Y-DNA of 24 Balkan Turks

[Hudayar]

They're from Bulgaria, Greece and Turkish part of Thrace.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wT5bktOsWVA/Wu3dEmyKm1I/AAAAAAAABKE/Hstl_hstUSkziU759vSl1z7_Q21SmTx9gCLcBGAs/s1600/31762170_464746353982345_5472745623184736256_n.jpg

And if you're wondering, Anatolian Turks' Y-DNA (Sample Size: 112)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-M5AB_yl7LFY/WvCWXccRaxI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/rf6LATbEkzUo7tume-C4qWrG_lmyyEdqwCLcBGAs/s1600/112tr.png

[Hudayar]

Some of their gedmatch results

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a0606dMvwEI/Wu3bye5OrkI/AAAAAAAABJQ/LPedX-FOhgUyolxTJeHHu7m54wdXTjj2gCLcBGAs/s1600/T%25C3%25BCrk%2BTrakya%2B2.PNG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1WQdrDzuKbE/Wu3cST_stTI/AAAAAAAABJo/KOJVTltdAkEbnoYoeikQt-6d_KTk1CvEgCLcBGAs/s1600/T%25C3%25BCrk%2BBulgaristan%2B11.PNG

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v7pXxDMNWus/Wu3cwueV9-I/AAAAAAAABJ8/sV4_kXo7FJQ0YAo13q7Z2Sdd1SiQLuPVACLcBGAs/s1600/T%25C3%25BCrk%2BYunanistan%2B3.PNG

[Hudayar]

I have a Balkan Turk's gedmatch oracle results by the way. Here:


MDLP K23b:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.51
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 22.88
3 European_Early_Farmers 18.68
4 Near_East 5.63
5 South_Central_Asian 5.39
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.55
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.38
8 North_African 1.68
9 Australoid 1.26
10 East_Siberian 1.24
11 African_Pygmy 1.04


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 6.544391
2 Greek_Northwest_ @ 7.134318
3 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 7.244408
4 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 7.403837
5 Gagauz_ @ 7.743945
6 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 7.788754
7 Bulgarian_ @ 8.002268
8 Kosovar_ @ 8.258061
9 Romanian_ @ 8.454732
10 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 8.469614
11 Central_Greek_ @ 8.913568
12 Macedonian_ @ 9.671342
13 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 10.103348
14 Greek_ @ 10.730290
15 Montenegrian_ @ 11.920943
16 Greek_Athens_ @ 12.211871
17 Italian_North_ @ 12.432179
18 Ashkenazi_ @ 12.573441
19 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 13.361238
20 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 13.573918

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serb_Serbia_ +50% Turk_Balikesir_ @ 2.848598


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek_ +25% Greek_Northwest_ +25% Tatar-Kazan_ @ 2.178673


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
1 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Greek_Thessaly_ + Italian_Tuscan_ + Tatar-Mishar_ @ 1.880302
2 Albanian_Tirana_ + Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Italian_Tuscan_ + Tatar-Mishar_ @ 1.922729
3 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Greek_Thessaloniki_ + Italian_Tuscan_ + Tatar-Mishar_ @ 1.975414
4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + German_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Turk_Aydin_ @ 2.059232
5 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Greek_Peloponnesos_ + Italian_Tuscan_ + Tatar-Mishar_ @ 2.077143
6 Central_Greek_ + Greek_Athens_ + Greek_Northwest_ + Tatar-Mishar_ @ 2.080682
7 Albanian_Tirana_ + Bulgarian_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Tatar-Lithuanian_ @ 2.081470
8 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + Kosovar_ + Tatar-Mishar_ @ 2.085079
9 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Italian_Bergamo_ + Slovak_ + Turk_Aydin_ @ 2.088884
10 Azov_Greek_ + Greek_Thessaly_ + Kosovar_ + Tatar-Lithuanian_ @ 2.103130
11 Albanian_Tirana_ + Azov_Greek_ + Kosovar_ + Tatar-Lithuanian_ @ 2.112477
12 Gagauz_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Kosovar_ + Tatar-Lithuanian_ @ 2.118680
13 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Greek_Thessaly_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Tatar-Mishar_ @ 2.128006
14 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Greek_Thessaly_ + Italian_Tuscan_ + Tatar-Kazan_ @ 2.130313
15 Central_Greek_ + Greek_ + Greek_Northwest_ + Tatar-Mishar_ @ 2.132738
16 Central_Greek_ + Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Tatar-Mishar_ @ 2.136379
17 Albanian_Tirana_ + Greek_Athens_ + Greek_Northwest_ + Tatar-Kazan_ @ 2.143573
18 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Greek_Thessaloniki_ + Italian_Piedmont_ + Tatar-Mishar_ @ 2.146717
19 Greek_Athens_ + Greek_Northwest_ + Greek_Thessaly_ + Tatar-Kazan_ @ 2.157527
20 Croat_BH_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + Kosovar_ + Nogai_ @ 2.157625

Done.

Elapsed time 54.1586 seconds.
Dodecad K7b
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 45.38
2 West_Asian 25.47
3 Southern 23.61
4 Siberian 3.35
5 East_Asian 1.98


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
7 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 8.962394
2 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 10.023177
3 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 10.179361
4 Tuscan_HGDP @ 10.742151
5 Romanians_Behar @ 11.043639
6 Greek_Dodecad @ 11.763844
7 TSI30_Metspalu @ 12.107388
8 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 12.442495
9 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 15.569071
10 North_Italian_HGDP @ 17.153603
11 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 17.585405
12 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 18.631527
13 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 19.493341
14 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 19.747021
15 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 23.693575
16 Murcia_1000Genomes @ 24.509420
17 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 24.682188
18 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 24.777052
19 Andalucia_1000Genomes @ 24.863493
20 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 25.101366

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriots_Behar +50% Mordovians_Yunusbayev @ 2.184728


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque_HGDP +25% Georgians_Behar +25% Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 0.916024


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Armenians_Behar + French_HGDP + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 0.753398
2 Armenians_Behar + French_HGDP + French_Basque_HGDP + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 0.772077
3 Armenians_Behar + French_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 0.833361
4 Armenians_Behar + French_Basque_HGDP + French_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 0.844840
5 Georgians_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 0.848776
6 French_Basque_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 0.885212
7 French_Basque_HGDP + French_Basque_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 0.916024
8 Cantabria_1000Genomes + Russian_B_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 0.967503
9 Cantabria_1000Genomes + Russian_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.019029
10 Cantabria_1000Genomes + Russian_B_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 1.024709
11 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Russian_HGDP + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.065281
12 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + French_HGDP + French_Basque_HGDP + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 1.090545
13 German_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Samaritians_Behar @ 1.092504
14 French_Basque_HGDP + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 1.096523
15 Argyll_1000Genomes + Cypriots_Behar + N_Italian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 1.103245
16 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Russian_HGDP + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.114632
17 Cantabria_1000Genomes + Russian_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 1.125406
18 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + French_HGDP + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 1.127281
19 Dutch_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Samaritians_Behar @ 1.131479
20 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 1.132720

Done.

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Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.69
2 Baltic 22.11
3 North_Atlantic 17.97
4 West_Med 14.36
5 West_Asian 13.32
6 Siberian 3.18
7 East_Asian 1.06


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 7.983203
2 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.833528
3 Romanian @ 10.540755
4 Serbian @ 14.852921
5 Central_Greek @ 15.622464
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 16.518248
7 East_Sicilian @ 17.087404
8 Ashkenazi @ 17.556452
9 West_Sicilian @ 18.496149
10 Tuscan @ 19.064184
11 Moldavian @ 19.836374
12 South_Italian @ 20.456852
13 North_Italian @ 22.441561
14 Croatian @ 23.497019
15 Hungarian @ 23.508982
16 Sephardic_Jewish @ 25.917866
17 Italian_Jewish @ 25.930040
18 Algerian_Jewish @ 25.971159
19 Austrian @ 27.390617
20 Turkish @ 28.276918

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% South_Polish @ 4.768610


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Tatar @ 4.079902


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
1 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.656495
2 Bulgarian + Erzya + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.855378
3 Bulgarian + Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 3.887959
4 Central_Greek + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian @ 3.892263
5 Erzya + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian @ 3.920633
6 Greek_Thessaly + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian @ 3.920732
7 Bulgarian + Erzya + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.933610
8 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.956397
9 Erzya + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian @ 3.959301
10 Central_Greek + Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + Serbian @ 3.978183
11 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + East_Finnish + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.998895
12 Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + West_Sicilian @ 4.003441
13 Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Moldavian + South_Italian @ 4.011654
14 Central_Greek + Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian @ 4.015283
15 Central_Greek + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Serbian @ 4.017260
16 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze @ 4.029153
17 Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + Serbian + South_Italian @ 4.031596
18 Bulgarian + Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + West_Sicilian @ 4.052720
19 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Tatar @ 4.079902
20 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Russian @ 4.111659

Done.

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[Leto]

Looks like they are predominantly Balkan and Anatolian, even their paternal lineages (I2, I1, E1b, R1a, etc.) are mostly West Eurasian/European.

[Proto-Shaman]

Looks like they are predominantly Balkan and Anatolian, even their paternal lineages (I2, I1, E1b, R1a, etc.) are mostly West Eurasian/European.
Haplogroups are 75,00% Turkic basically.

[Leto]

Haplogroups are 75,00% Turkic basically.
Yeah, everything is Turkic, from Portugal all the way to Japan.

[Proto-Shaman]

Yeah, everything is Turkic, from Portugal all the way to Japan.
no, only Turks are Turkic. lol I never expected such a statement from you, looks like you are suffering from indo-europeanism.

[OrhanU]

They're from Bulgaria, Greece and Turkish part of Thrace.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wT5bktOsWVA/Wu3dEmyKm1I/AAAAAAAABKE/Hstl_hstUSkziU759vSl1z7_Q21SmTx9gCLcBGAs/s1600/31762170_464746353982345_5472745623184736256_n.jpg

And if you're wondering, Anatolian Turks' Y-DNA (Sample Size: 112)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-M5AB_yl7LFY/WvCWXccRaxI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/rf6LATbEkzUo7tume-C4qWrG_lmyyEdqwCLcBGAs/s1600/112tr.png

I am E1b1b1, paternal grandpa from Prijepolje.

[Voskos]

Almost fully caucasoid.

[Marmara]

I am E1b1b1, paternal grandpa from Prijepolje.

Albanian?

[Hapanuwa]

They're from Bulgaria, Greece and Turkish part of Thrace.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wT5bktOsWVA/Wu3dEmyKm1I/AAAAAAAABKE/Hstl_hstUSkziU759vSl1z7_Q21SmTx9gCLcBGAs/s1600/31762170_464746353982345_5472745623184736256_n.jpg

And if you're wondering, Anatolian Turks' Y-DNA (Sample Size: 112)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-M5AB_yl7LFY/WvCWXccRaxI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/rf6LATbEkzUo7tume-C4qWrG_lmyyEdqwCLcBGAs/s1600/112tr.png


I'm part of the 5.36% with e1b1b1 from Turkey. I have no (known) ancestry outside Turkey though

[Vožd]

Look like Slav-Vlach mix.

[OrhanU]

Albanian?

No, never heard any connections with Albanians. Bosniak