.03
3 67.4% Cyprian + 32.6% Southwest_English @ 6.14
4 69.3% Cyprian + 30.7% Orcadian @ 6.15
5 61.3% Cyprian + 38.7% French @ 6.21
6 77.8% Italian_Jewish + 22.2% West_German @ 6.24
7 82.8% Italian_Jewish + 17.2% West_Norwegian @ 6.34
8 69.5% Cyprian + 30.5% Norwegian @ 6.42
9 82.6% Italian_Jewish + 17.4% Norwegian @ 6.47
10 52.4% Lebanese_Christian + 47.6% French @ 6.5
11 50.7% Spanish_Galicia + 49.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.51
12 68% Cyprian + 32% Southeast_English @ 6.54
13 82.7% Italian_Jewish + 17.3% Swedish @ 6.54
14 87.6% South_Italian + 12.4% West_Norwegian @ 6.56
15 84% South_Italian + 16% West_German @ 6.63
16 68.8% Cyprian + 31.2% North_Dutch @ 6.64
17 87.7% South_Italian + 12.3% Norwegian @ 6.72
18 83% Italian_Jewish + 17% Orcadian @ 6.76
19 82.5% Italian_Jewish + 17.5% North_Dutch @ 6.78
20 50.5% Greek_Thessaly + 49.5% Italian_Jewish @ 6.78

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Person from Molise

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Luigi Notte, Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy, d. abt 1912
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Luigi Notte, b. 1912, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy, d. 1976, Nocera Inferiore, Salerno, Campania, Italy
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| Angela , Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy
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Antonio Notte, b. 1 september 1932, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy, d. 13 february 2011, Montréal, Quebec, Canada
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| | /Ruscitti/
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| | Carmine Ruscitti, b. abt 1893, Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy, Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy
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| Maria Addolorata Ruscitti, b. 1/1/1915, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy, d. 2007, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy
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| | Michele Zappitelli
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| Giovanna Zappitelli, Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy, Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
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| Filomena Arcaro, Santa Maria del Molise, Campobasso, Italy, d. abt 1939
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Robert Notte, b. 6 June 1964, Montréal, Quebec, Canada
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| /Zappitelli/
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| Antonio Zappitelli, San Angelo in Grotte, Isernia, Molise, Italy, d. 24 Dec 1947, San Angelo in Grotte, Isernia, Molise, Italy
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| Angelo Zappitelli, b. 5/6/1894, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy, d. 8 Dec 1971, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy
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| | Giuseppina Zappitelli, San Angelo in Grotte, Isernia, Molise, Italy, San Angelo in Grotte, Isernia, Molise, Italy
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Emma Zappitelli, b. 21 november 1935, Santa Maria del Molise, Isernia, Molise, Italy
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| Carmine Taddeo, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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| Michele Taddeo, b. 1880, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, d. 1970, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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| | Elissandrina Mucciarone, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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Pasqua Taddeo, b. 6 Jan 1905, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, d. 30 Aug 1979, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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| Giovanni Ferrara, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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Antonia Ferrara, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, d. 6 April 1965, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy
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Maria Colacci, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy, St. Maria del Molise, Isernia, Italy

LEGEND

RED = Female

BLUE = Male

BLACK = Sex Unknown




Web site and contents ©Copyright 2011-2018 by GEDmatch, Inc.


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.

Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit A525583

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.35
2 West_Med 17.84
3 North_Sea 17.1
4 West_Asian 13.81
5 Atlantic 11.21
6 Red_Sea 4.08
7 Baltic 3.37
8 Eastern_Euro 3.09
9 Amerindian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 7.67
2 East_Sicilian 8.01
3 Italian_Abruzzo 8.27
4 South_Italian 8.49
5 Ashkenazi 9.08
6 West_Sicilian 9.72
7 Greek_Thessaly 10.04
8 Italian_Jewish 10.14
9 Tuscan 11.7
10 Greek 12.44
11 Sephardic_Jewish 12.59
12 Algerian_Jewish 12.69
13 Libyan_Jewish 15.17
14 Tunisian_Jewish 16.12
15 North_Italian 17.29
16 Cyprian 17.46
17 Bulgarian 18.12
18 Romanian 19.28
19 Lebanese_Muslim 20.42
20 Turkish 21.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63% Cyprian + 37% West_German @ 5.49
2 70% Cyprian + 30% West_Norwegian @ 6.03
3 67.4% Cyprian + 32.6% Southwest_English @ 6.14
4 69.3% Cyprian + 30.7% Orcadian @ 6.15
5 61.3% Cyprian + 38.7% French @ 6.21
6 77.8% Italian_Jewish + 22.2% West_German @ 6.24
7 82.8% Italian_Jewish + 17.2% West_Norwegian @ 6.34
8 69.5% Cyprian + 30.5% Norwegian @ 6.42
9 82.6% Italian_Jewish + 17.4% Norwegian @ 6.47
10 52.4% Lebanese_Christian + 47.6% French @ 6.5
11 50.7% Spanish_Galicia + 49.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.51
12 68% Cyprian + 32% Southeast_English @ 6.54
13 82.7% Italian_Jewish + 17.3% Swedish @ 6.54
14 87.6% South_Italian + 12.4% West_Norwegian @ 6.56
15 84% South_Italian + 16% West_German @ 6.63
16 68.8% Cyprian + 31.2% North_Dutch @ 6.64
17 87.7% South_Italian + 12.3% Norwegian @ 6.72
18 83% Italian_Jewish + 17% Orcadian @ 6.76
19 82.5% Italian_Jewish + 17.5% North_Dutch @ 6.78
20 50.5% Greek_Thessaly + 49.5% Italian_Jewish @ 6.78



somehow people from molise/campobasso have closer results to many than many apulians do, which i find both odd and interesting


):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.79
2 West_Med 15.96
3 North_Sea 14.46
4 West_Asian 12.40
5 Atlantic 12.37
6 Red_Sea 5.45
7 Baltic 5.31
8 Eastern_Euro 2.74





# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 6.15
2 East_Sicilian 6.15
3 South_Italian 6.64
4 Ashkenazi 6.94
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.14
6 Italian_Jewish 7.82
7 West_Sicilian 7.87
8 Greek_Thessaly 9.57
9 Sephardic_Jewish 9.92
10 Algerian_Jewish 10.32
11 Greek 10.97
12 Tuscan 11.52
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.47
14 Tunisian_Jewish 13.51
15 Cyprian 15.63
16 Bulgarian 17.32
17 North_Italian 17.65
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.55
19 Romanian 18.84
20 Syrian 19.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66% Cyprian + 34% West_German @ 3.56
2 52.3% Lebanese_Druze + 47.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.66
3 56.5% North_Italian + 43.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.81
4 72.3% Cyprian + 27.7% West_Norwegian @ 3.98
5 69.8% Cyprian + 30.2% Southwest_English @ 4
6 67.5% Tuscan + 32.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.02
7 85.1% Italian_Jewish + 14.9% Swedish @ 4.08
8 55.1% Lebanese_Christian + 44.9% French @ 4.09
9 71.7% Cyprian + 28.3% Orcadian @ 4.14
10 85.6% Italian_Jewish + 14.4% West_Norwegian @ 4.16
11 64.3% Cyprian + 35.7% French @ 4.17
12 70.2% Cyprian + 29.8% Southeast_English @ 4.19
13 85.2% Italian_Jewish + 14.8% Norwegian @ 4.19
14 81.7% Italian_Jewish + 18.3% West_German @ 4.23
15 71.7% Cyprian + 28.3% Norwegian @ 4.25
16 51.7% Lebanese_Druze + 48.3% Portuguese @ 4.25
17 85.4% Italian_Jewish + 14.6% North_Swedish @ 4.26
18 71% Cyprian + 29% North_Dutch @ 4.29
19 71.5% Cyprian + 28.5% West_Scottish @ 4.41
20 56.8% Italian_Jewish + 43.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.43





Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 East_Sicilian @ 7.069312
2 Central_Greek @ 7.194544
3 South_Italian @ 7.697491
4 Ashkenazi @ 7.913111
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 8.405022
6 Italian_Jewish @ 8.867106
7 West_Sicilian @ 9.135261
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 11.155136
9 Sephardic_Jewish @ 11.375813
10 Algerian_Jewish @ 11.717696
11 Greek @ 12.753127
12 Tuscan @ 13.503580
13 Libyan_Jewish @ 14.885240
14 Tunisian_Jewish @ 15.278941
15 Cyprian @ 18.325743
16 Bulgarian @ 20.192181
17 North_Italian @ 20.685474
18 Lebanese_Muslim @ 21.425312
19 Romanian @ 22.011297
20 Syrian @ 22.087654

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.223975


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Sardinian +25% Swedish @ 3.330989


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
1 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + West_German @ 2.930022
2 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.059253
3 Algerian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.103042
4 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.273520
5 Algerian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.294445
6 Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.306143
7 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 3.330989
8 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 3.366293
9 Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + West_German @ 3.385510
10 Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan + West_German @ 3.412135
11 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + West_German @ 3.415657
12 East_Sicilian + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.417662
13 Italian_Jewish + Samaritan + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.429278
14 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Christian + West_German @ 3.432648
15 Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.445624
16 Cyprian + Libyan_Jewish + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.445721
17 Cyprian + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + West_German @ 3.467362
18 Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + South_Italian + West_German @ 3.470246
19 Algerian_Jewish + East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.474312
20 Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + West_German @ 3.488388

Done.

[crazyladybutterfly]

what people don't understand of south italians is that people from historically bigger cities are often going to have more northern and sometimes even more middle eastern (often a combination of both) than average south italian whose ancestors were village dwellers who had no other option than to fuck their (distant) cousins for centuries , no offense to put but there is a scientifically proven slight inbreeding among older south italians (not the younger ones and the inbreeding was for 2nd and 3rd grade cousins so not really bad)
they were far less likely to marry and/or breed with foreigners than people from larger cities.