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Starseed88
05-08-2018, 10:04 PM
It seems that a lot of the R1a in Scandinavia does indeed come from Kazakhstan. It's probably of Indo-Iranian origin and Q and K markers also seen there are most probably of Turko-Mongol origin. Well, legend tells us that Odin came from the east, from somewhere around the River Don. We also know for a fact that migrating Germanic tribes hooked up with Indo-Iranian (Alan Sarmatians) and Turko-Mongol (Hun) groups. Plus, maybe these Nordic/Indo-Iranian/Turko-Mongol groups then made their way back to Scandinavia? Also, it would seem that much of the R1a in Scandinavia, although of Central Asian origin, actually comes from Indo-Iranians. What I know, these people were largely Nordic and Med in appearance anyway. The rest of R1a is of the European kind - same as in Poland - and of the same racial background.

Kelmendasi
05-09-2018, 08:24 PM
The R1a in Scandinavia/NW Europe isn't Indo-Iranian in origin. The R1a in NW Europe belongs to either Z284 or L664 and not Z93 which is the Indo-Iranian clade of R1a. L664 and Z284 are Germanic and both participated in the Nordic Bronze Age. They are European clades of R1a just like how M458 and Z280 are

Crimson Winds
08-17-2018, 12:45 PM
I've heard a theory claiming Odin as deificated version of Attila. We knew Huns conquered southern parts of Scandinavia and there is some degree of mytological similarity but of course it's just a theory.

Odin
Odata - Fire father ( God of fire in Turkic mytology)

CommonSense
08-17-2018, 12:59 PM
When I saw the title I thought this was a Kipchak Hakan thread xD

Kaspias
08-17-2018, 01:42 PM
When I saw the title I thought this was a Kipchak Hakan thread xD

Same hahahahha

Yaglakar
08-17-2018, 03:21 PM
Odyssey is actually a Turkic epic, written by an anonymous author. Od saray. The actual events take place in a fire palace as the name suggests and the epic is not about journey home.

Proto-Shaman
08-18-2018, 12:44 AM
When I saw the title I thought this was a Kipchak Hakan thread xD

Türan is watching you :p