Swedes Begin to Question Liberal Migration Tenets

[Thorum]

And question they should!!

"MALMO, Sweden — Nick Nilsson, 46, decided to vote for Sweden’s (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/27/world/europe/27sweden.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss) far-right party last fall because of a growing sense that his country had gone too far in letting so many immigrants settle here."

[Enya]

But the Sweden Democrats is a jewish party, tricking the Swedes into thinking it's a party for the Swedes interests. People who vote for this party will eventually see what kind of evil they've been voting for. They're voting for a jewish accession to power, they're selling out their own country without even knowing it themselves.

[The Lawspeaker]

What Sweden maybe needs is a party that doesn't profile itself as far right but actually takes up a left-wing position in everything BUT immigration (and states that in less harsh terms: "the party believes that multiculturalism maybe has gone too far and proposes a temporal stop on immigration so the current policies can be reviewed while at the same time encouraging migrants to return home if they choose so or have a background in law breaking").

Such things can work too because when will the reviewing period end ? Never. :wink

[Pallantides]

A lot of the populist right seem to be supporters of Zionism and Isreal
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dXg1-RIcaA0/TKIqpEs5I1I/AAAAAAAAARE/BZP15B4Rkp0/s1600/SD.jpg(guy on the right with the hebrew sweater is party secretary for the Sweden Democrats)

[Groenewolf]

Ah, the Swedish Democrats. A party that want a tougher stance on integration, from what I understand. Which hardly can be seen as questioning liberal migration tenets. And was there not a SD-politician who got in to trouble with his party for being critical of mixed race couples?

[Groenewolf]

What Sweden maybe needs is a party that doesn't profile itself as far right but actually takes up a left-wing position in everything BUT immigration

National Communism as promoted by Bärin?

[The Lawspeaker]

National Communism as promoted by Bärin?
It doesn't have to be that it could be just a kind of Labour or.. something like a bunch of Greens or... Just using parliamentary means and public vote and slip such ideas into a coalition agreement and then it should be carried out. The only risk is that negotiations regarding the formation of a cabinet can fail but then you just start over and blame it on the partners (which can cause them trouble in new elections).

Underhanded ? Yes. Legal ? Perfectly.

[Enya]

And was there not a SD-politician who got in to trouble with his party for being critical of mixed race couples?

He got kicked out from the party for saying that he thinks that racemixing is wrong. :rolleyes2:

The Sweden Democrats is simply a party for jews against muslims. It has nothing to do with Swedish interests, it's about jews wanting to gain power in Sweden, and they do it by giving false promises about restricting immigration so the Swedes will vote for them.

This is just another war between jews and muslims of course, but this time on Swedish land.

[Groenewolf]

He got kicked out from the party for saying that he thinks that racemixing is wrong. :rolleyes2:

Which just shows that the SD is not really against Liberal Migration Tenets as states in the tread-title.:rolleyes: I hope he starts his own party and then takes a lot of support away from the Swedish Democrats. Or even becomes larger then them.

[The Lawspeaker]

I think that the guy is a total idiot for starters and let me explain that. This is not the right moment to make such points of view known if you value the good cause and your own political career.

Be smart.. don't play hard. The climate will have to be changed in order to achieve the situation in which one can make such feelings known and get away with it (legally, politically or socially) or even find support.

And what he is doing is actually making the situation worse for those that disagree with the present situation.

[Enya]

A lot of the populist right seem to be supporters of Zionism and Isreal
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dXg1-RIcaA0/TKIqpEs5I1I/AAAAAAAAARE/BZP15B4Rkp0/s1600/SD.jpg(guy on the right with the hebrew sweater is party secretary for the Sweden Democrats)

The guy to the right is Ted Ekeroth, ethnical jew who got the Herzl Award in 2006.


Each of these young people has shown outstanding leadership and devotion to Israel and Zionism through their exceptional volunteer efforts on behalf of Israel and the Zionist cause in their respective countries.

http://www.jewishagency.org/JewishAgency/English/Home/Jewish+Agency+Resources/JAFI+WZO+Related+Sites/WZO/HERZL/Herzl+Award+Recipients.htm

[Pallantides]

Yeah I know who he is, I didn't know he was an ethnic Jew though(at least wikipedia did not mention it)


I know that Sweden have been more "liberial" against Jews than Norway, though we also have had a few Jewish politicians.

[Thorum]

I find it odd that at a time when Sweden is being flooded, raped, over-run, saturated with invading Muslims, the comments I read are the baseless fear of Jews. Tell me the last Jew inspired suicide bombing, rape, etc. and I will give you 100 examples of Muslim crimes.

[Groenewolf]

I think that the guy is a total idiot for starters and let me explain that. This is not the right moment to make such points of view known if you value the good cause and your own political career.

In all essence he should try to make the best of this situation now the attention of the media is (partly) focused on this. And in essence it will make people wonder if the Swedish Democrats really represent their interests on such terrains. No doubt there are many people who vote on that party who agree with him. He can no longer play subtle and therefore must try to make most out of it.


And what he is doing is actually making the situation worse for those that disagree with the present situation.

You sound a bit like Joe now:coffee: .

[Pallantides]

I find it odd that at a time when Sweden is being flooded, raped, over-run, saturated with invading Muslims, the comments I read are the baseless fear of Jews. Tell me the last Jew inspired suicide bombing, rape, etc. and I will give you 100 examples of Muslim crimes.

It must be a genetic trait :D
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=355286#post355286

[Enya]

I find it odd that at a time when Sweden is being flooded, raped, over-run, saturated with invading Muslims, the comments I read are the baseless fear of Jews. Tell me the last Jew inspired suicide bombing, rape, etc. and I will give you 100 examples of Muslim crimes.

Someone told the swedes that multiculture is a good thing, someone then started to let muslims in, someone who wanted to weaken the Swedish people. Guess who?

And now that the Swedish people is weak, it's perfect for someone to say "Hey, I don't like muslims either, let me help you", which means, "Hey, of course I hate muslims, I'm a jew - I'll pretend to be on your side, Swede, so you'll give me power so that I eventually can become both the muslims' and your master". A good plan, isn't it?

[Thorum]

It must be a genetic trait :D
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=355286#post355286

I am still waiting for an example. Be specific...

[Thorum]

Someone told the swedes that multiculture is a good thing, someone then started to let muslims in, someone who wanted to weaken the Swedish people. Guess who?

Can you give me a specific example? Names and actions?

[Groenewolf]

Someone told the swedes that multiculture is a good thing, someone then started to let muslims in, someone who wanted to weaken the Swedish people. Guess who?

Unfortunately many people are not aware of such things (http://www.amazon.com/Culture-Critique-Evolutionary-Twentieth-Century-Intellectual/dp/0759672229/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1298813022&sr=8-1-spell). Which is also a mayor flaw in the general anti-Islam movement. An unwillingness to confront such issues. Little attention is paid to who opened the city-gates and why.

[Enya]

Can you give me a specific example? Names and actions?

As Freje_se posted;


"Bonnier (The Bonnier Group)


The TV Station LNK, is owned by the Jewish Bonnier family, based in Sweden.


Bonnier is a taken name; originally the family was named Hirschel.

Not only is the Bonnier family Jewish and not only do they own LNK, but they are the by far most influential media group in Sweden and in Finland.

They are very influential in Denmark as well. They are also involved in the Baltic countries (LNK in Lithuania) the UK, Germany, Poland and other countries.


Of the seven largest daily newspapers in Sweden, the seven with a daily circulation of over 100,000, the Bonnier family owns four, Dagens Nyheter (the Daily News), Expressen (the Express), Sydsvenska Dagbladet (the Southern Swedish Daily News) and Dagens Industri (the Industry of Today).



The largest of the private TV channels in Sweden is TV4.

The Bonnier family directly holds 21,6% of TV4 and through their ownership of the Finnish based Alma media company they hold an additional 23,4%, totalling 45% which amounts to a virtual control.

As head of TV4 we find Jan Scherman (Jewish). Jan Scherman's daughter Clara Scherman is chief buyer for TV4. A man with an (Jewish?) Hungarian name Hans Isoz heads TV4 Vision.


Through Alma Media, Bonnier also controls MTV3, the most popular channel in Finland with 39,1% of the total viewing time (in 2001) and Subtv, the third largest commercial television channel in Finland, aiming mainly at young adults.



Bonnier also employs the Jews Sven Irving (now TV4 News), Artur Ringart (TV4) and Peter Sommerstein (Sydsvenska Dagbladet).





Peter Hjörne (Jewish)

Beside the Bonnier family in Sweden there is the Peter Hjörne (real name Kaplan), owner and chief editor of Göteborgs-Posten (the Gothenburg Post; GP), the fourth largest newspaper in Sweden with a circulation of 253,700, reaching 600,000 readers daily.

GP is furthermore the only newspaper in Sweden's second largest city, Gothenburg.

Hjörne is also the owner of two local newspapers, Bohuslänningen (32.400) and Strömstads tidning (5,200); both distributed in the Swedish north-west coast area. In addition he controls 22% of Liberala tidningars konsortium (the consortium of liberal newspapers) and thereby Nerike Allehanda (The eighth largest newspaper in Sweden with a circulation of 66,300), Motala Tidning/Vadstena Tidning (12,800), Bergslagsposten (10,600) and Nya Ludvika tidning (9,500).

Finally he also holds 9% of Hallandsposten (31,000). Peter Hjörne is the son of a sister of another infuential Swedish Media Jew: Per Gyllenhammer (former top boss of Volvo).


Hjörne pays schoolchildren to watch Jewish propaganda


Hjörne is a part of the old Jewish establishment in Gothenburg and has his way to influence the Gentiles of that city.


For instance, when the Jew Steven Spielberg's movie Schindler's List reached the screens Hjörne personally paid so all senior high school students would see it.


The Bonnier family owns 30% and Hjörne owns 10% of The Swedish News-agency Tidningarnas Telegrambyrå (the Swedish Central News Agency), the main news source for the none-local news stories in most minor papers in Sweden.






Robert Aschberg (Jewish) owns the largest production company in Sweden called Strix Television and produces programs for every major channel, especially TV3 where almost all programs that aren't Hollywood produced sitcoms, talk shows (Ricky Lake and Jerry Springer ) or bad movies come from Strix.


Aschberg himself is the head of several of these usually noisy and chaotic shows and has thus been called Sweden's Michel Friedman .


His maternal grandfather is the banker Olof Aschberg who helped finance the Russian Revolution and his brother, Richard Aschberg, works at Aftonbladet (the Evening Post).


Robert Aschberg is furthermore an important financer of eXpo, a Swedish version of the ADL, even if it is not an exclusively Jewish organization.






[B]Swedish Labour Union & Norwegian Schibstedt Company:
Editor in Chief Helle Klein (Jewish)


The largest newspaper in Sweden is Aftonbladet (the Evening Post), jointly owned by the Swedish Labour Union and the Norwegian Schibstedt company.


The chief editor, however, is the Jewess Helle Klein, great granddaughter of the former grand rabbi of Stockholm, Rabbi Gottlieb Klein.


Her father, Ernst Klein, is influential in Swedish media as well. 1990-1999 he was the chief editor of Östgöta Correspondenten, the ninth largest newspaper in Sweden, and now he sits on its board.

He furthermore is president of Svensk Presshistorisk Förening (Swedish association of press history).


Beside Klein there are several Jewish staffers working at Aftonbladet.


In other words, of the seven largest news papers in Sweden, six are either owned by or edited by Jews.


And please note, there are fewer than 20,000 Jews in Sweden making up roughly 0.2% of the total population. Actually, I could go on and on describing the Jewish media influence in Sweden but I guess you see where I am heading.





Pehr G Gyllenhammar (Jewish)


Pehr G Gyllenhammar is the director of Kinnevik, which controls TV3, ZTV and the free newspaper Metro.

Gyllenhammar remains speaker for Reuters Founders Share Company.


The Reuters press agency was founded in 1848 by the Jew Paul Julius Reuter, his real name was Israel Beer Josaphat.





Marianne Ahrne (Jewish)

The Jewish film maker and writer Marianne Ahrne has control over a large part of the Swedish Film Institute's (Svenska Filminstitutet) 50 million kroner ($ 7.4) budget for long films.


She is known to block films which criticize Israel or USA.


The Swedish producer Kjell-Ake Olsson asked for financial support for his film "Grisbrottaren" about the now deceased artist Lars Hillersberg It was turned down because of Hillersberg's "fanatic anti-Americanism and his demonization of Israel”.


The film “repetioner”, based on a book by bestselling author Lars Norén got its budget cut because three supposed national socialists voice their opinions in it. Details in Swedish."

These are some of the jews in Sweden who control the Swedish media. And by controlling the media you're controlling the biggest part of the people (it's very easy to let the people read what you want them to read, and censor the rest). So yes, if jewish media tells people that multiculturalism is a good thing, people will believe it. And by that, the media is also in control over the government - this is the case in every country of the western world today. Believe it not, but one day it'll come as a shock to you if you keep on closing your eyes to what is going on.

[The Lawspeaker]

In all essence he should try to make the best of this situation now the attention of the media is (partly) focused on this. And in essence it will make people wonder if the Swedish Democrats really represent their interests on such terrains. No doubt there are many people who vote on that party who agree with him. He can no longer play subtle and therefore must try to make most out of it.
Well yes.. but it is now pretty certain that no policies will ever reach the floor of the Riksdag because no one would want to work with him. The right political climate isn't there yet and the support gained from the electorate for perceived "anti-immigration-policies" is merely used to tear down the welfare states and forcing assimilation (I mean.. the players here are brilliant but not working in our favour) rather then confronting the real issue (and seeking repatriation).

Would you grow vegetables in your garden in the midst of winter ?

[Enya]

I find it odd that at a time when Sweden is being flooded, raped, over-run, saturated with invading Muslims, the comments I read are the baseless fear of Jews. Tell me the last Jew inspired suicide bombing, rape, etc. and I will give you 100 examples of Muslim crimes.

Perhaps these people are the kind of people you would want as your masters;


Non-Jews as seen in the Jewish Talmud:


The Talmud is a sacred book of religious laws and regulations governing the life of Jews worldwide. The following excerpts shed some light on why the Jews, who are the product of such teachings, find it so hard to assimilate in their host societies:

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. THEY ARE BEASTS." TALMUD: Baba Mezia, 114b (page referrals).

"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture says to honor the dog more than the non-Jew." TALMUD:Ereget Raschi Erod, 22 30.

"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still ANIMALS in human form. It is not becoming of a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form." TALMUD: Midrasch Talpioth, p 225, Warsaw 1855.

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant ANIMAL." TALMUD: Coschen Hamischpat 405.

"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew as a monkey to a human." TALMUD: Schene luchoth haberuth, p 250b.

"The souls of non-Jews come from impure spirits and are called PIGS." TALMUD: Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b.

"If you eat with a non-Jew it is the same as eating with a dog." TALMUD: Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b.

"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his animals had died."" TALMUD: Jore Dea 377.

"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals." TALMUD: Sanhedrin 74b.

"IT IS PERMITTED TO TAKE THE BODY AND LIFE OF A GENTILE." TALMUD: Sepher Ikkarim III c 25.

"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." TALMUD: Coschen Hamischpat, Hagah 425.

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." TALMUD: Abodah Zara, 4b.

"Every Jew who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." TALMUD: Bammidber raba c 21 & jalkut 772.

[Loki]

The guy to the right is Ted Ekeroth, ethnical jew who got the Herzl Award in 2006.



http://www.jewishagency.org/JewishAgenc knowy/English/Home/Jewish+Agency+Resources/JAFI+WZO+Related+Sites/WZO/HERZL/Herzl+Award+Recipients.htm

I wonder if his support for Sweden Democrats has anything to do with his love for Israel. Hmmm no I think I know. ..

[Thorum]

Anyone know how many Jews live in Sweden? Perhaps 10,000?

[Peasant]

Wikipedia says 15,000

[Loki]

Anyone know how many Jews live in Sweden? Perhaps 10,000?

Astonishing that such a small minority can weild so much political influence.

[Oreka Bailoak]

Astonishing that such a small minority can weild so much political influence.

Intelligence is a trait that influences so many different aspects of life; from how you score on an exam, which college you go to, which job you get, to earning noble prizes, and making important scientific discoveries. At the top of society it is HIGHLY competitive.

Ashkenazi Jews have a much higher than average intelligence (15 points higher than the average European) so they will naturally achieve similar results.


During the 20th century, they made up about 3% of the US population but won 27% of the US science Nobel Prizes and 25% of the Turing Awards.

More than half of the world's chess champions are Ashkenazi Jews.

And here is the important part, once you statistically account for this intelligence gap the races are virtually equal in representation.

The IQ gap between races is vast. Because Ashkenazi IQ is averaged about 115 that means that a considerable amount of their population has intelligence greater than that value.

Europeans have an IQ about 100 so there is actually a HUGE gap between the two populations (and there is also considerable overlap because our large european population has quite a few that distribute above the Ashkenazi average). (Many East Asians have intelligence about 105 so there is even a vast gap between them and Ashkenazis)

People with an average IQ above 125 generally become doctors, engineers, college professors, CEO's, lawyers. People with an IQ of 105 generally become grade school teachers, accountants, or small business managers. There is a huge gap in intellectual ability!

(A great book on Jewish intelligence is the popular book "The 10,000 Year Explosion" which also talks about IE expansion, and recent human evolution.)

I don't think the fact that they are Jews by themselves are the problem. The problem is liberal ideology that convinces people that race doesn't exist, that every one is born equal with similar capabilities, that heritage is an illusion, that because of these ideas we need more immigration from other parts of the world which in turn leads to Europeans losing their heritage and uniqueness due to some Europeans own liberal acceptance of. That is our problem- liberal ideology- and not anyone particular group of people. There are many Swedes who are liberal, don't mind immigrants and don't care about their culture/heritage- because they are liberal. If the problem is not contained within a certain group of people- and the problem is contained within all groups of people- and the single unifying factor between all our problems is within the groups that hold liberal ideology- then liberal ideology is our problem. It's a battle of the mind not against 15,000 Jews in Sweden.

That being said yes, most Jews are liberal. But so what, many of our own people are liberal- though a smaller percentage. If we got rid of liberal ideology we wouldn't have an immigration problem, nor a cultural problem, nor a heritage valuation problem.

And yes it's strange that Swedish Democrats are so Pro-Israel instead of focusing on their own immigration problems. Yeah Jews own the media in Sweden- But the people decide themselves what they want to watch. And if there weren't liberal Swedish people the liberal media would go out of business and conservative media would flourish. It's a mental problem. (here in America our liberal stations are struggling financially because instead everybody watches/uses/reads/blogs conservative media)

[Jamt]

Jews in Sweden holds the same opinions and welds the same influence as the reality they exist in. Just as ethnically Swedes in that reality, journalists, academics, risk capitalists and so on. They are basically well off privileged Stockholmers who only sees the up-side of multiculturalism and if they don't, are to frightened to say so. A lot of them are assholes though.

[Pallantides]

In my country some of the more extreme rightwingers claim that any politican they don't like are Jews
... it can be a bit absurd.


Robert Stoltenberg is one of the usual suspects just based on his surname, but his ancestor Carl Peter Stoltenberg was one of the Eidsvoll men who was against Jews entering Norway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoltenberg_(Norwegian_family)


Stoltenberg is a distinguished Norwegian family of German origin. It can be traced back to Henrik Monssen (Stoltenberg), who was kirkeverge in Tønsberg. Its probable origin is the village of Stoltenberg in Schleswig-Holstein.

Not Jewish.

[Don]

But the Sweden Democrats is a jewish party, tricking the Swedes into thinking it's a party for the Swedes interests. People who vote for this party will eventually see what kind of evil they've been voting for. They're voting for a jewish accession to power, they're selling out their own country without even knowing it themselves.

Then take these jews and their friends out too.

We did it. And all worked quite well without their intromission and parasitation.

We built an empire once we were free.

It is time for our nations to cut from the roots our problems and take notes from our ancestor's history and instruments.

[Harcos]

I find it odd that at a time when Sweden is being flooded, raped, over-run, saturated with invading Muslims, the comments I read are the baseless fear of Jews. Tell me the last Jew inspired suicide bombing, rape, etc. and I will give you 100 examples of Muslim crimes.

In the aftermath of a war which might have ended with their eternal removal from the world stage, the Jews are determined not to let such a threat grow amongst the gentile population again.

Therefore to guise the real problem they open the gates into Europe, non-Europeans, mainly muslims start to flock there en masse. They create a series of false flag attacks, blame them on the muslims, manipulate the populace through the media of a muslim takeover, creates a widespread fear of sharia, bombings, terrorism, women mistreatment and so on so forth.

Then suddenly, parties and peoples such as SD and Geert Wilders emerge from the shadows, urges the Europeans to follow them. The Europeans as clueless as they are, hears the call and decides to follow these parties and people in the light of a belief that Islam is the enemy.

They decieve the Europeans into a war on Islam - A terrible war ensues, new crusades, race war, holy war..

In the end, after many years of miserable war, the Europeans led by these people end up victorious. They now worship the Jews as if they were their saviours. The peoples of Europe are now loyal to the Jews. Muslims, the zionists only opponents are no more, the ME, the oil, is now fully under Judeo control.

The plan to establish a worldwide Jewish supremacy via instigation of conflict between different groups of non-Jews, the aim described in the Protocols of Zion has succeeded. The world, now wholly dominated by Jews in all spheres of political and social life has entered a state of a sustainable system of slavery in which internal rebellion is no longer possible. Welcome to Zion, the purpose of Zionism.