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Tannhauser
07-03-2022, 04:26 AM
Wine Folly - Madeline Puckette & Justin Hammack


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TTRS
07-03-2022, 05:33 AM
Art of War and Mein Kampf

znenammi
07-03-2022, 03:16 PM
Benyzero's philosophically sophisticated posts.

Nurzat
07-03-2022, 03:31 PM
Human Universals
by Donald E. Brown

"A cultural universal (also called an anthropological universal or human universal) is an element, pattern, trait, or institution that is common to all known human cultures worldwide. Taken together, the whole body of cultural universals is known as the human condition. Evolutionary psychologists hold that behaviors or traits that occur universally in all cultures are good candidates for evolutionary adaptations." (Wikipedia)

see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_universal

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JamesBond007
07-04-2022, 09:17 PM
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There is today a crisis in psychiatry. Even the former director of the National Institute of Mental Health, Thomas Insel, has said: “Whatever we’ve been doing for five decades, it ain’t working.” The field requires a completely fresh look, and clinical psychologist Bruce Levine—a man often at odds with his profession—enlists the early Enlightenment philosopher Baruch de Spinoza to help work through the problem. Readers unfamiliar with Spinoza will be intrigued by the modern relevance of his radical philosophical, psychological, and political ideas. Levine compares the radical/moderate divide among Enlightenment thinkers to a similar divergence between contemporary critics of psychiatry, siding historically with Spinoza in order to bring an equivalent intellectual force to bear upon our modern crisis and calling for new forms of free and enlightened thinking.

Review

“Using Spinoza as a foil for exploring contemporary psychiatry is a stroke of genius, and Bruce Levine carries it off with aplomb. His text is clear, brilliant, and utterly original—a critique of contemporary psychiatry like no other. At the same time, it explores a much grander theme: what does it mean to be a ‘free thinker?’ And the final reward for readers is this: by book’s end, they will have ‘fallen in love’ with Baruch Spinoza.”
—Robert Whitaker, author of Anatomy of an Epidemic and Mad in America


"Deep into the 21st century, philosophizing about the power of psychiatry remains arduous, because the doublespeak of mental health suffocates clear thinking. What an exhilarating antidote therefore does Bruce Levine deliver to our weary minding, stimulating it with the ideas and examples of the great freethinker Baruch Spinoza. While many good books assault the fortress of dogmas protecting organized psychiatry, this unique work, by illustrating with wit, graciousness and erudition the power of reason that each of us might employ to dispel obfuscation, inspires."
—David Cohen, co-author of Mad Science


"This ingenious book uses the insights of Spinoza to address some of the tangled issues in mental health. Spinoza's wisdom or 'Reason' reveals how our modern, medicalised approach to mental health problems is riddled with misconceptions and ethical conflicts and points the way to more effective and humane ways of helping people."
—Joanna Moncrieff, author of The Myth of the Chemical Cure

About the Author

Bruce E. Levine is a practicing clinical psychologist and author. His books include Resisting Illegitimate Authority and Surviving America’s Depression Epidemic. He is a regular contributor to CounterPunch, Truthout, and Mad in America, and his articles have been published in the New York Times, Skeptic, Salon, AlterNet, Adbusters, The Ecologist, High Times, and Yes!. Levine is on the editorial advisory board of the journal Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, and he is on the medical and scientific advisory board of the National Center for Youth Law.

JamesBond007
07-07-2022, 10:59 PM
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Psychiatry is a black art; a pseudoscientific confidence trick. Dr Coleman, who has spent over 40 years campaigning for the mentally ill (and has been widely praised for his work by patients, doctors and the British Government),explains why psychiatry is not a science and psychiatrists should not be trusted.

Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA is a general practitioner and the author of over 100 books which have sold over 2 million hardback and paperback copies in the UK and been translated into 25 languages. His books have been bestsellers in the US, the UK and around the world.

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/27804234

Tannhauser
07-10-2022, 07:48 PM
Voltaire's Candide :)

What caught my attention, was a prophetic gesture, Candide arrived at Buenos Aires in the 18th century(which already sounded dystopian to the european ear) and he met the governor/major.
Something done by Charles Darwin in 1833 with Juan Manual de Rosas, BA governor at the time.

JamesBond007
07-21-2022, 04:17 AM
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In an era when more people are taking psychiatric drugs than ever before, Joanna Moncrieff’s explosive book challenges the claims for their mythical powers. Drawing on extensive research, she demonstrates that psychiatric drugs do not ‘treat’ or ‘cure’ mental illness by acting on hypothesised chemical imbalances or other abnormalities in the brain. There is no evidence for any of these ideas. Moreover, any relief the drugs may offer from the distress and disturbance of a mental disorder can come at great cost to people’s physical health and their ability to function in day-to-day life. And, once on these drugs, coming off them can be very difficult indeed. This book is a wake-up call to the potential damage we are doing to ourselves by relying on chemical cures for human distress. Its clear, concise explanations will enable people to make a fully informed decision about the benefits and harms of these drugs and whether and how to come off them if they so choose.

From the author -

The new edition has been completely re-written. It incorporates new knowledge about how psychiatric drugs modify normal brain structure and functioning, often leading to harmful consequences that can be long-lasting. It presents the latest evidence on the pros + cons of using psychiatric drugs in different situations, + current thinking about the adverse effects of drug withdrawal. It provides guidance on how to minimise withdrawal effects in order to come off psychiatric drugs successfully.

Incal
07-30-2022, 08:33 PM
Just started:

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JamesBond007
07-30-2022, 10:45 PM
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A New York Times Science Bestseller

What if you had to take an art class in which you were only taught how to paint a fence? What if you were never shown the paintings of van Gogh and Picasso, weren’t even told they existed? Alas, this is how math is taught, and so for most of us it becomes the intellectual equivalent of watching paint dry.

In Love and Math, renowned mathematician Edward Frenkel reveals a side of math we’ve never seen, suffused with all the beauty and elegance of a work of art. In this heartfelt and passionate book, Frenkel shows that mathematics, far from occupying a specialist niche, goes to the heart of all matter, uniting us across cultures, time, and space.

Love and Math tells two intertwined stories: of the wonders of mathematics and of one young man’s journey learning and living it. Having braved a discriminatory educational system to become one of the twenty-first century’s leading mathematicians, Frenkel now works on one of the biggest ideas to come out of math in the last 50 years: the Langlands Program. Considered by many to be a Grand Unified Theory of mathematics, the Langlands Program enables researchers to translate findings from one field to another so that they can solve problems, such as Fermat’s last theorem, that had seemed intractable before.

At its core, Love and Math is a story about accessing a new way of thinking, which can enrich our lives and empower us to better understand the world and our place in it. It is an invitation to discover the magic hidden universe of mathematics.


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Ylla
08-01-2022, 06:41 PM
Interesting read about children’s language acquisition. It highlights the many ways our children communicate with us, not only verbal. :)
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Pro.crasti.nation
08-01-2022, 07:02 PM
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City of Djinns - A year in Delhi
By William Dalrymple

Decent writer and a subject I enjoy reading about.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
08-03-2022, 01:42 PM
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The Art of War in the Middle Ages by Charles Oman.

gixajo
08-03-2022, 03:33 PM
An interesting and easy read:

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No te había visto éste.:thumb001:

Murió hace poco el hombre, sus entrevistas son especialmente interesantes, muy lúcido incluso poco antes de morir. El pensador español moderno que más claro habla.

Incal
08-03-2022, 03:45 PM
No te había visto éste.:thumb001:

Murió hace poco el hombre, sus entrevistas son especialmente interesantes, muy lúcido incluso poco antes de morir. El pensador español moderno que más claro habla.

En efecto. Cuando acabe el de Chiang, sigo con este:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgl9ZvTjiGE&t=3580s

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
08-08-2022, 09:33 PM
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Northmen: The Viking Saga, AD 793-1241 by John Haywood.

Incal
08-10-2022, 10:18 PM
$$$$$$

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Andullero
08-10-2022, 10:29 PM
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JamesBond007
08-27-2022, 02:51 PM
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For more than two years, author and psychotherapist Gary Greenberg has embedded himself in the war that broke out over the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders—the DSM—the American Psychiatric Association’s compendium of mental illnesses and what Greenberg calls “the book of woe.”.

Since its debut in 1952, the book has been frequently revised, and with each revision, the “official” view on which psychological problems constitute mental illness. Homosexuality, for instance, was a mental illness until 1973, and Asperger’s gained recognition in 1994 only to see its status challenged nearly twenty years later. Each revision has created controversy, but the DSM-5, the newest iteration, has shaken psychiatry to its foundations. The APA has taken fire from patients, mental health practitioners, and former members for extending the reach of psychiatry into daily life by encouraging doctors to diagnose more illnesses and prescribe more therapies—often medications whose efficacy is unknown and whose side effects are severe. Critics—including Greenberg—argue that the APA should not have the naming rights to psychological pain or to the hundreds of millions of dollars the organization earns, especially when even the DSM’s staunchest defenders acknowledge that the disorders listed in the book are not real illnesses.

Greenberg’s account of the history behind the DSM, which has grown from pamphlet-sized to encyclopedic since it was first published, and his behind-the-scenes reporting of the deeply flawed process by which the DSM-5 has been revised, is both riveting and disturbing. Anyone who has received a diagnosis of mental disorder, filed a claim with an insurer, or just wondered whether daily troubles qualify as true illness should know how the DSM turns suffering into a commodity, and the APA into its own biggest beneficiary. Invaluable and informative, The Book of Woe is bound to spark intense debate among expert and casual readers alike.
Review

“[I]ndustrious and perfervid... Mr. Greenberg [argues] that the [DSM] and its authors, the American Psychiatric Association, wield their power arbitrarily and often unwisely, encouraging the diagnosis of too many bogus mental illnesses in patients (binge eating disorder, for example) and too much medication to treat them....Mr. Greenberg argues that psychiatry needs to become more humble, not more certain and aggressive....Greenberg is a fresher, funnier writer. He paces the psychiatric stage as if he were part George Carlin, part Gregory House.”
—Dwight Garner, The New York Times

“Greenberg’s documentation of the DSM-5 revision process is an essential read for practicing and in-training psychotherapists and psychiatrists and is an important contribution to the history of psychiatry.”
—Library Journal

“The rewriting of the bible of psychiatry shakes the field to its foundations in this savvy, searching exposé. Deploying wised-up, droll reportage from the trenches of psychiatric policy-making and caustic profiles of the discipline’s luminaries, Greenberg subjects the practices of the mental health industry—his own included—to a withering critique. The result is a compelling insider’s challenge to psychiatry’s scientific pretensions—and a plea to return it to its humanistic roots.”—Publisher’s Weekly, starred review

“Greenberg is an entertaining guide through the treacheries and valuable instances of the DSM, interviewing members on both sides of the divide and keeping the proceedings conversational even when discussing the manual’s pretensions toward epistemic iteration. He also brings his own practice into [The Book of Woe], with examples of the DSM falling woefully short in capturing the complexity of personality. Bright, humorous and seriously thoroughgoing, Greenberg takes all the DSMs for a spin as revealing as the emperor’s new clothes.”—Kirkus Reviews

“[A] brilliant look at the making of DSM-5...entertaining, biting and essential...Greenberg builds a splendid and horrifying read....[he] shows us vividly that psychiatry’s biggest problem may be a stubborn reluctance to admit its immaturity.”
—David Dobbs, Nature.com

“Gary Greenberg is a thoughtful comedian and a cranky philosopher and a humble pest of a reporter, equal parts Woody Allen, Kierkegaard, and Columbo. The Book of Woe is a profound, and profoundly entertaining, riff on malady, power, and truth. This book is for those of us (i.e., all of us) who've ever wondered what it means, and what's at stake, when we try to distinguish the suffering of the ill from the suffering of the human.”
—Gideon Lewis-Kraus, author of A Sense of Direction

“This could be titled The Book of ... Whoa! An eye-popping look at the unnerving, often tawdry politics of psychiatry.”
—Gene Weingarten, two-time Pulitzer Prize winning author of The Fiddler in the Subway

“Bringing the full force of his wit, warmth, and tenacity to this accessible inside account of the latest revision of psychiatry’s diagnostic bible, Gary Greenberg has written a book to rival the importance of its subject. Keenly researched and vividly reported, The Book of Woe is frank, impassioned, on fire for the truth—and best of all, vigorously, beautifully alive to its story’s human stakes.”
—Michelle Orange, author of This Is Running for Your Life

“Gary Greenberg has become the Dante of our psychiatric age, and the DSM-5 is his Inferno. He guides us through the not-so-divine comedy that results when psychiatrists attempt to reduce our hopelessly complex inner worlds to an arbitrary taxonomy that provides a disorder for everybody. Greenberg leads us into depths that Dante never dreamed of. The Book of Woe is a mad chronicle of so-called madness.”
—Errol Morris, Academy Award–winning director, and author of A Wilderness of Error


“In this gripping, devastating account of psychiatric hubris, Gary Greenberg shows that the process of revising the DSM remains as haphazard and chaotic as ever. His meticulous research into the many failures of DSM-5 will spark concern, even alarm, but in doing so will rule out complacency. The Book of Woe deserves a very wide readership.”
—Christopher Lane, author of Shyness: How Normal Behavior Became a Sickness


“Gary Greenberg’s The Book of Woe is about the DSM in the way that Moby-Dick is about a whale—big-time, but only in part. An engaging history of a profession’s virtual bible, The Book of Woe is also a probing consideration of those psychic depths we cannot know and those social realities we pretend not to know, memorably rendered by a seasoned journalist who parses the complexities with a pickpocket’s eye and a mensch’s heart. If I wanted a therapist, and especially if I wanted to clear my mind of cant, I’d make an appointment with Dr. Greenberg as soon as he could fit me in.”
—Garret Keizer, author of Privacy and The Unwanted Sound of Everything We Want

“The Book of Woe is a brilliant, ballsy excursion into the minefield of modern psychiatry. Greenberg has wit, energy, and a wonderfully skeptical mind. If you want to understand how we think of mental suffering today—and why, and to what effect—read this book.”
—Daniel Smith, author of Monkey Mind

“[Greenberg’s] fascinating history of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (the DSM)...show[s] just how muddled the boundaries of mental health truly are.”
—Chloë Schama, Smithsonian

“Greenberg argues persuasively that the current DSM encourages psychiatrists to reach beyond their competence....I’m impressed by Greenberg’s reporting, his subtlety of thought, his dedication to honesty, and his literacy....a very good book.”
—Benjamin Nugent, Slate.com

“The process of assembling [DSM-5] has been anything but smooth, as The Book of Woe relates....Greenberg argues—persuasively—that this fifth edition of the DSM arises not out of any new scientific understanding but from one of the periodic crises of psychiatry....invaluable.”
—Laura Miller, Salon.com

“In The Book of Woe, Greenberg takes the lay reader through a history of the DSM, which is really a history of psychiatry....[a] fascinating and well-researched account.”
—Suzanne Koven, The Boston Globe

“[E]ngaging, radical and generally delectable...Greenberg is a practicing psychotherapist who writes with the insight of a professional and the panache of a literary journalist....[a] brilliant take-down of the psychiatric profession...The Book of Woe offers a lucid and useful history.”
—Julia M. Klein, The Chicago Tribune

“This is a landmark book about a landmark book....Greenberg paints a picture so compelling and bleak that it could easily send the vulnerable reader into therapy....takes the reader deep inside the secretive world of the panels and personalities that have spent years arguing about which disorders and symptoms they would keep and which they would discard in the new DSM.”
—Robert Epstein, Scientific American



About the Author

Gary Greenberg is a practicing psychotherapist and author of Manufacturing Depression and The Noble Lie. He has written about the intersection of science, politics, and ethics for many publications, including The New Yorker, Wired, Discover, and Rolling Stone. He is a contributor at Mother Jones, and a contributing editor at Harper's. Dr. Greenberg lives with his family in Connecticut

Incal
09-03-2022, 04:51 PM
Pretty didactic. It summarizes everything wrong with the world today:

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Manifest
09-03-2022, 04:56 PM
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Celestia
09-04-2022, 07:29 PM
For Whom the Bell Tolls- Ernest Hemingway

Victor
09-04-2022, 08:00 PM
"Meditations" of Marcus Aurelius

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
09-04-2022, 08:25 PM
The Truth About the Harry Quebert Affair by Joël Dicker.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
09-08-2022, 02:34 PM
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War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy. Volume 1.

lei.talk
09-14-2022, 04:00 PM
Living in the age of Axis internationalism:
Imagining Europe in Serbia
before and during the Second World War (https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/79558834.pdf)


https://i.imgur.com/Q7u9oX5.png (https://archive.org/details/branimir-males-o-ljudskim-rasama-1936)

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.png "prvi put kada me je neki lik klasifikovao..."
...imao sam oko 15 godina, on me je klasifikovao kao "savid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sava)"...
thank you
for mentioning the dinarid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#DINARIC) variety described by božo škerlj (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Božo_Škerlj).


he (like vladimir dvorniković (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?338317-Is-Stears-brachycephalic&p=7029712&viewfull=1#post7029712)) should be remembered in the great conversation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Conversation).


if any one can make a digital copy
of branimir maleš opus on dinarids (https://www.worldcat.org/title/osnovi-biogeneze-i-biodinamike-dinarske-rase/oclc/989156224)
before it vanishes completely...


https://i.imgur.com/upcFxvm.png (https://www.worldcat.org/search?q=au=%22MALES%CC%8C,%20BRANIMIR%22)


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.pngdragansimovic https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://dragansimovic.wordpress.com/) Др БРАНИМИР МАЛЕШ
Најзначајнији међуратни антрополог. Рођен у Далмацији 1898. у српској католичкој породици. Доктор наука. Радио на Београдском универзитету. После Другог светског рата емигрирао у Јужну Америку и наставио научну каријеру. Његове студије о нашим расним типовима и карактерологији су и данас непревазиђене

JamesBond007
09-17-2022, 05:45 AM
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Product Description

The instant Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and international bestseller

“While the history books are filled with tales of obsessive visionary geniuses who remade the world in their image with sheer, almost irrational force, I’ve found that history is also made by individuals who fought their egos at every turn, who eschewed the spotlight, and who put their higher goals above their desire for recognition.” —from the prologue

Many of us insist the main impediment to a full, successful life is the outside world. In fact, the most common enemy lies within: our ego. Early in our careers, it impedes learning and the cultivation of talent. With success, it can blind us to our faults and sow future problems. In failure, it magnifies each blow and makes recovery more difficult. At every stage, ego holds us back.

Ego Is the Enemy draws on a vast array of stories and examples, from literature to philosophy to history. We meet fascinating figures such as George Marshall, Jackie Robinson, Katharine Graham, Bill Belichick, and Eleanor Roosevelt, who all reached the highest levels of power and success by conquering their own egos. Their strategies and tactics can be ours as well.

In an era that glorifies social media, reality TV, and other forms of shameless self-promotion, the battle against ego must be fought on many fronts. Armed with the lessons in this book, as Holiday writes, “you will be less invested in the story you tell about your own specialness, and as a result, you will be liberated to accomplish the world-changing work you’ve set out to achieve.”

About the Author

RYAN HOLIDAY is a bestselling author and media strategist. He dropped out of college at nineteen to apprentice under Robert Greene, author of The 48 Laws of Power, and later served as the director of marketing for American Apparel. His company, Brass Check, has advised clients like Google, TASER, and Complex, as well as many prominent bestselling authors. Holiday has written several other books, including The Obstacle Is the Way, which has been translated into twenty-eight languages and has a cult following among NFL coaches, world-class athletes, TV personalities, political leaders, and others around the world. He lives on a small ranch outside Austin, Texas. Visit www.RyanHoliday.net.

Excerpt. © Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved.

It’s wrecked the career of promising young geniuses.

It’s evaporated great fortunes and run companies into the ground.

It’s made adversity unbearable and turned struggle into shame.

It derails ambition, turns success into poison, and makes failure the most bitter taste of all.

Its name? Ego.

Ego is the enemy—of what you want to achieve, of what you have, and what you’re struggling to overcome.

It’s an internal opponent warned against by every great philosopher, in our most lasting stories and countless works of art, in every culture, in every age.

In the pages of this book, we fight to destroy it before it destroys us.

Batavia
10-03-2022, 11:22 PM
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Jingle Bell
10-03-2022, 11:40 PM
This one, pretty cool and good for read under a tree in a cloudy day
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Incal
10-04-2022, 12:09 AM
Chinese Sci-Fi. I'm pleasantly surprised:

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Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-19-2022, 08:35 PM
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War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy. Volume 2.

Incal
10-29-2022, 06:35 PM
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Celestia
10-29-2022, 06:40 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116100&d=1667068802

Kriptc06
10-29-2022, 06:50 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116101&d=1667069406

Incal
11-04-2022, 08:19 PM
Time to debunk myths:

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Incal
11-13-2022, 05:09 PM
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Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-17-2022, 02:11 PM
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Everest 1922: The Epic Story of the First Attempt on the World's Highest Mountain by Mick Conefrey.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
12-13-2022, 06:33 PM
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The Living Mountain by Nan Shepherd.

Probably one of the last books I will read in 2022. At the beginning of the year I wrote here that I aimed to read at least 100 books. At first I started at a good pace, an average of two to three books a week. Then I slacked off. So far I have read 57 books, far from my goal and just above an average of one book a week. Lets see if in 2023 I can at least surpass 2022's numbers.

Batavia
12-21-2022, 05:53 PM
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Cybele
12-21-2022, 06:35 PM
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Dragoon
01-15-2023, 05:55 AM
Last three read:

Iglesia y Masonaria
Las Dos Ciudades
by Alberto Barcena
(took a while to translate into English, recommended for Spanish users).

Freemasonry and Vatican by Poncins
(recommend for Catholics)

The Lost Keys of Freemasonry by Manly P Hall

Yes they are all same theme.

Ellethwyn
01-16-2023, 02:30 AM
I joined a book club this month. I've never been a part of one before, and am not sure how it works if you cannot tolerate reading the book any longer. The book seemed interesting at first glance, but I am 8 chapters in and want to burn it so badly.

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Brene Brown's commentary on politics ruins this book. Ironically her best point was recognizing political manipulation disguised as empathy to gain power, yet she seems vulnerable to it herself. Its promise to mapping meaningful connection is a lie. This book is full of trend ideologies and political and racial division. It's trash.

catgeorge
01-16-2023, 02:36 AM
Just finished reading Metro 2033 recommended if you like post apocalyptic epic thrillers

Incal
01-17-2023, 02:10 AM
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Marshall Theodore
01-17-2023, 03:58 AM
The Selfish Gene

Incal
01-24-2023, 08:07 PM
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Celestia
02-05-2023, 09:47 PM
I’m not big into World War II books but it was recommended by a friend.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=117227&d=1675637045

Jana
02-05-2023, 09:49 PM
The Art of War by Sun Tzu with commentary

Incal
02-05-2023, 10:21 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoPUuMyX0AMIo7c?format=jpg&name=large

PlattitüdenPaule
02-05-2023, 10:37 PM
https://i.ibb.co/Qb9qV7G/lemmy-white-line-fever-328809013.webp (https://imgbb.com/)

Victor
02-05-2023, 10:40 PM
Interpretations of the Epistles of the Apostle Paul to the Corinthians by fr.Daniel Sysoev

Victor
02-06-2023, 06:39 AM
Just finished reading Metro 2033 recommended if you like post apocalyptic epic thrillers

I remember reading it in summer 2009 or so, it was fun.

qathaliyn
02-06-2023, 08:16 AM
1. Der Mensch (Anatomie und Physiologie)
2. SICHER! B2.1 (Deutsch als Fremdsprache Kursbuch und Arbeitsbuch)
3. VVR Autofahren B (Lehrbuch für die Fahrerlaubnisklasse B)

Good luck to you too, if you read this comment! :thumb001: :D

oszkar07
02-06-2023, 10:52 AM
Face It , autobiography of Debbie Harry.

Cybele
02-06-2023, 02:24 PM
I have two books that I plan to start reading soon. Hope I can understand them properly and finish both, because they seem complex to me.
First one is:
https://i.imgur.com/7UhJvlL.jpg
The author Jean Boboc, was a doctor of medicine and theologian and was preoccupied by the bioethics problem.
Second one is:
https://i.imgur.com/3gfNtxQ.jpg

lei.talk
02-08-2023, 07:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/eXHDepw.jpg (https://www.google.com/search?q=peter+frost+european+hair%2C+eye%2Cand+sk in+color)



https://youtu.be/MfbJwqmc3eg


https://i.imgur.com/8Y5tSSN.png (https://www.youtube.com/@marchofthetitans1129/videos)https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/0kEmAvQ.jpg (https://archive.org/details/@marchofthetitans)

Todesritter
02-09-2023, 02:02 PM
https://aeroscale.net/upload/media/entries/2021-06/08/868-entry-1-1623182896.jpg

Hexachordia
02-09-2023, 02:28 PM
Essential Writtings Of Sri Aurobindo

Edited by Peter Heehs

Oxford India Paperbacks.



Sri Aurobindo is an interesting guy what he proposes as nationalist spiritualism is an inspiring part.

Cynewise
02-09-2023, 03:33 PM
https://i.ibb.co/bBWS1RR/D90253.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

jouissances
02-09-2023, 11:28 PM
Freud Psychopathology of everyday life

Incal
02-10-2023, 10:04 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Foo_LsiXsAU76sU?format=jpg&name=large

hurtuv
02-26-2023, 02:21 AM
(en) Daily Meditations by Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZqkV0ydG/IMG-20230226-014858.jpg (https://postimg.cc/9DpGn01b)



Apart from that, I'd also like to share something else, that is not a book.
Once, some years back, I got quite captivated in reading a certain thread on the shroomery.org forum...

https://i.postimg.cc/JDfsYCXM/shroomery-thumbnail-2.png (https://postimg.cc/JDfsYCXM)

...,which consists a colourful and well written account by a forum member (and follow up by other members), of the forum's annual Northeast gathering of 2005, in Ohio;
where members from all over the US and Canada get together for a week of camping in the woods and doing their thing.

"There and Back Again: A Shroomerites Tale"

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4337405/fpart/1/vc/1
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4337405/fpart/1/vc/1


https://i.postimg.cc/K4QX5Dhs/shroomery-gathering-pinata.jpg (https://postimg.cc/K4QX5Dhs)

I did not know the forum, I must have discovered it somewhat randomly, but personally found it to be an extremely entertaining and extremely immersive read, like a good short story. I was visualizing it all in my head, like a movie.

I liked it so much that, after I read it the first time, and then proceeded to loose track of its web whereabouts, I didn't give up on trying to find it again for years, like some cool song you heard on the radio as a kid, until I recently finally found it and thoroughly rejoiced at reading it again.

The character descriptions, the inside jokes, the accounts of contact with the Divine, the photos that adorn the story... what a non-fiction blast. ♥

This girl who's the author has a tallent for writing, as many others have pointed out.


God, this Shroomery forum...
we ain't got shit on them. :lol00002::lol00002:

Daco Celtic
03-01-2023, 06:46 AM
https://i.imgur.com/5M6DtKj.jpg

Incal
03-14-2023, 12:29 AM
To understand the forum better:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrIswm7XwAET8wh?format=jpg&name=large

Jingle Bell
03-14-2023, 01:15 AM
Now im reading "Sapiens", after that i will read Nietzche prob

Hexachordia
03-14-2023, 02:03 AM
Le Rouge et Le Noir

Stendhal

Le Livre de Poche

Creoda
03-21-2023, 08:38 AM
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.dZfHojgiMYm-hfURgS92fQAAAA?pid=ImgDet&rs=1

rothaer
03-21-2023, 04:29 PM
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.dZfHojgiMYm-hfURgS92fQAAAA?pid=ImgDet&rs=1

She's a Jewess. It doesn't stand against her. Just maybe think of it where it may be of relevance. Regardless of this I heard postive feed back regarding her books, including from my mother.

rothaer
03-21-2023, 04:33 PM
"Die Langobarden" by Stefan Esders from the very good and respected series "Beck Wissen". I observed that undertaking since some years and it now was published on the 15th of March 2023 and I immediately bought it.

https://www.thalia.de/shop/home/artikeldetails/A1066780968?ProvID=11000533&gclid=CjwKCAjwq-WgBhBMEiwAzKSH6AYfGJ7Xv5DzaBjCGFnC4abHvqpO2BU2cxN-eH1I1wIyD5X-lvYnJhoCvMYQAvD_BwE

This series is pretty odd and an interesting approach. All books have 127 or 128 pages only. The authors are selected by the respected publisher to only be the most recognized experts and on the other hand all footnotes with sources etc. are refrained from (sic). An interesting policy but I can report that also as a very critical reader I never had any serious complaints about products from this series that comprises of many hundreds of books.

Colonel Frank Grimes
03-25-2023, 04:01 PM
She's a Jewess. It doesn't stand against her. Just maybe think of it where it may be of relevance. Regardless of this I heard postive feed back regarding her books, including from my mother.

What's more relevant than being Jewish is that she's not a historian. If she was a suburban housewife who wrote about WW1 would anyone have cared? There is a benefit to being born in one family instead of another.

The Fall by Camus. I'm trying to read more fiction.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41fTgRUHrGL._SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_FMwebp_.jp g

Jingle Bell
03-25-2023, 04:53 PM
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/814qgOHjuNL.jpg
Ecce Homo, first time reading Nietzsche.

Token
03-25-2023, 05:18 PM
[IMG]https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/814qgOHjuNL.jpg[/IMG
Ecce Homo, first time reading Nietzsche.

Ecce Homo is the worst possible book to start reading Nietzsche. Try Beyond Good and Evil or On the Genealogy of Morality.

Jingle Bell
03-25-2023, 05:54 PM
Ecce Homo is the worst possible book to start reading Nietzsche. Try Beyond Good and Evil or On the Genealogy of Morality.

Im going to speak in portuguese just to dont express myself badly

Foi a recomendação de um amigo, eu já possuía interesse em filosofia, principalmente no existencialismo de Nietzsche e Arthur S. mas eu tinha tanto preguiça tanto quanto tinha "medo"; me indicaram Ecce Homo porque haviam me dito que era uma biografia, então seria uma sintese do pensamento de Nietzsche e seria mais fácil p'ra um leigo como eu tentar dar seu primeiro salto em direção ao pensamento dele, mas eu concordo com você, agora que já li uma boa parte do livro, ele constantemente referencia livros antigos dele (Principalmente Zaratustra) e se você nunca tiver lido os outro sé realmente complicado saber do que ele está se referindo, constantemente tenho de pesquisar um conceito ou outro já que para mim parece que ao ler ecce Homo (O ultimo livro dele) fica subentendido que você já leu os outros livros dele, eu comprei também Crepúsculo dos Ídolos, porém falta chegar aqui a encomenda.
Mas muito obrigado pela sugestão, o Tongio também me indicou Genealogia da Moral, acho que eu deveria ter ouvido mais opiniões antes de comprar estes livros . . .mas bem, só se aprende errando n'é? Ao menos sei qual começar agora, agradeço pelo aviso imensamente

Token
03-25-2023, 06:37 PM
Im going to speak in portuguese just to dont express myself badly

Foi a recomendação de um amigo, eu já possuía interesse em filosofia, principalmente no existencialismo de Nietzsche e Arthur S. mas eu tinha tanto preguiça tanto quanto tinha "medo"; me indicaram Ecce Homo porque haviam me dito que era uma biografia, então seria uma sintese do pensamento de Nietzsche e seria mais fácil p'ra um leigo como eu tentar dar seu primeiro salto em direção ao pensamento dele, mas eu concordo com você, agora que já li uma boa parte do livro, ele constantemente referencia livros antigos dele (Principalmente Zaratustra) e se você nunca tiver lido os outro sé realmente complicado saber do que ele está se referindo, constantemente tenho de pesquisar um conceito ou outro já que para mim parece que ao ler ecce Homo (O ultimo livro dele) fica subentendido que você já leu os outros livros dele, eu comprei também Crepúsculo dos Ídolos, porém falta chegar aqui a encomenda.
Mas muito obrigado pela sugestão, o Tongio também me indicou Genealogia da Moral, acho que eu deveria ter ouvido mais opiniões antes de comprar estes livros . . .mas bem, só se aprende errando n'é? Ao menos sei qual começar agora, agradeço pelo aviso imensamente

Além de ele assumir que você já conhece as outras obras dele, o estilo de escrita no Ecce Homo é bem mais truncado que nos outros livros do Nietzsche. Alguns até veem indícios da insanidade que o levaria a morte na forma difusa e tresloucada como ele se expressa no Ecce Homo.

Geralmente recomendam o Sobre a Genealogia da Moral porque ele é um dos poucos livros do Nietzsche que apresenta uma proposta clara que é seguida do início ao fim da obra, além de ser o magnum opus absoluto do autor. Os outros livros, em sua maioria aforísticos, "atiram para todos os lados" e acabam confundindo os não iniciados. O Crepúsculo dos Ídolos também segue uma linha de ensaio mas vai assumir que você tenha pelo menos alguma familiaridade com a filosofia grega e clássica e com o método genealógico.

Smeagol
03-25-2023, 06:48 PM
Stephen Ambrose's biography of Richard Nixon.

DraviXi99
03-25-2023, 08:12 PM
Ecce Homo is the worst possible book to start reading Nietzsche. Try Beyond Good and Evil or On the Genealogy of Morality.

But beyond good and evil is also not really the best,try the AntiChrist.

lei.talk
03-31-2023, 10:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png

My whole life can be summed up as this ceaseless effort of mine to persuade other people. (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/139926/hitlers-charisma-by-laurence-rees/9780307389589/excerpt)

capocannoniere
03-31-2023, 11:40 PM
Bought "A Season With Verona", as the title says, it's a journalist that makes a 430 page long book of his experience with the supporters of Hellas Verona, a small football team from Veneto. Really looking forward for its arrival, it's a book predestined to me xD

Occiput in Starlight
04-01-2023, 12:40 AM
The Rise of Norids in Central Europe (fifth edition)

by Weissberg, Oberleitner & Halperin

nittionia
04-01-2023, 01:26 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Jtooa45.jpg

Dick
04-01-2023, 05:12 AM
https://youtu.be/gkjG_x1fvhI

Occiput in Starlight
04-01-2023, 05:27 AM
I will post some books I purchased yesterday. But first I will make a salad from yogurt, garlic and cucumber.

Todesritter
04-01-2023, 07:37 AM
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2Fimages%2Fg%2FmkAA AOSwDHNe~e9e%2Fs-l640.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=9093c180607e2c19c8d5aa956371601771e4856afbc23b 4f1d0f056653dbe834&ipo=images

Currently doing a re-reading and chapter by chapter analysis with my best friend. And yes, I have the 1977 original first British edition, hardcover with wrap and fold-out map of Beleriand... Ladies, I'm still single if you're interested.

Smeagol
04-01-2023, 07:55 PM
The Rise of Norids in Central Europe (fifth edition)

by Weissberg, Oberleitner & Halperin

A true classic.

Occiput in Starlight
04-01-2023, 08:10 PM
A true classic.

Agreed.

Have you read,

Greatest Migration: The Iberian Colonization of the British Isles

Davidovsky, Bustamante, Stern

Smeagol
04-01-2023, 08:12 PM
Agreed.

Have you read,

Greatest Migration: The Iberian Colonization of the British Isles

Davidovsky, Bustamante, Stern

I can't say I have, unfortunately. I tried to get a copy but since it's been out of print for so long, they're going for like $300 used.

Occiput in Starlight
04-01-2023, 08:16 PM
I can't say I have, unfortunately. I tried to get a copy but since it's been out of print for so long, they're going for like $300 used.

Hehe I stole my copy.

You were right about, Berids in Iberian Folklore: Masters of Magic, by Himmelblau, Patel et al - it flowed really well.

Batavia
04-08-2023, 12:21 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/FKCqCL4Z/zz7.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/yxHTL1kj/zz8.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/TwqbYr3j/zz9.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Occiput in Starlight
04-11-2023, 10:06 PM
Spanish Shift Over Twelve Fishermen of Luzon

Haas, Mancuso, De Luca et al

lei.talk
04-14-2023, 07:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png

https://i.imgur.com/ncIfBA2.png (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2942502/pdf/eugenrev00337-0045.pdf)
https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png


https://i.imgur.com/U33uaAz.png (https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Alfred_Mj%C3%B8en)https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png

PierreUno
04-14-2023, 08:02 PM
I never really listened or watched much Alex Jones but he has been studying this stuff for decades so the WEF/Davos, Schwab, and Hararri basically unwittingly set him up to write his masterpiece or the best book perhaps on the subject for the masses :


https://i.postimg.cc/653JhFBM/jones.webp

unironically w/ wifi off or airplane mode on permanently :

https://img.grouponcdn.com/stores/43d6MrwLZonkRQkrXZc4sAUAEYZV/storespi30061345-1667x1000/v1/c870x524.jpg

Occiput in Starlight
04-15-2023, 08:29 AM
Gracile Mediterranids in Gladiatorial Combat


- Sjöberg , Backhaus et Stankevičius

Occiput in Starlight
04-16-2023, 09:54 AM
From a Hellenistic Prison: Emergence of an African Queen (Third Edition)

- Petkov et Okada

Occiput in Starlight
04-16-2023, 11:50 PM
Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus (hardcover)

- Sadeghi et Kafelnikov

Cybele
04-17-2023, 10:34 PM
https://i.imgur.com/QkCp4vh.jpg

gixajo
04-17-2023, 10:47 PM
Re-reading "A Study in Scarlet", by Arthur Conan Doyle, of course.:)

bvnny
04-17-2023, 11:05 PM
I'm currently reading "Reading the Muslim Mind", by Hassan Hathout

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/614NO8Uhh+L.jpg

My godmother gave it to me after gaining it upon her visit to a mosque in South-Brazil.

Occiput in Starlight
04-21-2023, 12:54 AM
Dinaric Shadow People

- John Radulovic

--

About a Serbian American man's experience of drug induced psychosis and how he eventually managed to get a grip on his crack cocaine use.

Daco Celtic
04-21-2023, 02:32 AM
Dinaric Shadow People

- John Radulovic

--

About a Serbian American man's experience of drug induced psychosis and how he eventually managed to get a grip on his crack cocaine use.

I couldn't put it down

Occiput in Starlight
04-21-2023, 02:41 AM
I couldn't put it down

His serving them thick, dark coffee a few times a day was the creepiest detail for me.

NSXD60
04-21-2023, 03:05 AM
None, I'm awaiting the sequel to 1984, thinking Orwell's heirs might consider calling it someting like 80 Year Old Spoor.

lei.talk
05-01-2023, 09:54 PM
https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png

click-on this image to read his book
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Alexander_Winchell_Preadamites.png (https://archive.org/details/adamitesandprea01wincgoog/page/n26/mode/1up?q=inferiority)
https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.pngRudolf Virchow https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Virchow#Anthropology_and_prehistory_biology ) All attempts to transform our problems into doctrines, to introduce our theories as the bases of a plan of education [as Haeckel had proposed (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?60395-Race-maps&p=4551659&viewfull=1#post4551659)], particularly the attempt simply to depose the Church, and to replace its dogma by a religion of descent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_evolution#Taxonomy), these attempts, I say, must fail. Therefore, let us be moderate; let us exercise resignation, so that we give even the most treasured problems which we put forth, always as problems only, and that we say it a hundred and again a hundred times : Do not take this for confirmed truth — be prepared that, perhaps, this may be changed. . . .Only ten years ago, when a skull was found, perhaps in peat, or in lake dwellings, or in some old cave, it was believed that marks of a wild and quite undeveloped state were seen in it. Indeed, we were then scenting monkey-air; but this has died out more and more .... But I must say that one fossil monkey skull or man ape skull which really belonged to a human proprietor has never been found. We cannot teach, we cannot designate it as a revelation of science, that man descends from the ape, or from any other animal.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
06-14-2023, 02:22 PM
https://i.imgur.com/uGAjtC5.jpg

Incal
06-14-2023, 04:11 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FymHznCXgAAI6a2?format=jpg&name=large

Batavia
06-20-2023, 08:29 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/fWjRMh66/R-27.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/7ZL6BQtj/R-26.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XpT4qxbg)

Occiput in Starlight
06-20-2023, 08:49 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXphLgnHJhyIqVx0llHWmeLu1NUmDKI etqhw&usqp=CAU

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
07-02-2023, 02:33 PM
https://i.imgur.com/OVmbTq3.jpg

Incal
07-02-2023, 04:16 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0C1hFcXgAAZ-O-?format=jpg&name=large

Nurzat
07-02-2023, 04:24 PM
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41Drwt18XtL.jpg

and

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/Profit_Over_People.jpg

Incal
07-08-2023, 10:36 PM
Latest booty:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0Yk-RLXwAA3LDZ?format=jpg&name=large

Andullero
07-09-2023, 12:00 AM
121984

Part 4 of this series:

A Dream of Eagles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dream_of_Eagles)

Can't recommend the series enough. Thumbs up.

InmostLight
07-09-2023, 01:16 AM
Man and His Symbols by Carl Jung. This man had to become an expert to reveal truths that girls understand intuitively when they're like 14

Your Old Comrade
07-10-2023, 09:01 PM
Mijn strijd - Adolf Hitler.

Not exactly my favourite, but still interesting.

Occiput in Starlight
07-13-2023, 06:53 AM
I got Bullet Park (John Cheever) today.

ugochaves
07-13-2023, 07:14 AM
Mijn strijd - Adolf Hitler.

Not exactly my favourite, but still interesting.
Better read the work of Karl Marx
https://i.ibb.co/8bWvWCW/6141723149.jpg (https://ibb.co/2SDVD9D)

Zeno
07-13-2023, 10:27 AM
A lot at the same time:

The Count of Monte Christo, by Alexander Dumas, Brothers Karamazov by Dostoyevsky and the soon enough, for research purposes the entirety of Karl Marx's The Capital.

Victor
07-24-2023, 07:06 PM
"People's Monarchy" by Ivan Solonevich

Your Old Comrade
07-24-2023, 07:11 PM
Better read the work of Karl Marx
https://i.ibb.co/8bWvWCW/6141723149.jpg (https://ibb.co/2SDVD9D)

They will come later.

Right now:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41Oe2lvqQuL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg

A Theory of Justice - by John Rawls.

Incal
07-24-2023, 09:24 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F11OzFlXoAQd53p?format=jpg&name=large

Sheppey
07-24-2023, 10:57 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/YCDtXfmM/ai.jpg


https://youtu.be/v5p5USQhEyY

Incal
07-28-2023, 01:33 AM
Todays booty (book fest open here):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2Ffo4cXgAEutol?format=jpg&name=large

Batavia
07-30-2023, 03:42 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/s2K49BTn/OIP-29.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/tJndjBpf/OIP-30.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Creoda
08-05-2023, 08:38 PM
Empire by Niall Ferguson.

Good stuff.

Smeagol
08-06-2023, 05:30 AM
Conquest of Civilization by James Henry Breasted.

TheForeigner
08-06-2023, 06:03 AM
Cleopatra’s Last Dream by famous French writer and egyptologist Christian Jacq, a historical fiction novel that tells the story of Cleopatra's ascension to the throne and her love affair with Caesar.

https://www.librariilealexandria.ro/image/cache/catalog/produse/carti/Beletristic%C4%83/ultimul-vis-al-cleopatrei-all-480x480.png

Budimir
08-08-2023, 11:46 PM
Empire by Niall Ferguson.

Good stuff.

You're so predicable wannabe Englishman, reptilian really. That book is more confirmation bias BS by a pro-Brexit nitwit and more "Muh England was great" for your pooh tooth English self-esteem project. You are only as good as what you are now and England is going to shit due to uneducated myopic dunces like yourself. You're too dumb and prideful to learn.

Your relishing in past glory is so pathetic. You are probably too much of an intellectual coward to read a book that challenges your thoughts and too much of a coward to respond to me directly. Keep hiding behind mommy Grace's apron.

Creoda
08-09-2023, 12:59 AM
You're so predicable wannabe Englishman, reptilian really. That book is more confirmation bias BS by a pro-Brexit nitwit and more "Muh England was great" for your pooh tooth English self-esteem project. You are only as good as what you are now and England is going to shit due to uneducated myopic dunces like yourself. You're too dumb and prideful to learn.

Your relishing in past glory is so pathetic. You are probably too much of an intellectual coward to read a book that challenges your thoughts and too much of a coward to respond to me directly. Keep hiding behind mommy Grace's apron.
I'm glad I make you so mad with what I read, obsessed loser :lol:

As for Ferguson, he is largely fair and balanced. I guess reality has a British bias.

Budimir
08-09-2023, 05:12 AM
I'm glad I make you so mad with what I read, obsessed loser :lol:

As for Ferguson, he is largely fair and balanced. I guess reality has a British bias.

I'm very outraged by your bad choices in literature. Someone has to put a stop to it for your own good.

Now "fair and balanced" means as much as Rupert Murdoch's anus. That's where you get your information and vocabulary - from a bogan media propagandist. Ferguson is a shitty professor. The funniest part is that he came out and admitted Brexit was a mistake after supporting it. Maybe you can learn from him my stubborn Irishman.

What a dick btw:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/1/17417042/niall-ferguson-stanford-emails

Rogan
08-09-2023, 06:01 AM
Philosophical Investigations by Ludwig Wittgenstein

Laly
08-10-2023, 07:22 PM
Today, I went to the library in order to borrow books on Wagner and opera, to prepare myself to go to the Bayreuth opera festival, in Germany, later this month. This festival was founded by Wagner himself. :)

https://i.imgur.com/k8bFrOS.jpg

Loki
08-10-2023, 08:03 PM
You're so predicable wannabe Englishman, reptilian really. That book is more confirmation bias BS by a pro-Brexit nitwit and more "Muh England was great" for your pooh tooth English self-esteem project. You are only as good as what you are now and England is going to shit due to uneducated myopic dunces like yourself. You're too dumb and prideful to learn.

Your relishing in past glory is so pathetic. You are probably too much of an intellectual coward to read a book that challenges your thoughts and too much of a coward to respond to me directly. Keep hiding behind mommy Grace's apron.

Totally uncalled for outburst in this peaceful thread. You can be glad I didn't ban you. Next time I will.

Rafael Passoni
08-11-2023, 01:13 AM
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/hitchhiker-s-guide-douglas-adams-657242_451_700.jpg

Andullero
08-11-2023, 01:16 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/TheFortAtRiversBend.jpg

bc76
08-19-2023, 02:07 AM
This one

Your Old Comrade
08-19-2023, 10:26 PM
Oorlog en vrede - Lev Tolstoj.

David_Ball
08-25-2023, 09:11 AM
So what book are you currently reading?

I'm reading Hrafnkel's Saga & Other Stories right now.

Reading takes a lot of time. If you are a student and you want to find information (https://samplius.com/) on how to do this quite easily, then use samplius


Now I`m reading wicher. That`s great book

Incal
09-10-2023, 06:17 PM
Pretty didactic:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5N_2X_WMAMy1yS?format=jpg&name=large

lei.talk
09-10-2023, 08:22 PM
What are we waiting for, assembled in the forum?


The barbarians are due here today.


Why isn’t anything going on in the senate?
Why are the senators sitting there without legislating?


Because the barbarians are coming today.
What’s the point of senators making laws now?
Once the barbarians are here, they’ll do the legislating.


Why did our emperor get up so early,
and why is he sitting enthroned at the city’s main gate,
in state, wearing the crown?


Because the barbarians are coming today
and the emperor’s waiting to receive their leader.
He’s even got a scroll to give him,
loaded with titles, with imposing names.


Why have our two consuls and praetors come out today
wearing their embroidered, their scarlet togas?
Why have they put on bracelets with so many amethysts,
rings sparkling with magnificent emeralds?
Why are they carrying elegant canes
beautifully worked in silver and gold?


Because the barbarians are coming today
and things like that dazzle the barbarians.


Why don’t our distinguished orators turn up as usual
to make their speeches, say what they have to say?


Because the barbarians are coming today
and they’re bored by rhetoric and public speaking.


Why this sudden bewilderment, this confusion?
(How serious people’s faces have become.)
Why are the streets and squares emptying so rapidly,
everyone going home lost in thought?


Because night has fallen and the barbarians haven't come.
And some of our men just in from the border say
there are no barbarians any longer.


Now what’s going to happen to us without barbarians?
Those people were a kind of solution. (https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/97/11/02/home/coetzee-barbarians.html)



https://i.imgur.com/tDUkon5.png (https://www.google.com/search?q=waiting+for+the+barbarians+coetzee)


https://i.imgur.com/VB9i3Tp.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._M._Coetzee)https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png

rothaer
09-10-2023, 08:47 PM
An Asterix comic "De Spökenkieker" in Low German. After a 12 yo son of mine announced wanting to learn Low German I pulled that comic out from my shelf, showed him and he is excited to start reading that tomorrow.

https://i.imgur.com/nYZr1Ps.jpg

There are actually a number of Asterix editions in various German dialects. The spelling is essentially arbitrary and just supportive of how it sounds. The High German dialects have never been written and the Low German dialects have been written from time to time but are also not uniform in their spellings. There has never been an agreement on any spelling.

Victor
09-10-2023, 08:55 PM
"Days", "1920" and "Years" by Vassily Shulgin.

Laly
09-11-2023, 10:48 AM
An Asterix comic "De Spökenkieker" in Low German. After a 12 yo son of mine announced wanting to learn Low German I pulled that comic out from my shelf, showed him and he is excited to start reading that tomorrow.

https://i.imgur.com/nYZr1Ps.jpg

There are actually a number of Asterix editions in various German dialects. The spelling is essentially arbitrary and just supportive of how it sounds. The High German dialects have never been written and the Low German dialects have been written from time to time but are also not uniform in their spellings. There has never been an agreement on any spelling.

Lovely! :)

And thank you for your very interesting explanations!

rothaer
09-11-2023, 11:06 AM
Lovely! :)

And thank you for your very interesting explanations!

I myself suffer a little bit from being derooted regionally, but the mother of this son of mine is an indigenous to Mecklenburg "peasant daughter". I support all sticking to the roots and so I do for this son of mine. His maternal great-grandparents did speak Low German only among themselves but neither his grandmother nor his mother are speaking Low German actively. As the foreseen heir of the family farm of my wife, I told my son that he must speak Low German as well. And he agreed to that. We'll start with "De Spökenkieker". :p

Laly
09-12-2023, 08:10 PM
I myself suffer a little bit from being derooted regionally, but the mother of this son of mine is an indigenous to Mecklenburg "peasant daughter". I support all sticking to the roots and so I do for this son of mine. His maternal great-grandparents did speak Low German only among themselves but neither his grandmother nor his mother are speaking Low German actively. As the foreseen heir of the family farm of my wife, I told my son that he must speak Low German as well. And he agreed to that. We'll start with "De Spökenkieker". :p

Dear rothaer, what do you mean exactly, when you say you feel “derooted regionally”? Your children are very lucky to have you as their father, as you provide them such a good education, cultivation, in accordance with the family roots. That’s so cool if your son is ready to become a farmer and that he wants to learn Low German! Is it easy to find Low German courses, by the way? It’s interesting, because Dutch is also Low German, but the word used is very different from “De Spökenkieker”, as it is “De ziener”.

rothaer
09-12-2023, 08:32 PM
Dear rothaer, what do you mean exactly, when you say you feel “derooted regionally”? Your children are very lucky to have you as their father, as you provide them such a good education, cultivation, in accordance with the family roots. That’s so cool if your son is ready to become a farmer and that he wants to learn Low German! Is it easy to find Low German courses, by the way? It’s interesting, because Dutch is also Low German, but the word used is very different from “De Spökenkieker”, as it is “De ziener”.

With derooted regionally I meant that my ancestry is essentially widely spread over Eastern and Central Germany and the biggest proportions I have from a specific area is 1/8 only. I have that two times and all other ancestries are geographically even more fragmented. My wife has 8/8 ancestry from one specific rural area.

I've not yet looked for a Low German course. They had Low German in the gymnasium where I live but they just cancelled it this year as the interest was not sufficient for maintaing a class.

The translations are unfortunately not always with the etymological correspondig word. The Standard High German title of that book is "Der Seher" so it's the same like in Dutch. But there's also an edition of that book in the Vienna dialect with the title "Da Woasoga". Maybe you can sense that that's "Der Wahrsager" in Standard High German.

https://i.imgur.com/j74UOcl.jpg

Laly
09-12-2023, 08:53 PM
With derooted regionally I meant that my ancestry is essentially widely spread over Eastern and Central Germany and the biggest proportions I have from a specific area is 1/8 only. I have that two times and all other ancestries are geographically even more fragmented. My wife has 8/8 ancestry from one specific rural area.

I've not yet looked for a Low German course. They had Low German in the gymnasium where I live but they just cancelled it this year as the interest was not sufficient for maintaing a class.

The translations are unfortunately not always with the etymological correspondig word. The Standard High German title of that book is "Der Seher" so it's the same like in Dutch. But there's also an edition of that book in the Vienna dialect with the title "Da Woasoga". Maybe you can sense that that's "Der Wahrsager" in Standard High German.

https://i.imgur.com/j74UOcl.jpg

As I understand, Low German is not standardised. Do you think it would be a good thing, for the vitality of the language, for its attractiveness, to standardise it? I feel that maybe there would be more speakers, but its richness would be lost. I am thinking here about a language like Luxembourgish, which was standardised only in 1976 and which acquired then a real status of national language.

rothaer
09-12-2023, 10:19 PM
As I understand, Low German is not standardised. Do you think it would be a good thing, for the vitality of the language, for its attractiveness, to standardise it? I feel that maybe there would be more speakers, but its richness would be lost.

A good question. As the "life" of Low German is anyhow likely performed 98% verbally a standardisation of the spelling would hardly have an importance. If you mean to standardize the spoken Low German it would mean to start lecturing 80% of those few who speak Low German that they are speaking "wrongly". This would not exactly be encouraging. In the same manner a standardisation of the spelling would declare 90% of all written Low German incorrect and there are not much new texts emerging. At the bottom line I think that would not be helpful for preservation.


I am thinking here about a language like Luxembourgish, which was standardised only in 1976 and which acquired then a real status of national language.

I'm not yet sure what's the effect of that. Will it help preserving the local dialect? My doubts are whether that at all is a help. Consider that Bavarian f. i. does not need anything like that for being preserved. They simply pronounce the Standard High German text their way. It's the same like when a Viennese pronounces "Der Wahrsager" like "Da Woasoga". If you now would seriously introduce a spelling like "Da Woasoga" in Vienna, it would imply that "Der Wahrsager" is then not anymore pronounced "Da Woasoga". So such a thing could even lead to the opposite, i. e. a decline of the usage of the local dialect.

I don't know how this has turned out in Luxembourg. While people earlier likely pronounced all German in their moselfränkisch way, they today maybe think that Moselfränkisch is not German and they maybe now restrict their moselfränkisch pronounciation to the situations when they do have a Lëtzebuergesch spelled text. Maybe you can assess how that is.

(The 1976 created Lëtzebuergesch spelling was essentially an anti-German measure in order to separate from the common Nation of Germans. But that's another story.)

Laly
09-13-2023, 08:06 AM
A good question. As the "life" of Low German is anyhow likely performed 98% verbally a standardisation of the spelling would hardly have an importance. If you mean to standardize the spoken Low German it would mean to start lecturing 80% of those few who speak Low German that they are speaking "wrongly". This would not exactly be encouraging. In the same manner a standardisation of the spelling would declare 90% of all written Low German incorrect and there are not much new texts emerging. At the bottom line I think that would not be helpful for preservation.



I'm not yet sure what's the effect of that. Will it help preserving the local dialect? My doubts are whether that at all is a help. Consider that Bavarian f. i. does not need anything like that for being preserved. They simply pronounce the Standard High German text their way. It's the same like when a Viennese pronounces "Der Wahrsager" like "Da Woasoga". If you now would seriously introduce a spelling like "Da Woasoga" in Vienna, it would imply that "Der Wahrsager" is then not anymore pronounced "Da Woasoga". So such a thing could even lead to the opposite, i. e. a decline of the usage of the local dialect.

I don't know how this has turned out in Luxembourg. While people earlier likely pronounced all German in their moselfränkisch way, they today maybe think that Moselfränkisch is not German and they maybe now restrict their moselfränkisch pronounciation to the situations when they do have a Lëtzebuergesch spelled text. Maybe you can assess how that is.

(The 1976 created Lëtzebuergesch spelling was essentially an anti-German measure in order to separate from the common Nation of Germans. But that's another story.)

I agree with you.

According to the Germanic idea, viewpoint, the nation, defined greatly as a linguistic community (Volkstum), is a prerequisite for a Sate. But in the case of Luxembourg, we could say that the State was there before the language and the consciousness of a national identity. The advent of the Luxembourgish language is not spontaneous, but the reflection of an identitarian assertion. Luxembourg has always been a multilingual country, but sharing languages with adjacent countries, from which it wanted to distinguish.

Luxembourgish itself has strong French and Walloon influences too. I find it somewhat funny that there are many composed words – in a very Germanic way – that are made with both Germanic and French words, like in the following examples:

“Fussballsterrain” is “football pitch”.

“Bréifboîte” is “letterbox”.

There was in Luxembourg a Westmoselfränkisch linguistic continuum, mostly an oral language, but in the context of the establishment of a Luxembourgish language, it is the variety of the capital and the Alzette valley that was chosen.

The Luxembourgish language is still in the process of standardisation, and there are regularly new rules that are established. There’s a very important government’s official in Luxembourg, the Commissaire fir d'Lëtzebuerger Sprooch / Commissaire à la langue luxembourgeoise, whose role is to put in place projects in order to promote and to standardize Luxembourgish.

Regnera
09-13-2023, 08:32 AM
This one
https://products-images.di-static.com/image/joanot-martorell-tirant-le-blanc/9782070751099-475x500-1.jpg
Certainly,I read the Chinese translation.

rothaer
09-13-2023, 09:00 AM
I agree with you.

According to the Germanic idea, viewpoint, the nation, defined greatly as a linguistic community (Volkstum), is a prerequisite for a Sate. But in the case of Luxembourg, we could say that the State was there before the language and the consciousness of a national identity.

Already Walther von der Vogelweide (b. abt. 1170) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_von_der_Vogelweide composed poems about Germans and told how much he liked particularly German women so there will in general have been some ethnic consciousness but indeed, who knows how strong or weak it was? Many German states have older roots, so that's no peculiarity of Luxembourg, and I can not see that particularly Luxembourg stood outside of the German commonality in earlier times. In contrast, with the German royal dynasty of Luxemburger it even had a prominent role in the common German history. Btw. amongst other things this perception of Luxembourg being core German led to the Luxembourg crisis in 1867 and the upsetment in Northern German states when it was leaked that the Dutch king (or was he less?) wanted to sell Luxembourg to the French king.


The advent of the Luxembourgish language is not spontaneous, but the reflection of an identitarian assertion.

Yes.


Luxembourg has always been a multilingual country, but sharing languages with adjacent countries, from which it wanted to distinguish.
Luxembourgish itself has strong French and Walloon influences too.

Yes. The German expectation was to get rid of that when the ethnic French parts of Luxembourg - the Walloon province Luxembourg - were split off and the remaining part was fully German. So a little bit disappointing.


I find it somewhat funny that there are many composed words – in a very Germanic way – that are made with both Germanic and French words, like in the following examples:

“Fussballsterrain” is “football pitch”.

“Bréifboîte” is “letterbox”.

Yeah. It's actually a horror to the German soul and its sense for order. Did you know that most of the time when there were used gothic letters in German the foreign words were even emphasisingly written in Latin letters?

https://i.imgur.com/QfwGJlf.jpg


There was in Luxembourg a Westmoselfränkisch linguistic continuum, mostly an oral language, but in the context of the establishment of a Luxembourgish language, it is the variety of the capital and the Alzette valley that was chosen.

Interesting.


The Luxembourgish language is still in the process of standardisation, and there are regularly new rules that are established. There’s a very important government’s official in Luxembourg, the Commissaire fir d'Lëtzebuerger Sprooch / Commissaire à la langue luxembourgeoise, whose role is to put in place projects in order to promote and to standardize Luxembourgish.

Can you say anything about the proportions in the usage of the three official languages French, Standard High German and Lëtzebuergesch, say when it comes to written texts (newspapers, books, advertisements)?

Laly
09-13-2023, 10:20 AM
Already Walther von der Vogelweide (b. abt. 1170) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_von_der_Vogelweide composed poems about Germans and told how much he liked particularly German women so there will in general have been some ethnic consciousness but indeed, who knows how strong or weak it was? Many German states have older roots, so that's no peculiarity of Luxembourg, and I can not see that particularly Luxembourg stood outside of the German commonality in earlier times. In contrast, with the German royal dynasty of Luxemburger it even had a prominent role in the common German history. Btw. amongst other things this perception of Luxembourg being core German led to the Luxembourg crisis in 1867 and the upsetment in Northern German states when it was leaked that the Dutch king (or was he less?) wanted to sell Luxembourg to the French king.



Yes.



Yes. The German expectation was to get rid of that when the ethnic French parts of Luxembourg - the Walloon province Luxembourg - were split off and the remaining part was fully German. So a little bit disappointing.



Yeah. It's actually a horror to the German soul and its sense for order. Did you know that most of the time when there were used gothic letters in German the foreign words were even emphasisingly written in Latin letters?

https://i.imgur.com/QfwGJlf.jpg



Interesting.



Can you say anything about the proportions in the usage of the three official languages French, Standard High German and Lëtzebuergesch, say when it comes to written texts (newspapers, books, advertisements)?

Thank you for the information you provide! I’m happy to learn about Walther von der Vogelweide. But didn’t Luxembourg stand out, since the earliest times, in comparison with other German States, because of the fact that it was a multilingual, multi-ethnic State, a crossroad between Romance and Germanic idioms? Isn’t it very singular? I find it really striking that often, when Luxembourgers evoke Luxembourg, they refer to a greater region than the Grand Duchy, including the “lost territories”.

Actually, the geographic division between the Walloon province of Luxembourg and the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg was not strictly ethnic/linguistic. In fact, there are parts of the current Grand Duchy that were historically Romance/French and there are parts of the current Walloon province of Luxembourg that are truly Germanic, like in Arlon and its region.

As you mention a disappointment, are you personally disappointed? :D

It’s very interesting that Germans used traditionally another font for foreign words. In French, foreign words are supposed to be written in italics.

As you ask about the use of the three official languages in Luxembourg, French is, since the Middle Ages, the language of administration and legislation. Administrative and legislative texts are compulsorily written in French, the only admissible language for them.

I’d say Luxembourgers are real polyglots and they can easily juggle with Luxembourgish, French and German. Everywhere, in Luxembourg, I’ve always spoken in French and people can always answer to me in French, sometimes with a strong Germanic accent.

French is the language that is the most used at work:

https://i.imgur.com/PwtvSB7.png

French is in green, Luxembourgish in red, German in yellow, English in blue, Portuguese in purple (about 20% of the population is Portuguese :D).

At home, Luxembourgish is the most used language:

https://i.imgur.com/pFa70RZ.png

For social interactions, it is Luxembourgish that comes first, followed by French:

https://i.imgur.com/iD8u2xB.png

The figures can be found here:

https://www.lefigaro.fr/langue-francaise/actu-des-mots/2017/06/07/37002-20170607ARTFIG00018-le-francais-ecrase-l-anglais-au-luxembourg.php

There is a wide press offer in the three official languages, in the bookshops, you can also find books in the three languages, but I’d say there is much more choice in French or in German. The advertisements, are often in Luxembourgish.

rothaer
09-13-2023, 12:20 PM
Thank you for the information you provide! I’m happy to learn about Walther von der Vogelweide. But didn’t Luxembourg stand out, since the earliest times, in comparison with other German States, because of the fact that it was a multilingual, multi-ethnic State, a crossroad between Romance and Germanic idioms?

According to this paper Luxembourg (today’s Luxembourg’s area) was a monolingual German speaking country essentially prior to 1843 and the biliguality is a pretty late development, see the visible abstract here:


Abstract

The sociolinguistic status of the French language in the Grandduchy of Luxembourg has changed over the past two centuries. This former language of prestige spoken only by a small portion of the population in 1839 has now become the lingua franca of Luxembourg’s society and economy. This paper describes how a monolingual German speaking country was first made bilingual by the education act of 1843. Initially imposed by the power-élite, French was accepted as a symbol of national independence and as a shield against the threat of German annexation. It became the language of higher administration and law and in a certain sense it was the virtual national language until the language law of 1984. This law not only declared Luxembourgish as the national language but gave specific functions to the French, German and Luxembourgish languages. Nowadays demographic and economic changes are challenging the historical balance of status between the three languages of the country. The paper emphasises the role of the educational system in creating this balance, especially in defining the superiority of French. It also shows how the reform of language teaching and the strong resistance of French teachers to this re-form is part of the renegotiation of the status of the French language in a nowadays multilingual country.


https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/transcript.9783839420300.37/pdf


Isn’t it very singular?

If we theoretically assume it to be applicable then it would not have been very singular in a German context. You had since the Middle Ages German and Czech intertwined in Bohemia and Moravia, you had German and Polish(/Kashubian) intertwined in Silesia and Westprussia, you had German and Lithuanian intertwined in East Prussia (including Memelland) and in historical Carinthia and Styria you had German and Slovenian intertwined kind of ever since. But I think besides German only Czech also had a status of an administrational language for some periods of time.


I find it really striking that often, when Luxembourgers evoke Luxembourg, they refer to a greater region than the Grand Duchy, including the “lost territories”.

Well, everyone likes particularly the periods of time when he was more important. When you talk to educated Swedes it doesn't take long time till they are into "stormaktstiden" (the great power time period). :)


Actually, the geographic division between the Walloon province of Luxembourg and the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg was not strictly ethnic/linguistic. In fact, there are parts of the current Grand Duchy that were historically Romance/French and there are parts of the current Walloon province of Luxembourg that are truly Germanic, like in Arlon and its region.

The latter (Arlon) I knew but the former not and I’ve not yet seen a map where that was made visible. Can tell where in the current Grand Duchy that was applicable? I've just seen maps like this:

https://i.imgur.com/O1jt8at.jpg


As you mention a disappointment, are you personally disappointed? :D

Yes. :cry


As you ask about the use of the three official languages in Luxembourg, French is, since the Middle Ages, the language of administration and legislation.

As the linked by me paper than would be totally wrong, do you have any source for that?


Administrative and legislative texts are compulsorily written in French, the only admissible language for them.

Yeah, wtf? :rolleyes: An ultimate self-Jean-Claude-isation!


I’d say Luxembourgers are real polyglots and they can easily juggle with Luxembourgish, French and German. Everywhere, in Luxembourg, I’ve always spoken in French and people can always answer to me in French, sometimes with a strong Germanic accent.

What a fate of a once proud and important German country...


French is the language that is the most used at work:

French is in green, Luxembourgish in red, German in yellow, English in blue, Portuguese in purple (about 20% of the population is Portuguese :D).

At home, Luxembourgish is the most used language:

For social interactions, it is Luxembourgish that comes first, followed by French:

The figures can be found here:

https://www.lefigaro.fr/langue-francaise/actu-des-mots/2017/06/07/37002-20170607ARTFIG00018-le-francais-ecrase-l-anglais-au-luxembourg.php

There is a wide press offer in the three official languages, in the bookshops, you can also find books in the three languages, but I’d say there is much more choice in French or in German. The advertisements, are often in Luxembourgish.

Very interesting data, thanks!

Jana
09-13-2023, 12:45 PM
got it today. great read

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51yHi7LyGKL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg

Laly
09-13-2023, 04:00 PM
According to this paper Luxembourg (today’s Luxembourg’s area) was a monolingual German speaking country essentially prior to 1843 and the biliguality is a pretty late development, see the visible abstract here:


Abstract

The sociolinguistic status of the French language in the Grandduchy of Luxembourg has changed over the past two centuries. This former language of prestige spoken only by a small portion of the population in 1839 has now become the lingua franca of Luxembourg’s society and economy. This paper describes how a monolingual German speaking country was first made bilingual by the education act of 1843. Initially imposed by the power-élite, French was accepted as a symbol of national independence and as a shield against the threat of German annexation. It became the language of higher administration and law and in a certain sense it was the virtual national language until the language law of 1984. This law not only declared Luxembourgish as the national language but gave specific functions to the French, German and Luxembourgish languages. Nowadays demographic and economic changes are challenging the historical balance of status between the three languages of the country. The paper emphasises the role of the educational system in creating this balance, especially in defining the superiority of French. It also shows how the reform of language teaching and the strong resistance of French teachers to this re-form is part of the renegotiation of the status of the French language in a nowadays multilingual country.


https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/transcript.9783839420300.37/pdf



If we theoretically assume it to be applicable then it would not have been very singular in a German context. You had since the Middle Ages German and Czech intertwined in Bohemia and Moravia, you had German and Polish(/Kashubian) intertwined in Silesia and Westprussia, you had German and Lithuanian intertwined in East Prussia (including Memelland) and in historical Carinthia and Styria you had German and Slovenian intertwined kind of ever since. But I think besides German only Czech also had a status of an administrational language for some periods of time.



Well, everyone likes particularly the periods of time when he was more important. When you talk to educated Swedes it doesn't take long time till they are into "stormaktstiden" (the great power time period). :)



The latter (Arlon) I knew but the former not and I’ve not yet seen a map where that was made visible. Can tell where in the current Grand Duchy that was applicable? I've just seen maps like this:

https://i.imgur.com/O1jt8at.jpg



Yes. :cry



As the linked by me paper than would be totally wrong, do you have any source for that?



Yeah, wtf? :rolleyes: An ultimate self-Jean-Claude-isation!



What a fate of a once proud and important German country...



Very interesting data, thanks!


Doncols, Sonlez or Rodange, which are in the current Grand Duchy of Luxembourg, are historically Romance speaking areas. During the whole XIXth century, the people there were still speaking their romance language.

Cf. this article, which can be found in Luxembourgish National Archives:

https://lucyin.walon.org/diccionairaedje/wf/S44.pdf

https://www.a-z.lu/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma990002316790107251&vid=352LUX_SPEC:BIBNET_UNION&lang=fr

Or these articles:

http://w3.restena.lu/cul/Rodange/index.htm

http://w3.restena.lu/cul/ParlersWl/index.htm

In the Middle Ages, the texts, including the administrative and legislative ones, were first written in Latin in Luxembourg. But from the XIIIth century, when Luxembourg was still an earldom, the French language started to impose itself in the texts and it really replaced Latin from the XIVth century. When the Duchy of Luxembourg became a possession of the Dukes of Burgondy, in the XVth century, the status of French in the administration and in the legislation was confirmed.

See pages 9-10 of this article (which can be downloaded in pdf):

https://i.imgur.com/4HXhFLi.png

or here, on a site from the Luxembourgish government:

https://i.imgur.com/5TRmhti.png

https://sip.gouvernement.lu/dam-assets/publications/brochure-livre/minist-etat/sip/livre/famille_grand-ducale/La_famille_grand-ducale-FR.pdf

Nurzat
09-13-2023, 05:13 PM
Tyll, by Daniel Kehlmann. medieval. International Booker Prize shortlisted

rothaer
09-14-2023, 06:43 AM
Doncols, Sonlez or Rodange, which are in the current Grand Duchy of Luxembourg, are historically Romance speaking areas. During the whole XIXth century, the people there were still speaking their romance language.

Cf. this article, which can be found in Luxembourgish National Archives:

https://lucyin.walon.org/diccionairaedje/wf/S44.pdf

https://www.a-z.lu/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma990002316790107251&vid=352LUX_SPEC:BIBNET_UNION&lang=fr

Or these articles:

http://w3.restena.lu/cul/Rodange/index.htm

http://w3.restena.lu/cul/ParlersWl/index.htm

In the Middle Ages, the texts, including the administrative and legislative ones, were first written in Latin in Luxembourg. But from the XIIIth century, when Luxembourg was still an earldom, the French language started to impose itself in the texts and it really replaced Latin from the XIVth century. When the Duchy of Luxembourg became a possession of the Dukes of Burgondy, in the XVth century, the status of French in the administration and in the legislation was confirmed.

See pages 9-10 of this article (which can be downloaded in pdf):

https://i.imgur.com/4HXhFLi.png

or here, on a site from the Luxembourgish government:

https://i.imgur.com/5TRmhti.png

https://sip.gouvernement.lu/dam-assets/publications/brochure-livre/minist-etat/sip/livre/famille_grand-ducale/La_famille_grand-ducale-FR.pdf

Interesting, thanks for the links!

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
09-28-2023, 11:53 AM
https://i.imgur.com/CocZCdS.jpg

Das Tripas Coração - Health, Hygiene and Medicine at the Age of Discovery by Sérgio Luís de Carvalho.

Incal
09-28-2023, 06:13 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7IbCrNXYAEAZb9?format=jpg&name=large

calxpal
09-30-2023, 04:42 AM
I've started getting into books about animals such as Marley and Me, and also a guidebook on cats I got from the library! I've also been rereading this comic called Johnny the Homicidal Maniac and I've been reading a Little Mermaid novel book too.

happycow
09-30-2023, 04:52 AM
book of mormon

Incal
10-08-2023, 06:37 PM
Due to the latest events, I've placed my readings on hold and focus on the current subject:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F77_074WkAAzVc8?format=jpg&name=large

PlattitüdenPaule
10-08-2023, 06:45 PM
Currently alternating between those two:

https://i.ibb.co/RQ9jvxW/IMG-20231008-204125.jpg (https://ibb.co/qmdJytw)

https://i.ibb.co/hswQ39C/IMG-20231008-204050.jpg (https://ibb.co/5Twpb42)

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-16-2023, 10:21 AM
https://i.imgur.com/4f4t0zg.jpg

The Real War - The Invasion of Ukraine and Portuguese National Defense by Nuno Rogeiro.

lei.talk
10-19-2023, 04:32 PM
https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png
https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/X9WtWRU.jpg (https://www.google.com/search?q=Hide+Your+Children%3A+Exposing+the+Marxis ts+Behind+the+Attack+on+America%E2%80%99s+Kids)

https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png



https://youtu.be/VN59E5PvzhY?si=Li6_crUuHtEFzbKi

https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png


https://i.imgur.com/xTsPkWD.png (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?374299-Why-the-Trans-Obsession-with-Conservatives&p=7746211&viewfull=1#post7746211)https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png



https://i.imgur.com/Dxk8hAw.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Wheeler)

Automata
10-19-2023, 04:33 PM
Homo Ludens

Cybele
10-20-2023, 06:19 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xg6wrid.jpg

Victor
10-20-2023, 06:31 PM
Re-reading "People's Monarchy" by Ivan Solonevich

Incal
10-20-2023, 06:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xg6wrid.jpg

I was just reading a book about him too.

Cybele
10-20-2023, 07:25 PM
I was just reading a book about him too.
Cool! :)
I saw you've read/are reading "In the realm of hungry ghosts", on the previous page. I have it too (in Romanian). I will read it after the ADHD one. :) Did you/ Do you enjoy it?

Incal
10-21-2023, 06:24 AM
Cool! :)
I saw you've read/are reading "In the realm of hungry ghosts", on the previous page. I have it too (in Romanian). I will read it after the ADHD one. :) Did you/ Do you enjoy it?

Yeah, I thought it was going to be more academical but it has a strong human and emotional perspective too. I'm reading it little by little because some of the cases portrayed on the book can be really devastating.

Your Old Comrade
10-24-2023, 10:30 PM
https://www.dbnl.org/tekst/gort004open01_01/gort004open01_01_tpg.gif

And

https://www.boomfilosofie.nl/media/26/9789024438822-het-communistisch-manifest.png

Daco Celtic
10-27-2023, 04:53 AM
Free pdf: https://dinitrandu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/wINNIFRITH-tHE-vLACHS.pdf

https://i.imgur.com/zYDOAbd.jpg

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-27-2023, 01:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/yaaEiG8.jpg

History of the Catholic Church by J. Derek Holmes and Bernard W. Bickers.

Token
10-27-2023, 01:12 PM
Rereading Richard Evans' masterful Third Reich trilogy, this time in German.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/711hrYjoezL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg

Cybele
10-27-2023, 07:13 PM
Free pdf: https://dinitrandu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/wINNIFRITH-tHE-vLACHS.pdf

https://i.imgur.com/zYDOAbd.jpg

Seems like a good book. Shame the online version is missing some chapters.

Batavia
10-29-2023, 05:03 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/V64Rc9GP/Stephen-King.jpg (https://postimg.cc/2bbvQWN0)

https://i.postimg.cc/8cJrnLxH/cover-wikipedia.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-04-2023, 03:11 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Xm7LKUb.jpg

The Amazon As Seen by Travellers - 16th and 17th Centuries by Auricléa Oliveira das Neves

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-06-2023, 08:33 PM
https://i.imgur.com/FA44mqA.jpg

Modern Culture by Roger Scruton

gixajo
11-11-2023, 01:43 PM
Notes from Underground by Fiódor Dostoevsky.

Thanks Russia for writters like this one.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 02:00 PM
Notes from Underground by Fiódor Dostoevsky.

Thanks Russia for writters like this one.
You are welcome! Dostoevsky did not like eef. He was a nationalist.

Victor
11-11-2023, 02:10 PM
The Pensees (Thoughts) by Blaise Pascal.

Victor
11-11-2023, 02:12 PM
Notes from Underground by Fiódor Dostoevsky.

Thanks Russia for writters like this one.

I've read all of Dostoevsky, but except for the "Demons" he's boring af. But thanks to him and few other writers, some huge powers like Nazis had false picture about Russian mentality built through Russian literature, because this Russian mentality of Dostoevsky, Tolstoy and other intellectuals is non existent except for their imagination.

gixajo
11-11-2023, 03:18 PM
You are welcome! Dostoevsky did not like eef. He was a nationalist.

Dostoievski could not dislike EEF because he did not know that term.:thumb001:

gixajo
11-11-2023, 03:24 PM
I've read all of Dostoevsky, but except for the "Demons" he's boring af. But thanks to him and few other writers, some huge powers like Nazis had false picture about Russian mentality built through Russian literature, because this Russian mentality of Dostoevsky, Tolstoy and other intellectuals is non existent except for their imagination.

Don't you think Dostoievski's work helps understand the Russian mentality a little better?

It's strange, because I've only just started reading this book (I have read several of his) and I've already found a few common things that I think I see in your opinions and way of seeing the world. I mean in Russians of TA, not just you.

Which author do you think would express it best?

Victor
11-11-2023, 03:25 PM
Don't you think Dostoievski's work helps you understand the Russian mentality a little better?

No, it leads you in opposite way.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 03:27 PM
Dostoievski could not dislike EEF because he did not know that term.:thumb001:
Okay, now we're both red! We need to rally against the Blues! I won't argue against the Reds anymore

gixajo
11-11-2023, 03:29 PM
"...as for the bureaucrats of knowledge the end justifies the means, a crime supported by a good logical argument is something that is always valid..."

Victor
11-11-2023, 03:34 PM
There's a good quote of Ivan Solonevich about this Western misunderstanding of Russia:



The psychology of a nation, masses, cannot be understood through literature.
Literature reflects only individual scraps of national
life — and, moreover, scraps sharply colored in the color
of the observer's lorgnette. So, Leo Tolstoy, a disappointed serf master, on the one
hand, painted the life of the Russian nobility in the colors
of the novel idealization of this life, and, on the other hand, reflected the sense
of doom of the writer's native layer. F. Dostoevsky - the life
of a declassified and embittered raznochinets, painted in the same
writer's "epilepsy". A. Chekhov — life of a small intellectual-
M. Gorky is a social-
democratic tramp. L. Andreev is just his alcoholic nightmares.
No one takes Poe's alcoholic nightmares
as an expression of the North American spirit, just as no one takes
Byron's pessimism as an expression of the British idea.
Bezukhov and Volkonsky could be.
There could be no Karataevs and Svidrigailovs. Plyushkins could be, as Oblomovs could be
, but none of these heroes characterizes
the national psychology of the Russian people in any way.
Russian psychology is not characterized by artistic-
not fictions of writers, but real facts of historical
life.
Not Oblomovs, but Dezhnevs, not Plyushkins, but Minins,
not Kolupaevs, but Stroganovs, not "non-resistance to evil", but
Suvorovs, not "anarchic tendencies of the Russian people", but its
deepest and widest state instinct in the entire history of mankind
.
All literature lives by the contradictions of life,
and not by its normal phenomena. Any real literature
there is critical literature. In totalitarian regimes there is no
criticism, but there is also no literature. Literature is always a
crooked mirror of the people's soul. Our literature is in a special-
modernity, because it was born in the era of serfdom, reached an
unusual technical height and painted all our
ideas about Russia in a deliberately wrong color. But
Russian historiography painted them in the same color.
We know very
little about the actual side of Russian history — especially the professors of Russian
history do not know it well. This is for the rather clear reason that
it was the professors of Russian history who considered this history
from the point of view of Western European patterns. The assessment
of Russian history from the point of view of these templates is correct
to the same extent as if we began to evaluate
Mendeleev's activity from the point of view of his vocal cords. Or:
the culture of Hellas from the point of view of the empire. Or the Empire of Rome
from Praxiteles' point of view. Or the USA industry
from the point of view of the gypsy camp. Russian historians and intellectuals tried
to measure miles by kilograms and pounds by meters. Confused
themselves, confused us. As a result of all this, we in emigration
do not have a single political trend that would
be Russian — not in name, but in meaning.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 03:38 PM
Don't you think Dostoievski's work helps understand the Russian mentality a little better?

It's strange, because I've only just started reading this book (I have read several of his) and I've already found a few common things that I think I see in your opinions and way of seeing the world. I mean in Russians of TA, not just you.

Which author do you think would express it best?
Yes, I agree with you. Dostoevsky knew the mentality of Russians well. Victor is also right about something. I advise you to read the work of another Russian classic Goncharov. The title of the book is "Oblomov". It tells about a very lazy person who has a lot of money inherited. And he lost his love because of his laziness, her name was Olga.

Victor
11-11-2023, 03:40 PM
Which author do you think would express it best?

You will not understand Russians through Russian literature.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 03:45 PM
You will not understand Russians through Russian literature.
I agree! Russians should be understood through ballet.
https://i.ibb.co/KrKPCwS/f0e1eb158ee58fb005ad464f7dd235b6.jpg (https://ibb.co/YL0CvZw)

Victor
11-11-2023, 03:50 PM
I agree! Russians should be understood through ballet.

Books I may offer to read to understand Russian mentality are not fiction ones and even more boring than I am.

Bat_
11-11-2023, 03:51 PM
Gonna start 'The Demon-Haunted World' by Carl Sagan.

https://www.patmbooks.com/cdn/shop/products/Demon-HauntedWorld_580x.png?v=1604094720

gixajo
11-11-2023, 03:54 PM
There's a good quote of Ivan Solonevich about this Western misunderstanding of Russia:

To be honest, I chose this book because the protagonist's circumstances are a bit similar to mine not to understand Russian mentality.

But about knowing the mentality of a people...

I believe that anyone can learn more about the mentality of any country by reading complete works by authors from that country, even if they are not about the "mentality" of that people, than a text by an author specifically aimed at explaining the mentality of a people.

It's not that I believe that the text and the author that you have shown me are lying, or that they don't know how to properly grasp the truth of what it is like, but that I think that it is easier for me to understand something like this in a more "indirect" way. That is to say, I want to be the one who understands, not for someone to direct me to understand.

I don't dislike or consider boring Dostoevski´s works,but it is true that at times he is very dense, and you have to occasionally reread a paragraph to fully understand what he is trying to convey to the reader (at least reading his translated work, surely for a Russian speaker reading it in Russian it is different).

Seeing it this way, he is not an author who writes works for fun or to have a fun moment, or to escape from reality. Its protagonists, like many 19th century European authors, are antiheroes, which makes them more realistic and closer to the common man; perhaps many do not like to see themselves reflected in something like that.

I already know that like everyone, we have good and bad things, and a book like this can help me detect defects in myself, thanks to seeing them in this character.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 04:13 PM
I don't dislike or consider boring Dostoevski´s works,but it is true that at times he is very denseA good resume.

gixajo
11-11-2023, 05:11 PM
A good resume.

Well, that requires us a little more effort to fully grasp the message it intends to convey to us, but trying hard makes us better. Don't you think?

gixajo
11-11-2023, 05:15 PM
Yes, I agree with you. Dostoevsky knew the mentality of Russians well. Victor is also right about something. I advise you to read the work of another Russian classic Goncharov. The title of the book is "Oblomov". It tells about a very lazy person who has a lot of money inherited. And he lost his love because of his laziness, her name was Olga.

I suppose that Dostoevsky's vision is not complete, as the vision of a single person never is, but surely it can shed some light on the subject, although later that light can be qualified or complemented with other visions.

The vision of strangers or foreigners, the vision external to the group, also provides a light and a perspective that provides light.

Sometimes we are in a way that we ourselves are not able to see and others outside of us can.

Incal
11-11-2023, 05:18 PM
I believe that anyone can learn more about the mentality of any country by reading complete works by authors from that country, even if they are not about the "mentality" of that people, than a text by an author specifically aimed at explaining the mentality of a people.

Exactly. Travel also helps. Or learning the language.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 05:19 PM
Well, that requires us a little more effort to fully grasp the message it intends to convey to us, but trying hard makes us better. Don't you think?I don't like to read big books. I am glad that you know Russian literature better than me. As a child, I read Fenimore Cooper and Mayne Reed and Don Quixote.

Vessna
11-11-2023, 05:22 PM
I am back to the basics with re-reading “Brothers Karamazov”. This is a third time I am reading it. My interpretation of this book changes every time. I got a Russian bible to read along to better understand Dostoyevsky’s philosophy.

true_southron
11-11-2023, 05:36 PM
I vaguely remember we had a lot of Russian literature in the high school, but for me they were all boring with the exception of The Master and Margarita by Bulgakov.

Vessna
11-11-2023, 05:41 PM
I vaguely remember we had a lot of Russian literature in the high school, but for me they were all boring with the exception of The Master and Margarita by Bulgakov.

Russian classic literature is not intended for children or teenagers. It requires a developed abstract thinking and some sort of life experience in order to relate.

true_southron
11-11-2023, 05:45 PM
Russian classic literature is not intended for children or teenagers. It requires a developed abstract thinking and some sort of life experience in order to relate.

My abstract thinking at the time when I was reading some of those books already surpassing many of my friends who were STEM students.

Victor
11-11-2023, 05:47 PM
Russian classic literature is not intended for children or teenagers. It requires a developed abstract thinking and some sort of life experience in order to relate.

I've read majority of classic Russian and Foreign literature between 14 and 22 years old. I don't like fiction now, mostly reading some historical or documentary books.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 05:49 PM
I've read majority of classic Russian and Foreign literature between 14 and 22 years old. I don't like fiction now, mostly reading some historical or documentary books.
Is that why you're such a bore? I forbid my daughter to study for A's and delve into literature. It spoils people.

Vessna
11-11-2023, 05:49 PM
My abstract thinking at the time when I was reading some of those books already surpassing many of my friends who were STEM students.

Good for you :)
Most of us who are not geniuses fully develop prefrontal cortex by age 25.

Vessna
11-11-2023, 05:51 PM
I've read majority of classic Russian and Foreign literature between 14 and 22 years old. I don't like fiction now, mostly reading some historical or documentary books.

But how much of it you fully understood? Try reading it again. You will be surprised how different your perception will be.

Victor
11-11-2023, 05:54 PM
Is that why you're such a bore? I forbid my daughter to study for A's and delve into literature. It spoils people.

I was an insane person back then, it was a period when I started to consume alcohol, going to football matches, concerts etc. I had an awful 9th grade with almost all "3" (C) marks for quarters, and some almost "2" (D), because I gave up everything, homeworks etc, I was registered in the "children's room" of the police for half of the year for some shit we were doing in our district xD I quit my school after this 9th grade (it was an English gymnasium) and spent two last years in ordinary school where I corrected my marks to get a normal school certificate.

But I see no problem with having interest in reading books at the same time, why not?

Victor
11-11-2023, 05:55 PM
But how much of it you fully understood? Try reading it again. You will be surprised how different your perception will be.

I've re-read some of it, majority of books were consumed by me after 16 years old, but I felt myself quite mature in meaning of understanding exact things.

Vessna
11-11-2023, 05:58 PM
I've re-read some of it, majority of books were consumed by me after 16 years old, but I felt myself quite mature in meaning of understanding exact things.

Lots of mature people on this forum. Meanwhile I am still struggling with understanding many things human. Well, it’s a bliss I guess to feel like you got a grasp on life.

true_southron
11-11-2023, 06:01 PM
Good for you :)
Most of us who are not geniuses fully develop prefrontal cortex by age 25.

I'm not a genius, I'm just very pragmatic. If I don't find value in something, I rather would not do it, so analyzing boring books was pain for me. I also remember other students in my high school class found more interest and appreciation for the Russian literature, I found more interests in mathematics. We're all different.

Vessna
11-11-2023, 06:05 PM
I'm not a genius, I'm just very pragmatic. If I don't find value in something, I rather would not do it, so analyzing boring books was pain for me. I also remember other students in my high school class found more interest and appreciation for the Russian literature, I found more interests in mathematics. We're all different.

I majored in molecular biology and mathematics in university. Just saying. But I agree it’s personal preference.

PlattitüdenPaule
11-11-2023, 06:06 PM
I've read majority of classic Russian and Foreign literature between 14 and 22 years old. I don't like fiction now, mostly reading some historical or documentary books.

I think I should catch up a bit soon. I still remember reading "The Death of Ivan Ilyich" by Tolstoi when I was around 16 and being so captivated and absorbed into it that I`ve read it three times in a span of about one or two months.

Victor
11-11-2023, 06:06 PM
I found more interests in mathematics.

I'm pragmatic towards Maths and I can rapidly count anything from the everyday life, including money and some schemes. I don't need anything from Maths upper than 5th grade.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 06:08 PM
I'm not a genius, I'm just very pragmatic. If I don't find value in something, I rather would not do it, so analyzing boring books was pain for me. I also remember other students in my high school class found more interest and appreciation for the Russian literature, I found more interests in mathematics. We're all different.
I understand you. Russian classical literature is hell for Russian children. It should be studied at retirement age in a nursing home to absorb wisdom. Children need freedom, discovery, adventure, but not wisdom.

Vessna
11-11-2023, 06:08 PM
I understand you. Russian classical literature is hell for Russian children. It should be studied at retirement age in a nursing home to absorb wisdom. Children need freedom, discovery, adventure, but not wisdom.

Lol

Victor
11-11-2023, 06:12 PM
I understand you. Russian classical literature is hell for Russian children. It should be studied at retirement age in a nursing home to absorb wisdom. Children need freedom, discovery, adventure, but not wisdom.

I have critical attitude towards part of literature, it can be harmful sometimes, indeed. But as long as majority of kids don't take it that serious it just expands their vocabulary.

Victor
11-11-2023, 06:14 PM
I think I should catch up a bit soon. I still remember reading "The Death of Ivan Ilyich" by Tolstoi when I was around 16 and being so captivated and absorbed into it that I`ve read it three times in a span of about one or two months.

I've read Erich Maria Remarque with pleasure.

gixajo
11-11-2023, 06:18 PM
Exactly. Travel also helps. Or learning the language.

Hay gente a la que los viajes solo le sirven para pasear su boina por el mundo.

I mean, it´s not just "to travel" but "to travel with eyes wide open"and willing to learn.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 06:18 PM
I have critical attitude towards part of literature, it can be harmful sometimes, indeed. But as long as majority of kids don't take it that serious it just expands their vocabulary.
Yes, it is harmful to children. But it is necessary for mature people. If you haven't read Dostoevsky or Tolstoy, then you haven't lived on this planet.

true_southron
11-11-2023, 06:18 PM
I understand you. Russian classical literature is hell for Russian children. It should be studied at retirement age in a nursing home to absorb wisdom. Children need freedom, discovery, adventure, but not wisdom.

Absolutely. I can't imagine how boring it would've been for me if I studied some of that literature in elementary school. I was really vivid and wild as a child.

gixajo
11-11-2023, 06:25 PM
I don't like to read big books. I am glad that you know Russian literature better than me. As a child, I read Fenimore Cooper and Mayne Reed and Don Quixote.

If you have read El Quijote you have read all the books.

There are some books that encompass everything human, and that is one of them, although it can be difficult to read because the way of narrating fiction was not yet developed at that times, in fact by many this work is considered the first modern novel.

The character of Don Quixote himself is the anti-hero par excellence, same than Tolstoi characters.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 06:29 PM
If you have read El Quijote you have read all the books.

There are some books that encompass everything human, and that is one of them, although it can be difficult to read because the way of narrating fiction was not yet developed at that times, in fact by many this work is considered the first modern novel.

The character of Don Quixote himself is the anti-hero par excellence, same than Tolstoi characters.
For me, a child at that time, Don Quixote is hopelessness. I've read it 3 times. And watched movies. And there was always a gloomy aftertaste.

Ugo
11-11-2023, 06:30 PM
Блять, клуб интеллектуалов, идите нахуй

Victor
11-11-2023, 06:31 PM
There's a very wrong thing people start to do, when they get deep into literature, they start to think that authors or their heroes are some role models. I hate when someone gives me a quote from book as an argument for something, it's such a nonsense.

It's as stupid, as idealization of celebrities, singers, actors.

gixajo
11-11-2023, 06:45 PM
There's a very wrong thing people start to do, when they get deep into literature, they start to think that authors or their heroes are some role models. I hate when someone gives me a quote from book as an argument for something, it's such a nonsense.

It's as stupid, as idealization of celebrities, singers, actors.

When someone does that it does not have to mean that you take as a model the character or the author,hero or someone to follow or trust in everything they say or support, it can simply mean that something you have thought many times without knowing how to express it completely well. , coincides with the idea or thought you read in a book.

That is, you express your own idea with the words of another person who knew how to express the same thing in a better way.

Finding a way to do something better isn't stupid, even if it's not your own thing.

That is, are you going to stop using a PC because you didn't invent it? Of course it is much more satisfying to express ideas with your own words, but not everyone has that talent.

That is, what you say may or may not be stupid, it depends.

true_southron
11-11-2023, 06:47 PM
There's a very wrong thing people start to do, when they get deep into literature, they start to think that authors or their heroes are some role models. I hate when someone gives me a quote from book as an argument for something, it's such a nonsense.

It's as stupid, as idealization of celebrities, singers, actors.

People that have the need to quote notable individuals have no opinions of their own :)

Incal
11-11-2023, 07:10 PM
Hay gente a la que los viajes solo le sirven para pasear su boina por el mundo.

Así es. Por eso lo primero que hago llegando a un país es irme al bar, como hacía Hemingway.

Zeno
11-11-2023, 07:11 PM
There's a very wrong thing people start to do, when they get deep into literature, they start to think that authors or their heroes are some role models. I hate when someone gives me a quote from book as an argument for something, it's such a nonsense.

It's as stupid, as idealization of celebrities, singers, actors.

Quoting someone who has intellectual value, like a philosopher, a scientist or a writer, no matter if you agree or disagree with them, isn't a sign of idiocy when you use it as a reference though. In fact, if you're conducting research, you ought to quote or reference someone else.

Quoting people who have no intellectual value though, like the average Hollywood celebrity however, as in the second sentence, is indeed stupid.

Distinguishing between cases is useful.

Zeno
11-11-2023, 07:14 PM
I am back to the basics with re-reading “Brothers Karamazov”. This is a third time I am reading it. My interpretation of this book changes every time. I got a Russian bible to read along to better understand Dostoyevsky’s philosophy.

I recently read it. Very mind-warping. And extremely heavy in terms of the situations and emotions implicated.

Dick
11-12-2023, 05:05 AM
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gixajo
11-12-2023, 08:44 AM
People that have the need to quote notable individuals have no opinions of their own :)

That´s not always true.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-12-2023, 01:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/oC0mTXF.jpg

The Seducer's Diary by Søren Kierkegaard.

Incal
11-12-2023, 04:51 PM
That´s not always true.

Bro doesn't know what "to share an opinion" means.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-12-2023, 05:04 PM
Avoiding quoting or paraphrasing works by renowned writers\scholars, in order to support the credibility of an argument or idea is one of the worst pieces of advice I've ever read on this forum, and believe me, I've read a lot of bad ones.

Kess
11-12-2023, 05:26 PM
Global Economic History: A Very Short Introduction by Robert C. Allen

Incal
11-15-2023, 12:38 AM
Yesterday I took a book to repair:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-8CWojXkAA_JGz?format=jpg&name=medium

Victor
11-16-2023, 03:00 PM
I'm reading 2nd time Vasily Aksenov's "The island of Crimea", alternative history/fiction book from 1970s. In this novel Crimea is not a peninsula, but island, where White movement established its Russian state independent from USSR after the end of Civil war.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-19-2023, 08:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/WRUjTgY.jpg

Trilogy by Jon Fosse.

Your Old Comrade
11-22-2023, 11:26 PM
https://www.deslegte.com/?module=CMS&action=GenerateThumbnail&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deslegte.com%2Fmetamorfose-31567%2F

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-23-2023, 10:12 AM
https://i.imgur.com/rvEuq45.jpg

Evenings on a Farm Near Dikanka by Nikolai Gogol.

Your Old Comrade
11-23-2023, 10:19 AM
https://www.deslegte.com/images/cached/resample/jpg/data/uploads/147/230/cms_visual_2027286.jpg_1689080315000_147x230.jpg

Far_away
11-23-2023, 11:15 AM
https://www.laguna.rs/_img/korice/5083/aleksandar_veliki-entoni_everit_v.jpg

Dick
11-24-2023, 12:10 AM
https://universitypressaudiobooks.com/2019grafs/black-sun.jpg

Your Old Comrade
11-24-2023, 12:28 AM
https://cdn.myonlinestore.eu/9420c585-6be1-11e9-a722-44a8421b9960/image/cache/full/1bc0d0f0fb9fd634f3a3a44f3702f17c908f1f87.jpg?20221 219082726

Far_away
12-06-2023, 12:50 PM
For Laredo
https://i.ibb.co/41Rbp4C/DN.png

Zeno
12-06-2023, 12:51 PM
Thus spoke Zarathustra (Also sprach Zarathustra)

Incal
12-06-2023, 02:14 PM
Sometimes I need a break from reality:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GArHkPqXwAACLiw?format=jpg&name=large

gixajo
12-06-2023, 02:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/6lOO7US.jpg

Voskos
12-13-2023, 06:56 PM
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/682c9a_cf95e3f82bdc4ee4a726eb5f11b8a461~mv2.jpg

Catnip
12-13-2023, 08:41 PM
Switching between these four :

Brendan Gregg: Systems Performance

Hannah Arendt : The Origins of Totalitarianism

Harry R. Lewis : Ideas That Created the Future : Classic Papers of Computer Science

H.P. Lovecraft : The Complete Fiction of H. P. Lovecraft (re-reading, it's been decades)