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Leto
04-27-2018, 03:24 PM
https://www.technologyreview.com/the-download/611033/the-golden-state-killer-was-found-via-dna-genealogy-and-he-wont-be-the-last/


As genetic tests become cheap and pervasive, it will be increasingly difficult to hide from law enforcers.

The crimes: On April 24, police arrested Joseph James DeAngelo, aged 72, and singled him out as the East Area Rapist—a serial killer who murdered at least 12 people in California between 1974 and 1986. Until then, he had eluded capture.

How they found him: Investigators told the Mercury News that they’d compared old crime-scene DNA with a freely accessible ancestry database, called GEDMatch, where people submit DNA to find relatives. That landed the police somewhere in DeAngelo’s family tree—close enough to zero in on the suspect using other clues, like his age, his sex, and places he probably lived.

It’s getting harder to hide: More than 12 million people have signed up with genealogy services of all kinds. Millions more have their DNA stored in police databases. As these numbers grow, it will be harder for anyone to avoid detection.

Time to worry? Perhaps. In a statement, GEDMatch said it was “not approached by law enforcement or anyone else about this case or about the DNA,” adding that its terms of service state that DNA on the site can “be used for other uses.” Other genealogy sites, including 23andMe, told MIT Technology Review that they had never shared DNA data with law enforcement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Killer

The whole statement issued by GEDmatch on April 27:

April 27, 2108 We understand that the GEDmatch database was used to help identify the Golden State Killer. Although we were not approached by law enforcement or anyone else about this case or about the DNA, it has always been GEDmatch's policy to inform users that the database could be used for other uses, as set forth in the Site Policy ( linked to the login page and https://www.gedmatch.com/policy.php). While the database was created for genealogical research, it is important that GEDmatch participants understand the possible uses of their DNA, including identification of relatives that have committed crimes or were victims of crimes. If you are concerned about non-genealogical uses of your DNA, you should not upload your DNA to the database and/or you should remove DNA that has already been uploaded.To delete your registration contact gedmatch@gmail.com

KMack
04-27-2018, 03:43 PM
I was wondering how the police caught him. Might as well assume, with any testing company, when you give them your dna is out there regardless of their testing policy.

The Illyrian Warrior
04-27-2018, 04:02 PM
We should be aware (I did beforehand) when you do a DNA test in any of testing company your data won't be private anymore or in anyway, many people or institutions esp. law enforcement or medical research institutions would have access to that data.

Tacitus
04-27-2018, 04:17 PM
We should be aware (I did beforehand) when you do a DNA test in any of testing company your data won't be private in anymore or in anyway, many people or institutions esp. law enforcement or medical research institutions would have access to that data.

Ultimately this is what's been holding me back from taking a test. Fortunately there are some measures you can take to mitigate something like this happening to you. For example, with 23andme DO NOT choose the option to have your DNA biobanked when registering your kit (they'll discard and destroy your sample instead), and once you have your results and/or downloaded your raw data, ask to have your account deleted (as part of the account deletion process they will remove you raw data from their database). Same thing with GEDMatch, once you have your results, request that they delete your account. There are, of course, no guarantees that they actually go through with any of these requests.

Leto
04-27-2018, 04:20 PM
I suspect those companies are run by globalists.

Leto
04-27-2018, 04:20 PM
Ultimately this is what's been holding me back from taking a test. Fortunately there are some measures you can take to mitigate something like this happening to you. For example, with 23andme DO NOT choose the option to have your DNA biobanked when registering your kit (they'll discard and destroy your sample instead), and once you have your results and/or downloaded your raw data, ask to have your account deleted (as part of the account deletion process they will remove you raw data from their database). Same thing with GEDMatch, once you have your results, request that they delete your account. There are, of course, no guarantees that they actually go through with any of these requests.
Then you won't be able to receive any updates.

Leto
04-27-2018, 04:25 PM
The thing is that DeAngelo didn't take a test himself, they found his relatives and compared their data with his from the crime scenes.

StonyArabia
04-27-2018, 04:25 PM
I suspect those companies are run by globalists.

Possibly but 23andme is owned by an Ashkenazi Jew and AncestryDNA is owned by the Mormon church.

Leto
04-27-2018, 04:27 PM
Possibly but 23andme is owned by an Ashkenazi Jew and AncestryDNA is owned by the Mormon church.
I didn't mean any ethnic or religious background.

KMack
04-27-2018, 04:28 PM
The thing is that DeAngelo didn't take a test himself, they found his relatives and compared their data with his from the crime scenes.

And according to the article the police did not contact the company, but they still gained access to the database.

Hulu
04-27-2018, 05:04 PM
The thing is that DeAngelo didn't take a test himself, they found his relatives and compared their data with his from the crime scenes.

And that is a beautiful thing!

Lucas
04-27-2018, 06:30 PM
And according to the article the police did not contact the company, but they still gained access to the database.

As you can do also. They simply uploaded serial killer genome to Gedmatch and look for his matches:)
Then it was found that this genome has relatives with surname Deangelo living in California.
It wasn't a rocket science.

KMack
04-27-2018, 06:35 PM
As you can do also. They simply uploaded serial killer genome to Gedmatch and look for his matches:)
Then it was found that this genome has relatives with surname Deangelo living in California.
It wasn't a rocket science.

So gedmatch is 100% open sourced, anyone can access it?

Lucas
04-27-2018, 08:18 PM
So gedmatch is 100% open sourced, anyone can access it?

Yes, you can freely check matches of your genome. This is idea of Gedmatch

The Illyrian Warrior
04-27-2018, 08:29 PM
So gedmatch is 100% open sourced, anyone can access it?

Its amateur run site who accept donation, also easiest site to gain full access to.

Thot Whisperer
04-27-2018, 09:06 PM
I had a feeling that they found him through this method, if this how serial killers and rapists can be found or cold cases will be solved then I have no problem with it

KMack
04-27-2018, 09:07 PM
Its amateur run site who accept donation, also easiest site to gain full access to.

Gotcha, thanks.

Lucas
04-27-2018, 09:19 PM
BTW I want to know his K36 results :)))))

Morena
04-27-2018, 11:07 PM
I'm cool with it. that guy was truly a heinous monster.


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