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Kouros
04-30-2018, 09:42 PM
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Albania’s drug crime is now a European problem
I am well aware that some people, if you mention Albania, think of crime and drugs. I am aware too that to erase that image — profoundly unfair to a country of largely peaceful, law abiding people — will take time and, above all, action. Last week we learnt that our action is bearing fruit.
We are indebted to Italy’s financial police, the Guardia di Finanza, and the sophisticated air surveillance they use to spot cannabis plantations for Albanian police forces. The statistics are unambiguous.
A year ago, their flights identified 2,086 plantations across the length and breadth of Albania. This year, even with extended flights and enhanced surveillance, there were just 88. All have now been destroyed by our police.
This is real progress. For years labelled the cannabis capital of Europe, Albania has had enough and we have fought back.
For a quarter of a century cannabis has ruined Albanian lives, corrupted local officials and poisoned national politics, all the while enriching gangsters.
This time last year, the international media were bristling with headlines about record amounts of Albanian acreage sown to cannabis. Perhaps because journalists are attracted by the half-empty more than the half-full, the real story never made it into print. The real story was that record amounts of cannabis were at last being identified — and destroyed.
This is not the end of the story by any means. The people who became rich on the back of drug production must pay for their crimes. We have launched a phase two special operation against them and their assets. We are cleaning up the judicial system, properly vetting judges who for too long were ruled by criminals and their money.
But these criminals don’t operate only in Albania. They are connected and interconnected with organised crime in the cannabis-consuming nations. And the governments of these countries must also bear some responsibility for bringing them to justice.
We in Albania have done everything possible to eradicate a considerable source of a Europe-wide problem. But the consuming countries must vigorously investigate the perpetrators and to freeze the proceeds of their crimes. We will be sharing what we know about them and the evidence we have against them with police forces and financial regulators across Europe in the weeks and months ahead.
These are dangerous people. My government regards them as a national security threat. Yours should too. Many, perhaps most, live elsewhere in Europe, pretending to be legitimate businessmen. But make no mistake. They are criminals whose international businesses enslave people and create havoc everywhere.
They will think nothing of using their wealth to buy influence. They will hire seemingly respected law and accounting firms and lobbying agencies. Through these intermediaries, they will find ways to turn accusations on their head and depict themselves as innocent victims under attack from business rivals or worse, from political adversaries — namely my government and me. We have already had this experience.
Reform of our justice system and the vetting of judges and prosecutors for corruption and incompetence — key demands by the European Union before we can enter into formal accession negotiations — were nearly derailed early this year. Vested interests opposed to the reform brought turmoil to our streets and at times seemed determined to place our young democracy in jeopardy.
It is worth remembering that for 20 years the drug barons were able to maintain the area around the Albanian village of Lazarat as a safe haven for cannabis production and processing, a no-go area for police and other government authorities.
Such was the drugs trade’s clout that one of my predecessors as prime minister acknowledged that non-intervention in the area was his “firm political decision”. My government reversed that policy in 2014 and a major police operation closed Lazarat down. The police destroyed “product” representing nearly a quarter of all cannabis confiscated and destroyed across Albania that year.
That was the beginning of our struggle against the gangsters. Now we need to take another important step.
On Friday I sent a letter to the leaders of all 28 members of the European Union seeking their support in our battle with the drug lords. “We know that some reside and are thriving in your nation too, profiting from illegal drugs, prostitution, human trafficking and other illicit activities,” my letter states. “We want your help and offer ours in return, to catch these people and bring them to justice.”
I hope citizens of all the EU nations will urge their governments to take a stand with us. This is a battle for all of us, and one that must be won.
Kelmendasi
04-30-2018, 09:44 PM
"profoundly unfair to a country of largely peaceful, law abiding people" kinda sad how we are associated with these things.
Kelmendasi
04-30-2018, 09:45 PM
Which Albanian pissed you off today? xD
Kouros
04-30-2018, 09:47 PM
Oh I forgot to copy one part:
"Edi Rama is the prime minister of Albania."
Before I get dozens of hot-tempered, obsessive Albanians claiming this is propaganda: this entire article was written by the current prime minister of Albania, Edi Rama.
And of course, I would only expect this amount of honesty, integrity, and awareness from an Arvanito-Vlach :)
Kelmendasi
04-30-2018, 09:49 PM
Oh I forgot to copy one part:
"Edi Rama is the prime minister of Albania."
Before I get dozens of hot-tempered, obsessive Albanians claiming this is propaganda: this entire article was written by the current prime minister of Albania, Edi Rama.
And of course, I would only expect this amount of honesty, integrity, and awareness from an Arvanito-Vlach :)
Rama a Vlach? Majority won't consider this as propaganda as we do know it's a problem. Anyways Rama himself is most probably involved in illegal activity involving drugs
Kouros
04-30-2018, 09:53 PM
Rama a Vlach?
Isn't he half Vlach?
Kelmendasi
04-30-2018, 09:56 PM
Isn't he half Vlach?
Nah, his father is a Catholic Gheg from Durres and mother is an Orthodox Tosk from a village of Vlore
Magnolia
04-30-2018, 10:05 PM
Does anybody know where are roots of organized crime in Albania?
Why Albania?
When in happened?
Is it somehow connected with Italian mafia?
I'm really interested in I don't want to provoke/insult anyone...
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:21 PM
Isn't he half Vlach?
Lol, no. He is a northerner. No vlachs in northern albania. Rama is a typical gheg, dark and tall.
Kouros
04-30-2018, 10:25 PM
typical gheg, dark and tall.
I don't know or care if all of this is true. But two of these three statements are going to really set off some people on here. Just letting you know brotha. He is very tall though.
Kouros
04-30-2018, 10:26 PM
Nah, his father is a Catholic Gheg from Durres and mother is an Orthodox Tosk from a village of Vlore
As for who ticked me off; there's 3 hotheaded fuckers on here trying to convince me for the nth time that I'm an Albanian, so tonight I will text a resume to my drug dealer and order a qeleshe to really show them.
Drug production is developmental opportunity of Albania :D
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:29 PM
Which Albanian pissed you off today? xD
This is what I mean. Everyone likes to get at me for defense against BS, yet I don't create threads every day about people. Probably like once, about Serbs, lol. Albania definitely has a drug problem. Wasting your sweet time to post about it is another matter.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:30 PM
Lol, no. He is a northerner. No vlachs in northern albania. Rama is a typical gheg, dark and tall.
He has typical Gheg highlander height. But, to be fair. Most Ghegs I see do not look like that facially.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:31 PM
As for who ticked me off; there's 3 hotheaded fuckers on here trying to convince me for the nth time that I'm an Albanian, so tonight I will text a resume to my drug dealer and order a qeleshe to really show them.
Join the club, Greeks telling me I am Greek, Slavs telling me I am Slav. do you not know trolls by now?
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:32 PM
Does anybody know where are roots of organized crime in Albania?
Why Albania?
When in happened?
Is it somehow connected with Italian mafia?
I'm really interested in I don't want to provoke/insult anyone...
Culture and mentality firstly. Secondly its a problem of poverty, which in turn fuels the first problem, only to magnify the second and so it goes on and on and on. Whole familys have been wiped out, only women are left.
Wrong
04-30-2018, 10:34 PM
Edi Rama is some sort of Med-Borreby. His cranium is incredibly Dolichocephalic. Also, very high-skulled.
https://alchetron.com/cdn/edi-rama-132c9bf8-24fe-4422-ad1b-74a99fd5725-resize-750.jpeg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/27/article-urn:publicid:ap.org:394c910ca8aa46198873195a1f8427 8f-6YqEtvSr6HSK2-74_634x412.jpg
He has typical Gheg highlander height. But, to be fair. Most Ghegs I see do not look like that facially.
lol ... bro relax he is like 2 meters tall.. that's not typical in any Albo region.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:34 PM
He has typical Gheg highlander height. But, to be fair. Most Ghegs I see do not look like that facially.
You want me to show you some?
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:35 PM
lol ... bro relax he is like 2 meters tall.. that's not typical in any Albo region.
Not in south lol, im almost 2 meters myself. And im a pure gheg albanian.
Wait , Illyrian warrior was banned ? :picard2:
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:37 PM
lol ... bro relax he is like 2 meters tall.. that's not typical in any Albo region.
Notice how I said highlander...the whole country is not highlander you know. I fall more within the central scope and I am average height.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:38 PM
You want me to show you some?
Wrong was right on the money. His head shape is not typical for Albanians. Show away. I am sure people can be selective with photos. I am merely talking about my personal face to face encounters.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:39 PM
I don't know or care if all of this is true. But two of these three statements are going to really set off some people on here. Just letting you know brotha. He is very tall though.
Unlike these kids who rarely venture outside their villages, i have proof to state my claim.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:40 PM
Wrong was right on the money. His head shape is not typical for Albanians. Show away. I am sure people can be selective with photos. I am merely talking about my personal face to face encounters.
No cherrypicking, i promise you. Just promise me a photo collection that is not cherry picked either. wait 5 min.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:40 PM
Unlike these kids who rarely venture outside their villages, i have proof to state my claim.
Calm your tits, brother. lol
Wrong
04-30-2018, 10:41 PM
Wrong was right on the money. His head shape is not typical for Albanians. Show away. I am sure people can be selective with photos. I am merely talking about my personal face to face encounters.
I'm Mesocephalic myself, not too typical for Albanian either, probably some Longskulled strain rather than Dinaric
All of my grandparents are from within that Albanian area in the map with lower CI
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5375&d=1322230725
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:42 PM
No cherrypicking, i promise you. Just promise me a photo collection that is not cherry picked either. wait 5 min.
I literally said "face to face encounters". I don't take a picture of all the Albanians I run into lol.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:42 PM
Wrong was right on the money. His head shape is not typical for Albanians. Show away. I am sure people can be selective with photos. I am merely talking about my personal face to face encounters.
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_0703.jpg
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_0700.jpg
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_0711.jpg
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American lady in the middle, not albo.
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_0726.jpg
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All albanians baby, northwestern ghegs, just like me, and paternally like Edi Rama.
Wrong
04-30-2018, 10:43 PM
I literally said "face to face encounters". I don't take a picture of all the Albanians I run into lol.
Trilecce is delusional as fuck, thinks all real Albanians are darkeyed and blackhaired, while blonds are Slavo-Goth remnants.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:45 PM
Wrong was right on the money. His head shape is not typical for Albanians. Show away. I am sure people can be selective with photos. I am merely talking about my personal face to face encounters.
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_0778.jpg
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_0787.jpg
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_0789.jpg
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Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:45 PM
I literally said "face to face encounters". I don't take a picture of all the Albanians I run into lol.
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/img_3312.jpg?w=1000
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/melina-haxhari-lr-39.jpg
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/1926102_720044528039828_2032770092_o.jpg?w=1000
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Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:46 PM
I literally said "face to face encounters". I don't take a picture of all the Albanians I run into lol.
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/img_5101.jpg
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/img_5103.jpg
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/img_5105.jpg
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Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:47 PM
I'm Mesocephalic myself, not too typical for Albanian either, probably some Longskulled strain rather than Dinaric
All of my grandparents are from within that Albanian area in the map with lower CI
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5375&d=1322230725
Yea, I don't have the typical Dinaric either. My nose is way too small lolol. I def look Albanian but some of my features are not typical.
https://s9.postimg.cc/rusnnn38f/hk1.jpg
https://s9.postimg.cc/68dn6mzj3/hk2.jpg
What are you trying to prove with those pictures?
Kelmendasi
04-30-2018, 10:47 PM
As for who ticked me off; there's 3 hotheaded fuckers on here trying to convince me for the nth time that I'm an Albanian, so tonight I will text a resume to my drug dealer and order a qeleshe to really show them.
And who are they? I know it's annoying and shit how some of the Albanians are calling Greeks Albanian but you really have become super anti-Albanian lol, I mean you call us "Alboscum" and say that we sell off our own family, where you got that from idk but meh. Not saying that you're in the wrong but this is just what I have noticed and I do get that it's in retaliation to the provocations done by Albanians.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:47 PM
I literally said "face to face encounters". I don't take a picture of all the Albanians I run into lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXRIcwOzH0M
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/img_7261.jpg?w=1000
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Wrong
04-30-2018, 10:48 PM
Yea, I don't have the typical Dinaric either. My nose is way too small lolol. I def look Albanian but some of my features are not typical.
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You have prominent jaw, wider than your cranium, unlike standard Albanian Dinarics. CM strain for sure.
Yea, I don't have the typical Dinaric either. My nose is way too small lolol. I def look Albanian but some of my features are not typical.
https://s9.pog.cc/rusnnn38f/hk1.jpg
https://s9.postimg.cc/6n6mzj3/hk2.jpg
Lol i know a dude from Berat he looks so muchhh like you. He is of coban origing and really short tho.
Kelmendasi
04-30-2018, 10:49 PM
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/img_5101.jpg
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I wouldn't consider a number of these as typical
Wrong
04-30-2018, 10:49 PM
I wouldn't consider a number of these as typical
These people Trilecce posts have more Slavonic DNA than I have by leagues and yeah, they are not typical.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:49 PM
They don't look like Edi Rama...
If you thought I meant light hair and eyes I didn't. I mean facial depth. head structure etc.
I wouldn't consider a number of these as typical
lol thank god i'm not the only one.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:51 PM
Lol i know a dude from Berat he looks so muchhh like you. He is of coban origing and really short tho.
Funny you mention. There are Orthodox Koci in Berat(may or may not have relation). Bako Koci the Commi dude looks like a dopplganger of my uncle lol.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:51 PM
I wouldn't consider a number of these as typical
Well thats your problem, all of them are albanians from bjeshket e nemuna (prokletije)(accursed mountains). Meds are quite typical in this area you should know since you claim your from there to. No cherrypicking is done, do you want a random video of peole from here to prove it furthermore?
Wrong
04-30-2018, 10:52 PM
All albanians baby, northwestern ghegs, just like me, and paternally like Edi Rama.
More like inbred Slavo-Albanian mixes. A good number of these have eyes pointing at different directions.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:52 PM
You have prominent jaw, wider than your cranium, unlike standard Albanian Dinarics. CM strain for sure.
I do score high CM. My grandfather has the same Jaw depth. Is CM common in Diber?
Funny you mention. There are Orthodox Koci in Berat(may or may not have relation). Bako Koci the Commi dude looks like a dopplganger of my uncle lol.
Half of Berat is Orthodox. And yes he is also an Orthodox.
Well thats your problem, all of them are albanians from bjeshket e nemuna (prokletije)(accursed mountains). Meds are quite typical in this area you should know since you claim your from there to. No cherrypicking is done, do you want a random video of peole from here to prove it furthermore?
They don't look med to me lol
Wrong
04-30-2018, 10:53 PM
I do score high CM. My grandfather has the same Jaw depth. Is CM common in Diber?
Not as common in Dibra i Madhe, though they do exist.
I'm paternally 1/2 Dibra i Madhe & 1/2 Ohër, maternally eastern Kosovo.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:54 PM
These people Trilecce posts have more Slavonic DNA than I have by leagues and yeah, they are not typical.
They do look like Albanian-Montenegrins. Like Plav-Guci, Ulqinaks a bit. I could be wrong though. Most Albanians I see on a regular basis are either Dibrans or people from Kosova lol.
Kelmendasi
04-30-2018, 10:54 PM
Well thats your problem, all of them are albanians from bjeshket e nemuna (prokletije)(accursed mountains). Meds are quite typical in this area you should know since you claim your from there to. No cherrypicking is done, do you want a random video of peole from here to prove it furthermore?
Man, those just don't strike me as being uber Albanian or Gheg. Most people NW Albania are Dinarid in appearance. The previous images you posted had a lot more typical looking people than the pictures I quoted.
Wrong
04-30-2018, 10:57 PM
Man, those just don't strike me as being uber Albanian or Gheg. Most people NW Albania are Dinarid in appearance. The previous images you posted had a lot more typical looking people than the pictures I quoted.
The Albanians on TA are more Gheg-looking than them.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:57 PM
Not as common in Dibra i Madhe, though they do exist.
I'm paternally 1/2 Dibra i Madhe & 1/2 Ohër, maternally eastern Kosovo.
Interesting. Maybe its more a Diber Vogel thing? or are our phenotypes consistent between both Dibers?
My mom is from Puka, but she takes after her father in looks who takes from his mother, who was supposedly Montenegrin from Hoti or Gruda. I forget which she mentioned. Her mom is from Shkoder originally but born in Shtimje.
nightrider+
04-30-2018, 10:57 PM
Nah, his father is a Catholic Gheg from Durres and mother is an Orthodox Tosk from a village of VloreGood, only Christian Albanians can save this country. He should start with a rapid and violent demuslimization.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:58 PM
Man, those just don't strike me as being uber Albanian or Gheg. Most people NW Albania are Dinarid in appearance. The previous images you posted had a lot more typical looking people than the pictures I quoted.
My Skepi cousins from Diber are the epitome of Dinaric. I know exactly what you mean.
Kelmendasi
04-30-2018, 10:58 PM
Good, only Christian Albanians can save this country. He should start with a rapid and violent demuslimization.
It's not needed. The vast majority of Albanians are irreligious
Dibran
04-30-2018, 10:59 PM
Good, only Christian Albanians can save this country. He should start with a rapid and violent demuslimization.
Albanians are not given to radicalization like yourselves. We're a bit more progressive than that.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 10:59 PM
I wouldn't consider a number of these as typical
Before our women became monkeys of whore-culture, their natural hair colour showed much more clearly what they were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFi5RXeqd1I
nightrider+
04-30-2018, 10:59 PM
It's not needed. The vast majority of Albanians are irreligiousEven worse. As I said before, partly explains the lack of remorse.
Wrong
04-30-2018, 10:59 PM
Interesting. Maybe its more a Diber Vogel thing? or are our phenotypes consistent between both Dibers?
My mom is from Puka, but she takes after her father in looks who takes from his mother, who was supposedly Montenegrin from Hoti or Gruda. I forget which she mentioned. Her mom is from Shkoder originally but born in Shtimje.
Definitely, although there should be an overlap with slight natural variations. Coon did point out a Nordic strain in both of the Dibras in the TROE, dating back to the Indo-Europeans.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:00 PM
Good, only Christian Albanians can save this country. He should start with a rapid and violent demuslimization.
Slowly slowly, no one eats a horse with one bite.
Slowly slowly, no one eats a horse with one bite.
lol wtf stop eating horses...
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:01 PM
They do look like Albanian-Montenegrins. Like Plav-Guci, Ulqinaks a bit. I could be wrong though. Most Albanians I see on a regular basis are either Dibrans or people from Kosova lol.
Slav? lol dude...
Kelmendasi
04-30-2018, 11:01 PM
Before our women became monkeys of whore-culture, their natural hair colour showed much more clearly what they were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFi5RXeqd1I
For me it isn't pigmentation which made me say that but facial features
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:02 PM
Slowly slowly, no one eats a horse with one bite.
Not only do you post non Gheg looking examples but you support his drivel.
Even worse. As I said before, partly explains the lack of remorse.
Fun fact , the most religious Albos are the Christian ones , either Orthodox or Catholic.
The muslim ones simply don't give a fuck.
Dukagjini
04-30-2018, 11:03 PM
They do look like Albanian-Montenegrins. Like Plav-Guci, Ulqinaks a bit. I could be wrong though. Most Albanians I see on a regular basis are either Dibrans or people from Kosova lol.
Aren't Montenegro Albs northwestern shifted on the plot scale tho? I made a thread on this before and it turns out there isn't much east euro admix in monte albs.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:03 PM
Definitely, although there should be an overlap with slight natural variations. Coon did point out a Nordic strain in both of the Dibras in the TROE, dating back to the Indo-Europeans.
Interesting. I never knew that. Think some could be from the Norse invasion that were defeated in Diber by Venetian Albania? Maybe some stuck around?
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:03 PM
For me it isn't pigmentation which made me say that but facial features
Tell me what you think about the girl on 12 minutes in that video.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:03 PM
Aren't Montenegro Albs northwestern shifted on the plot scale tho? I made a thread on this before and it turns out there isn't much east euro admix in monte albs.
Sometimes phenotype is not complimentary to admixture. I could be wrong.
nightrider+
04-30-2018, 11:04 PM
Fun fact , the most religious Albos are the Christian ones , either Orthodox or Catholic.
The muslim ones simply don't give a fuck.It's to be expected. The muslims are the ones who were bought by the Ottomans after all.
Wrong
04-30-2018, 11:05 PM
Interesting. I never knew that. Think some could be from the Norse invasion that were defeated in Diber by Venetian Albania? Maybe some stuck around?
There is an old church in the western mountainslopes of FYROM close to Dibra that was "accidentally" lit on fire, containing tonnes of documentation on Albanians, especially with the movements of the dark ages and onwards.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:06 PM
Aren't Montenegro Albs northwestern shifted on the plot scale tho? I made a thread on this before and it turns out there isn't much east euro admix in monte albs.
Prokletije albanians are the best preserved ancient population on the Balkan peninsula.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:06 PM
Fun fact , the most religious Albos are the Christian ones , either Orthodox or Catholic.
The muslim ones simply don't give a fuck.
Even religious Albanians are not fanatic. These people base their whole existence and identity on their religion. Thats why they deported archaic Greek speaking Muslims to the black sea coast of Turkey. Pathetic isn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcAYP4irSyQ
It's to be expected. The muslims are the ones who were bought by the Ottomans after all.
You need to get better at trolling bruh...too obvious.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:07 PM
There is an old church in the western mountainslopes of FYROM close to Dibra that was "accidentally" lit on fire, containing tonnes of documentation on Albanians, especially with the movements of the dark ages and onwards.
Lol. its always an "accident" haha. Shame. Would be great to read them.
Kouros
04-30-2018, 11:07 PM
stay on topic niggers
me --> :machine gun: :bleedingeyes: <-- albanian drug dealer that called me albanian
There is an old church in the western mountainslopes of FYROM close to Dibra that was "accidentally" lit on fire, containing tonnes of documentation on Albanians, especially with the movements of the dark ages and onwards.
Need more info on that.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:08 PM
Not only do you post non Gheg looking examples but you support his drivel.
Dibran, tells me what a gheg is... Dude i am from this place myself.
stay on topic niggers
me --> :machine gun: :bleedingeyes: <-- albanian drug dealer that called me albanian
You have no chance against Albos in the real world , keep playing tough here gjorgo.
Wrong
04-30-2018, 11:08 PM
Lol. its always an "accident" haha. Shame. Would be great to read them.
Yeah. Churches and monasteries are great sources of historical documents.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:11 PM
Dibran, tells me what a gheg is... Dude i am from this place myself.
Diber always stood up. Don't question our Albanianness. While you support his religio-extremity, Dibrans were dying for every Albanian.
Kelmendasi
04-30-2018, 11:11 PM
Tell me what you think about the girl on 12 minutes in that video.
The guy says that she's Ofra Haza who in fact is from Israel, anyways even if she was not the Ofra Haza i'm thinking of then she still don't look typical imo
Voskos
04-30-2018, 11:12 PM
Even religious Albanians are not fanatic. These people base their whole existence and identity on their religion. Thats why they deported archaic Greek speaking Muslims to the black sea coast of Turkey. Pathetic isn't it?
What? our Christians here were hanged on trees by their ''brother'' convert Greeks(who became turks) in the same places where i now drink coffee with my pals downtown, next to the old mosque. not every country is isolated and protected like albania my friend.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:12 PM
Yeah. Churches and monasteries are great sources of historical documents.
It's funny how our Churches are always burned by so called good neighborly "Christians".
nightrider+
04-30-2018, 11:14 PM
Even religious Albanians are not fanatic. These people base their whole existence and identity on their religion. Thats why they deported archaic Greek speaking Muslims to the black sea coast of Turkey. Pathetic isn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcAYP4irSyQDude, religion is culture and way of life. Hellenes died for Hellenism, not because they were blonder than the Persian. Keeping a country culturally homogneous is not a crime despite what every retarded Albanian on here will tell you.
Stay progressive and the shithole of Europe. We 're getting there too anyway, modern Greece isn't even Christian.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:14 PM
What? Christians here were hanged on trees by their ''brother'' convert Greeks in the same places where i now drink coffee with my pals downtown, next to the old mosque. not every country is isolated and protected like albania my friend.
I suppose we all didn't have that luxury. I imagine given the lowlands that indoctrination in extremity was more common. Maybe thats why highlanders don't go overboard with religion?
How are Greek mountaineers on the matter?
What? our Christians here were hanged on trees by their ''brother'' convert Greeks(who became turks) in the same places where i now drink coffee with my pals downtown, next to the old mosque. not every country is isolated and protected like albania my friend.
Albo Christians call themselves Greek now.
ÁGUIA
04-30-2018, 11:15 PM
https://albajon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_0827.jpg
OMG Boob touch ... well, he can always blame the strabismus.
bad joke
Your fellow Albanians in those pictures look cool/happy. So it's all good.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:16 PM
Dude, religion is culture and way of life. Hellenes died for Hellenism, not because they were blonder than the Persian. Keeping a country culturally homogneous is not a crime despite what every retarded Albanian on here will tell you.
Stay progressive and the shithole of Europe. We 're getting there too anyway, modern Greece isn't even Christian.
The thing is, Albanians have a different concept of culture. It's rooted in our customs since before we picked religions. Even with religion Albanians are not given to extremes. My grandfather always told me religion is personal and you leave it at home when you step our your door. Outside we're all Albanian. Albanian judge actions not beliefs. This is why we don't kill eachother over dogma. Even the west understand this concept via separation of church and state.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:17 PM
The guy says that she's Ofra Haza who in fact is from Israel, anyways even if she was not the Ofra Haza i'm thinking of then she still don't look typical imo
lol dude...
Here, she speaks albanian. Keep watching the video, maybe you will know what ghegs look like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtJjiK8GG1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEg2gE6BSyg
nightrider+
04-30-2018, 11:20 PM
The thing is, Albanians have a different concept of culture. It's rooted in our customs since before we picked religions. Even with religion Albanians are not given to extremes. My grandfather always told me religion is personal and you leave it at home when you step our your door. Outside we're all Albanian. Albanian judge actions not beliefs. This is why we don't kill eachother over dogma. Even the west understand this concept via separation of church and state.Strong cultures breed strong countries. Albanians are far from perfect, light years away in fact.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:23 PM
Strong cultures breed strong countries. Albanians are far from perfect, light years away in fact.
You literally addressed none of what I said. I never said Albanians were perfect. Perfection is a sum of all its parts. No country fits that bill. We may be light years away in other categories but when it comes to religion we're not stuck in the dark ages like our neighbors dividing into new ethno-linguistic identities over religious affiliations.
nightrider+
04-30-2018, 11:26 PM
You literally addressed none of what I said. I never said Albanians were perfect. Perfection is a sum of all its parts. No country fits that bill. We may be light years away in other categories but when it comes to religion we're not stuck in the dark ages like our neighbors dividing into new ethno-linguistic identities over religious affiliations.I did adress everything actually, it's up to you to understand. Orhtodoxy bred the longest running empire in the most strategically fucked up place you can imagine.
What did Albanianism breed, the crime capital yet poorest country in Europe?
Voskos
04-30-2018, 11:30 PM
I suppose we all didn't have that luxury. I imagine given the lowlands that indoctrination in extremity was more common. Maybe thats why highlanders don't go overboard with religion?
How are Greek mountaineers on the matter?
Depends on the region. Generally the villages were mostly christian with the cities being Turkish, though when the villages rebelled they got pillaged by ottoman army and totally emptied(population chased away to other places or slaughtered).
Maybe thats why highlanders don't go overboard with religion?
most likely. also albania had no real turkish administration to cultivate turkish national consciousness like in some other places.large parts of your lands were semi-independent.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:31 PM
Depends on the region. Generally the villages were mostly christian with the cities being Turkish, though when the villages rebelled they got pillaged by ottoman army and totally emptied(population chased away to other places or slaughtered).
most likely. also albania had no real turkish administration to cultivate turkish national consciousness like in some other places.large parts of your lands were semi-independent.
True, that could explain it.
Dibran
04-30-2018, 11:34 PM
I did adress everything actually, it's up to you to understand. Orhtodoxy bred the longest running empire in the most strategically fucked up place you can imagine.
What did Albanianism breed, the crime capital yet poorest country in Europe?
You're trying to equate political and economic stability with that of culture. Clearly don't know what you're speaking about. Just look at Albanians who were born and raised in middle class economically stable families in developed countries. These detriments don't exist. Of course Albanians who emigrate, are dirt poor, alone, or living in its borders doing questionable things.
Albanians in Albania may be selling drugs, but at least they are trying to put it back in the community. Not much can be said for the government which continues to rob them.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:34 PM
Depends on the region. Generally the villages were mostly christian with the cities being Turkish, though when the villages rebelled they got pillaged by ottoman army and totally emptied(population chased away to other places or slaughtered).
most likely. also albania had no real turkish administration to cultivate turkish national consciousness like in some other places.large parts of your lands were semi-independent.
Your quite knowledgeable.
In ottoman times, it was fobidden to speak any other language than turkish in the cities.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:39 PM
I did adress everything actually, it's up to you to understand. Orhtodoxy bred the longest running empire in the most strategically fucked up place you can imagine.
What did Albanianism breed, the crime capital yet poorest country in Europe?
We are a small people who survived against all odds in the balkans, we have retained enough of our independance to neither be latinized like the Romanians, or slavicized like montenegrins, or even hellenized. Imagine what motherfuckers of a people we must have been to hav withstood these great great forces of history. And this we did without any government or religious organization. I wonder if there would be a greek left in this world if the church did not carry your language and history.
nightrider+
04-30-2018, 11:40 PM
You're trying to equate political and economic stability with that of culture. Clearly don't know what you're speaking about. Just look at Albanians who were born and raised in middle class economically stable families in developed countries. These detriments don't exist. Of course Albanians who emigrate, are dirt poor, alone, or living in its borders doing questionable things.
Albanians in Albania may be selling drugs, but at least they are trying to put it back in the community. Not much can be said for the government which continues to rob them.Because Albanians have little that tie them together. Language is not enough, it's just a tool for communication.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:42 PM
Because Albanians have little that tie them together. Language is not enough, it's just a tool for communication.
Albanians have no one but themselves. We are a very unique and culturally homogenous people.
dperucca
04-30-2018, 11:43 PM
You're trying to equate political and economic stability with that of culture. Clearly don't know what you're speaking about. Just look at Albanians who were born and raised in middle class economically stable families in developed countries. These detriments don't exist. Of course Albanians who emigrate, are dirt poor, alone, or living in its borders doing questionable things.
Albanians in Albania may be selling drugs, but at least they are trying to put it back in the community. Not much can be said for the government which continues to rob them.
Drug use is not exclusive to any particular culture or class. When life sucks some people turn to drugs and alcohol.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:45 PM
Drug use is not exclusive to any particular culture or class. When life sucks some people turn to drugs and alcohol.
Alcohol is a socially accepted drug. There is morally no real difference between a distillery and a marijuana farm.
dperucca
04-30-2018, 11:49 PM
Alcohol is a socially accepted drug. There is morally no real difference between a distillery and a marijuana farm.
I agree. Marijuana is not as bad for you but it is considered a "drug".
nightrider+
04-30-2018, 11:50 PM
Albanians have no one but themselves. We are a very unique and culturally homogenous people.Ancient Greece was unique, Rennaisance Florence and Victorian England were. Albania isn't.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:54 PM
I agree. Marijuana is not as bad for you but it is considered a "drug".
Weed isnt good in any way, i personally could easily live without any of them. But what is funny is that these people come down on us albanians for being morally inferior because we grow and sell weed, when thousands of distillerys in their countries push a far worse drug into the mouths of their own people.
Have you ever seen an alcoholic trying to fight the abstinence from alcohol? Its comparable to the problems of a heroin addict.
Trilecce
04-30-2018, 11:59 PM
Ancient Greece was unique, Rennaisance Florence and Victorian England were. Albania isn't.
The word you are looking for is cultured. Yes we are unique, but cultured, maybe not.
dperucca
05-01-2018, 12:00 AM
Weed isnt good in any way, i personally could easily live without any of them. But what is funny is that these people come down on us for being morally inferior, when thousands of distillerys in their countries push a far worse drug into the mouths of their people.
Weed has well documented medicinal properties. It is objectively true.
Trilecce
05-01-2018, 12:03 AM
Weed has well documented medicinal properties. It is objectively true.
Isolate that substance, and make medicine out of it (which has already been done btw). Weedsmoking robs you of your personality, of clear thought. Many people who have schizophrenia get their psychosis triggered by weed, also paranoia is a very very common side effect of long term weed usage.
Moje ime
05-01-2018, 11:35 AM
Does anybody know where are roots of organized crime in Albania?
Why Albania?
When in happened?
Is it somehow connected with Italian mafia?
I'm really interested in I don't want to provoke/insult anyone...
Because of tribal structure of society. I'm surprised nobody mentioned that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_of_Albania
Because every mafia organization has similar structure by which functioning. But Albanians have that already integrated in their society.
What is that means?
- That means that tribal law is above any society/state law. One of reasons why Albanians never could live in multietnic society like Kosovo.
- That means no member of clan is allowed to speak or think differently or he can be banned from clan.
What that implies?
- As in every authoritarian structure not controlled by outside law it is expected that most sociopathic individuals come to best positions. That implies that this kind of individuals will be able to do any jobs that are considered unethical in modern society without fear to be criticized because of tribal structure already described.
Mix that with poor country situation, you get the consequences we speak about.
It is enough to see how Albanians here are aggressive to conclude that they don't respect any civilized law and culture of communication but only tribal law of violence.
Because of tribal structure of society. I'm surprised nobody mentioned that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_of_Albania
Because every mafia organization has similar structure by which functioning. But Albanians have that already integrated in their society.
What is that means?
- That means that tribal law is above any society/state law. One of reasons why Albanians never could live in multietnic society like Kosovo.
- That means no member of clan is allowed to speak or think differently or he can be banned from clan.
What that implies?
- As in every authoritarian structure not controlled by outside law it is expected that most sociopathic individuals come to best positions. That implies that this kind of individuals will be able to do any jobs that are considered unethical in modern society without fear to be criticized because of tribal structure already described.
Mix that with poor country situation, you get the consequences we speak about.
It is enough to see how Albanians here are aggressive to conclude that they don't respect any civilized law and culture of communication but only tribal law of violence.
You should take your pills lady. Chop chop
Dibran
05-01-2018, 12:38 PM
Isolate that substance, and make medicine out of it (which has already been done btw). Weedsmoking robs you of your personality, of clear thought. Many people who have schizophrenia get their psychosis triggered by weed, also paranoia is a very very common side effect of long term weed usage.
I can testify that that is pure bullshit. I think the plant created by God in its natural form is far more beneficial than chemically altered man made bastardizations. It is like anything else. Depends on use and application. Vaporizing and or using it in oil form or ingesting it(when prepared properly) is far more beneficial than smoking it. Even then, no one has died from it in the history of existence. It's also bs that you don't think clearly. Thats more from inhaling too much smoke via combustion. Doesn't matter what substance you're consuming. If its administered as I stated its nothing but pure benefits. My own sister struggles with Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis. She was on 20 different medications which she stopped 90 percent of them ever since she started getting medical prescribed oils.
People have actually had side effects from the chemically manufactured pharmaceutical version of the substance.
I have also used Cannabis(not weed, a propagandized term named after a mexican narcotic used to spread propaganda in the USA) for years. I don't have paranoia at all. I also have GAD and it takes care of it just fine. But according to your state learned reasoning I should be on anti-depressants and risk committing suicide while on or off the substance as one of its many side effects. Happy Hungry and Sleepy are "side effects" I can do with. Some of the top athletes and scientists(Carl Sagan) used it regularly. It enhances whatever qualities you already possess. So bs like laziness and this or that are all qualities of the person that are just enhanced by the substance.
Tell Olympic Swimmer Phelps that its bad for him. He'll laugh in your face.
Meanwhile pharmaceutical companies are prescribing "child" form of Amphetamines to kids, which is pretty much crystal meth. These people care nothing about people other than profit. They won't legalize anything that jeopardize their business.
Dibran
05-01-2018, 12:40 PM
Because of tribal structure of society. I'm surprised nobody mentioned that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_of_Albania
Because every mafia organization has similar structure by which functioning. But Albanians have that already integrated in their society.
What is that means?
- That means that tribal law is above any society/state law. One of reasons why Albanians never could live in multietnic society like Kosovo.
- That means no member of clan is allowed to speak or think differently or he can be banned from clan.
What that implies?
- As in every authoritarian structure not controlled by outside law it is expected that most sociopathic individuals come to best positions. That implies that this kind of individuals will be able to do any jobs that are considered unethical in modern society without fear to be criticized because of tribal structure already described.
Mix that with poor country situation, you get the consequences we speak about.
It is enough to see how Albanians here are aggressive to conclude that they don't respect any civilized law and culture of communication but only tribal law of violence.
Il take self governance over blind obedience to government institutions any day. Another reason Albanians don't commit genocide like you. We don't follow orders like a trained dog.
Moje ime
05-01-2018, 01:09 PM
Il take self governance over blind obedience to government institutions any day. Another reason Albanians don't commit genocide like you. We don't follow orders like a trained dog.
While Albanian mafia had been "smarter" to use killed Serbs organs for organ trafficking (Yellow house case).
Don't change subject.
Thing is that Albanians need to learn self-criticism. Serbs already know that.
There was some quote from a Serbian writter that you liked to post around the forum, laughing over that.
But you don't understand that it is our advantage. You don't understand that knowledge of self-critique
makes one society more civilized.
Dibran
05-01-2018, 01:14 PM
While Albanian mafia had been "smarter" to use killed Serbs organs for organ trafficking (Yellow house case).
Don't change subject.
Thing is that Albanians need to learn self-criticism. Serbs already know that.
There was some quote from a Serbian writter that you liked to post around the forum, laughing over that.
But you don't understand that it is our advantage. You don't understand that knowledge of self-critique
makes one society more civilized.
You never criticize yourselves. Serbs are always innocent. All the dead in their wake are cgi effects. its all one big hocus pocus.
On the other hand Albanians crimes are restricted to non political entities. Albanian Mafia is a joke you idiot. They only have a strong footing in New York.
The quote I posted and laughed about was Serbs saying lying is in their blood and that they take pride in lying. I don't see how dishonesty is a product of the civilized. Fool.
Moje ime
05-01-2018, 01:24 PM
You never criticize yourselves. Serbs are always innocent.
Serbian President Apologises for War Crimes (Tomislav Nikolic)
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/serbia-s-nikolic-apologised-for-srebrenica-war-crime
An Apology for Srebrenica
(Boris Tadic)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303695604575182284149946008
How many more apologies is needed? When you will apology for anything?
Dibran
05-01-2018, 01:29 PM
Serbian President Apologises for War Crimes (Tomislav Nikolic)
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/serbia-s-nikolic-apologised-for-srebrenica-war-crime
An Apology for Srebrenica
(Boris Tadic)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303695604575182284149946008
How many more apologies is needed? When you will apology for anything?
You need to pay alot more than just a sorry from the lips. While your leaders "apologize", Serbian rejects like yourselves are crying lies to your crimes as a nation all over the forums.
Moje ime
05-01-2018, 01:33 PM
You need to pay alot more than just a sorry from the lips. While your leaders "apologize", Serbian rejects like yourselves are crying lies to your crimes as a nation all over the forums.
I'm telling the true and fight against Albanian lies. This forum needs refreshing.
Dibran
05-01-2018, 02:22 PM
I'm telling the true and fight against Albanian lies. This forum needs refreshing.
Maybe Serbian schools don't teach English. So, I will give the benefit of the doubt. If you wan't anyone to take you seriously, try not seeming grammatically inept or completely dyslexic.
Moje ime
05-01-2018, 03:33 PM
Maybe Serbian schools don't teach English. So, I will give the benefit of the doubt. If you wan't anyone to take you seriously, try not seeming grammatically inept or completely dyslexic.
Is that all you had to say on this subject?
Serbian schools do teach English, and there are probably lot of Serbs who speak English better then I even on this forum.
Trilecce
05-01-2018, 11:10 PM
I can testify that that is pure bullshit. I think the plant created by God in its natural form is far more beneficial than chemically altered man made bastardizations. It is like anything else. Depends on use and application. Vaporizing and or using it in oil form or ingesting it(when prepared properly) is far more beneficial than smoking it. Even then, no one has died from it in the history of existence. It's also bs that you don't think clearly. Thats more from inhaling too much smoke via combustion. Doesn't matter what substance you're consuming. If its administered as I stated its nothing but pure benefits. My own sister struggles with Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis. She was on 20 different medications which she stopped 90 percent of them ever since she started getting medical prescribed oils.
People have actually had side effects from the chemically manufactured pharmaceutical version of the substance.
I have also used Cannabis(not weed, a propagandized term named after a mexican narcotic used to spread propaganda in the USA) for years. I don't have paranoia at all. I also have GAD and it takes care of it just fine. But according to your state learned reasoning I should be on anti-depressants and risk committing suicide while on or off the substance as one of its many side effects. Happy Hungry and Sleepy are "side effects" I can do with. Some of the top athletes and scientists(Carl Sagan) used it regularly. It enhances whatever qualities you already possess. So bs like laziness and this or that are all qualities of the person that are just enhanced by the substance.
Tell Olympic Swimmer Phelps that its bad for him. He'll laugh in your face.
Meanwhile pharmaceutical companies are prescribing "child" form of Amphetamines to kids, which is pretty much crystal meth. These people care nothing about people other than profit. They won't legalize anything that jeopardize their business.
God made snake venom, you should drink it, and not isolate the substance in order to make an antidote. This is your argument.
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