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Sikeliot
04-24-2018, 10:22 PM
Trapani result is westward shifting (toward Spain and north Italy) and northward shifting (toward mainland Greece) and is closer to Tuscany than to the Sicilian average.

The Palermo result is very shifted toward Jews of all types, Turks, Levantines and is one of the most outlying results I've seen.

And to think these two provinces border one another!

Castellammare del Golfo, Trapani, far west Sicily:

MDLP K23b:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.36
2 European_Early_Farmers 24.83
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 17.06
4 Near_East 10.01
5 South_Central_Asian 5.94
6 North_African 5.62


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 5.414656
2 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.421395
3 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 6.467187
4 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 6.535940
5 Ashkenazi_ @ 6.897604
6 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 6.960618
7 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.022649
8 Sicilian_East_ @ 7.868669
9 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 7.897441
10 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 7.910886
11 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 8.251633
12 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 8.352943
13 Central_Greek_ @ 8.410925
14 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 8.520185
15 Maltese_ @ 8.687609
16 Kosovar_ @ 8.920660
17 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 8.950463
18 Romanian_Jew_ @ 9.345041
19 Greek_ @ 9.561756
20 Greek_Athens_ @ 9.771399

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Northwest_ +50% Sicilian_West_ @ 2.901141


Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.77
2 Atlantic 20.21
3 West_Med 17.99
4 North_Sea 12.72
5 West_Asian 12.01
6 Red_Sea 6.6
7 Baltic 4.45
8 Eastern_Euro 0.98
9 South_Asian 0.65
10 Northeast_African 0.56
11 Amerindian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 4.79
2 West_Sicilian 4.87
3 Italian_Abruzzo 5
4 East_Sicilian 7.67
5 Central_Greek 8.5
6 South_Italian 8.92
7 Ashkenazi 10.38
8 Greek 10.39
9 Greek_Thessaly 10.73
10 North_Italian 10.86
11 Italian_Jewish 11.86
12 Sephardic_Jewish 12.59
13 Algerian_Jewish 13.53
14 Bulgarian 15.69
15 Spanish_Extremadura 16.92
16 Romanian 17.04
17 Tunisian_Jewish 17.06
18 Spanish_Murcia 17.28
19 Spanish_Andalucia 17.28
20 Portuguese 17.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 46.7% Cyprian @ 2.47
2 75.5% Tuscan + 24.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.64
3 57% Spanish_Cantabria + 43% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.72
4 53.1% Spanish_Aragon + 46.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.74
5 66.3% South_Italian + 33.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.77
6 81.2% Tuscan + 18.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.8
7 60.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 39.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.8
8 55.2% Spanish_Murcia + 44.8% Cyprian @ 2.8
9 59.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 40.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.8
10 55.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 44.3% Cyprian @ 2.82
11 66.8% South_Italian + 33.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.84
12 52.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 47.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.85
13 59.4% Spanish_Aragon + 40.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.85
14 53.9% North_Italian + 46.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.87
15 86.1% Tuscan + 13.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.88
16 52.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 47.2% Cyprian @ 2.9
17 60.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 39.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.9
18 69.4% South_Italian + 30.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.94
19 86.6% Tuscan + 13.4% Syrian @ 2.95
20 88.1% Tuscan + 11.9% Palestinian @ 2.96


Dodecad K12b:
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 31.09
2 Caucasus 27.87
3 North_European 17.08
4 Southwest_Asian 12.66
5 Gedrosia 6.9
6 Northwest_African 3.3
7 East_African 0.43
8 South_Asian 0.41
9 Siberian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 C_Italian (Dodecad) 6.73
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 7.16
3 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 9.24
4 Tuscan (HGDP) 9.36
5 Sicilian (Dodecad) 9.41
6 TSI30 (Metspalu) 9.51
7 Greek (Dodecad) 10.53
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 12.07
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 12.54
10 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.01
11 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 14.87
12 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 15.25
13 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.46
14 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 19.19
15 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 19.57
16 Romanians (Behar) 20.05
17 Baleares (1000Genomes) 22.94
18 Galicia (1000Genomes) 23.74
19 Canarias (1000Genomes) 23.96
20 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 24.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 27.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.46
2 71.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 28.9% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.5
3 72% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 28% British (Dodecad) @ 1.51
4 71.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 28.5% English (Dodecad) @ 1.51
5 72.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 27.3% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.52
6 73% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 27% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.52
7 72.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 27.1% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.52
8 71.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 28.5% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.54
9 71.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 28.4% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.63
10 72.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 27.4% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.71
11 71% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 29% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.78
12 68.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.6% Jordanians (Behar) @ 1.89
13 69.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 30.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.92
14 66.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 33.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.95
15 66.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 33.3% French (HGDP) @ 2.04
16 69.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.22
17 67.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 32.4% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.37
18 75.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 24.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.82
19 64.1% North_Italian (HGDP) + 35.9% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.84
20 85.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 14.1% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.05


PuntDNA-L K13:
# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 39.25
2 West_Asia 20.68
3 NE_Europe 19.87
4 SW_Asia 15.35
5 South_Asia 1.74
6 East_Africa 0.91
7 Americas 0.88
8 Siberia 0.68
9 Oceania 0.35
10 South_Africa 0.28
11 SE_Asia 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 3.6
2 Ashkenazy_Jew 5.41
3 Italian_Sicilian 5.79
4 Greek_Central 6.11
5 Greek_Thessaly 8.03
6 Albanian 8.3
7 Sephardic_Jew 8.95
8 Italian_Tuscan 9.11
9 Kosovar 9.78
10 Bulgarian 14.27
11 Macedonian 14.43
12 Italian_Bergamo 14.66
13 Romanian 16.55
14 Montenegrin 17.42
15 Cypriot 18.29
16 Turkish 18.35
17 Serbian 19.74
18 Spaniard 19.93
19 Turkish_Aydin 20.17
20 Turkish_Kayseri 20.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.7% Syrian + 44.3% French_Basque @ 1.92
2 54.2% Spaniard + 45.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.25
3 53.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 46.1% French_Basque @ 2.27
4 53.2% Spaniard + 46.8% Syrian @ 2.31
5 55% Spaniard + 45% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.37
6 54.8% Lebanese_Druze + 45.2% French_Basque @ 2.43
7 62.3% Italian_Bergamo + 37.7% Jordanian @ 2.56
8 92.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 7.1% Saharawi @ 2.59
9 91.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 8.3% Algerian @ 2.6
10 96.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 3.1% Paniya @ 2.61
11 96.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 3.3% Mawasi @ 2.62
12 53.6% Spaniard + 46.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.64
13 92.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 7.2% Mozabite @ 2.64
14 91% Italian_Abruzzo + 9% Tunisian @ 2.68
15 92.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 7.5% Moroccan @ 2.7
16 96.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 3.1% Pulliyar @ 2.72
17 80.9% Ashkenazy_Jew + 19.1% Spaniard @ 2.74
18 83% Italian_Sicilian + 17% French @ 2.74
19 50.5% Sephardic_Jew + 49.5% Italian_Tuscan @ 2.75
20 79.5% Italian_Sicilian + 20.5% Spaniard @ 2.77



Cerda, Palermo province, central Sicily:

MDLP K23;
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.26
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.85
3 Near_East 13.15
4 North_African 8.97
5 South_Central_Asian 8.70
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 8.58
7 East_African 1.81


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 5.407812
2 French_Jew_ @ 5.514675
3 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 5.906076
4 Turk_Jew_ @ 5.923426
5 Sicilian_West_ @ 6.577747
6 Italian_Jew_ @ 6.708899
7 Maltese_ @ 6.866210
8 Sicilian_East_ @ 7.081246
9 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.279457
10 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 7.428397
11 Cretan_ @ 7.700623
12 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 8.047595
13 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.409288
14 Syrian_Jew_ @ 9.822048
15 Romanian_Jew_ @ 9.871379
16 Ashkenazi_ @ 10.207126
17 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 10.305385
18 Sicilian_Center_ @ 10.980289
19 Libyan_Jew_ @ 11.195664
20 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 11.329981

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Sicilian_West_ +50% Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.240089

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Muslim_ +25% Portugese_ +25% Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 1.963098


Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.21
2 West_Med 20.42
3 West_Asian 14.36
4 North_Sea 10.2
5 Atlantic 10.12
6 Red_Sea 6.64
7 Eastern_Euro 2.18
8 Sub-Saharan 2.16
9 Baltic 1.76
10 South_Asian 1.28
11 Northeast_African 0.67

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 6.08
2 Italian_Jewish 6.45
3 East_Sicilian 6.74
4 Algerian_Jewish 7.53
5 Central_Greek 7.62
6 Sephardic_Jewish 8.24
7 Ashkenazi 8.39
8 West_Sicilian 9.33
9 Italian_Abruzzo 9.69
10 Libyan_Jewish 11.47
11 Tunisian_Jewish 11.67
12 Greek_Thessaly 12.71
13 Cyprian 13.04
14 Greek 13.38
15 Tuscan 13.78
16 Lebanese_Muslim 16.88
17 Syrian 17.23
18 Samaritan 19.06
19 Turkish 19.33
20 North_Italian 19.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Cyprian + 31.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.58
2 68.4% Cyprian + 31.6% Portuguese @ 4.93
3 75.6% South_Italian + 24.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.1
4 50.5% Algerian_Jewish + 49.5% Central_Greek @ 5.25
5 87.5% South_Italian + 12.5% Algerian @ 5.26
6 64.9% Central_Greek + 35.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.26
7 59.9% Italian_Jewish + 40.1% Central_Greek @ 5.3
8 68.4% Cyprian + 31.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.32
9 55.5% South_Italian + 44.5% Italian_Jewish @ 5.34
10 56.4% East_Sicilian + 43.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.37
11 53.4% Italian_Jewish + 46.6% East_Sicilian @ 5.38
12 61.8% Cyprian + 38.2% North_Italian @ 5.4
13 89.7% South_Italian + 10.3% Moroccan @ 5.41
14 65.6% South_Italian + 34.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.43
15 76.9% Italian_Jewish + 23.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.44
16 90.1% South_Italian + 9.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.47
17 72.1% East_Sicilian + 27.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.5
18 51.6% Cyprian + 48.4% Tuscan @ 5.5
19 89.3% South_Italian + 10.7% Tunisian @ 5.54
20 92% Italian_Jewish + 8% Tabassaran @ 5.57


Dodecad K12b:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 33.91
2 Atlantic_Med 26.64
3 Southwest_Asian 14.57
4 North_European 9.49
5 Gedrosia 7.93
6 Northwest_African 4.74
7 Sub_Saharan 1.23
8 East_African 1.09
9 Southeast_Asian 0.37
10 South_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 5.86
2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.9
3 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.23
4 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 7.33
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 7.71
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 8.03
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.56
8 Greek (Dodecad) 12.73
9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.75
10 Cypriots (Behar) 16.21
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.44
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.4
13 Lebanese (Behar) 18.52
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.11
15 Syrians (Behar) 20.92
16 Turks (Behar) 21.28
17 Jordanians (Behar) 21.76
18 Druze (HGDP) 22.33
19 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.3
20 Palestinian (HGDP) 23.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.4% Druze (HGDP) + 40.6% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 1.71
2 59.5% Druze (HGDP) + 40.5% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 1.86
3 61.1% Druze (HGDP) + 38.9% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 2.17
4 59.4% Druze (HGDP) + 40.6% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 2.3
5 62.1% Druze (HGDP) + 37.9% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 2.32
6 59.5% Druze (HGDP) + 40.5% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 2.62
7 58.7% Druze (HGDP) + 41.3% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 2.65
8 90.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.66
9 90.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.75
10 90.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.5% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.76
11 89.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 10.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.77
12 90.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.5% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.78
13 89.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 10.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.83
14 90.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.83
15 63.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.2% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.83
16 90.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.9% English (Dodecad) @ 2.83
17 63.4% Druze (HGDP) + 36.6% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 2.84
18 90.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.7% British (Dodecad) @ 2.84
19 90% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 10% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.85
20 90.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.8% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.86


PuntDNA-L K13:
# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 38.49
2 West_Asia 24.78
3 SW_Asia 18.27
4 NE_Europe 12.37
5 South_Asia 1.69
6 West_Africa 1.42
7 East_Africa 1.24
8 Siberia 0.75
9 South_Africa 0.59
10 SE_Asia 0.27
11 NE_Asia 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jew 3.77
2 Italian_Sicilian 4.14
3 Ashkenazy_Jew 5.37
4 Italian_Abruzzo 9.71
5 Greek_Central 10.63
6 Cypriot 10.78
7 Turkish 14.32
8 Greek_Thessaly 15.34
9 Syrian 15.56
10 Lebanese_Christian 15.67
11 Albanian 15.9
12 Turkish_Kayseri 16.09
13 Lebanese_Druze 16.31
14 Jordanian 16.95
15 Italian_Tuscan 17.1
16 Lebanese_Muslim 17.14
17 Kosovar 17.3
18 Turkish_Aydin 17.75
19 Palestinian 19.66
20 Tunisian 21.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.7% Italian_Sicilian + 16.3% Jordanian @ 2.56
2 85.8% Italian_Sicilian + 14.2% Palestinian @ 2.6
3 86.8% Italian_Sicilian + 13.2% Samaritan_Jew @ 2.61
4 88.6% Italian_Sicilian + 11.4% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.67
5 88.6% Italian_Sicilian + 11.4% Egyptian @ 2.75
6 90.7% Italian_Sicilian + 9.3% Yemeni @ 2.85
7 83.7% Italian_Sicilian + 16.3% Syrian @ 2.87
8 83.9% Italian_Sicilian + 16.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.91
9 97.3% Sephardic_Jew + 2.7% Luo @ 2.93
10 85.3% Italian_Sicilian + 14.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.94
11 97.4% Sephardic_Jew + 2.6% Bantu_NE @ 2.95
12 97.3% Sephardic_Jew + 2.7% Mada @ 2.95
13 97.4% Sephardic_Jew + 2.6% Bantu_SE @ 2.95
14 97.4% Sephardic_Jew + 2.6% Kaba @ 2.95
15 92.8% Italian_Sicilian + 7.2% Saudi @ 2.97
16 84.8% Italian_Sicilian + 15.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.99
17 97.7% Sephardic_Jew + 2.3% Bantu_SW @ 3
18 96.5% Sephardic_Jew + 3.5% Fulani @ 3
19 97.4% Sephardic_Jew + 2.6% Biaka_Pygmy @ 3.01
20 93.8% Italian_Sicilian + 6.2% Bedouin @ 3.02

kaltar
04-25-2018, 11:09 AM
https://i.imgur.com/IZUPgPS.png

Sikeliot
04-25-2018, 11:38 AM
https://i.imgur.com/IZUPgPS.png

It's incredible to me how different the two results are despite being from neighboring provinces. The Trapani result is halfway between Sicilian average and Tuscan, while the Palermo result is halfway between the Sicilian average and Sephardim (and is closest to Italkim Jews). Then again Palermo can more accurately be described as central, not western, Sicily.

Sikeliot
04-25-2018, 11:43 AM
https://i.imgur.com/IZUPgPS.png

Can you put these 4 on there as well?

Sommatino, Caltanissetta province:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.24
2 West_Med 19.25
3 West_Asian 14.06
4 Atlantic 11.74
5 North_Sea 11.03
6 Red_Sea 6.36
7 Baltic 4.79
8 Sub-Saharan 1.01
9 Southeast_Asian 0.63
10 Northeast_African 0.57
11 Oceanian 0.22
12 Amerindian 0.09
13 Siberian 0.01


Villarosa, Enna province:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.63
2 Atlantic 17.37
3 West_Med 15.82
4 West_Asian 13.07
5 North_Sea 9.51
6 Red_Sea 6.02
7 Baltic 4.85
8 Eastern_Euro 2.1
9 Northeast_African 1.64


Polizzi Generosa, Palermo province:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.6
2 West_Asian 16.11
3 West_Med 14.93
4 Atlantic 14.87
5 North_Sea 9.46
6 Baltic 7.17
7 Red_Sea 5.82
8 Northeast_African 1.56
9 Eastern_Euro 1.46
10 Southeast_Asian 0.01


Inland Catania:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.32
2 West_Med 16.92
3 West_Asian 13.55
4 Atlantic 11.55
5 North_Sea 9.17
6 Red_Sea 6.31
7 Eastern_Euro 5.84
8 Baltic 5.26
9 Sub-Saharan 0.84
10 South_Asian 0.56
11 Northeast_African 0.54
12 Amerindian 0.06
13 Siberian 0.06
14 Oceanian 0.03

kaltar
04-25-2018, 12:09 PM
Can you put these 4 on there as well?

Sommatino, Caltanissetta province:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.24
2 West_Med 19.25
3 West_Asian 14.06
4 Atlantic 11.74
5 North_Sea 11.03
6 Red_Sea 6.36
7 Baltic 4.79
8 Sub-Saharan 1.01
9 Southeast_Asian 0.63
10 Northeast_African 0.57
11 Oceanian 0.22
12 Amerindian 0.09
13 Siberian 0.01


Villarosa, Enna province:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.63
2 Atlantic 17.37
3 West_Med 15.82
4 West_Asian 13.07
5 North_Sea 9.51
6 Red_Sea 6.02
7 Baltic 4.85
8 Eastern_Euro 2.1
9 Northeast_African 1.64


Polizzi Generosa, Palermo province:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.6
2 West_Asian 16.11
3 West_Med 14.93
4 Atlantic 14.87
5 North_Sea 9.46
6 Baltic 7.17
7 Red_Sea 5.82
8 Northeast_African 1.56
9 Eastern_Euro 1.46
10 Southeast_Asian 0.01


Inland Catania:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.32
2 West_Med 16.92
3 West_Asian 13.55
4 Atlantic 11.55
5 North_Sea 9.17
6 Red_Sea 6.31
7 Eastern_Euro 5.84
8 Baltic 5.26
9 Sub-Saharan 0.84
10 South_Asian 0.56
11 Northeast_African 0.54
12 Amerindian 0.06
13 Siberian 0.06
14 Oceanian 0.03


they are shifted towards Greece mainland/Greek islands

https://i.imgur.com/W8uzBRK.png

Sikeliot
04-25-2018, 02:29 PM
they are shifted towards Greece mainland/Greek islands

https://i.imgur.com/W8uzBRK.png

The Catania and Enna are. Caltanissetta is going in a Levantine or Jewish way like the one from Palermo. And it makes sense due to the villages being close.

Alessio
04-25-2018, 03:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk0VnnvWkBE

This is Sicily (Messina) and diversity in phenotype for you in Neapolitan-like tongue.

Alessio
04-25-2018, 03:57 PM
The Catania and Enna are. Caltanissetta is going in a Levantine or Jewish way like the one from Palermo. And it makes sense due to the villages being close.

I'd love to see some Campanians and especially some Neapolitans on this plot.

Sikeliot
04-25-2018, 04:23 PM
The one palermitan from polizzi generosa is similar to some Aegean islanders with high Caucasian.

Bobby Martnen
04-25-2018, 08:15 PM
It's incredible to me how different the two results are despite being from neighboring provinces. The Trapani result is halfway between Sicilian average and Tuscan, while the Palermo result is halfway between the Sicilian average and Sephardim (and is closest to Italkim Jews). Then again Palermo can more accurately be described as central, not western, Sicily.

Is the Trapanese the old man that I've posted before?

Sikeliot
04-25-2018, 08:22 PM
Is the Trapanese the old man that I've posted before?

No, someone else.

The areas in Sicily likely to yield the greatest genetic differences seem to be Trapani and Syracuse.

Bobby Martnen
04-25-2018, 08:24 PM
No, someone else.

The areas in Sicily likely to yield the greatest genetic differences seem to be Trapani and Syracuse.

I wonder what my great-grandfather was like autosomally. I'd assume he was one of the more northern-shifted ones, despite being J2.

Sikeliot
04-25-2018, 08:29 PM
I wonder what my great-grandfather was like autosomally. I'd assume he was one of the more northern-shifted ones, despite being J2.

If he's palermitan then probably not unless from the extreme west of the province.

Bobby Martnen
04-25-2018, 08:31 PM
If he's palermitan then probably not unless from the extreme west of the province.

He had light eyes, and my mom seems abnormally northwestern shifted for her heritage. (i.e. she shifts northwest of my grandfather)

User50
04-26-2018, 03:12 PM
interesting

Leto
04-26-2018, 04:59 PM
I wonder what my great-grandfather was like autosomally. I'd assume he was one of the more northern-shifted ones, despite being J2.
Was he a second-generation American or first? Do you have four grandparents born in the US?

Bobby Martnen
04-26-2018, 05:04 PM
Was he a second-generation American or first? Do you have four grandparents born in the US?

He was a first-generation immigrant. All four of my grandparents were born in America, in the same state even.

Leto
04-26-2018, 05:06 PM
He was a first-generation immigrant. All four of my grandparents were born in America, in the same state even.
So you are ethnically American to me. :)

Bobby Martnen
04-26-2018, 05:06 PM
So you are ethnically American to me. :)

:)