Genetically, Mortimer is Whiter than Sicilians, Jews, or Greek Islanders

[Bobby Martnen]

I don't know why so many people on this forum like to give him shit about not being White, or saying he looks "Indian".

Genetically, he's ~70% White, which is more than Sicilians, Greek Islanders, and Jews, who range from 45-60% White.

So if they're White, then so is he.

[Heather Duval]

https://i.imgur.com/HsgOFFP.jpg

[Marmara]

Mortimer's non-European component is racially entirely different meanwhile those Sicilians, Jews, İslanders are still 100% Caucasian.

[Bobby Martnen]

Mortimer's non-European component is racially entirely different meanwhile those Sicilians, Jews, İslanders are still 100% Caucasian.

Indians are mostly Caucasoid.

[Marmara]

Indians are mostly Caucasoid.

Not mostly, and not Gypsies. Gypsies are descended from Dalit caste, least Caucasoid of İndians.

[Bobby Martnen]

Not mostly, and not Gypsies. Gypsies are descended from Dalit caste, least Caucasoid of İndians.

I see Mortimer (70% European) as Whiter than someone who is 50% European like Jew or Sicilian.

[Marmara]

I see Mortimer (70% European) as Whiter than someone who is 50% European like Jew or Sicilian.

"European" category in DNA tests are geographic, not racial. What else Sicilians and Jews got is still Caucasian.

[Bobby Martnen]

"European" category in DNA tests are geographic, not racial. What else Sicilians and Jews got is still Caucasian.

But to me, White = European, not all Caucasoids.

[Marmara]

But to me, White = European, not all Caucasoids.

Okay, this is "your" opinion. I don't really care so i won't be arguing more, i'm sure someone else will be interested more.

[Kouros]

I see Mortimer (70% European) as Whiter than someone who is 50% European like Jew or Sicilian.

Then you're retarded

[Bobby Martnen]

Then you're retarded

Why? He's 1.4 times as European genetically.

[StonyArabia]

No, his South Asian is mostly Caucasoid, but it probably Australoid elements

[Bobby Martnen]

No, his South Asian is mostly Caucasoid, but it probably Australoid elements

IMHO, White = European, not Caucasoids in general.

70% European and 30% anything else is whiter to me than 50% Euro, 50% MENA.

[JohnSmith]

I don't know why so many people on this forum like to give him shit about not being White, or saying he looks "Indian".

Genetically, he's ~70% White, which is more than Sicilians, Greek Islanders, and Jews, who range from 45-60% White.

So if they're White, then so is he.

He is my bro!

[Kouros]

Why? He's 1.4 times as European genetically.

Fucking lol, I hope you're not serious

[MercifulServant]

no

[Bobby Martnen]

Fucking lol, I hope you're not serious

I am serious. Mortimer has more European blood than South Italians, Jews, or Greek Islanders.

I don't see MENAs as white.

South Italians, Jews, and Greek Islanders are more Caucasoid than him, but he's Whiter.

[kleenex]

A great many Europeans are mixed with original settlers from the Caucasus (see Neolithic Otzi). Mainland Greeks are a combo of Neolithic settlers from the Caucausus (who arrived in Europe 7000-10000 years ago and settled in Thessaly, Bulgaria, Bavaria and other Central/West European regions) as well Indo Euro Settlers and pre Neolithic peoples (indigenous paleolithic Greeks). Greek Islanders may have slightly elevated Caucasus because they were isolated and less exposed to IE influence but they're as Euro as any other European.That's like saying that someone who is 75 percent Euro and 25 African American (500 years removed from Africa) is more European than an indigenous Eastern Med Euro (from Aegean Islands) whose ancestral roots in that region stretch back 7000 to 10000 (and beyond) years there is no comparison.

[MercifulServant]

I am serious. Mortimer has more European blood than South Italians, Jews, or Greek Islanders.



False, Sicilians usually have a higher european score then mortimer on 23andme

[Kouros]

I am serious. Mortimer has more European blood than South Italians, Jews, or Greek Islanders.

I don't see MENAs as white.

South Italians, Jews, and Greek Islanders are more Caucasoid than him, but he's Whiter.

Proto-indo-Europeans were 50% EHG 50% CHG 'MENA NOT WHITE XDDDDDDDDDD'. You're basically saying Mortimer is whiter than Aryans.

[StonyArabia]

IMHO, White = European, not Caucasoids in general.

70% European and 30% anything else is whiter to me than 50% Euro, 50% MENA.

Not true lol. Mortimer still looks more exotic than most people who are 50% Euro 50% MENA.

Half Bedouin half Anglo-Celt

https://s31.postimg.cc/f24qyjksr/halfbedo.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

btw his father is from the same tribe as my great-grandmother Howetiat

[TEUTORIGOS]

IMHO, White = European, not Caucasoids in general.

70% European and 30% anything else is whiter to me than 50% Euro, 50% MENA.

Ok, well then white , according to you, includes all eastern European ethnic groups, Scandinavians, Germans, French, Northern Italians , Austrians and Spanish etc... but since there has never been a country that included all those ethnic groups (America does not count since it has every ethnicity and race in world within it's borders) then white nationalism is retarded and the term white has no useful political meaning.

[Jased]

Is it possible for a Mexican to be as white as a Gypsy? Or about that same would you say? I'm only 69% European BTW.

[Mortimer]

Mortimer's non-European component is racially entirely different meanwhile those Sicilians, Jews, İslanders are still 100% Caucasian.

Iam 90+ caucasian. On old 23andme with 3 races 5 years ago i was 100 percent caucasian more then loki i remember that some teased loki that mortimer is whiter. now on ftdna ancient origins im 7 percent non european only. On eurogenes k7 iam 4 percent east euroasian 1 percent oceanian and 2 percent southeastasian thats again 7 percent noncaucasoid that means 93 percent caucasoid.

[Mortimer]

Not mostly, and not Gypsies. Gypsies are descended from Dalit caste, least Caucasoid of İndians.

Gypsies are caucasoid mostly more then any indian.

[Mortimer]

Not true lol. Mortimer still looks more exotic than most people who are 50% Euro 50% MENA.

Half Bedouin half Anglo-Celt

https://s31.postimg.cc/f24qyjksr/halfbedo.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

btw his father is from the same tribe as my great-grandmother Howetiat

He looks more exotic then me and my father was dark too dark european not anglo. If my father was stereotypical anglo i would be lighter too

[Mortimer]

I range from 3 to 7 percent ASI on gedmatch but proper oceanian is less then a percent like on ftdna its only in trace regions
No, his South Asian is mostly Caucasoid, but it probably Australoid elements

[StonyArabia]

He looks more exotic then me and my father was dark too dark european not anglo. If my father was stereotypical anglo i would be lighter too

Yeah, I don't know if he tanned or not, most people said he can pass as Iberian lol. He probably has minor SSA east African via his Bedouin father. Most likely, Bedouins are also divergent from European Caucasoids, this why I don't believe in a Caucasoid race lol.

[Mortimer]

Yeah, I don't know if he tanned or not, most people said he can pass as Iberian lol. He probably has minor SSA east African via his Bedouin father. Most likely, Bedouins are also divergent from European Caucasoids, this why I don't believe in a Caucasoid race lol.

I saw an arab who was rich and such on tv i think he owned arabian horses he looked vaucasoid but was as dark as a somali or southindian i dont know if he had ssa or if its from sun

[StonyArabia]

I saw an arab who was rich and such on tv i think he owned arabian horses he looked vaucasoid but was as dark as a somali or southindian i dont know if he had ssa or if its from sun

We tan heavily in the sun, most likely that. However all Semitic people have minor SSA mostly being East African, even Ashkenazim, and only some Iraqis score South Asian due to Persian influence for example in Bedouins it's very rare and my south Asian is from my Kavkaz side for example. Anyways they said that guy looked Iberian, but you look more like Anatolian which is more exotic than him, but like you said it could be he is maternally part Anglo well you are part Balkan.

[Bobby Martnen]

A great many Europeans are mixed with original settlers from the Caucasus (see Neolithic Otzi). Mainland Greeks are a combo of Neolithic settlers from the Caucausus (who arrived in Europe 7000-10000 years ago and settled in Thessaly, Bulgaria, Bavaria and other Central/West European regions) as well Indo Euro Settlers and pre Neolithic peoples (indigenous paleolithic Greeks). Greek Islanders may have slightly elevated Caucasus because they were isolated and less exposed to IE influence but they're as Euro as any other European.That's like saying that someone who is 75 percent Euro and 25 African American (500 years removed from Africa) is more European than an indigenous Eastern Med Euro (from Aegean Islands) whose ancestral roots in that region stretch back 7000 to 10000 (and beyond) years there is no comparison.

Someone who is 3/4 European, 1/4 African is Whiter than someone who is 1/2 European, 1/2 MENA.

[Bobby Martnen]

False, Sicilians usually have a higher european score then mortimer on 23andme

I'm talking about Eurogenes K36, which tends to be more accurate than 23andme.

[Bobby Martnen]

Proto-indo-Europeans were 50% EHG 50% CHG 'MENA NOT WHITE XDDDDDDDDDD'. You're basically saying Mortimer is whiter than Aryans.

I don't care about ancient or prehistoric components or admixture.

I prefer calculators with more modern components, like "North Atlantic" "West Med", etc...

[Bobby Martnen]

Not true lol. Mortimer still looks more exotic than most people who are 50% Euro 50% MENA.


Genotype is much more important than phenotype.

[Bobby Martnen]

Ok, well then white , according to you, includes all eastern European ethnic groups, Scandinavians, Germans, French, Northern Italians , Austrians and Spanish etc... but since there has never been a country that included all those ethnic groups (America does not count since it has every ethnicity and race in world within it's borders) then white nationalism is retarded and the term white has no useful political meaning.

White is a race, not an ethnic group.

[Mortimer]

We tan heavily in the sun, most likely that. However all Semitic people have minor SSA mostly being East African, even Ashkenazim, and only some Iraqis score South Asian due to Persian influence for example in Bedouins it's very rare and my south Asian is from my Kavkaz side for example. Anyways they said that guy looked Iberian, but you look more like Anatolian which is more exotic than him, but like you said it could be he is maternally part Anglo well you are part Balkan.

Even if they said that i disagree that i look more exotic. He looks northafrican to me he could be iberian but a dark exotic one. Iberians have 20 percent northafrican.75001

[Bobby Martnen]

Is it possible for a Mexican to be as white as a Gypsy? Or about that same would you say? I'm only 69% European BTW.

Genetically, yes, but culturally Gypsies are more Western/Euro than Mexicans.

[Mortimer]

I disagree that i look that exotic. 750027500375004
Genotype is much more important than phenotype.

[NSXD60]

Yeah, Bob, everyone's White, there are no he's no she's, just good people, but this is not the Good People's Forum. It's not about this or that person being personable, and you trying to tell them that they are practically White, it's about lying to people that can't recognize their own image in the mirror for what it is. Quit sucking up, so to speak.

[Bobby Martnen]

I disagree that i look that exotic.

You look whiter than some Sicilians, that's for sure.

[Mortimer]

So what do you think i look like? If i cant recognise my image.
Yeah, Bob, everyone's White, there are no he's no she's, just good people, but this is not the Good People's Forum. It's not about this or that person being personable, and you trying to tell them that they are practically White, it's about lying to people that can't recognize their own image in the mirror for what it is. Quit sucking up, so to speak.

[NSXD60]

General Indid mixed with Med, Mongol and Slav.

[Mortimer]

Why mongol?
General Indid mixed with Med, Mongol and Slav.

[grecoroman]

Maybe europe should send its gypsies to the usa then you Will see what we are dealing with these animals. Theyr way worse then those so called mexicans. The reason You stick up for these animals is because you believe theyr some exotic peacefull europeans, but you have never seen of smelled one in real life. So either shut your fucking peace of shit american obese mouth or you take these animals into your home country

[Bobby Martnen]

Yeah, Bob, everyone's White, there are no he's no she's, just good people, but this is not the Good People's Forum. It's not about this or that person being personable, and you trying to tell them that they are practically White, it's about lying to people that can't recognize their own image in the mirror for what it is. Quit sucking up, so to speak.

I'm not sucking up or lying. I honestly see Mortimer as a White man.

[Bobby Martnen]

General Indid mixed with Med, Mongol and Slav.

You're a retard if you think he looks mostly Indid, and/or if you think he has Mongol influence.

[NSXD60]

Because when the Gypsies were moving out of India much of the Northern routes were ruled by Mongols and so was much of West Asia.

[Bobby Martnen]

Maybe europe should send its gypsies to the usa then you Will see what we are dealing with these animals. Theyr way worse then those so called mexicans. The reason You stick up for these animals is because you believe theyr some exotic peacefull europeans, but you have never seen of smelled one in real life. So either shut your fucking peace of shit american obese mouth or you take these animals into your home country

Gypsies are human beings with souls just like me and you.

[grecoroman]

Send all the Gypsy animals to the usa lol then we will see if theyr White.

[Bobby Martnen]

Send all the Gypsy animals to the usa lol then we will see if theyr White.

I don't think all Gypsies are White, but Mortimer is 70% White, so he's White to me.

[Mortimer]

So westasians are mongols too what about east europeans?
Because when the Gypsies were moving out of India much of the Northern routes were ruled by Mongols and so was much of West Asia.

[NSXD60]

Anyone who thinks that Slavs represent the original PIE phenotype is dreaming, because the Mongols raped and impregnated hordes of Slavettes.

[Mortimer]

You dont need to see me as white though to be my friend before 2009 i never posted pictures and always identified as biracial and just brown. First time i filled out a greencard application with 16 i checked biracial when i was looking for a job in ohio in 2007 i checked biracial. I never made differences between humans i liked black women asian women etc i think i was influenced and confused if you see me as human you dont need to see me as white
I'm not sucking up or lying. I honestly see Mortimer as a White man.

[Mortimer]

And germans were raped by huns and russians british were raped by romans who had black soldiers?
Anyone who thinks that Slavs represent the original PIE phenotype are dreaming, because the Mongols raped and impregnated hordes of Slavettes.

[Bobby Martnen]

You dont need to see me as white though to be my friend before 2009 i never posted pictures and always identified as biracial and just brown. First time i filled out a greencard application with 16 i checked biracial when i was looking for a job in ohio in 2007 i checked biracial. I never made differences between humans i liked black women asian women etc i think i was influenced and confused if you see me as human you dont need to see me as white

I see you as White because you are genetically mostly European, not because I'm trying to be nice to you.

I know people who are 1/4 Pakistani, Persian, or East Asian and 3/4 White, and I see them as White (as do other people in my area), and since you're close to 3/4 White, I see you as White too.

[Papastratosels26]

LOL sicilian,jews and Greek islanders are not white WOW!!!!!

[Bobby Martnen]

LOL sicilian,jews and Greek islanders are not white WOW!!!!!

They're only half White.

[Jased]

Genetically, yes, but culturally Gypsies are more Western/Euro than Mexicans.


Well maybe because they live in Europe I'm planning to migrated to Southern Spain and lived there where 69% of my Euro DNA mostly come from according also to family search. I've been told look atypical Spanish or Canary islander rathern than mestiza by my Spaniard friends.

[Kouros]

Genotype is more important than phenotype but you consider a quadroon or gypsy whiter than a Sicilian? The fuck? Yeah, the Iberians and Brits needed 23andMe kits to decide whether racial segregation was a good idea during colonization.

[Bobby Martnen]

Genotype is more important than phenotype but you consider a quadroon or gypsy whiter than a Sicilian? The fuck? Yeah, the Iberians and Brits needed 23andMe kits to decide whether racial segregation was a good idea during colonization.

I don't consider a full Gypsy Whiter than a Sicilian, since a full Gypsy is usually only 30-40% White.

But Mortimer is 44% European, 56% Gypsy, so he's 70% White.

[Kouros]

I don't consider a full Gypsy Whiter than a Sicilian, since a full Gypsy is usually only 30-40% White.

But Mortimer is 44% European, 56% Gypsy, so he's 70% White.

Mortimer is visibly gypsy, a quadroon is visibly SSA, that's the problem

[Bobby Martnen]

Mortimer is visibly gypsy, a quadroon is visibly SSA, that's the problem

And Sicilians are often visibly MENA.

[Kouros]

And Sicilians are often visibly MENA.

Proto-'whites' were 50% 'MENA' CHG. You're basically saying that Mortimer is whiter than these people.

[Smeagol]

All those people are whiter than Mortimer. By your logic a quadroon is whiter than Kirk Douglas.

[Bobby Martnen]

All those people are whiter than Mortimer. By your logic a quadroon is whiter than Kirk Douglas.

Technically from a genetic standpoint, the quadroon is. I'm not talking about phenotype or how they will be socially perceived.

I agree that Douglas is whiter-looking and will be White socially where the quadroon is not.

But the quadroon has more actual European blood.

[Bobby Martnen]

Proto-'whites' were 50% 'MENA' CHG. You're basically saying that Mortimer is whiter than these people.

Lots of Whites have virtually no MENA blood, like NW and NE Euros.

[Smeagol]

Technically from a genetic standpoint, the quadroon is. I'm not talking about phenotype or how they will be socially perceived.

I agree that Douglas is whiter-looking and will be White socially where the quadroon is not.

But the quadroon has more actual European blood.


No, biologically the quadroon is much farther away from Europe.

[Bobby Martnen]

No, biologically the quadroon is much farther away from Europe.

It depends on if you go with clustering/PCA plot positions or admixture.

The quadroon has more European blood, but still clusters further from Europe.

[Smeagol]

It depends on if you go with clustering/PCA plot positions or admixture.

The quadroon has more European blood, but still clusters further from Europe.

It doesn't matter when the remaining portion of their blood is so tainted. Europeans and Middle Easterners are biologically the same race anyway.

[Bobby Martnen]

It doesn't matter when the remaining portion of their blood is so tainted. Europeans and Middle Easterners are biologically the same race anyway.

They're both Caucasoid, but I don't think they're the same race
https://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2013/11/113634012-AB.jpeg

[Smeagol]

They're both Caucasoid, but I don't think they're the same race
https://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2013/11/113634012-AB.jpeg

Osama bin laden had nigger ancestry, he doesn't count.

[Bobby Martnen]

Osama bin laden had nigger ancestry, he doesn't count.

He did?

[Smeagol]

He did?

Yeah, I read somewhere he had Ethiopian blood. Many Yemenis do.

[Kouros]

Technically from a genetic standpoint, the quadroon is.

By what metric...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b_OUyvAOJfo/UH6mOGV0OII/AAAAAAAAG9U/tP3lG_BxQ20/s640/tangledweb.gif

[Bobby Martnen]

Yeah, I read somewhere he had Ethiopian blood. Many Yemenis do.

But even Levantine/NW Euro half-and-half people can't really pass in Europe

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/2b/34/8f2b34dce99e0b55bf16da0ae3700a34.jpg

[Bobby Martnen]

By what metric...


By amount of actual European (as opposed to just Caucasoid) blood.

[Smeagol]

But even Levantine/NW Euro half-and-half people can't really pass in Europe

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/2b/34/8f2b34dce99e0b55bf16da0ae3700a34.jpg

Most can. The King of Jordan looks white to me.

[Bobby Martnen]

Most can. The King of Jordan looks white to me.

He'd be very atypical for any part of Europe.

I don't hate MENAs, I just don't really see them as being the same race as you or I. Is some Syrian refugee really the same race as Donald Trump?

[Kouros]

It depends on if you go with clustering/PCA plot positions or admixture.

The quadroon has more European blood, but still clusters further from Europe.

A quadroon with 3 lithuanian grandparents clusters north of all Southern Europeans. You're basically saying someone like this is white.

https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/11931256_1737657806463787_1892837048_n.jpg

[Bobby Martnen]

A quadroon with 3 lithuanian grandparents clusters north of all Southern Europeans. You're basically saying someone like this is white.


I don't think so. Africa is an extremely southern shift.

[Smeagol]

He'd be very atypical for any part of Europe.

I don't hate MENAs, I just don't really see them as being the same race as you or I. Is some Syrian refugee really the same race as Donald Trump?

Biologically speaking yes. And I do hate most MENAS.

[Bobby Martnen]

Biologically speaking yes. And I do hate most MENAS.

But why do you see them as the same race, when they have their own genetic cluster that is different than ours? Indians are Caucasoid too, but you don't call them White.

[Kouros]

I don't think so. Africa is an extremely southern shift.

He's 75% White 25% Black, he's white according to your logic, why are you denying it now?

[Smeagol]

But why do you see them as the same race, when they have their own genetic cluster that is different than ours? Indians are Caucasoid too, but you don't call them White.

European and Middle Eastern clusters are right next to each other on a world PCA plot, there's no real dividing line between them. Indians are much more distant and a mix between Caucasoids and Australoids.

[Bobby Martnen]

He's 75% White 25% Black, he's white according to your logic, why are you denying it now?

Maybe. Africans are more genetically different from Euros than MENAs and Indians are.

Mortimer is 70% Euro, 10% MENA, and 20% South Asian.

Since you seem to see MENA as White, that would make Mortimer 80% White in your eyes, and South Asians are mostly Caucasoid and way closer to Europe genetically than SSAs are.

[Bobby Martnen]

European and Middle Eastern clusters are right next to each other on a world PCA plot, there's no real dividing line between them. Indians are much more distant and a mix between Caucasoids and Australoids.

The Euro and MENA clusters are adjacent, but there's a clear dividing line
http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15V4.png

[Smeagol]

The Euro and MENA clusters are adjacent, but there's a clear dividing line
http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15V4.png

There's no gap between them. Sicilians and Lebanese for example are closer than either is to Germans or Yemenis.

[Bobby Martnen]

There's no gap between them. Sicilians and Lebanese for example are closer than either is to Germans or Yemenis.

There's not a huge gap, but you could draw a straight and clear dividing line.

[Smeagol]

There's not a huge gap, but you could draw a straight and clear dividing line.

Not really.

[Bobby Martnen]

Not really.

https://i.imgur.com/5M5FOPX.png

[Smeagol]

https://i.imgur.com/5M5FOPX.png

Yes but the line is arbitrary. Cypriots and Sephardic Jews are not separate races.

[Bobby Martnen]

Yes but the line is arbitrary. Cypriots and Sephardic Jews are not separate races.

It can be a blurred line, but a German and an Iraqi are clearly not the same racially.

[Smeagol]

It can be a blurred line, but a German and an Iraqi are clearly not the same racially.

I disagree personally. They're both Caucasoids.

[Kouros]

Since you seem to see MENA as White

Strawman?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b_OUyvAOJfo/UH6mOGV0OII/AAAAAAAAG9U/tP3lG_BxQ20/s640/tangledweb.gif

[Mortimer]

Im not a quadroon im 90q caucasian southern europeans have some hidden ssa and jews too and northafrican which hides ssa i cluster in europe and southcentral asian is right next to europe gypsies are inbetween europe and southcentral asian some indians are next to the asian cluster but not gypsies and some mena are shifted towards the african cluster you count for indian the most asian shifted but for mena the least african shifted but who says this a jew and a greek makes sense

[Bobby Martnen]

I disagree personally. They're both Caucasoids.

I agree that they're both Caucasoids, but to me, White is European.

But I agree that the borderline is somewhat arbitrary.

[Bobby Martnen]

Strawman?


It's not a strawman, you said that you think a Sicilian/Jew/Greek Islander (1/2 Euro, 1/2 MENA) is White.

[Mortimer]

You say this because you are a jew sephardis have 40 percent northafrican which hides at least as much ssa as i have asi and asi and european are closer then european and ssa
Yes but the line is arbitrary. Cypriots and Sephardic Jews are not separate races.

[Bobby Martnen]

You say this because you are a jew sephardis have 40 percent northafrican which hides at least as much ssa as i have asi and asi and european are closer then european and ssa

Smeagol probably clusters with Austrians (I used pixel math to calculate where someone 1/2 English, 1/8 German, 3/16 Russian, and 3/16 Ashkenazi would plot on the Eurogenes K15 plot)

[Smeagol]

You say this because you are a jew

Not really. Having only a small amount of Jewish ancestry, I'm well within the European cluster.


sephardis have 40 percent northafrican

No they don't.


which hides at least as much ssa as i have asi and asi and european are closer then european and ssa

You look like a brown mexican, deal with it.

[Mortimer]

Not really. Having only a small amount of Jewish ancestry, I'm well within the European cluster.



No they don't.



You look like a brown mexican, deal with it.
Anglo jew is also in the european cluster. Is he a jew or not you could get israeli citizen maybe you do and troll her based on your grandfather who was a jew with small admix but even mark had small polish and skyburn too. Bobby claimed im white i didnt and im less brown then a few jews and greeks but i dont claim to be white and sephardis do have northafrican some even more like 70 percent 40 is the average inform yourself

[Bobby Martnen]

Anglo jew is also in the european cluster. Is he a jew or not you could get israeli citizen maybe you do and troll her based on your grandfather who was a jew with small admix but even mark had small polish and skyburn too. Bobby claimed im white i didnt and im less brown then a few jews and greeks but i dont claim to be white and sephardis do have northafrican some even more like 70 percent 40 is the average inform yourself

If Smeagol's grandfather was raised Jewish (i.e. if he had a bris or a bar mitzvah, I don't remember which it is), then Smeagol can become an Israeli citizen.

If Smeagol's grandfather was not raised Jewish, Smeagol cannot become an Israeli citizen.

[Mortimer]

If Smeagol's grandfather was raised Jewish (i.e. if he had a bris or a bar mitzvah, I don't remember which it is), then Smeagol can become an Israeli citizen.

If Smeagol's grandfather was not raised Jewish, Smeagol cannot become an Israeli citizen.

True but he believed that his grandfather was a pure jew so likely this man was culturally jewish

[Bobby Martnen]

True but he believed that his grandfather was a pure jew so likely this man was culturally jewish

I grew up in an area with a lot of Jews, interestingly enough.

[Bobby Martnen]

https://media.giphy.com/media/atYtHtLZu9o1G/giphy.gif

[Smeagol]

Anglo jew is also in the european cluster. Is he a jew or not

Anglojew is just as Anglo-Saxon as he is Jewish. Difference is he identifies as a Jew while I do not. I'm not a Jew by any definition.


you could get israeli citizen

People who are only 1/16 Italian can get Italian citizenship. Are they Italians?


maybe you do and troll her

What?


sephardis do have northafrican some even more like 70 percent 40 is the average inform yourself

No they don't, unless they're Berber Jews, but I don't have any Sephardi ancestry anyway.

[Smeagol]

True but he believed that his grandfather was a pure jew so likely this man was culturally jewish


He's culturally normal American and agnostic. I have no idea if he ever had a bar mitzvah or whatever.

[Bobby Martnen]

He's culturally normal American and agnostic. I have no idea if he ever had a bar mitzvah or whatever.

Seems like there's two main groups of American Jews

1. The secular and religiously liberal: Not very different than anyone else, and tend to intermarry with Gentiles

2. The Orthodox: different than other Americans, and extremely averse to intermarriage.

[Smeagol]

1. The secular and religiously liberal: Not very different than anyone else, and tend to intermarry with Gentiles.

Yeah, my grandpa married a gentile and no one in either family had a problem with it.

[Mortimer]

Like i said i dont claim to be white it doesnt matter to me i like posting pictures but thats all

[StonyArabia]

AngloJew is maternally Jewish, and his father is English-Australian. Anyways Ashkenazim are more European than Gypsies, it's not even argument. Ashkenazim assimilated a lot of North Italian genes from the maternal side. When they migrated so additional Germanic and Slavic elements were added were small. Gypsies on the other hand have high South Asian, some Anatolian, and good portion of Balkan elements. Clearly someone with Ashkenazi ancestry will be more European than someone with Balkan Roma ancestry. Of course Gypsies are quite mixed and range in looks and skin color. Ashkenazim have more of uniform genetics and even look to an extent.

[Bobby Martnen]

AngloJew is maternally Jewish, and his father is English-Australian. Anyways Ashkenazim are more European than Gypsies, it's not even argument. Ashkenazim assimilated a lot of North Italian genes from the maternal side. When they migrated so additional Germanic and Slavic elements were added were small. Gypsies on the other hand have high South Asian, some Anatolian, and good portion of Balkan elements. Clearly someone with Ashkenazi ancestry will be more European than someone with Balkan Roma ancestry. Of course Gypsies are quite mixed and range in looks and skin color. Ashkenazim have more of uniform genetics and even look to an extent.

I think AngloJew is the son of a Jewish father and an Anglo mother.

Ashkenazim are whiter than pure Gypsies, but Mortimer is 7/16 Euro, and thus whiter than Ashkenazim.

[StonyArabia]

I think if Mortmer loses weight, he would be less exotic, and his Serbian side will show more. Not to mention Mortimer is more European than he is South Asian and is assimilated. Is he White, he can pass to extent he is relatively light skinned. I think in Canada no one will question him to be honest, because mannerism also play in identification believe it or not. His sister I don't think will pass though, since she is very dark, despite her Balkan features. Mortimer is nice guy, often gets bullied on here due to his ancestry

[StonyArabia]

I think AngloJew is the son of a Jewish father and an Anglo mother.

Ashkenazim are whiter than pure Gypsies, but Mortimer is 7/16 Euro, and thus whiter than Ashkenazim.

I see, I thought his mom was Jewish.

Yes, some groups like the Romanichal and ScandoRoma are more White/European than Ashkenazim but they are very atypical

[Mortimer]

AngloJew is maternally Jewish, and his father is English-Australian. Anyways Ashkenazim are more European than Gypsies, it's not even argument. Ashkenazim assimilated a lot of North Italian genes from the maternal side. When they migrated so additional Germanic and Slavic elements were added were small. Gypsies on the other hand have high South Asian, some Anatolian, and good portion of Balkan elements. Clearly someone with Ashkenazi ancestry will be more European than someone with Balkan Roma ancestry. Of course Gypsies are quite mixed and range in looks and skin color. Ashkenazim have more of uniform genetics and even look to an extent.

Anglo jew has a jewish father and anglo mother. Ashkenazim are white to me. Gypsies are not or at least not many and my family is one the ones who are not. I didnt brought up this argument.

[Mortimer]

You are a nice guy too bro. And i dont need to be white or pass as white its important that im healthy if im white is not important. If i can be healthy get a woman i like and love its ok. I think and hope that white supremacy and racial segregation is a thing of the past.
I think if Mortmer loses weight, he would be less exotic, and his Serbian side will show more. Not to mention Mortimer is more European than he is South Asian and is assimilated. Is he White, he can pass to extent he is relatively light skinned. I think in Canada no one will question him to be honest, because mannerism also play in identification believe it or not. His sister I don't think will pass though, since she is very dark, despite her Balkan features. Mortimer is nice guy, often gets bullied on here due to his ancestry

[Kouros]

It's not a strawman, you said that you think a Sicilian/Jew/Greek Islander (1/2 Euro, 1/2 MENA) is White.

Quote the post where I said that because I'm confident I've never once said that Greeks (from any region) are white in the 3,000+ posts I've made on this forum because I don't care what some virgin stormfronters think about my ethnicity. I think it's obvious by now that I'm not a self hating Nordicist/OWDer like a lot of balkanimals on here.

Smeagol is right that the line is arbitary. You drew the line on the basis of what color the PCA points are and nothing else. There's no reason why that line shouldn't be near Bulgaria, or Albania, or France, or Britain, etc.


(1/2 Euro, 1/2 MENA)

What's 'MENA' and what's 'Euro'? There's no 'Euro' and 'MENA' components, just components like West Eurasian and East Eurasian that are labelled in the diagram I posted above. You're basing your entire argument over what you consider 'MENA' in pseudoscientific GEDmatch calculators.

You're basically saying that someone like Mortimer, who wouldn't be mistaken for anything but gypsy in the balkans. Is 'more European' than these

Sicilians:

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2009/july22/gifs/zim_students_news.jpg

and these Cretans:

http://www.lau.edu.lb/news-events/news/archive/cultural_dialogue_at_the_cente/greece-training2010-01-big.jpg

Which is why I think you're retarded as fuck

[Bobby Martnen]

Quote the post where I said that because I'm confident I've never once said that Greeks (from any region) are white in the 3,000+ posts I've made on this forum because I don't care what some virgin stormfronters think about my ethnicity. I think it's obvious by now that I'm not a self hating Nordicist/OWDer like a lot of balkanimals on here.

Smeagol is right that the line is arbitary. You drew the line on the basis of what color the PCA points are and nothing else. There's no reason why that line shouldn't be near Bulgaria, or Albania, or France, or Britain, etc.



What's 'MENA' and what's 'Euro'? There's no 'Euro' and 'MENA' components, just components like West Eurasian and East Eurasian that are labelled in the diagram I posted above. You're basing your entire argument over what you consider 'MENA' in pseudoscientific GEDmatch calculators.

GEDmatch is not pseudoscience.


You're basically saying that someone like Mortimer, who wouldn't be mistaken for anything but gypsy in the balkans. Is 'more European' than these


He has more European blood than them.

[Bosniensis]

.....

What are traditional baduin names for European people?

Who are Banu Asfar?

Are they Europeans or only certain group of Europeans?

[Kouros]

GEDmatch is not pseudoscience.



He has more European blood than them.

He has more European blood than Yamna people who where 50% West Asian.

GEDmatch is pseudoscience. There's no 'North Sea' or 'Red Sea' race, they are all made up.

[MEDACHE]

awww how adorable... you're sticking up for your boyfriend

[Bobby Martnen]

awww how adorable... you're sticking up for your boyfriend

He's not my boyfriend, he's just one of the best users here.

[StonyArabia]

What are traditional baduin names for European people?

Who are Banu Asfar?

Are they Europeans or only certain group of Europeans?

Bedouins referred to all Europeans as "Romans". However other terms came to be such as Frangi meaning Frankish, and then Banu Asfar was used as the better alternative to " Romans", once contact was established with other European groups. Banu Asfar means children of the yellow, referring to the blond hair that Europeans had and their pale skin, at times the term can be used in a negative manner. They are believed to be the descendants of Noah's eldest son Japeith.

[MEDACHE]

He's not my boyfriend, he's just one of the best users here.

you've been sucking his e-dick for a while, thought it may have been something more serious. guess you're just living the typical promiscuous queer guy lifestyle.

[Bobby Martnen]

you've been sucking his e-dick for a while, thought it may have been something more serious. guess you're just living the typical promiscuous queer guy lifestyle.

:picard2:

[Bobby Martnen]

you've been sucking his e-dick for a while, thought it may have been something more serious. guess you're just living the typical promiscuous queer guy lifestyle.

:picard2:

[Methuselah]

We tan heavily in the sun, most likely that. However all Semitic people have minor SSA mostly being East African, even Ashkenazim, and only some Iraqis score South Asian due to Persian influence for example in Bedouins it's very rare and my south Asian is from my Kavkaz side for example. Anyways they said that guy looked Iberian, but you look more like Anatolian which is more exotic than him, but like you said it could be he is maternally part Anglo well you are part Balkan.

Is this due to Persian Empire as well? How well spread that South Asian admixture is in Kavkaz? Is it only like in Azerbaijan or all over the place?

[StonyArabia]

Is this due to Persian Empire as well? How well spread that South Asian admixture is in Kavkaz? Is it only like in Azerbaijan or all over the place?

Possibly from Persian raids. It's seen spread all over the Caucasus to be honest From Chechens to Azeris lol. Persians owned the Caucasus until the 1800's. They also had long interaction with Circassians, Chechens, etc who were more less independent before the Russian conquest, though Circassia had strong Crimean khanate influence and indirectly Ottoman. Persians regained their Caucasus holdings but lost it to the Russian empire.

[EdwardS]

Mortimer is a white gypsy!

[guerrilla]

you guys pay too much attention in that untrustworthy "genetical" stuff

[Catarinense1998]

Well maybe because they live in Europe I'm planning to migrated to Southern Spain and lived there where 69% of my Euro DNA mostly come from according also to family search. I've been told look atypical Spanish or Canary islander rathern than mestiza by my Spaniard friends.

The spaniads nationalists will hate you.69% of european heritage not do you spaniard.No es justo con los espanoles nativos chica.La Espana é deles no de usted.Only argentinians and uruguayans generally are x>90% european so they are "fit well" in spain.

[Leto]

@Bobby, the 'MENAs' differ a lot between themselves, just as the Europeans do. Someone who is half Kurdish or half Lebanese is different from someone who is half Yemeni or Moroccan. I don't think Mortimer is more European on GEDmatch than the half-Iranian.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?230580-Aryan-GEDmatch-Results&highlight=Aryan+GEDmatch+results

@Mortimer, can you post your Dodecad K12b results?

[Mortimer]

The yamnaya carried also lower levels of asi southasian
He has more European blood than Yamna people who where 50% West Asian.

GEDmatch is pseudoscience. There's no 'North Sea' or 'Red Sea' race, they are all made up.

[Mortimer]

No i cant because my provider cut my internet im only on phone and i dont know to run gedmatch on phone
@Bobby, the 'MENAs' differ a lot between themselves, just as the Europeans do. Someone who is half Kurdish or half Lebanese is different from someone who is half Yemeni or Moroccan. I don't think Mortimer is more European on GEDmatch than the half-Iranian.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?230580-Aryan-GEDmatch-Results&highlight=Aryan+GEDmatch+results

@Mortimer, can you post your Dodecad K12b results?

[Jased]

The spaniads nationalists will hate you.69% of european heritage not do you spaniard.No es justo con los espanoles nativos chica.La Espana é deles no de usted.Only argentinians and uruguayans generally are x>90% european so they are "fit well" in spain.

That's very FAR from the reality Southern Spaniards are known to be open mind and friendly unlike Northern Spaniards who tend to be very direct and cold as of matter of fact there's plenty of Mexicans living in Sevilla and Malaga and they are all doing fine maybe because they don't have a Southern American or Ecuadorian face my Spanish friends always give me complements that I'm so pretty I'm like OK thanks lol.

[Catarinense1998]

That's very FAR from the reality Southern Spaniards are known to be open mind and friendly unlike Northern Spaniards who tend to be very direct and cold as of matter of fact there's plenty of Mexicans living in Sevilla and Malaga and they are all doing fine maybe because they don't have a Southern American or Ecuadorian face my Spanish friends always give me complements that I'm so pretty I'm like OK thanks lol.

What the Southerns Spaniards think shouldnt matter here.It is about your character.Your place is in Mexico, not España.You never will be like a true and original spaniard.At least you should be 90% european, but nor this you have.Think about this.No offense - but be conscious about you are doing.

[Marmara]

That's very FAR from the reality Southern Spaniards are known to be open mind and friendly unlike Northern Spaniards who tend to be very direct and cold as of matter of fact there's plenty of Mexicans living in Sevilla and Malaga and they are all doing fine maybe because they don't have a Southern American or Ecuadorian face my Spanish friends always give me complements that I'm so pretty I'm like OK thanks lol.

Do what you wish. I don't think regular Spaniards are so obsessed with race and nationality as people here try to make it sound like. I'm sure you're a pretty woman.

[Jased]

What the Southerns Spaniards think shouldnt matter here.It is about your character.Your place is in Mexico, not España.You never will be like a true and original spaniard.At least you should be 90% european, but nor this you have.Think about this.No offense - but be conscious about you are doing.

You have no idea what you saying you speaking none sense there's PLENTY of Mexicans living in Spain Sevilla and Malaga and they all doing fine etc since our Spanish ancestors were from there, so it make sense for us to feel connection to Andalusia. Watch this Mexican lady for example living in Sevilla Spain and read the comments how are the Spaniards responding to her that she is beautiful.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeaWG8mXMxk


Many Southern americans dislike the idea that many Spaniards and Mexicans get along so well probably because we are not a huge community there that is taking the government resources and because we dont have a very pronounced indigenous face like the Southern americans do in Spain.

[Catarinense1998]

You have no idea what you saying you speaking none sense there's PLENTY of Mexicans living in Spain Sevilla and Malaga and they all doing fine etc since our Spanish ancestors were from there, so it make sense for us to feel connection to Andalusia. Watch this Mexican lady for example living in Sevilla Spain and read the comments how are the Spaniards responding to her that she is beautiful.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeaWG8mXMxk


Many Southern americans dislike the idea that many Spaniards and Mexicans get along so well probably because we are not a huge community there that is taking the government resources and because we dont have a very pronounced indigenous face like the Southern americans do in Spain.

"We dont have a very pronounced indigenous face like the Southern americans do in Spain" - what a retard comment made.I bet that the spaniard would prefer 100 argentinians or uruguayans than 10.000 mexicans in their country.You never will change the fact that you dont is spaniard by blood or by born.Again, at least, you should have 90% of european blood.About the cultural question, you could be assimilate quite fast beacause you already speak spanish.

"since our Spanish ancestors were from there, so it make sense for us to feel connection to Andalusia" - other stupid argument.I am 25% german by blood but this dont allow me to go to Germany or to selfdeclare german because 1/4 is very low percentage and I dont look german.Spain to the spaniards and their descendent with 90% < x european (iberian + others) blood.It is so simple.I dont care about the fact that thousands of mexicans live there in South Spain beacause ALL should be deported.For stupid thoughts like these that you beleive Europe will be like American countries in next decades.

[Catarinense1998]

Do what you wish. I don't think regular Spaniards are so obsessed with race and nationality as people here try to make it sound like. I'm sure you're a pretty woman.

lol I respect you a lot.But, in other thread, about the entry of pakistanis, afghans in turkey, you was desliked.I hope that you believe in my point here.

[Marmara]

lol I respect you a lot.But, in other thread, about the entry of pakistanis, afghans in turkey, you was desliked.I hope that you believe in my point here.

Pakistanis and Afghans for Turkey isn't the same with Mexicans for Spain. She's a native spanish speaker with mostly spanish ancestry, seeks to move there in normal ways and become part of society. Afghans are alien people for Turkey who cross the border illegally. I'm not a racist person at all, and she seems a nice person i think you hurt her feelings for no good reason.

[Catarinense1998]

Pakistanis and Afghans for Turkey isn't the same with Mexicans for Spain. She's a native spanish speaker with mostly spanish ancestry, seeks to move there in normal ways and become part of society. Afghans are alien people for Turkey who cross the border illegally.

"mostly spanish ancestry (69)" - this alone cant be sufficient to allow him to live in Spain.But ok, I respect your view.

[Leto]

I have found Mortimer's MDLP K16 results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.3
2 Neolithic 20.23
3 Steppe 14.8
4 NorthEastEuropean 14.24
5 Indian 13.41
6 SouthEastAsian 2.88
7 NearEast 2.42
8 NorthAfrican 2.28
9 Australian 1.08
10 Siberian 0.26
11 Amerindian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian (Romania) 9.82
2 Romanian (Gorj) 12.53
3 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 12.88
4 Greek (Peloponnes) 13.55
5 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 13.75
6 Romanian (Apuseni) 13.77
7 Moldavian (Molodva) 13.79
8 Macedonian (Macedonia) 13.95
9 Swiss (Switzerland) 13.98
10 Italian (Friul) 14.2
11 Greek (Greece) 14.22
12 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 14.3
13 Kosovar (Kosovo) 14.3
14 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 14.52
15 Roma (Gypsy) 14.55
16 Italian (NorthIitaly) 14.63
17 Jew (Belmonte) 14.75
18 Greek (Macedonia) 14.85
19 Greek (Thessaloniki) 14.89
20 Albanian (Albania) 14.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.1% Romanian (Gorj) + 24.9% Kashmiri_Pandit (Kashmir) @ 2.22
2 76.9% Romanian (Gorj) + 23.1% Gujjar (Punjab) @ 2.48
3 79% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 21% Kanjars (Punjab) @ 2.6
4 78.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 21.3% Kanjars (Punjab) @ 2.62
5 79.3% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 20.7% Kurmi (Nepal) @ 2.69
6 73% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 27% Kashmiri_Pandit (Kashmir) @ 2.7
7 78.7% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 21.3% Lambadi (Karnataka) @ 2.7
8 75.2% Romanian (Gorj) + 24.8% Jatt (Pahari) @ 2.74
9 74.8% Romanian (Gorj) + 25.2% Pathan (Punjab) @ 2.76
10 74% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 26% Burusho (Pakistan) @ 2.77
11 76.1% Romanian (Gorj) + 23.9% Burusho (Pakistan) @ 2.79
12 78.4% Romanian (Gorj) + 21.6% Sindhi (Sindh) @ 2.79
13 79.4% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 20.6% Velama (Andhra_Pradesh) @ 2.81
14 76.1% Romanian (Gorj) + 23.9% Jatt (Muslim) @ 2.82
15 75.7% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 24.3% Kshatriya (India) @ 2.84
16 74% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 26% Jatt (Muslim) @ 2.84
17 79.8% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 20.2% Marwadi (Rajasthan) @ 2.86
18 78.2% Romanian (Gorj) + 21.8% Meena (Rajasthan) @ 2.86
19 73.2% Romanian (Gorj) + 26.8% Jew (Mumbai) @ 2.87
20 74.3% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 25.7% Burusho (Pakistan) @ 2.87

For comparison

Moldovan

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 26.8
2 Neolithic 26.35
3 NorthEastEuropean 22.6
4 Steppe 19.79
5 NearEast 1.52
6 Siberian 0.96
7 SouthEastAsian 0.75
8 Arctic 0.69
9 Australian 0.42
10 Amerindian 0.1
11 Ancestor 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian (Serbia) 3.92
2 Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 4.01
3 Moldavian (Molodva) 4.03
4 Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 4.11
5 Croat (Croatia) 4.22
6 Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 4.25
7 Romanian (Apuseni) 4.27
8 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 4.46
9 Austrian (Austria) 5.11
10 Macedonian (Macedonia) 5.82
11 Slovenian (Slovenia) 5.88
12 Romanian (Gorj) 5.93
13 German (SouthGermany) 6.26
14 French (EastFrance) 6.49
15 French (NorthwestFrance) 6.54
16 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 6.77
17 German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) 6.98
18 Hungarian (Hungary) 7.17
19 Italian (Friul) 7.18
20 Swiss (Switzerland) 7.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.1% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 30.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 1.66
2 72.6% Dutch (Netherlands) + 27.4% Greek (Greece) @ 1.74
3 58.5% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 41.5% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 1.77
4 60.5% Norwegian (Norwegia) + 39.5% Greek (Greece) @ 1.8
5 63.6% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 36.4% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 1.8
6 70.9% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 29.1% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 1.83
7 70.2% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 29.8% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 1.84
8 66.6% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 33.4% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 1.84
9 72.1% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 27.9% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 1.89
10 60.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 39.5% Irish (Connacht) @ 1.93
11 54.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 45.5% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 1.93
12 66.9% Dutch (Netherlands) + 33.1% Greek (Macedonia) @ 1.94
13 60.3% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 39.7% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 1.94
14 62.8% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 37.2% Irish (Munster) @ 1.97
15 64.3% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 35.7% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 1.98
16 62.3% Dutch (Netherlands) + 37.7% Albanian (Albania) @ 2
17 67.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 32.5% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 2.01
18 58.4% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 41.6% Irish (Connacht) @ 2.02
19 64.7% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 35.3% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.03
20 68.7% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 31.3% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 2.07


Croat

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 26.88
2 Neolithic 26.42
3 Caucasian 24.46
4 Steppe 19.62
5 NearEast 2.19
6 Siberian 0.24
7 NorthAfrican 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croat (Croatia) 3.13
2 German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) 3.75
3 Hungarian (Hungary) 3.89
4 Slovenian (Slovenia) 4.09
5 Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 4.44
6 Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 4.45
7 Slovak (Slovakia) 4.51
8 Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 4.68
9 Hungarian (Budapest) 4.81
10 Pole (EastPoland) 5.04
11 Dutch (Netherlands) 5.09
12 Hungarian (WestUkraine) 5.12
13 Czech (Czechia) 5.28
14 German (SouthGermany) 5.31
15 German (Germany) 5.43
16 Austrian (Austria) 5.51
17 Welsh (Wales) 5.52
18 Pole (Wroclaw) 5.76
19 Sorb (Lusatia) 6.04
20 Ukrainians_west (WestUkraine) 6.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.6% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 47.4% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 2.08
2 70.8% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 29.2% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 2.11
3 71.2% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 28.8% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.15
4 72.4% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 27.6% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 2.15
5 78.2% Pole (EastPoland) + 21.8% Italian (Tuscany) @ 2.21
6 57.8% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) + 42.2% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.23
7 81% Croat (Croatia) + 19% English (Kent) @ 2.24
8 71.1% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 28.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.28
9 75.5% Pole (EastPoland) + 24.5% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 2.28
10 68.1% Croat (Croatia) + 31.9% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 2.28
11 82.8% Croat (Croatia) + 17.2% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.3
12 64.1% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 35.9% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 2.3
13 61.4% Pole (EastPoland) + 38.6% Montenegrian (Montenegro) @ 2.31
14 82.8% Croat (Croatia) + 17.2% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 2.32
15 77.7% Croat (Croatia) + 22.3% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 2.33
16 67.2% Pole (EastPoland) + 32.8% Macedonian (Macedonia) @ 2.33
17 84% Croat (Croatia) + 16% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 2.35
18 58.6% Croat (Croatia) + 41.4% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 2.35
19 81.5% Croat (Croatia) + 18.5% English (Cornwall) @ 2.36
20 83.1% Croat (Croatia) + 16.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.36

[Mortimer]

Is the croat fully croat he scores half germanic half croat

[Leto]

Is the croat fully croat he scores half germanic half croat
Those are Feiichy's results.

[Mortimer]

Pictures taken today afternoon what do i look like? 75012
75013
75014

[Mortimer]

She is part german ask her stears said that too and where is a serb
Those are Feiichy's results.

[Leto]

She is part german ask her stears said that too and where is a serb
She still has Croats as a first pop, so she is quite representative. I just took the results from the same thread where I found yours.

[Leto]

My father, also for comparison

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 31.84
2 Steppe 23.11
3 Neolithic 22.05
4 Caucasian 19.63
5 Arctic 1.35
6 Siberian 1.32
7 SouthEastAsian 0.47
8 Indian 0.14
9 Amerindian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) 2.77
2 Pole (WestPoland) 3.81
3 Cossack (Kuban) 4.04
4 Belarusian (Belarus) 4.11
5 Ukrainians_north (NorthUkraine) 4.32
6 Pole (EastPoland) 4.36
7 Pole (Poland) 4.45
8 Ukrainian (Ukraine) 4.58
9 Russian (CentralRussia) 4.66
10 Pole (Wroclaw) 4.96
11 Sorb (Lusatia) 5
12 Swede (Sweden) 5.05
13 Russian (Tver) 5.29
14 Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) 5.31
15 Russian (SouthRussia) 5.32
16 Ukrainians_east (EastUkraine) 5.34
17 Russian_cossack (Kuban) 5.55
18 Slovak (Slovakia) 5.66
19 Ukrainians_west (WestUkraine) 5.79
20 Russian (CentralRussia) 5.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 45.1% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 1.75
2 68.4% Belarusian (Belarus) + 31.6% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2
3 66.3% Pole (Poland) + 33.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.01
4 54.8% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 45.2% Irish (Munster) @ 2.17
5 59.6% Dutch (Netherlands) + 40.4% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) @ 2.18
6 59.5% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 40.5% English (Cornwall) @ 2.19
7 58% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 42% Irish (Connacht) @ 2.23
8 55.9% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 44.1% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.23
9 67.7% Pole (Poland) + 32.3% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.28
10 54.6% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 45.4% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 2.29
11 70.3% Belarusian (Belarus) + 29.7% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.35
12 62.7% Pole (Poland) + 37.3% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 2.42
13 58.2% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 41.8% English (England) @ 2.42
14 64.7% Pole (Poland) + 35.3% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 2.44
15 62.1% Russian (Tver) + 37.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.46
16 83.9% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 16.1% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 2.5
17 86.6% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 13.4% Irish (Munster) @ 2.51
18 85.5% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 14.5% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 2.52
19 89% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 11% English (Cornwall) @ 2.53
20 86.9% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 13.1% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 2.53

[Mortimer]

I dont think that croats score germans as second population i dont think she is truly represantive because she is more northern but slavs will claim yes to be closer to germanics
She still has Croats as a first pop, so she is quite representative. I just took the results from the same thread where I found yours.

[Mortimer]

And what is your conclusion im alot or little
My father, also for comparison

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 31.84
2 Steppe 23.11
3 Neolithic 22.05
4 Caucasian 19.63
5 Arctic 1.35
6 Siberian 1.32
7 SouthEastAsian 0.47
8 Indian 0.14
9 Amerindian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) 2.77
2 Pole (WestPoland) 3.81
3 Cossack (Kuban) 4.04
4 Belarusian (Belarus) 4.11
5 Ukrainians_north (NorthUkraine) 4.32
6 Pole (EastPoland) 4.36
7 Pole (Poland) 4.45
8 Ukrainian (Ukraine) 4.58
9 Russian (CentralRussia) 4.66
10 Pole (Wroclaw) 4.96
11 Sorb (Lusatia) 5
12 Swede (Sweden) 5.05
13 Russian (Tver) 5.29
14 Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) 5.31
15 Russian (SouthRussia) 5.32
16 Ukrainians_east (EastUkraine) 5.34
17 Russian_cossack (Kuban) 5.55
18 Slovak (Slovakia) 5.66
19 Ukrainians_west (WestUkraine) 5.79
20 Russian (CentralRussia) 5.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 45.1% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 1.75
2 68.4% Belarusian (Belarus) + 31.6% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2
3 66.3% Pole (Poland) + 33.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.01
4 54.8% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 45.2% Irish (Munster) @ 2.17
5 59.6% Dutch (Netherlands) + 40.4% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) @ 2.18
6 59.5% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 40.5% English (Cornwall) @ 2.19
7 58% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 42% Irish (Connacht) @ 2.23
8 55.9% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 44.1% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.23
9 67.7% Pole (Poland) + 32.3% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.28
10 54.6% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 45.4% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 2.29
11 70.3% Belarusian (Belarus) + 29.7% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.35
12 62.7% Pole (Poland) + 37.3% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 2.42
13 58.2% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 41.8% English (England) @ 2.42
14 64.7% Pole (Poland) + 35.3% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 2.44
15 62.1% Russian (Tver) + 37.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.46
16 83.9% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 16.1% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 2.5
17 86.6% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 13.4% Irish (Munster) @ 2.51
18 85.5% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 14.5% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 2.52
19 89% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 11% English (Cornwall) @ 2.53
20 86.9% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 13.1% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 2.53

[Leto]

I dont think that croats score germans as second population i dont think she is truly represantive because she is more northern but slavs will claim yes to be closer to germanics
Who said this calculator was the most accurate? The second pop is German Saxony which is Eastern German by the way. I don't claim that Slavs are closer to Germanics, lol, what are you smoking? That's not even my result to begin with.

[Leto]

And what is your conclusion im alot or little
I have not made any conclusion yet. I cannot find your Dodecad K12b results, that calculator is better. I think you should be compared with European/Middle Eastern or South Asian mixes, not with full Europeans, especially Croats and Belorussians. Obviously they've got a lot more white blood than you.

[Mortimer]

I will post it tomorow and write you pm that i did probably my laptop internet will work tomorrow
I have not made any conclusion yet. I cannot find your Dodecad K12b results, that calculator is better. I think you should be compared with European/Middle Eastern or South Asian mixes, not with full Europeans, especially Croats and Belorussians. Obviously they've got a lot more white blood than you.

[Mortimer]

I send you my kit number with pm
I have not made any conclusion yet. I cannot find your Dodecad K12b results, that calculator is better. I think you should be compared with European/Middle Eastern or South Asian mixes, not with full Europeans, especially Croats and Belorussians. Obviously they've got a lot more white blood than you.

[TheMaestro]

I have not made any conclusion yet. I cannot find your Dodecad K12b results, that calculator is better. I think you should be compared with European/Middle Eastern or South Asian mixes, not with full Europeans, especially Croats and Belorussians. Obviously they've got a lot more white blood than you.

+ his closest match is starting at number "Romania" 9. That is incredibly high

[Leto]

Mortimer

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 24.63
2 Caucasus 22.82
3 Atlantic_Med 20.6
4 South_Asian 11.1
5 Gedrosia 10
6 Southwest_Asian 6.99
7 East_Asian 1.62
8 Northwest_African 1.11
9 Southeast_Asian 1.02
10 Sub_Saharan 0.1
11 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 16.65
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 16.74
3 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.53
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.09
5 Greek (Dodecad) 19.78
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.79
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.53
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.74
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.31
10 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 22.49
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.64
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 23.01
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.02
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.04
15 Hungarians (Behar) 26.44
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 26.88
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 27.59
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 28.27
19 Turkish (Dodecad) 28.3
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 28.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 26.6% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 3.21
2 75% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 3.37
3 75.1% Romanians (Behar) + 24.9% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 3.71
4 70.4% Romanians (Behar) + 29.6% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 3.86
5 76.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 23.9% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 4.29
6 77.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.4% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 4.42
7 79.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.4% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 4.44
8 75.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 24.4% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 4.45
9 79.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.3% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 4.52
10 75.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 24.1% Indian (Dodecad) @ 4.54
11 77.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.9% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 4.59
12 78.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 21.7% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 4.59
13 78.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.2% INS30 (SGVP) @ 4.64
14 70.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.5% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 4.7
15 77.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.6% Indian (Dodecad) @ 4.7
16 77.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 22.6% GIH30 (Dodecad) @ 4.71
17 77.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 22.6% INS30 (SGVP) @ 4.72
18 78.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.2% GIH30 (Dodecad) @ 4.73
19 68.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 31.2% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 4.78
20 80.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 19.7% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 4.82

[Leto]

Mortimer is kind of 3/4 Southeastern European, 1/4 South Asian, roughly speaking.

[Jased]

Pakistanis and Afghans for Turkey isn't the same with Mexicans for Spain. She's a native spanish speaker with mostly spanish ancestry, seeks to move there in normal ways and become part of society. Afghans are alien people for Turkey who cross the border illegally. I'm not a racist person at all, and she seems a nice person i think you hurt her feelings for no good reason.

That was very rude of him who he thinks he is to tell me i have no right to visit Southern Spain while his country man are already floating Portugal and many of them are heavily SSA unlike the Mexicans with more Spanish genes are the ones who migrate there like the girl of the video i posted.

Mexicans have two Casas one in Mexico and the other Spain- weather he likes it or not.

[Bobby Martnen]

Those are Feiichy's results.

I wonder why she got banned

[Heather Duval]

https://lh3.ggpht.com/-T9WOEBZCkZA/T_Yk00jVcCI/AAAAAAAAH44/O7NIhRSMWGQ/s258/vivi2.gif

[Sikeliot]

He is less white because he would plot further from Europe on a PCA plot because of all of his South Asian DNA.

[Bobby Martnen]

He is less white because he would plot further from Europe on a PCA plot because of all of his South Asian DNA.

But he has more actual European blood.

To me, that's more important in Whiteness than where you plot.

Just like I am an Anglo-American, despite plotting with Austrians.

[Mortimer]

He is less white because he would plot further from Europe on a PCA plot because of all of his South Asian DNA.

I do plot in Europe though. I dont know if i plut closer or further then sicilians but I plot in Europe.

https://s18.postimg.cc/t4nqbyo2h/newplot_1.png

https://s18.postimg.cc/rcurh2k55/Interpretome_HDGPWorld.jpg