could he pass in ancient greece???

[grecoroman]

https://s9.postimg.cc/de19ebfhb/222.png

[frdfgcg]

He can pass as modern Italian only.

[Aspar]

He can pass as Egyptian pharaoh or Assyrian king!

[grecoroman]

He can pass as modern Italian only.

why??

[grecoroman]

He can pass as Egyptian pharaoh or Assyrian king!

egyptian phenotype

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/20/cb/55/20cb55173af4bdaeda82e27f6173c8e6.jpg

[frdfgcg]

why??

Because he is untermensch.

[grecoroman]

Because he is untermensch.

you said he could only pass as modern italians but the fact is he is italian

[frdfgcg]

Ancient Greeks were Aryans.

[grecoroman]

Ancient Greeks were Aryans.

what is aryans???

[Vožd]

Can he pass as Roman?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Mehmed_Bazderevic.jpg/266px-Mehmed_Bazderevic.jpg

[Ajeje Brazorf]

what is aryans???

Basically according to their fantasy ancient Romans and Greeks were all blonde and blue eyed (this is what Aryan has come to mean since the 19th century).

[Columella]

He can pass in the barber shop and get a real haircut.

[Sikeliot]

He doesn't look Greek to me (neither ancient nor modern).

I associate both his look and style with Neapolitans.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

He doesn't look Greek to me (neither ancient nor modern).

I associate both his look and style with Neapolitans.

The point is that this thread is meaningless, we have very few frescos or paintings from ancient Greece so we can not say if a person "could pass in ancient Greece". Before opening threads like this, we should travel in time and take pictures of the Greeks. A feature that is often associated with Greek statues (a symbol of beauty but not necessarily a common trait) is the straight nose.

[grecoroman]

He doesn't look Greek to me (neither ancient nor modern).

I associate both his look and style with Neapolitans.

Bingo hé is Napolitan but Napoli was first settled by hellenes from rhodes

[Decius]

Sure.

[frdfgcg]

He could pass in ancient Greece only as slav. Greeks were Aryans, slavs were not white like this Italian.

[Voskos]

Yes. As ancient greek from islands.

[Sikeliot]

Bingo hé is Napolitan but Napoli was first settled by hellenes from rhodes

He might fit in Rhodes but not in places like Epirus or Thessaly as well.

[Sikeliot]

Yes. As ancient greek from islands.

What about Crete?

[Voskos]

He could pass in ancient Greece only as slav. Greeks were Aryans, slavs were not white like this Italian.

What? Greeks are not aryans! Aryans are from India-Central Asia-Ural.

[Voskos]

What about Crete?

Modern? Of course.

[Wrong]

He could pass in ancient Greece only as slav. Greeks were Aryans, slavs were not white like this Italian.
Aryans did not exist in Europe. It's a term coined in South Asia.

[Livin]

In modern greece yes,in ancient dont think so!!!
Only for slave xddd.!!!!!

[Ajeje Brazorf]

In modern greece yes,in ancient dont think so!!!
Only for slave xddd.!!!!!

In ancient Greece slaves were Greeks themselves.

[Livin]

In ancient Greece slaves were Greeks themselves.

Not always!!!
They have native anatolians and egyptians also...!!!!

[Sikeliot]

Of course he could pass in Ancient Greece and beyond. All this idiotic belief that Greeks were fair and Nordic is the result of 200 years of Anglo Germanic Pseudo Science starting in 1830s.


They were not Nordic, but not MENA either. The man in this photo looks Middle Eastern.

[Bosniensis]

Can he pass as Roman?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Mehmed_Bazderevic.jpg/266px-Mehmed_Bazderevic.jpg

Romans were Dinarids, Atlanto-Med's, Meds. etc.

So obviously he can.

Claudius Gothicus is typical Western Balkan guy that has similarities with Bazdarevic

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9v7_3Zc8Dhk/UY06cptCm0I/AAAAAAAAAbI/_MBnBVc3l1M/s1600/Claudius+Gothicus.jpg

https://www.slavorum.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/gothicus.jpg

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Not always!!!
They have native anatolians and egyptians also...!!!!

"There was slave trade between kingdoms and states of the wider region. The fragmentary list of slaves confiscated from the property of the mutilators of the Hermai mentions 32 slaves whose origins have been ascertained: 13 came from Thrace, 7 from Caria, and the others came from Cappadocia, Scythia, Phrygia, Lydia, Syria, Ilyria, Macedon and Peloponnese. Local professionals sold their own people to Greek slave merchants. The principal centres of the slave trade appear to have been Ephesus, Byzantium, and even faraway Tanais at the mouth of the Don. Some "barbarian" slaves were victims of war or localised piracy, but others were sold by their parents. There is a lack of direct evidence of slave traffic, but corroborating evidence exists. Firstly, certain nationalities are consistently and significantly represented in the slave population, such as the corps of Scythian archers employed by Athens as a police force—originally 300, but eventually nearly a thousand. Secondly, the names given to slaves in the comedies often had a geographical link; thus Thratta, used by Aristophanes in The Wasps, The Acharnians, and Peace, simply signified Thracian woman. Finally, the nationality of a slave was a significant criterion for major purchasers; the ancient advice was not to concentrate too many slaves of the same origin in the same place, in order to limit the risk of revolt. It is also probable that, as with the Romans, certain nationalities were considered more productive as slaves than others."

[Teucer]

Depends. In the Peloponnese yes. Helots. Greek state of Macedonia also has 10,000s of Greek slaves captured in war. However most slaves were captured central Europeans. The Ancient Greeks were fascinated that their slaves had blonde hair. It was so common for a Greek slave to have blonde hair - the throw-away Athenian term for a slave was Xanthos (Blondie). One of the biggest slave markets was at Delos where many of these Central Europeans were bought and sold (the market was incredibly popular because the slaves were sold duty free):

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~rauhn/slave_market.jpg

Xanthos doesn't necessarily mean blonde, just lighter than the norm

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Most slaves were captured central Europeans. The Ancient Greeks were fascinated that their slaves had blonde hair. It was so common for a Greek slave to have blonde hair - the throw-away Athenian term for a slave was Xanthos (Blondie). One of the biggest slave markets was at Delos where many of these Central Europeans were bought and sold (the market was incredibly popular because the slaves were sold duty free):

There is no evidence of slaves coming from central Europe. The word ξανθός doesn't simply mean blond, it had many meanings and the ancients had a different way of perceiving colors. The definition of "blond" for a 500 BC Greek could be different from the modern one we have. Xanthos indicated various shades of colors, probably with a hint of red, brown, coppery, yellowish. In addition to the hair, it was also used for animals, rivers, wine, fragrances, cities. Aristophanes even used it for roast pigeons.

[nightrider+]

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[Ajeje Brazorf]

Xanthos doesn't necessarily mean blonde, just lighter than the norm

Exactly so, used for chestnut hair as well.

[Thracian]

He looks Napolitan.

[Teucer]

This is nonsense. One of the most famous exporters of slaves for example to Ancient Greece was the Ukrainian city of Olbia. The slaves were sourced from across the fertile Ukranian plains. Like the Leibniz Institute for Regional Geography - I also believe parts of Ukraine count as Central Europe.

As stated previously concerning Xanthos - when hair was concerned the default meaning was yellow or blonde. Greeks had seperate words for auburn and brown etc. However like in modern languages the word could be used in a slightly different but similar way concerning other nouns. For example in English we say cook the chicken until golden or he has golden locks (Blonde hair). It is not complicated why the slaves had these names and arguing it is astonishing. It is this type of bizarre conversation that you chose to battle - that gives pseudo scientists the room to manoeuvre when deciding what 'race' Greeks were.

They also referred to the colour of the sky as 'bronze'. Should we also take that literally?

[Starseed88]

I would say he can pass in Greece, Southern Italy, Turkey, Cyprus, Lebanon, Israel, Egypt and Iran. Plus, what’s his name and what country does he come from? Also, Hellenas has said Mr England Sonny Singh from my caste can pass as Greek do you agree? Plus, how common is Greek blogger Kosta William’s type found in Greece?

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110214/14/4d59a89417f87.jpg
https://www.famousbirthdays.com/faces/williams-kosta-image.jpg

[Ajeje Brazorf]

They also referred to the colour of the sky as 'bronze'. Should we also take that literally?

Should we also take Poseidon literally, described as having blue hair (kuanokhaĩta Poseidáōn)? Obviously not, ancient texts must be interpreted to be understood.

[Odin]

Nope.

[grecoroman]

This is nonsense. One of the most famous exporters of slaves for example to Ancient Greece was the Ukrainian city of Olbia. The slaves were sourced from across the fertile Ukranian plains. Like the Leibniz Institute for Regional Geography - I also believe parts of Ukraine count as Central Europe.

As stated previously concerning Xanthos - when hair was concerned the default meaning was yellow or blonde. Greeks had seperate words for auburn and brown etc. However like in modern languages the word could be used in a slightly different but similar way concerning other nouns. For example in English we say cook the chicken until golden or he has golden locks (Blonde hair). It is not complicated why the slaves had these names and arguing it is astonishing. It is this type of bizarre conversation that you chose to battle - that gives pseudo scientists the room to manoeuvre when deciding what 'race' Greeks were.

Olbia is in sardinia! Not ukraine

[grecoroman]

I think he could have passed in the islands. Like in the minoan civilization (crete)

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Olbia is in sardinia! Not ukraine

Lol it was Pontic Olbia (in Ukraine), not Sardinia. Those who answered yes or no to this thread have a time machine to know what the ancient Greeks looked like? Every single people has characteristic aspects that differentiate it from others.

[Starseed88]

Nope.

Hi Odin,

How do you know what the ancient Greeks looked like and do you have a time machine or something? Plus, I would say he can pass, but would be atypical and would pass better in West Asia. Plus, how common is Dimitri Alexandrou look in Greece and some on here said could I pass in Greece and I’m sure I would be atypical?

https://imageresize.org/api/v1/images/1466a4d6-4b24-4177-af08-eabd781b4dd9?contentDispositionFilename=59DF38BF-B6A1-48C9-9CEA-065BD8E3C9CD

https://imageresize.org/api/v1/images/bfd72236-fb87-42dd-bc1b-27dbb41ff314?contentDispositionFilename=2D649FA9-10B1-4625-BE9F-92E0F44EB6B8

https://www196.lunapic.com/editor/saveas.php?8068777807

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

I would say he can pass in Greece, Southern Italy, Turkey, Cyprus, Lebanon, Israel, Egypt and Iran. Plus, what’s his name and what country does he come from? Also, Hellenas has said Mr England Sonny Singh from my caste can pass as Greek do you agree? Plus, how common is Greek blogger Kosta William’s type found in Greece?

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110214/14/4d59a89417f87.jpg
https://www.famousbirthdays.com/faces/williams-kosta-image.jpg

Now that we alredy taking other people in to acount, how aboutthis guy?


Federico Pizarro (born 7 September 1986) is an Argentine handball player.

http://agenciasanluis.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/DSC_8493-630x420.jpg
https://scontent-amt2-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/012310438cc9e2bde328ee4c2e29c3e5/5B5F75E1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/c0.133.1065.1065/30605520_360411661118233_2352312961923547136_n.jpg
https://scontent-amt2-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/5946418ad8ef56c3602990f86b2700f2/5B7DFCAC/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/c1.0.1077.1077/30590895_197003057755756_829416291470147584_n.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKomSRYm3EM

[nightrider+]

Now that we alredy taking other people in to acount, how aboutthis guy?

Looks very Cretan so yeah, more of a Minoan phenotype though.

[Odin]

How do you know what the ancient Greeks looked like and do you have a time machine or something?

Actually, Proto-Greeks were similar to Slavs in terms of appearance, but Greeks have remained by and large the same Neolithic farmers that they were prior to Indo-Europeanization.

https://i.imgur.com/srmwoCI.png


Plus, how common is Dimitri Alexandrou look in Greece and some on here said could I pass in Greece and I’m sure I would be atypical?

Dimitri can pass, but I don't think you can pass.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Actually, Proto-Greeks were similar to Slavs in terms of appearance, but Greeks have remained by and large the same Neolithic farmers that they were prior to Indo-Europeanization.

You got that image from the funny thread "Why did Ancient Greeks look Slavic?". Basing the appearance of the ancient Greeks on idealized statues (which didn't even look Slavic) is madness, considering that these have changed characteristics over time and the archaic sculptures for example were inspired in part by the Egyptian and Mesopotamian ones. Modern Greeks are very different than the Neolithic Greeks. The Mycenaeans in the PCA came out as half Sicilian half Sardinians, and if you add further Indo-European mixture, they would become like the modern Greeks.

[Starseed88]

Actually, Proto-Greeks were similar to Slavs in terms of appearance, but Greeks have remained by and large the same Neolithic farmers that they were prior to Indo-Europeanization.

https://i.imgur.com/srmwoCI.png



Dimitri can pass, but I don't think you can pass.

Hi Odin,

I don’t agree with you and neither do the other Southern Europeans posting on this page saying the ancient Greeks looked Slavic. Plus, I agree with you that I wouldn’t pass, but I believe I could pass as atypical because that’s what many have said.

https://imageresize.org/api/v1/images/1466a4d6-4b24-4177-af08-eabd781b4dd9?contentDispositionFilename=59DF38BF-B6A1-48C9-9CEA-065BD8E3C9CD

https://imageresize.org/api/v1/images/bfd72236-fb87-42dd-bc1b-27dbb41ff314?contentDispositionFilename=2D649FA9-10B1-4625-BE9F-92E0F44EB6B8

https://www196.lunapic.com/editor/saveas.php?8068777807

[Odin]

You got that image from the funny thread "Why did Ancient Greeks look Slavic?". Basing the appearance of the ancient Greeks on idealized statues (which didn't even look Slavic) is madness, considering that these have changed characteristics over time and the archaic sculptures for example were inspired in part by the Egyptian and Mesopotamian ones.

I just used that image to answer his troll question, and no, I don't believe that ancient Greeks looked like Slavs.


Modern Greeks are very different than the Neolithic Greeks.

Speaking of phenotypes, I think ancient Greeks looked the same as modern Greeks.


I don’t agree with you and neither do the other Southern Europeans posting on this page saying the ancient Greeks looked Slavic.

I was just messing with you dude.

[TheMaestro]

Thoose brows, someone loves tweezers