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WillyWonka
05-12-2018, 03:03 PM
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MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 45.81
2 European_Early_Farmers 15.4
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.51
4 South_Central_Asian 10.04
5 Near_East 9.74
6 North_African 4.69
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.19
8 South_East_Asian 1.04
9 Tungus-Altaic 0.33
10 Archaic_Human 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azov_Greek ( ) 4.94
2 Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) 6.55
3 Cypriot ( ) 7.38
4 Greek_Islands ( ) 9.07
5 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 9.24
6 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 9.29
7 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 9.7
8 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 10
9 Cretan ( ) 10.01
10 Greek ( ) 10.09
11 Greek_Athens ( ) 10.29
12 Turk ( ) 10.54
13 Italian_South ( ) 10.59
14 Lebanese_Druze ( ) 10.98
15 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 11.45
16 Georgian_Jew ( ) 11.92
17 Lebanese_Christian ( ) 12.54
18 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 12.57
19 Syrian_Jew ( ) 12.63
20 Gagauz ( ) 12.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.3% Cretan ( ) + 22.7% Adjara ( ) @ 1.63
2 78.2% Cretan ( ) + 21.8% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) @ 1.66
3 78.5% Cretan ( ) + 21.5% Georgian_Svan ( ) @ 1.72
4 76.9% Cretan ( ) + 23.1% Abkhasian ( ) @ 1.74
5 77.1% Cretan ( ) + 22.9% Georgian ( ) @ 1.75
6 79.4% Cretan ( ) + 20.6% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) @ 1.79
7 61.9% Sicilian_East ( ) + 38.1% Kakheti ( ) @ 1.81
8 63.5% Ashkenazi ( ) + 36.5% Kakheti ( ) @ 1.82
9 79.6% Cretan ( ) + 20.4% Georgian_Imereti ( ) @ 1.85
10 55.1% Romanian_Jew ( ) + 44.9% Armenian ( ) @ 1.91
11 50.9% Ashkenazi ( ) + 49.1% Armenian ( ) @ 1.97
12 54% Sicilian_West ( ) + 46% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 2.14
13 61.7% Greek_Athens ( ) + 38.3% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 2.14
14 58.9% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 41.1% Kakheti ( ) @ 2.22
15 67.5% Romanian_Jew ( ) + 32.5% Kakheti ( ) @ 2.22
16 67.3% Sicilian_East ( ) + 32.7% Adjara ( ) @ 2.24
17 73.2% Cretan ( ) + 26.8% Kakheti ( ) @ 2.29
18 62.2% Italian_South ( ) + 37.8% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.3
19 57.1% Romanian_Jew ( ) + 42.9% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.33
20 52.8% Ashkenazi ( ) + 47.2% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.34





Eurogenes v2 k15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.51
2 West_Asian 27.26
3 West_Med 12.53
4 Atlantic 11.73
5 Baltic 5.9
6 North_Sea 5.24
7 Red_Sea 3.73
8 Eastern_Euro 3.06
9 Sub-Saharan 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 9.19
2 Central_Greek 12.1
3 South_Italian 12.24
4 Cyprian 13
5 East_Sicilian 13.3
6 Lebanese_Muslim 13.71
7 Armenian 13.95
8 Azeri 13.98
9 Italian_Abruzzo 13.98
10 Assyrian 14.19
11 Georgian_Jewish 14.21
12 Ashkenazi 14.31
13 Sephardic_Jewish 14.42
14 Italian_Jewish 15.61
15 Kurdish 16
16 Greek 16.25
17 Syrian 16.33
18 Tunisian_Jewish 16.72
19 Algerian_Jewish 16.87
20 West_Sicilian 16.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.1% Armenian + 45.9% Greek @ 3.89
2 50.1% Armenian + 49.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.36
3 53.7% Georgian_Jewish + 46.3% Greek @ 4.46
4 69.7% South_Italian + 30.3% Georgian @ 4.51
5 72.4% South_Italian + 27.6% Abhkasian @ 4.55
6 74% Georgian_Jewish + 26% Southwest_French @ 4.59
7 54.1% Central_Greek + 45.9% Armenian @ 4.6
8 71.1% Georgian_Jewish + 28.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.67
9 72% Georgian_Jewish + 28% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.68
10 50.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 49.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.75
11 66.5% Georgian_Jewish + 33.5% North_Italian @ 4.77
12 60.9% Armenian + 39.1% Tuscan @ 4.79
13 55.4% Armenian + 44.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.81
14 77.4% Georgian_Jewish + 22.6% French_Basque @ 4.89
15 72.5% Armenian + 27.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.89
16 60.4% Georgian_Jewish + 39.6% Tuscan @ 4.91
17 71.7% Armenian + 28.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.92
18 73.6% Georgian_Jewish + 26.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.92
19 74.6% Armenian + 25.4% Southwest_French @ 4.93
20 54.7% Central_Greek + 45.3% Georgian_Jewish @ 5





Dodecad k12b

Caucasus 42.72
2 Atlantic_Med 19.7
3 North_European 13.68
4 Southwest_Asian 11.79
5 Gedrosia 10.84
6 Northwest_African 1.11
7 East_African 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish (Dodecad) 9.56
2 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 10.09
3 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 11.37
4 Turks (Behar) 12.14
5 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.26
6 Cypriots (Behar) 12.62
7 Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.93
8 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 12.93
9 Greek (Dodecad) 12.98
10 Lebanese (Behar) 16.76
11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 17.18
12 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 17.91
13 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.37
14 Druze (HGDP) 18.46
15 Armenian (Dodecad) 18.53
16 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.03
17 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 19.28
18 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.73
19 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 19.78
20 Armenians (Behar) 20.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 48.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.39
2 60.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 39.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.41
3 60% Greek (Dodecad) + 40% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 2.54
4 52.4% Armenian (Dodecad) + 47.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.57
5 58.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 41.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.63
6 59.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 40.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.67
7 60.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 39.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.78
8 51.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 48.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.85
9 59.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 40.8% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 3.01
10 63.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 36.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.46
11 51.8% Turks (Behar) + 48.2% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.49
12 70.9% Armenian (Dodecad) + 29.1% French (HGDP) @ 3.61
13 58.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.5% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.64
14 50.1% Armenians (Behar) + 49.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.68
15 60.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 39.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.72
16 60.5% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 39.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.74
17 53.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 46.4% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 3.8
18 50.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 49.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.85
19 50.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 49.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.87
20 62.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 37.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.88



puntDNAL K15


# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 36.27
2 Caucasian 34.31
3 NE_European 17.61
4 SW_Asian 8.97
5 Horn_Of_Africa 2.42
6 Wht_Nile_River 0.28
7 Omo_River 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jew 10.48
2 Turk_Kayseri 10.82
3 Sicilian 11.51
4 Ashkenazy_Jew 12.07
5 Cypriot 12.62
6 Greek_Central 14.27
7 Assyrian 15.67
8 Lebanese 16.1
9 Kurdish 16.37
10 Armenian 16.57
11 Tuscan 16.74
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.77
13 Palestinian 16.8
14 Turk_Istanbul 17.13
15 Turk_Trabzon 17.64
16 Druze 17.82
17 Azerbaijani 18
18 Samaritian 18.16
19 Albanian 18.23
20 Iraqi_Jew 19.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.3% Armenian + 49.7% Tuscan @ 1.28
2 66.5% Armenian + 33.5% Spaniard @ 1.52
3 52.4% Armenian + 47.6% Albanian @ 1.54
4 51.3% Greek_Thessaly + 48.7% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.68
5 58.6% Turk_Trabzon + 41.4% Montenegrin @ 1.71
6 50.8% Turk_Trabzon + 49.2% Albanian @ 1.77
7 55.3% Greek_Central + 44.7% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.82
8 51.7% Assyrian + 48.3% Tuscan @ 1.84
9 65.1% Armenian + 34.9% Portuguese @ 1.84
10 68.8% Ashkenazy_Jew + 31.2% Abkhasian @ 1.87
11 60.8% Assyrian + 39.2% Italian @ 1.96
12 58% Turk_Trabzon + 42% Italian @ 2.16
13 52.4% Greek_Central + 47.6% Assyrian @ 2.16
14 53.8% Assyrian + 46.2% Albanian @ 2.22
15 51.7% Assyrian + 48.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.27
16 51.3% Tuscan + 48.7% Turk_Trabzon @ 2.28
17 59.8% Turk_Trabzon + 40.2% Bulgarian @ 2.32
18 59.5% Armenian + 40.5% Italian @ 2.36
19 70% Sicilian + 30% Abkhasian @ 2.41
20 60.4% Turk_Trabzon + 39.6% Romanian @ 2.48





HarappaWorld


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 43.01
2 Mediterranean 18.85
3 NE-Euro 14.59
4 Baloch 11.78
5 SW-Asian 11.15
6 American 0.42
7 E-African 0.13
8 NE-Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 9.86
2 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 10.5
3 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 10.82
4 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 10.91
5 turk (behar) 11.92
6 cypriot (behar) 11.99
7 ashkenazi (harappa) 12.19
8 sephardic-jew (behar) 12.96
9 turkish (harappa) 13.98
10 armenian (harappa) 15.21
11 azeri (harappa) 16.11
12 morocco-jew (behar) 16.69
13 lebanese (behar) 16.98
14 lebanese-muslim (haber) 17.27
15 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 18.03
16 lebanese-druze (haber) 18.76
17 armenian (behar) 18.85
18 georgia-jew (behar) 19.12
19 syrian (behar) 19.17
20 lebanese-christian (haber) 19.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.1% armenian (yunusbayev) + 48.9% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 1.86
2 60.2% armenian (yunusbayev) + 39.8% italian (hgdp) @ 2.07
3 52.1% armenian (behar) + 47.9% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.24
4 61% ashkenazi (harappa) + 39% armenian (behar) @ 2.52
5 74.9% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 25.1% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 2.6
6 61.2% armenian (behar) + 38.8% italian (hgdp) @ 2.7
7 68.7% ashkenazi (harappa) + 31.3% georgian (harappa) @ 2.73
8 50.9% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 49.1% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.82
9 75.9% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 24.1% georgian (behar) @ 2.89
10 60.1% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 39.9% italian (hgdp) @ 3.11
11 64.9% sephardic-jew (behar) + 35.1% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 3.14
12 69.1% armenian (behar) + 30.9% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 3.15
13 69.3% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 30.7% adygei (hgdp) @ 3.43
14 73% ashkenazi (harappa) + 27% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 3.55
15 52.5% georgia-jew (behar) + 47.5% tuscan (hgdp) @ 3.56
16 64.2% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 35.8% armenian (behar) @ 3.56
17 50.8% assyrian (harappa) + 49.2% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 3.59
18 51.8% georgia-jew (behar) + 48.2% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 3.61
19 69.9% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 30.1% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 3.63
20 74% ashkenazi (harappa) + 26% georgian (behar) @ 3.63




Ancestry DNA


Europe South 53%
Greece, Turkey & Albania
Caucasus 32%
Middle East 12%

Low Confidence Regions
European Jewish 2%
Great Britain <1%

Thracian
05-12-2018, 03:51 PM
Do we have Thracian Greek results? Especially from East Thrace.

WillyWonka
05-12-2018, 04:23 PM
Do we have Thracian Greek results? Especially from East Thrace.

He's half East Thracian. That's the only one I have

WillyWonka
05-12-2018, 08:06 PM
bump

kleenex
05-12-2018, 09:55 PM
Possibly a 1/4 mainland Greek.

WillyWonka
05-15-2018, 10:20 PM
Possibly a 1/4 mainland Greek.

But he scores 53% Europe South on Ancestry, which is quite a lot comparing it to some of his Pontic matches. What part of mainland Greece do you believe he comes from?

kleenex
05-15-2018, 10:33 PM
Pretty Western shifted (towards Italy) on some of the calculators which would lead me to believe Peloponnese possibly. I don't think he's half Peloponnese based on the results I've seen but maybe 1/4 Peloponnese, 1/4 Aegean Islander. He could also be 1/4 Albanian (because of Tuscan sample as a mix on two population result). Just a guess.

WillyWonka
05-15-2018, 10:41 PM
Pretty Western shifted (towards Italy) on some of the calculators which would lead me to believe Peloponnese possibly. I don't think he's half Peloponnese based on the results I've seen but maybe 1/4 Peloponnese, 1/4 Aegean Islander. He could also be 1/4 Albanian (because of Tuscan sample as a mix on two population result). Just a guess.

Tuscan doesn't represent Italian at all?

kleenex
05-15-2018, 10:49 PM
Tuscan doesn't represent Italian at all?

Could I guess just thinking in terms of the Greek mainland.