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MercifulServant
04-24-2018, 03:01 AM
I just checked genesis because I wanted to test it I was curious what I would get and genesis shifted me very south. for example on PuntDNAL k15 on normal Gedmatch I was like 30.70 med and on genesis im 34.93 med Im really confused which one is the real result?
MercifulServant
04-24-2018, 03:04 AM
bump
MercifulServant
04-24-2018, 03:14 AM
bump
Friends of Oliver Society
04-24-2018, 03:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmXqf768bjE
Bobby Martnen
04-24-2018, 03:18 AM
What's GEDmatch Genesis?
Dick
04-24-2018, 03:20 AM
What's GEDmatch Genesis?

Phil Collins' new rock band.
Dick
04-24-2018, 03:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmXqf768bjE

Someone's in a happy mood tonight. Did you bet on the Leafs, fucker?
Friends of Oliver Society
04-24-2018, 03:25 AM
Someone's in a happy mood tonight. Did you bet on the Leafs, fucker?

No, just 3 baseball games. I was in a terrible mood on Saturday. ALL my UFC bets failed.
MercifulServant
04-24-2018, 01:46 PM
Bump
Bosniensis
04-24-2018, 01:50 PM
Gedmatch genesis compares average result with Gedmatch Genesis kits, while normal Gedmatch is much bigger and therefore results are different.

They should be very similar at least.

If you used 23andMe on Gedmatch Genesis then tested FTDNA or any other on normal Gedmatch result should be significantly different due 23andMe having smaller number of SNP's for Gedmatch tests.
Leto
04-24-2018, 02:14 PM
My results are virtually the same (FTDNA raw data).
MercifulServant
04-24-2018, 02:26 PM
My results are virtually the same (FTDNA raw data).

mine are very different . Show I try deleting my kit and reuploading?
Leto
04-24-2018, 02:28 PM
mine are very different . Show I try deleting my kit and reuploading?
Yeah, delete both and then upload following their instructions. Then post Eurogenes and Dodecad for example. We'll see.
StonyArabia
04-24-2018, 02:56 PM
My results are virtually the same (FTDNA raw data).

It's probably the new 23andme chip. I have had the old chip and my results are the same as well.
kaltar
04-25-2018, 11:29 AM
sometimes happens
Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
04-25-2018, 11:36 AM
My results are virtually the same (FTDNA raw data).

Same with mine but I did 23andMe (V4 chip).
MercifulServant
05-13-2018, 06:42 PM
Yeah, delete both and then upload following their instructions. Then post Eurogenes and Dodecad for example. We'll see.

I reuplouded and they are still very different

Dodecad K12b Normal Gedmatch

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.83
2 Atlantic_Med 26.3
3 Caucasus 22.22
4 Southwest_Asian 6.39
5 Gedrosia 3.79
6 East_Asian 0.81
7 Siberian 0.34
8 Northwest_African 0.32

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 6.93
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.75
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.15
4 Hungarians (Behar) 10.08
5 German (Dodecad) 15.81
6 O_Italian (Dodecad) 18.94
7 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 20.33
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.41
9 French (Dodecad) 21.55
10 Dutch (Dodecad) 21.7
11 French (HGDP) 21.77
12 Greek (Dodecad) 22.82
13 TSI30 (Metspalu) 22.9
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.3
15 Tuscan (HGDP) 23.41
16 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 23.5
17 Kent (1000Genomes) 23.86
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 23.99
19 C_Italian (Dodecad) 24.17
20 English (Dodecad) 24.17


Dodecad K12b Genesis

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 36.33
2 Atlantic_Med 31.9
3 Caucasus 19.93
4 Southwest_Asian 6.58
5 Siberian 2.31
6 Gedrosia 2.02
7 East_Asian 0.92

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 10.54
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.74
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.18
4 Hungarians (Behar) 13.15
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 15.34
6 German (Dodecad) 15.87
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.2
8 French (Dodecad) 17
9 French (HGDP) 17.09
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.91
11 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 18.34
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.95
13 Dutch (Dodecad) 19.7
14 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.83
15 Kent (1000Genomes) 21.13
16 C_Italian (Dodecad) 21.37
17 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 21.49
18 English (Dodecad) 21.62
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 21.77
20 Baleares (1000Genomes) 22.05
Leto
05-13-2018, 06:45 PM
I reuplouded and they are still very different

Genesis is generally not good, it's a beta version after all.
MercifulServant
05-13-2018, 06:45 PM
Genesis is generally not good, it's a beta version after all.

So is the Normal one more reliable?
Leto
05-13-2018, 06:49 PM
So is the Normal one more reliable?
Yes, definitely.
Maintenance
05-13-2018, 07:07 PM
My results

k23b GENESIS

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 46.22
2 European_Early_Farmers 17.77
3 Near_East 14.69
4 South_Central_Asian 10.25
5 North_African 5.6
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.26
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.74
8 South_Indian 0.61
9 Archaic_Human 0.27
10 Ancestral_Altaic 0.21
11 Archaic_African 0.2
12 African_Pygmy 0.18
13 East_African 0.01


Normal GEDMATCH

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 46.23
2 European_Early_Farmers 17.77
3 Near_East 14.67
4 South_Central_Asian 10.24
5 North_African 5.6
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.26
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.74
8 South_Indian 0.62
9 Archaic_Human 0.27
10 Ancestral_Altaic 0.21
11 Archaic_African 0.2
12 African_Pygmy 0.18
13 East_African 0.01
MercifulServant
07-17-2018, 03:01 PM
Yeah, delete both and then upload following their instructions. Then post Eurogenes and Dodecad for example. We'll see.

The different results are gone genesis fixed my results they are now the same as my normal gedmatch result


Normal Gedmatch

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.83
2 Atlantic_Med 26.3
3 Caucasus 22.22
4 Southwest_Asian 6.39
5 Gedrosia 3.79
6 East_Asian 0.81
7 Siberian 0.34
8 Northwest_African 0.32


Genesis

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.85
2 Atlantic_Med 26.31
3 Caucasus 22.24
4 Southwest_Asian 6.39
5 Gedrosia 3.75
6 East_Asian 0.77
7 Siberian 0.37
8 Northwest_African 0.33
Ilma
09-30-2018, 03:31 PM
The different results are gone genesis fixed my results they are now the same as my normal gedmatch result


Normal Gedmatch

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.83
2 Atlantic_Med 26.3
3 Caucasus 22.22
4 Southwest_Asian 6.39
5 Gedrosia 3.79
6 East_Asian 0.81
7 Siberian 0.34
8 Northwest_African 0.32


Genesis

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.85
2 Atlantic_Med 26.31
3 Caucasus 22.24
4 Southwest_Asian 6.39
5 Gedrosia 3.75
6 East_Asian 0.77
7 Siberian 0.37
8 Northwest_African 0.33




My results

k23b GENESIS

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 46.22
2 European_Early_Farmers 17.77
3 Near_East 14.69
4 South_Central_Asian 10.25
5 North_African 5.6
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.26
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.74
8 South_Indian 0.61
9 Archaic_Human 0.27
10 Ancestral_Altaic 0.21
11 Archaic_African 0.2
12 African_Pygmy 0.18
13 East_African 0.01


Normal GEDMATCH

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 46.23
2 European_Early_Farmers 17.77
3 Near_East 14.67
4 South_Central_Asian 10.24
5 North_African 5.6
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.26
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.74
8 South_Indian 0.62
9 Archaic_Human 0.27
10 Ancestral_Altaic 0.21
11 Archaic_African 0.2
12 African_Pygmy 0.18
13 East_African 0.01

How do you run them differently ? When I try to log in with Genesis it's switching to normal Gedmatch so I can't use Genesis !