Classify and place brazilian family from Old Republic times

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http://liberal.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Orgulho-e-Paixão__Divulgação.jpg

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This Novel represent rural Brazil in 1910 and pass in the Coffe Valley, probably Sao Paulo or Minas Gerais.

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http://fotos.caras.uol.com.br/media//images/large/2018/03/20/orgulho-e-paixao-inspirado-em-5-romances-de-jane-austen-802118.jpg

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http://www.guias.midia.guiya.com.br/public/uploads/imagens/originais/noticia-foto/15_atores_mais_gatos_elenco_novela_orgulho_paixao_ marcos_pitombo_rodrigo_simas_mauricio_destri.jpg

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I think they represent mainly the colonial elite. But there is also middle class people who are medium farms and there is also a foreigner that is english and builting a railway to the ocean to export coffee.

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http://noticiasdatv.uol.com.br/media/_versions/orgulho_e_paixao_agatha_moreira_murilo_rosa_raquel _cunha_fixed_large.jpg

[Kivan]

Let's try:

1 - North-Atlantid + Alpine
2 - Alpine
3 - Borreby
4 - Med
5 - Alpine-CM
6 - Alpine

The best fit would be Central Europe, maybe.

http://liberal.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Orgulho-e-Paix%C3%A3o__Divulga%C3%A7%C3%A3o.jpg

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http://static1.purepeople.com.br/articles/7/21/30/37/@/2447047-elisabeta-nathalia-dill-e-darcy-thiag-950x0-2.jpg



This is the character who plays the english engineer that falls in love with the brazilian farm girl

[QUICAS]

Let's try:

1 - North-Atlantid + Alpine
2 - Alpine
3 - Borreby
4 - Med
5 - Alpine-CM
6 - Alpine

Do you not think Chandely Braz has some amerindian vibe?

[Kivan]

Do you no think Chandely Braz has some amerindian vibe?

Not really(at least judging by the pics i have seen...).

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Not really(at least judging by the pics i have seen...).

She looks a bit armenian at least which is very rare among brazilians outside Sao Paulo or Rio Grande do Sul. Even those states dont have much convex noise influence.

[skain]

Let's try:

1 - North-Atlantid + Alpine
2 - Alpine
3 - Borreby
4 - Med
5 - Alpine-CM
6 - Alpine

The best fit would be Central Europe, maybe.

http://liberal.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Orgulho-e-Paix%C3%A3o__Divulga%C3%A7%C3%A3o.jpg

The last girl in right looks mixed.

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The last girl in right looks mixed.

Yep, she is Chandely Braz. She looks euro mixed, white bordeline or light parda like Cleo Pires. I think 4/5 of brazilians, like Kivan for example, would consider her white. I myself think that she still pass can declares herself as white if she want, but since Heathers said Maysa cant pass for white I dont know anything about Brazil anymore haha

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https://f.i.uol.com.br/fotografia/2018/03/18/15214153075aaef48b89b8d_1521415307_3x2_md.jpg

Anyway, its very likely that majority of this family has admixtures since 85%-90% of white brazilians have it.

[Xacal]

todas brancas

[guerrilla]

a good representation of Brazilian racial make-up lol

[Heather Duval]

Yep, she is Chandely Braz. She looks euro mixed, white bordeline or light parda like Cleo Pires. I think 4/5 of brazilians, like Kivan for example, would consider her white. I myself think that she still pass can declares herself as white if she want, but since Heathers said Maysa cant pass for white I dont know anything about Brazil anymore haha

Cala a boca e para de citar meu nome. Nem vejo essa novela, mas adoro a minha fada Nathalia Dill.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5iPW_wRKlY

[Heather Duval]

a good representation of Brazilian racial make-up lol

Its a novela.

[frdfgcg]

1, 5 - whites. The Rest - mestizos.
http://liberal.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Orgulho-e-Paixão__Divulgação.jpg

1,2 - mestizos. 3 - white.
http://www.guias.midia.guiya.com.br/public/uploads/imagens/originais/noticia-foto/15_atores_mais_gatos_elenco_novela_orgulho_paixao_ marcos_pitombo_rodrigo_simas_mauricio_destri.jpg


Girl is mestiza, man - White.
http://noticiasdatv.uol.com.br/media/_versions/orgulho_e_paixao_agatha_moreira_murilo_rosa_raquel _cunha_fixed_large.jpg


Man - maybe white, girl - white.
http://static1.purepeople.com.br/articles/7/21/30/37/@/2447047-elisabeta-nathalia-dill-e-darcy-thiag-950x0-2.jpg

[Heather Duval]

Man - maybe white, girl - white.
http://static1.purepeople.com.br/articles/7/21/30/37/@/2447047-elisabeta-nathalia-dill-e-darcy-thiag-950x0-2.jpg

Nathalia Dill(Nathalia Goyannes Dill Orrico) is white. Shes English, Spanish and Italian by her surname.
https://tv.i.uol.com.br/fotos/nathalia_dill_divglobo560.jpg
There are some English descents in Brazil, a really minority.

[guerrilla]

1,2 - mestizos. 3 - white.
http://www.guias.midia.guiya.com.br/public/uploads/imagens/originais/noticia-foto/15_atores_mais_gatos_elenco_novela_orgulho_paixao_ marcos_pitombo_rodrigo_simas_mauricio_destri.jpg

they all look white to me

Atlanto-Med+CM
Gracile Med
Atlantid

[Heather Duval]

1,2 - mestizos. 3 - white.
http://www.guias.midia.guiya.com.br/public/uploads/imagens/originais/noticia-foto/15_atores_mais_gatos_elenco_novela_orgulho_paixao_ marcos_pitombo_rodrigo_simas_mauricio_destri.jpg

they all look white to me

Atlanto-Med+CM
Gracile Med
Atlantid

the second isnt white lol
https://s2.glbimg.com/TFOjNOBG6b_Ofit4Ei1zE5HD-xI=/1200x/smart/filters:cover():strip_icc()/i.s3.glbimg.com/v1/AUTH_e84042ef78cb4708aeebdf1c68c6cbd6/internal_photos/bs/2017/2/W/JiddwdQ2qiuV547DtRqQ/rodrigo-simas.jpg
https://s2.glbimg.com/k4aNa90JmT4Z_xYsAzDPq23RSsk=/570x620/top/smart/filters:max_age(3600)/https://i.s3.glbimg.com/v1/AUTH_e84042ef78cb4708aeebdf1c68c6cbd6/internal_photos/bs/2017/K/4/eXDdpASPuuxanGY6zfzQ/rodrigosimas-diadoamigo.jpg
http://revistaquem.globo.com/Revista/Quem/foto/0,,61539415,00.jpg

U need glasses

his mother is very swarthy
http://s2.glbimg.com/78io36oF5yl3-xW61nE8CVp8OBY=/620x500/top/s.glbimg.com/et/pr/f/original/2013/09/15/img_6762.jpg

[Odin]

Mainly Atlantids/Atlanto-Meds, Alpine-Meds, and few Pardos. Pass in SW Europe.

[Heather Duval]

Brazilian novelas are very nonsense. The new novela is about Bahia, there are not even 3% black people in the cast. Irl Bahia is very SSA, many pardos and few self declared whites.

Globo se pronuncia sobre ter poucos atores negros em Segundo Sol
http://www.remanso-noticias.com/2018/05/globo-se-pronuncia-sobre-ter-poucos-atores-negros-em-segundo-sol/

[Carlito's Way]

Brazilian novelas are very nonsense. The new novela is about Bahia, there are not even 3% black people in the cast. Irl Bahia is very SSA, many pardos and few self declared whites.

Globo se pronuncia sobre ter poucos atores negros em Segundo Sol
http://www.remanso-noticias.com/2018/05/globo-se-pronuncia-sobre-ter-poucos-atores-negros-em-segundo-sol/

There are a lot of black talented actors in Brazil smh no excuses at all

[Heather Duval]

There are a lot of black talented actors in Brazil smh no excuses at all

Their excuse was ridiculous. They said "race doesnt mean shit to our novelas"

[Black Panther]

Globo has always been a racist tv-station. I've never watched any of their shit. To be honest, I've barely watched any TV in Brazil, except for cartoons when I was a kid and Everybody hates Chris during my teenage years.

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And I dont understand why this novel dont show many Low Class or immigrant people. Great Majority of globo novelas love to have very poor characters and show how they suffered before. But this novel, the Coffe Valley characters are all high class, middle class or bankrupt high class. Few poor people lifes and very brazilian colonial elite.

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a good representation of Brazilian racial make-up lol

No way, this people represent or middle and high class 1910 people. They are like our 40-50% whitest people.
(Those pictures only have one pardo! Its a characteristic of very class divided societies. But modern Brazil is way different and our high class today is not more like in colonial times where pardos were rare. Today around 20% of riches would be pardos. Otherway, whites were always part of the poverty.)

[Heather Duval]

No way, this people represent or middle and high class 1910 people. They are like our 40-50% whitest people.
(Those pictures only have one pardo! Its a characteristic of very class divided societies. But modern Brazil is way different and our high class today is not more like in colonial times where pardos were rare. Today around 20% of riches would be pardos. Otherway, whites were always part of the poverty.)

Funny: Globo excuse fot thevlack of black actors in the new novela about Bahia "segundo sol" was that novela is fiction and actors arent choice by skin colour but talent. So, novela is only realist when its convenient. Like for exemple in "Outro lado do paraiso" the prison was full of black women and only Fabiana was white.

[Heather Duval]

Globo has always been a racist tv-station. I've never watched any of their shit. To be honest, I've barely watched any TV in Brazil, except for cartoons when I was a kid and Everybody hates Chris during my teenage years.



A Globo foi notificada pelo Ministério do Trabalho por causa da quantidade pequena de negros em Segundo Sol , próxima novela das nove que estreia nesta segunda-feira (14) e que se passa na Bahia, estado com maior número de negros no país.
https://www.otvfoco.com.br/globo-e-notificada-por-falta-de-atores-negros-em-segundo-sol-e-pode-parar-na-justica/

[Black Panther]

Funny: Globo excuse fot thevlack of black actors in the new novela about Bahia "segundo sol" was that novela is fiction and actors arent choice by skin colour but talent. So, novela is only realist when its convenient. Like for exemple in "Outro lado do paraiso" the prison was full of black women and only Fabiana was white.

I'll become a director and make a novela set in Sweden, where 97% of the actors will be Blacks. It's all fiction anyway.

[Heather Duval]

I'll become a director and make a novela set in Sweden, where 97% of the actors will be Blacks. It's all fiction anyway.

Representação é super importante para crianças negras, ainda mais no Brasil. Quando eu era criança, eu me via poucas vezes na tv. Hoje em dia, valorizo muito o hip hop Americano pq smp vejo pessoas iguais a mim nos clips. :)

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Pardos são os q aparecem menos, as verdadeiras vítimas. Ambos brancos e negros aparecem demais, negros tintos estilo black american são no mínimo 15% das pessoas q aparecem em séries e propagandas. O elenco de de 3% da Netflix por exemplo tem negros puros super overrepresented, não parece o Brasil. Parece mais uma mistura de Rio de Janeiro com Salvador.

[Heather Duval]

Pardos são os q aparecem pouco. Ambos brancos e negros aparecem demais, negros tintos estilo black american são no mínimo 15% das pessoas q aparecem em séries e propagandas. O elencode de 3% da Netflix por exemplo tem negros puros super overrepresented, não parece o Brasil. Parece mais uma mistura de Rio com Salvador.

Piada. Novela sobre Bahia e não tem nem 4 negros no elenco. Mas a Globo disse que as novelas dela são fictícias e que a cor de pele não importa na hora de empregar os atores. As novelas só são realistas na hora de encher de negros em cenas como cadeia.

[Black Panther]

Representação é super importante para crianças negras, ainda mais no Brasil. Quando eu era criança, eu me via poucas vezes na tv. Hoje em dia, valorizo muito o hip hop Americano pq smp vejo pessoas iguais a mim nos clips. :)

Eu até prefiro que os brancos continuem colocando mais e mais brancos na TV. É preciso que o negro no Brasil acorde e faça uma BET nacional. Afinal, não é bom que a globo invista em diversidade, pois é tudo falsidade do mesmo jeito. Os negros estaríam dando seu dinheiro para brancos racistas do mesmo jeito.

[Heather Duval]

Eu até prefiro que os brancos continuem colocando mais e mais brancos na TV. É preciso que o negro no Brasil acorde e faça uma BET nacional. Afinal, não é bom que a globo invista em diversidade, pois é tudo falsidade do mesmo jeito. Os negros estaríam dando seu dinheiro para brancos racistas do mesmo jeito.

Aquele programa " De frente com Fátima Bernades" mesmo fica usando as causas negras pra conseguir ibope. Todo dia fingem se importar com negros naquela bosta de programa.

[Heather Duval]

Todo dia falam de racismo no programa kkkkkkkkkkkkk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLHIraY5Bb0

[Black Panther]

Pardos são os q aparecem menos, as verdadeiras vítimas. Ambos brancos e negros aparecem demais, negros tintos estilo black american são no mínimo 15% das pessoas q aparecem em séries e propagandas. O elenco de de 3% da Netflix por exemplo tem negros puros super overrepresented, não parece o Brasil. Parece mais uma mistura de Rio de Janeiro com Salvador.

Isso é o que acontece a raças confusas. Se os pardos não se encomodam com sua ausencia em certos lugares, as coisas continuaram como estão.

[Black Panther]

Aquele programa " De frente com Fátima Bernades" mesmo fica usando as causas negras pra conseguir ibope. Todo dia fingem se importar com negros naquela bosta de programa.

Típico dos brancos "esquerdistas"

[Latinus]

1, 5 - whites. The Rest - mestizos.
http://liberal.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Orgulho-e-Paixão__Divulgação.jpg

1,2 - mestizos. 3 - white.
http://www.guias.midia.guiya.com.br/public/uploads/imagens/originais/noticia-foto/15_atores_mais_gatos_elenco_novela_orgulho_paixao_ marcos_pitombo_rodrigo_simas_mauricio_destri.jpg


Girl is mestiza, man - White.
http://noticiasdatv.uol.com.br/media/_versions/orgulho_e_paixao_agatha_moreira_murilo_rosa_raquel _cunha_fixed_large.jpg


Man - maybe white, girl - white.
http://static1.purepeople.com.br/articles/7/21/30/37/@/2447047-elisabeta-nathalia-dill-e-darcy-thiag-950x0-2.jpg

All the women have white phenotypes and pass in the Old World. They range from Sicily to Germany.
Marcos Pitombo mestizo? Since when? He is Atlanto-Med:
https://oplanetatv.clickgratis.com.br/_upload/content/2017/10/31/marcos-pitombo-e-escalado-para-orgulho-e-paixao-59f8a540abbaf.jpg

Agatha Moreira is not mestiza. She is Med-Alpine and easily pass in Iberia:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-n5tqzST8Ezs/UcH87fCKEBI/AAAAAAAAAOI/ar2aTxdgpFw/s400/300x300_lu.jpg