Roman legionary camp discovered in Northern Poland

[Peterski]

"We have evidence that Roman legionaries were present in Kuyavia", say archaeologists:

http://naukawpolsce.pap.pl/aktualnosci/news%2C29296%2Carcheolog-mamy-dowody-na-obecnosc-rzymskich-legionistow-na-terenie-polski

http://naukawpolsce.pap.pl/sites/default/files/inline-images/1_3.jpg

http://naukawpolsce.pap.pl/sites/default/files/inline-images/2_5.jpg

Evidence of Roman presence between the 1st and 4th centuries AD was found in Kuyavia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuyavia

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Polska-woj-kujawy.png/1200px-Polska-woj-kujawy.png

[Peterski]

"Based on the writings of Cassius Dio, Emperor Domitian sent 100 cavalry as support for the Lugii in their war against the Suevi. We cannot exclude the possibility that some of discovered items were parts of equipment of those soldiers." - say archaeologists.

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Edit:

This discovery was made as part of this research project:

http://www.mpov.uw.edu.pl/en/project

[Bosniensis]

Amazing, at least Poles are descent people who won't build trash landfill like some Serbians from Belgrade.

[Ülev]

Ancient times
A permanent settlement arose along the Amber Road, which led from the Roman Empire to the Baltic Sea, traversing the area of present-day Konin. A map drawn by Ptolemy identified the settlement as Setidava (or Getidava), a probable spot to wade across the Warta and containing an emporium of some importance to merchants travelling along the route.[2] The settlement's primary burial ground, situated on the dunes west of the centre of today's Konin, dates back to the Przeworsk culture (Kultura Przeworska) of the 2nd and 3rd centuries AD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konin


Setidava, mentioned by Ptolemy in his Geography, was a Dacian outpost in north central Europe.[1] [2] This town, with the typical Dacian location name ending of -dava, was mentioned in Ptolemy's Germania, who placed it north of Calisia (Kalisia), which is probably located at the present-day town of Kalisz, in Poland.[3] Setidava was not far from the Warta River; most likely it was located in present-day Żnin.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setidava

Dacians, Romanian Dacia... R1b ht-35 - was Mieszko I (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieszko_I_of_Poland) ht-35 by any chance?

[MysteriousWays]

Very neat.

[Peterski]

Poland in 1st - 2nd centuries AD based on Roman sources, but exact locations of towns and tribes are often speculative.

Leukaristos was a Roman camp (rather than a Barbarian town), but nobody knows where exactly was it located. Many speculated, that it was in Upper Silesia, which is how this map shows it - but maybe it was located more to the north, in Kuyavia (or perhaps Kuyavia had another camp?):

https://i.imgur.com/86sT5R1.png

https://i.imgur.com/86sT5R1.png

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Romans were everywhere...

[Peterski]

Speculations about the exact location of Leukaristos in Poland:

Aldrajch: *Leuco-ristus, czyli szukajcie obozu legionowego pod Opolem (http://aldrajch.blogspot.com/2016/09/leuco-ristus-czyli-szukajcie-obozu.html)

Rzymianie w Polsce. Obóz legionów rzymskich w Leucaristo ko?o Leszna | merkuriusz.wieczorna.pl (http://www.poselska.nazwa.pl/wieczorna2/historia-starozytna/rzymianie-w-polsce-oboz-legionow-rzymskich-w-leucaristo-kolo-leszna)

But some scholars see Leukaristos in Slovakia (modern Trencin). The idea that Leukaristos = modern Trencin was born when a Roman inscription mentioning Leukaristos was discovered in Trencin. However, just because one text about Leukaristos was found in Trencin, doesn't mean that this is where Leukaristos was located. That inscription was written by some former Roman officer from Leukaristos. He could write it on his way back from Leukaristos to the Empire.

[Ülev]

Ancient times
A permanent settlement arose along the Amber Road, which led from the Roman Empire to the Baltic Sea, traversing the area of present-day Konin. A map drawn by Ptolemy identified the settlement as Setidava (or Getidava), a probable spot to wade across the Warta and containing an emporium of some importance to merchants travelling along the route.[2] The settlement's primary burial ground, situated on the dunes west of the centre of today's Konin, dates back to the Przeworsk culture (Kultura Przeworska) of the 2nd and 3rd centuries AD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konin


Setidava, mentioned by Ptolemy in his Geography, was a Dacian outpost in north central Europe.[1] [2] This town, with the typical Dacian location name ending of -dava, was mentioned in Ptolemy's Germania, who placed it north of Calisia (Kalisia), which is probably located at the present-day town of Kalisz, in Poland.[3] Setidava was not far from the Warta River; most likely it was located in present-day Żnin.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setidava

Dacians, Romanian Dacia... R1b ht-35 - was Mieszko I (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieszko_I_of_Poland) ht-35 by any chance?

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people

Mieszko I was from Piast Dynasty


Undetermined R1b branch
Professor Tomasz Kozłowski tested the Y-DNA of Prince Janusz III of Masovia, Duke of Czersk, Warsaw, Liw, Zakroczym and Nur. He was a direct descendent of the Piast Dynasty, the first historical dynasty ruling over Poland, starting with Prince Mieszko I (c. 930–992) and ending in 1370 with the death of King Casimir III the Great. The Piast family continued to rule over the Duchy of Masovia until 1526 and the Duchy of Silesia until 1675. Prof. Kozłowski announced that the prince belonged to haplogroup R1b, and therefore probably also other members of that royal lineage, including all the Dukes of Masovia (1138-1526), as long as no non-paternity event took place.

[Peterski]

I tried to find something in English but it is "fresh news" so probably nobody wrote about it in English so far.

Try using free website translation: http://free-website-translation.com/?pl

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Kuyavia was northern territory of the Przeworsk Culture, associated with the Lugian Federation. Northern borders of the Przeworsk Culture were along the Vistula and Noteć (Netze) rivers. Kuyavia was endangered by hostile Suevi to the west, and by hostile Goths to the north.

When Domitian sent 100 cavalry to support the Lugians, it would make sense to send them to Kuyavia.

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Archeologist dr Bartosz Kontny from Warsaw University said:

"Among many discovered metal items, there were also numerous hardware fittings made of copper alloys. It turns out, that these are unique embellishments which were part of Roman equestrian equipment and of uniforms of Roman legionaries.

Many of these findings are unique discoveries in this part of Europe [Barbaricum]."

[Mens-Sarda]

Romans were everywhere...

Roman explorers arrived also south of Sahara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romans_in_Sub-Saharan_Africa

A Roman coin was also found in Congo! while digging to build a new shop

http://www.strangehistory.net/2015/02/10/roman-coin-congo/

In IInd century Roman ambassadors arrived in China, the Chinese historians wrote that they were sent by "Antun", king of "Da Qin" (Antun is the Emperor Antoninus Pius, and Da Qin is the Chinese name of Rome)


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BzFgf1KZYvc/WdNwKxJr9DI/AAAAAAABYPQ/5qkR8yRCVtIcH9_BkugEWBlMAFuBHve8wCLcBGAs/s1600/sahara-small.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dSEC_2WafyA/WOS09i45muI/AAAAAAAAAv8/QR2A3JUtm4A-TMc67YlePIsUx9tXciB8QCLcB/s1600/Byzantine_exports_large_labelled.png

[Böri]

Not a camp but probably some of the Roman legionaries who fled German tribesmen in Teutoburg battle. They escaped obviously inside the deep Slavic forests more to the east.

[Peterski]

During Emperor Nero's reign, there was Roman expedition to the Baltic Sea for amber:

"There is still living a member of the equestrian order, who was sent thither by Julianus, the manager of the gladiatorial exhibitions for the Emperor Nero, to procure a supply of this article. Traversing the coasts of that country and visiting the various markets there, he brought back amber, in such vast quantities, as to admit of the nets, which are used for protecting the podium against the wild beasts, being studded with amber."

Source: Pliny XXXVII, 45. They crossed the area of modern Poland on their way there.

Amber was available mainly on the Baltic coasts of Eastern Pomerania and Prussia.


Not a camp but probably some of the Roman legionaries who fled German tribesmen in Teutoburg battle. They escaped obviously inside the deep Slavic forests more to the east.

Nope, the Romans never arrived to Poland from the west - they came from south along the Amber Road:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Road

Teutoburg was a hundred years before this camp was established. They came to this area from the south:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/1a/5b/3e1a5bfdc9e788a1810100a5893a16ca.jpg

I have this book which summarizes what the Romans and Greeks knew about the area of modern Poland:

https://static1.tradoro.pl/3136/vistulanovae.jpg

[Peterski]

They escaped obviously inside the deep Slavic forests more to the east.

There is no hard evidence that Poland was inhabited by Slavic people during Roman times.

Slavs conquered Poland only during the Migration Period, according to mainstream science.

[grecoroman]

romans and greeks were everywhere.


https://s9.postimg.cc/el4mt9c4f/222.png

[Fieraru]

Wow that is crazy man! I never knew the ancient Romans directly interacted with Slavs and went that far north. But it seem Poland was pretty German at the time from those maps.

If these were sent under Domitian, that was even before the conquest of Dacia. Very interesting.

[Ülev]

I remember that about ten years ago there was a internet forum theory that Germans called themselves Deutsche and Dutch People sounds similar to word Dacia and therefore old Dacia was populated by R1b U106 people and if Dacia really reached nowadays polish Konin (Setidava) then that makes sense
:p