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hussein khan
09-09-2019, 03:55 PM
when gm is working again
:thumb001:
What about Iranians from Fars (the city of Shiraz)? Do they have any black blood? Arabia is not from there after all.
Khuzestan is the most arab influenced province btw.
Babak
09-09-2019, 07:39 PM
Khuzestan is the most arab influenced province btw.
Yea and whats funny is that Iranian arabs are closer to Persians than to other arab ethnic groups. The only difference is that they have slightly more SW asian and less NE euro
Yea and whats funny is that Iranian arabs are closer to Persians than to other arab ethnic groups. The only difference is that they have slightly more SW asian and less NE euro
really? I saw a result that was heavily SSA, Red_sea ...
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SW-Asian 28.8
2 Caucasian 28.13
3 Baloch 15.96
4 W-African 6.47
5 S-Indian 6.3
6 E-African 6.24
7 Mediterranean 3.62
8 SE-Asian 1.32
9 San 1.03
10 Siberian 0.78
11 Pygmy 0.41
12 American 0.34
13 NE-Euro 0.32
14 Beringian 0.18
15 Papuan 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 yemenese (behar) 11.12
2 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.14
3 jordanian (behar) 15.34
4 palestinian (harappa) 15.34
5 syrian (behar) 15.86
6 palestinian (hgdp) 16.42
7 egyptian (behar) 17.33
8 lebanese (behar) 18.23
9 egypt (henn2012) 19.06
10 lebanese-muslim (haber) 20.59
11 iranian (behar) 20.88
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 21.73
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 22.13
14 iraq-jew (behar) 22.19
15 kurd (harappa) 22.88
16 iranian-jew (behar) 23.02
17 lebanese-christian (haber) 23.79
18 lebanese-druze (haber) 24.14
19 armenian (harappa) 24.16
20 samaritian (behar) 24.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% yemenese (behar) + 19.7% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.17
2 77% yemenese (behar) + 23% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.65
3 80.2% yemenese (behar) + 19.8% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.65
4 80.4% yemenese (behar) + 19.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 4.79
5 80.9% yemenese (behar) + 19.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.81
6 81.7% yemenese (behar) + 18.3% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.88
7 67.1% yemenese (behar) + 32.9% iranian (behar) @ 4.92
8 80.3% yemenese (behar) + 19.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.06
9 81% yemenese (behar) + 19% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 5.09
10 82.4% yemenese (behar) + 17.6% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.13
11 81% yemenese (behar) + 19% kashmiri (harappa) @ 5.14
12 82.1% yemenese (behar) + 17.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.23
13 81.5% yemenese (behar) + 18.5% burusho (hgdp) @ 5.25
14 82.1% yemenese (behar) + 17.9% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 5.25
15 80.8% yemenese (behar) + 19.2% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 5.29
16 81.4% yemenese (behar) + 18.6% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 5.3
17 82.1% yemenese (behar) + 17.9% punjabi (harappa) @ 5.46
18 82.9% yemenese (behar) + 17.1% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 5.47
19 82.9% yemenese (behar) + 17.1% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 5.55
20 82% yemenese (behar) + 18% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 5.6
Thats not iranian-like at all
really? I saw a result that was heavily SSA, Red_sea ...
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SW-Asian 28.8
2 Caucasian 28.13
3 Baloch 15.96
4 W-African 6.47
5 S-Indian 6.3
6 E-African 6.24
7 Mediterranean 3.62
8 SE-Asian 1.32
9 San 1.03
10 Siberian 0.78
11 Pygmy 0.41
12 American 0.34
13 NE-Euro 0.32
14 Beringian 0.18
15 Papuan 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 yemenese (behar) 11.12
2 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.14
3 jordanian (behar) 15.34
4 palestinian (harappa) 15.34
5 syrian (behar) 15.86
6 palestinian (hgdp) 16.42
7 egyptian (behar) 17.33
8 lebanese (behar) 18.23
9 egypt (henn2012) 19.06
10 lebanese-muslim (haber) 20.59
11 iranian (behar) 20.88
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 21.73
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 22.13
14 iraq-jew (behar) 22.19
15 kurd (harappa) 22.88
16 iranian-jew (behar) 23.02
17 lebanese-christian (haber) 23.79
18 lebanese-druze (haber) 24.14
19 armenian (harappa) 24.16
20 samaritian (behar) 24.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% yemenese (behar) + 19.7% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.17
2 77% yemenese (behar) + 23% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.65
3 80.2% yemenese (behar) + 19.8% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.65
4 80.4% yemenese (behar) + 19.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 4.79
5 80.9% yemenese (behar) + 19.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.81
6 81.7% yemenese (behar) + 18.3% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.88
7 67.1% yemenese (behar) + 32.9% iranian (behar) @ 4.92
8 80.3% yemenese (behar) + 19.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.06
9 81% yemenese (behar) + 19% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 5.09
10 82.4% yemenese (behar) + 17.6% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.13
11 81% yemenese (behar) + 19% kashmiri (harappa) @ 5.14
12 82.1% yemenese (behar) + 17.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.23
13 81.5% yemenese (behar) + 18.5% burusho (hgdp) @ 5.25
14 82.1% yemenese (behar) + 17.9% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 5.25
15 80.8% yemenese (behar) + 19.2% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 5.29
16 81.4% yemenese (behar) + 18.6% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 5.3
17 82.1% yemenese (behar) + 17.9% punjabi (harappa) @ 5.46
18 82.9% yemenese (behar) + 17.1% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 5.47
19 82.9% yemenese (behar) + 17.1% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 5.55
20 82% yemenese (behar) + 18% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 5.6
Thats not iranian-like at all
4 W-African 6.47
6 E-African 6.24
Over 12% Negro?! Damn... Can you post his Dodecad World9 and MDLP World, I wanna check his African. He's prolly an Afro-Iranian (partially). Gotta be dark as a bastard :eek:
4 W-African 6.47
6 E-African 6.24
Over 12% Negro?! Damn... Can you post his Dodecad World9 and MDLP World, I wanna check his African. He's prolly an Afro-Iranian (partially). Gotta be dark as a bastard :eek:
Hussein khan posted this result. I don't have the kitnumber. I don't even know if it's actually an iranian arab result. But I know that high SSA is common among Iraqi arabs. So could make sense for iranian arabs aswell..
Hussein khan posted this result. I don't have the kitnumber. I don't even know if it's actually an iranian arab result. But I know that high SSA is common among Iraqi arabs. So could make sense for iranian arabs aswell..
And many Iraqis (if not most) do fit this description:
dark as a bastard
;)
Babak
09-09-2019, 09:18 PM
4 W-African 6.47
6 E-African 6.24
Over 12% Negro?! Damn... Can you post his Dodecad World9 and MDLP World, I wanna check his African. He's prolly an Afro-Iranian (partially). Gotta be dark as a bastard :eek:
Probably half arab half african-bandari
And many Iraqis (if not most) do fit this description:
;)
I have a feeling it's actually an iraqi result
Babak
09-09-2019, 09:20 PM
I have a feeling it's actually an iraqi result
Yea thats a better possibility. I've seen an ahvazi result and its not even close to what that person scoresxD
Yea thats a better possibility. I've seen an ahvazi result and its not even close to what that person scoresxD
well ahvaz does not necessarily mean arab
hussein khan
09-10-2019, 10:58 AM
well ahvaz does not necessarily mean arab
So…..can you finally post these kits of these particulare iranians you were talking about yesterday?
So…..can you finally post these kits of these particulare iranians you were talking about yesterday?
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.91
2 Baloch 28.91
3 SW-Asian 12.73
4 NE-Euro 5.47
5 Mediterranean 4.9
6 S-Indian 4.81
7 Papuan 1.58
8 American 1.02
9 W-African 0.52
10 San 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 3.78
2 iranian (behar) 3.86
3 kurd (harappa) 4.47
4 kurd (xing) 5.74
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 6.37
6 turkish (harappa) 11.29
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 11.5
8 azeri (harappa) 11.59
9 armenian (harappa) 12.95
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 13.77
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 15.32
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.71
13 turk (behar) 15.87
14 assyrian (harappa) 15.87
15 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 15.92
16 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 16.33
17 iranian-jew (behar) 16.68
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 17.63
19 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 17.66
20 iraq-jew (behar) 18.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.1% kurd (xing) + 9.9% vaish (reich) @ 1.76
2 89.9% kurd (xing) + 10.1% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 1.8
3 89.5% kurd (xing) + 10.5% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.81
4 87% kurd (xing) + 13% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 1.83
5 87.9% kurd (xing) + 12.1% up-muslim (harappa) @ 1.83
6 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 1.85
7 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 1.85
8 87.1% kurd (xing) + 12.9% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 1.85
9 90.4% kurd (xing) + 9.6% gujarati (harappa) @ 1.86
10 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% meghawal (reich) @ 1.88
11 89.8% kurd (xing) + 10.2% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.89
12 87.8% kurd (xing) + 12.2% punjabi (harappa) @ 1.89
13 90.5% kurd (xing) + 9.5% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.89
14 90.7% kurd (xing) + 9.3% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 1.9
15 88.3% kurd (xing) + 11.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 1.9
16 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.9
17 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% maharashtrian (harappa) @ 1.92
18 88.6% kurd (xing) + 11.4% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 1.92
19 90.4% kurd (xing) + 9.6% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 1.92
20 88.3% kurd (xing) + 11.7% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 1
The other was Shia Iranian not Shiraz
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.91
2 Baloch 28.91
3 SW-Asian 12.73
4 NE-Euro 5.47
5 Mediterranean 4.9
6 S-Indian 4.81
7 Papuan 1.58
8 American 1.02
9 W-African 0.52
10 San 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 3.78
2 iranian (behar) 3.86
3 kurd (harappa) 4.47
4 kurd (xing) 5.74
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 6.37
6 turkish (harappa) 11.29
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 11.5
8 azeri (harappa) 11.59
9 armenian (harappa) 12.95
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 13.77
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 15.32
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.71
13 turk (behar) 15.87
14 assyrian (harappa) 15.87
15 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 15.92
16 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 16.33
17 iranian-jew (behar) 16.68
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 17.63
19 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 17.66
20 iraq-jew (behar) 18.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.1% kurd (xing) + 9.9% vaish (reich) @ 1.76
2 89.9% kurd (xing) + 10.1% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 1.8
3 89.5% kurd (xing) + 10.5% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.81
4 87% kurd (xing) + 13% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 1.83
5 87.9% kurd (xing) + 12.1% up-muslim (harappa) @ 1.83
6 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 1.85
7 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 1.85
8 87.1% kurd (xing) + 12.9% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 1.85
9 90.4% kurd (xing) + 9.6% gujarati (harappa) @ 1.86
10 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% meghawal (reich) @ 1.88
11 89.8% kurd (xing) + 10.2% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.89
12 87.8% kurd (xing) + 12.2% punjabi (harappa) @ 1.89
13 90.5% kurd (xing) + 9.5% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.89
14 90.7% kurd (xing) + 9.3% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 1.9
15 88.3% kurd (xing) + 11.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 1.9
16 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.9
17 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% maharashtrian (harappa) @ 1.92
18 88.6% kurd (xing) + 11.4% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 1.92
19 90.4% kurd (xing) + 9.6% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 1.92
20 88.3% kurd (xing) + 11.7% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 1
The other was Shia Iranian not Shiraz
The Dodecad results were the very similar, you could've left them.
Ritz06 is half Iranian (mainly Northern) and half Norwegian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 28.19
2 West_Asian 22.85
3 Baltic 15.17
4 East_Med 13.85
5 West_Med 9.59
6 East_Asian 3.42
7 South_Asian 3.35
8 Red_Sea 1.97
9 Siberian 1.01
10 Amerindian 0.53
11 Sub-Saharan 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 15.93
2 Bulgarian 16.87
3 Serbian 17.38
4 Italian_Abruzzo 19.01
5 Greek_Thessaly 19.17
6 Hungarian 20.96
7 Tuscan 21.02
8 Moldavian 21.17
9 West_German 21.44
10 North_Italian 21.47
11 Central_Greek 21.71
12 Austrian 21.74
13 French 22.42
14 West_Sicilian 22.72
15 South_Dutch 22.97
16 East_Sicilian 23.02
17 Croatian 23.64
18 East_German 23.94
19 Nogay 24.27
20 South_Italian 24.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.1% Azeri + 48.9% Irish @ 3.59
2 51.8% Azeri + 48.2% Norwegian @ 3.83
3 52.7% Orcadian + 47.3% Kurdish @ 3.91
4 50.3% Azeri + 49.7% North_Dutch @ 3.92
5 52.5% Irish + 47.5% Kurdish @ 3.95
6 51.6% Azeri + 48.4% West_Scottish @ 3.95
7 52.8% Kumyk + 47.2% Southeast_English @ 3.99
8 50.9% Azeri + 49.1% Orcadian @ 4.01
9 51.8% Norwegian + 48.2% Kurdish @ 4.02
10 53.2% North_Dutch + 46.8% Kurdish @ 4.06
11 50.1% Azeri + 49.9% Danish @ 4.12
12 54.5% French + 45.5% Lezgin @ 4.12
13 52.1% South_Dutch + 47.9% Kumyk @ 4.13
14 52% West_Scottish + 48% Kurdish @ 4.19
15 53.8% West_German + 46.2% Kumyk @ 4.21
16 53.5% Danish + 46.5% Kurdish @ 4.24
17 52% North_German + 48% Azeri @ 4.25
18 53.8% Kumyk + 46.2% Southwest_English @ 4.25
19 55.6% North_German + 44.4% Kurdish @ 4.41
20 51.1% Azeri + 48.9% Southwest_English @ 4.54
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 30.44
2 Caucasian 24.42
3 Mediterranean 18.08
4 Baloch 16.52
5 SW-Asian 4.89
6 NE-Asian 3.54
7 Beringian 1.16
8 S-Indian 0.95
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-a (behar) 12.21
2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 12.95
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 18.52
4 tuscan (hgdp) 18.56
5 tuscan (hapmap) 18.91
6 ashkenazi (harappa) 19.48
7 italian (hgdp) 21.13
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 21.14
9 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 21.68
10 hungarian (behar) 21.87
11 slovenian (xing) 23.15
12 stalskoe (xing) 23.19
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 23.74
14 romanian-b (behar) 24.85
15 tajik (yunusbayev) 25.14
16 french (hgdp) 25.6
17 turkmen (yunusbayev) 26.43
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 27.04
19 urkarah (xing) 27.1
20 sephardic-jew (behar) 28.01
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% azeri (harappa) + 48.3% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.6
2 53.6% n-european (xing) + 46.4% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.63
3 52.2% n-european (xing) + 47.8% iranian (harappa) @ 3.76
4 52.8% utahn-white (hapmap) + 47.2% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.84
5 68.2% romanian-a (behar) + 31.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.86
6 59.5% hungarian (behar) + 40.5% iranian (harappa) @ 3.9
7 51.1% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 48.9% azeri (harappa) @ 4.04
8 50.2% azeri (harappa) + 49.8% british (1000genomes) @ 4.05
9 80.3% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 19.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.06
10 54.1% n-european (xing) + 45.9% kurd (xing) @ 4.07
11 51.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 48.6% iranian (harappa) @ 4.09
12 51.3% n-european (xing) + 48.7% azeri (harappa) @ 4.17
13 53.4% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 46.6% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 4.19
14 52.4% n-european (xing) + 47.6% kurd (harappa) @ 4.22
15 81.4% romanian-a (behar) + 18.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.22
16 80.6% romanian-a (behar) + 19.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.26
17 67% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 33% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.28
18 50.4% turkish (harappa) + 49.6% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 4.28
19 79.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 20.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.33
20 55% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 45% orcadian (hgdp) @ 4.34
hussein khan
09-10-2019, 02:36 PM
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.91
2 Baloch 28.91
3 SW-Asian 12.73
4 NE-Euro 5.47
5 Mediterranean 4.9
6 S-Indian 4.81
7 Papuan 1.58
8 American 1.02
9 W-African 0.52
10 San 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 3.78
2 iranian (behar) 3.86
3 kurd (harappa) 4.47
4 kurd (xing) 5.74
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 6.37
6 turkish (harappa) 11.29
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 11.5
8 azeri (harappa) 11.59
9 armenian (harappa) 12.95
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 13.77
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 15.32
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.71
13 turk (behar) 15.87
14 assyrian (harappa) 15.87
15 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 15.92
16 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 16.33
17 iranian-jew (behar) 16.68
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 17.63
19 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 17.66
20 iraq-jew (behar) 18.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.1% kurd (xing) + 9.9% vaish (reich) @ 1.76
2 89.9% kurd (xing) + 10.1% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 1.8
3 89.5% kurd (xing) + 10.5% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.81
4 87% kurd (xing) + 13% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 1.83
5 87.9% kurd (xing) + 12.1% up-muslim (harappa) @ 1.83
6 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 1.85
7 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 1.85
8 87.1% kurd (xing) + 12.9% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 1.85
9 90.4% kurd (xing) + 9.6% gujarati (harappa) @ 1.86
10 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% meghawal (reich) @ 1.88
11 89.8% kurd (xing) + 10.2% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.89
12 87.8% kurd (xing) + 12.2% punjabi (harappa) @ 1.89
13 90.5% kurd (xing) + 9.5% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.89
14 90.7% kurd (xing) + 9.3% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 1.9
15 88.3% kurd (xing) + 11.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 1.9
16 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.9
17 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% maharashtrian (harappa) @ 1.92
18 88.6% kurd (xing) + 11.4% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 1.92
19 90.4% kurd (xing) + 9.6% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 1.92
20 88.3% kurd (xing) + 11.7% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 1
The other was Shia Iranian not Shiraz
pretty boring results...not much different from other west iranians, if any different.
Ritz06 is half Iranian (mainly Northern) and half Norwegian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 28.19
2 West_Asian 22.85
3 Baltic 15.17
4 East_Med 13.85
5 West_Med 9.59
6 East_Asian 3.42
7 South_Asian 3.35
8 Red_Sea 1.97
9 Siberian 1.01
10 Amerindian 0.53
11 Sub-Saharan 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 15.93
2 Bulgarian 16.87
3 Serbian 17.38
4 Italian_Abruzzo 19.01
5 Greek_Thessaly 19.17
6 Hungarian 20.96
7 Tuscan 21.02
8 Moldavian 21.17
9 West_German 21.44
10 North_Italian 21.47
11 Central_Greek 21.71
12 Austrian 21.74
13 French 22.42
14 West_Sicilian 22.72
15 South_Dutch 22.97
16 East_Sicilian 23.02
17 Croatian 23.64
18 East_German 23.94
19 Nogay 24.27
20 South_Italian 24.83
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.1% Azeri + 48.9% Irish @ 3.59
2 51.8% Azeri + 48.2% Norwegian @ 3.83
3 52.7% Orcadian + 47.3% Kurdish @ 3.91
4 50.3% Azeri + 49.7% North_Dutch @ 3.92
5 52.5% Irish + 47.5% Kurdish @ 3.95
6 51.6% Azeri + 48.4% West_Scottish @ 3.95
7 52.8% Kumyk + 47.2% Southeast_English @ 3.99
8 50.9% Azeri + 49.1% Orcadian @ 4.01
9 51.8% Norwegian + 48.2% Kurdish @ 4.02
10 53.2% North_Dutch + 46.8% Kurdish @ 4.06
11 50.1% Azeri + 49.9% Danish @ 4.12
12 54.5% French + 45.5% Lezgin @ 4.12
13 52.1% South_Dutch + 47.9% Kumyk @ 4.13
14 52% West_Scottish + 48% Kurdish @ 4.19
15 53.8% West_German + 46.2% Kumyk @ 4.21
16 53.5% Danish + 46.5% Kurdish @ 4.24
17 52% North_German + 48% Azeri @ 4.25
18 53.8% Kumyk + 46.2% Southwest_English @ 4.25
19 55.6% North_German + 44.4% Kurdish @ 4.41
20 51.1% Azeri + 48.9% Southwest_English @ 4.54
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 30.44
2 Caucasian 24.42
3 Mediterranean 18.08
4 Baloch 16.52
5 SW-Asian 4.89
6 NE-Asian 3.54
7 Beringian 1.16
8 S-Indian 0.95
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-a (behar) 12.21
2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 12.95
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 18.52
4 tuscan (hgdp) 18.56
5 tuscan (hapmap) 18.91
6 ashkenazi (harappa) 19.48
7 italian (hgdp) 21.13
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 21.14
9 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 21.68
10 hungarian (behar) 21.87
11 slovenian (xing) 23.15
12 stalskoe (xing) 23.19
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 23.74
14 romanian-b (behar) 24.85
15 tajik (yunusbayev) 25.14
16 french (hgdp) 25.6
17 turkmen (yunusbayev) 26.43
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 27.04
19 urkarah (xing) 27.1
20 sephardic-jew (behar) 28.01
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% azeri (harappa) + 48.3% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.6
2 53.6% n-european (xing) + 46.4% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.63
3 52.2% n-european (xing) + 47.8% iranian (harappa) @ 3.76
4 52.8% utahn-white (hapmap) + 47.2% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.84
5 68.2% romanian-a (behar) + 31.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.86
6 59.5% hungarian (behar) + 40.5% iranian (harappa) @ 3.9
7 51.1% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 48.9% azeri (harappa) @ 4.04
8 50.2% azeri (harappa) + 49.8% british (1000genomes) @ 4.05
9 80.3% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 19.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.06
10 54.1% n-european (xing) + 45.9% kurd (xing) @ 4.07
11 51.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 48.6% iranian (harappa) @ 4.09
12 51.3% n-european (xing) + 48.7% azeri (harappa) @ 4.17
13 53.4% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 46.6% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 4.19
14 52.4% n-european (xing) + 47.6% kurd (harappa) @ 4.22
15 81.4% romanian-a (behar) + 18.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.22
16 80.6% romanian-a (behar) + 19.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.26
17 67% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 33% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.28
18 50.4% turkish (harappa) + 49.6% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 4.28
19 79.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 20.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.33
20 55% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 45% orcadian (hgdp) @ 4.34
looks like his father/mother has azeri roots
hussein khan
09-10-2019, 03:04 PM
Most steppe-shifted south east iranian along with most steppe-shifted iranian too(for me....cant confirm if he even is from iran, but he hasnt answered be from the mail i send to him from 15th august, so we might just go with assumptions....):
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.26
2 Baloch 30.17
3 NE-Euro 10.1
4 SW-Asian 9.37
5 S-Indian 8.59
6 Mediterranean 3.64
7 Beringian 1.92
8 Papuan 1.04
9 E-African 0.81
10 Siberian 0.81
11 SE-Asian 0.28
12 W-African 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 9.95
2 iranian (behar) 10.59
3 turkmen (yunusbayev) 11.74
4 kurd (harappa) 11.77
5 kurd (xing) 13.91
6 kurd (yunusbayev) 14.23
7 azeri (harappa) 16.13
8 tajik (yunusbayev) 16.24
9 turkish (harappa) 16.42
10 stalskoe (xing) 17.04
11 pashtun (harappa) 17.04
12 iraqi-arab (harappa) 18.81
13 lezgin (behar) 19.02
14 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 19.03
15 kumyk (yunusbayev) 19.1
16 urkarah (xing) 19.61
17 armenian (harappa) 19.75
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 19.84
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 20.34
20 turk (behar) 20.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.3% kurd (xing) + 31.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.41
2 75.6% iranian (harappa) + 24.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.87
3 55.3% kurd (xing) + 44.7% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.1
4 68% kurd (yunusbayev) + 32% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.38
5 72.3% kurd (harappa) + 27.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.4
6 64.1% iranian (harappa) + 35.9% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.46
7 75.9% iranian (harappa) + 24.1% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.57
8 68.6% kurd (xing) + 31.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.6
9 59.8% kurd (harappa) + 40.2% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.6
10 72.2% iranian (harappa) + 27.8% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.72
11 68.2% kurd (harappa) + 31.8% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.73
12 67.6% kurd (harappa) + 32.4% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.82
13 55.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 44.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.82
14 72.8% kurd (xing) + 27.2% nepalese-a (xing) @ 3.88
15 74.6% iranian (harappa) + 25.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.89
16 72.6% kurd (harappa) + 27.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 4.02
17 66.9% kurd (xing) + 33.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 4.07
18 75.9% iranian (harappa) + 24.1% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.07
19 71.8% iranian (harappa) + 28.2% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.08
20 75.1% iranian (behar) + 24.9% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 4.15
hussein khan
09-10-2019, 03:13 PM
Another south east iranian apparently:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 32.33
2 Caucasian 30.89
3 SW-Asian 12.51
4 S-Indian 9.9
5 NE-Euro 4.52
6 Mediterranean 3.61
7 W-African 2.14
8 E-African 1.23
9 Beringian 0.75
10 American 0.73
11 Pygmy 0.67
12 NE-Asian 0.46
13 San 0.2
14 Siberian 0.04
15 Papuan 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 10.42
2 iranian (harappa) 11.99
3 kurd (harappa) 13.2
4 turkmen (yunusbayev) 14.55
5 kurd (xing) 15.24
6 kurd (yunusbayev) 16.19
7 pashtun (harappa) 16.99
8 iraqi-arab (harappa) 18.01
9 tajik (yunusbayev) 19.04
10 turkish (harappa) 19.16
11 azeri (harappa) 19.66
12 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 20.07
13 armenian (harappa) 21.37
14 kalash (hgdp) 22.96
15 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 23.01
16 stalskoe (xing) 23.41
17 pathan (hgdp) 23.43
18 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 23.65
19 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 23.77
20 turk (behar) 23.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.5% iranian (behar) + 25.5% sindhi (hgdp) @ 1.81
2 75% iranian (behar) + 25% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 2.35
3 73% iranian (behar) + 27% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.6
4 71.2% iranian (behar) + 28.8% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.67
5 76.1% iranian (behar) + 23.9% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.87
6 76.8% iranian (behar) + 23.2% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.96
7 76.3% iranian (behar) + 23.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 2.98
8 70% iranian (behar) + 30% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.05
9 74.1% iranian (behar) + 25.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.09
10 75.1% iranian (behar) + 24.9% punjabi (harappa) @ 3.11
11 76.1% iranian (behar) + 23.9% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.13
12 73.7% iranian (behar) + 26.3% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 3.18
13 72.4% iranian (behar) + 27.6% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.2
14 54.5% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 45.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.26
15 75% iranian (behar) + 25% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 3.28
16 69.8% iranian (behar) + 30.2% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.49
17 72.9% iranian (behar) + 27.1% kashmiri (harappa) @ 3.52
18 73.6% iranian (behar) + 26.4% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 3.52
19 52.7% iranian-jew (behar) + 47.3% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.53
20 73.2% iranian (behar) + 26.8% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.6
another iranian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.09
2 Baloch 27.58
3 SW-Asian 16.05
4 S-Indian 8.47
5 NE-Euro 2.87
6 Mediterranean 2.62
7 W-African 2.47
8 Siberian 0.81
9 E-African 0.66
10 San 0.47
11 American 0.28
12 SE-Asian 0.25
13 Beringian 0.22
14 Papuan 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 5.34
2 iranian (harappa) 8.31
3 kurd (harappa) 8.36
4 kurd (xing) 10.28
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 11.15
6 iraqi-arab (harappa) 12.12
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 13.3
8 turkish (harappa) 14.42
9 azeri (harappa) 14.85
10 armenian (harappa) 15.39
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 15.75
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 16.47
13 iranian-jew (behar) 17.3
14 assyrian (harappa) 17.86
15 palestinian (harappa) 17.88
16 iraq-jew (behar) 18.47
17 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 18.99
18 turk (behar) 19.09
19 syrian (behar) 19.31
20 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 19.58
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% iranian (behar) + 6% hakkipikki (metspalu) @ 3.27
2 94.2% iranian (behar) + 5.8% mala (reich) @ 3.27
3 94.2% iranian (behar) + 5.8% tn-dalit (xing) @ 3.28
4 93.8% iranian (behar) + 6.2% tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) @ 3.28
5 94% iranian (behar) + 6% ap-madiga (xing) @ 3.28
6 93.8% iranian (behar) + 6.2% sakilli (chaubey) @ 3.28
7 93.3% iranian (behar) + 6.7% naidu (reich) @ 3.29
8 94% iranian (behar) + 6% madiga (reich) @ 3.29
9 93.4% iranian (behar) + 6.6% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 3.29
10 93.1% iranian (behar) + 6.9% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 3.3
11 93.7% iranian (behar) + 6.3% kamsali (reich) @ 3.3
12 94% iranian (behar) + 6% kurumba (reich) @ 3.31
13 93.6% iranian (behar) + 6.4% vysya (reich) @ 3.31
14 94.2% iranian (behar) + 5.8% ap-mala (xing) @ 3.32
15 94% iranian (behar) + 6% north-kannadi (chaubey) @ 3.32
16 93.2% iranian (behar) + 6.8% tamil-nadar (harappa) @ 3.33
17 93.4% iranian (behar) + 6.6% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) @ 3.33
18 93.3% iranian (behar) + 6.7% kurumba (metspalu) @ 3.33
19 93.9% iranian (behar) + 6.1% bhil (reich) @ 3.36
20 93.9% iranian (behar) + 6.1% chamar (metspalu) @ 3.37
Most steppe-shifted south east iranian along with most steppe-shifted iranian too(for me....cant confirm if he even is from iran, but he hasnt answered be from the mail i send to him from 15th august, so we might just go with assumptions....):
how do you detect steppe? Just by looking at NEeuro?
My father has around 11% on harappa
hussein khan
09-10-2019, 03:43 PM
how do you detect steppe? Just by looking at NEeuro?
My father has around 11% on harappa
I do, yeah.
But maybe he doesnt get too high....but then again, azeris can be pretty turkish leaning with their lower CHG and higher med.
This kit is interesting to me. If he isnt half punjabi, half levantine, he got to be from south east iran and got the most interesting results(which i doubt he is....but i havent asked him yet.....):
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 26.95
2 Caucasian 25.93
3 S-Indian 16.38
4 SW-Asian 11.61
5 NE-Euro 8.09
6 Mediterranean 4.92
7 Siberian 2.15
8 W-African 1.47
9 NE-Asian 1.37
10 Beringian 0.36
11 San 0.35
12 E-African 0.27
13 Papuan 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 12.68
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 14.16
3 iranian (behar) 16.86
4 tajik (yunusbayev) 17.11
5 romanian-b (behar) 17.49
6 iranian (harappa) 17.71
7 kurd (harappa) 18.7
8 bene-israel-jew (behar) 18.89
9 pathan (hgdp) 20.13
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 20.83
11 kalash (hgdp) 21.05
12 sindhi (harappa) 21.07
13 kashmiri (harappa) 21.34
14 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 21.45
15 turkish (harappa) 21.95
16 kurd (xing) 21.95
17 kurd (yunusbayev) 22.16
18 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 22.22
19 azeri (harappa) 22.57
20 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 22.97
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.7% sindhi (harappa) + 42.3% lebanese (behar) @ 2.77
2 50.8% nepalese-a (xing) + 49.2% iraq-jew (behar) @ 2.83
3 56.2% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 43.8% syrian (behar) @ 2.87
4 57.3% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 42.7% lebanese (behar) @ 2.94
5 53.7% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 46.3% syrian (behar) @ 2.99
6 56.7% sindhi (harappa) + 43.3% syrian (behar) @ 3
7 56.4% kashmiri (harappa) + 43.6% syrian (behar) @ 3.02
8 52.6% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 47.4% syrian (behar) @ 3.08
9 55.4% kashmiri (harappa) + 44.6% palestinian (harappa) @ 3.12
10 58.2% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 41.8% nepalese-a (xing) @ 3.12
11 55.3% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 44.7% palestinian (harappa) @ 3.13
12 54.1% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 45.9% nepalese-a (xing) @ 3.15
13 65.5% pathan (hgdp) + 34.5% samaritian (behar) @ 3.18
14 58.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 41.7% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 3.18
15 55.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 44.7% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 3.22
16 51.7% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 48.3% palestinian (harappa) @ 3.26
17 50.7% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 49.3% syrian (behar) @ 3.3
18 75.5% pashtun (harappa) + 24.5% samaritian (behar) @ 3.33
19 50.4% nepalese-a (xing) + 49.6% iranian-jew (behar) @ 3.37
20 50.9% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 49.1% nepalese-a (xing) @ 3.38
Babak
09-11-2019, 01:52 AM
Have seen a couple of results from regular Persians from Shiraz. They seemed to be on the southern end of the usual West Iranian cline, meaning more Gedrosian/Baloch than in the Northwest and a bit less Euro.
Shiraz Persian
Gedrosia 28,47
NW Africa 2,08
Atlantic_med 6,12
Northeuro 5,61
Southasian 5,29
SW_Asian 12,49
Eastasian 1,15
Caucasus 38,78
(Edit this one's not from Shiraz, it's a Shiite result):
Gedrosia 27,33
Southeast_asia1,83
Atlantic_med 3,15
North_euro 5,21
South_asia 4,61
East_african 2,11
SW_Asian 17,63
East_asian 0,76
Caucasus 37,36
From where?
hussein khan
09-11-2019, 02:35 PM
All iranians labelled as shiraz iranians:
Admix Results (sorted):(i wont post entire gedmatch results similiar to this one, since we already have an idea what their results are like and it be kind of time wasting to keep posting full results)
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.91
2 Baloch 28.91
3 SW-Asian 12.73
4 NE-Euro 5.47
5 Mediterranean 4.9
6 S-Indian 4.81
7 Papuan 1.58
8 American 1.02
9 W-African 0.52
10 San 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 3.78
2 iranian (behar) 3.86
3 kurd (harappa) 4.47
4 kurd (xing) 5.74
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 6.37
6 turkish (harappa) 11.29
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 11.5
8 azeri (harappa) 11.59
9 armenian (harappa) 12.95
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 13.77
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 15.32
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.71
13 turk (behar) 15.87
14 assyrian (harappa) 15.87
15 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 15.92
16 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 16.33
17 iranian-jew (behar) 16.68
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 17.63
19 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 17.66
20 iraq-jew (behar) 18.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.1% kurd (xing) + 9.9% vaish (reich) @ 1.76
2 89.9% kurd (xing) + 10.1% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 1.8
3 89.5% kurd (xing) + 10.5% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.81
4 87% kurd (xing) + 13% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 1.83
5 87.9% kurd (xing) + 12.1% up-muslim (harappa) @ 1.83
6 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 1.85
7 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 1.85
8 87.1% kurd (xing) + 12.9% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 1.85
9 90.4% kurd (xing) + 9.6% gujarati (harappa) @ 1.86
10 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% meghawal (reich) @ 1.88
11 89.8% kurd (xing) + 10.2% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.89
12 87.8% kurd (xing) + 12.2% punjabi (harappa) @ 1.89
13 90.5% kurd (xing) + 9.5% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.89
14 90.7% kurd (xing) + 9.3% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 1.9
15 88.3% kurd (xing) + 11.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 1.9
16 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.9
17 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% maharashtrian (harappa) @ 1.92
18 88.6% kurd (xing) + 11.4% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 1.92
19 90.4% kurd (xing) + 9.6% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 1.92
20 88.3% kurd (xing) + 11.7% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 1.93
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.48
2 Baloch 26.55
3 SW-Asian 17.96
4 NE-Euro 4.97
5 S-Indian 4.5
6 NE-Asian 2.31
7 Papuan 1.16
8 Mediterranean 0.62
9 E-African 0.5
10 San 0.41
11 American 0.37
12 SE-Asian 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 5.86
2 kurd (harappa) 7.45
3 kurd (xing) 7.65
4 iranian (harappa) 7.89
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 8.68
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 10.37
7 iraqi-arab (harappa) 11.49
8 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 12.88
9 turkish (harappa) 13.09
10 azeri (harappa) 13.28
11 armenian (harappa) 13.64
12 iranian-jew (behar) 14.24
13 assyrian (harappa) 14.93
14 iraq-jew (behar) 15.71
15 palestinian (harappa) 16.53
16 georgia-jew (behar) 16.67
17 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 16.79
18 turk (behar) 17.25
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 17.37
20 turkmen (yunusbayev) 17.62
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.3% iranian (behar) + 5.7% yemen-jew (behar) @ 5.37
2 94.9% iranian (behar) + 5.1% saudi (behar) @ 5.37
3 88.8% kurd (xing) + 11.2% qatari (henn2012) @ 5.48
4 95.7% iranian (behar) + 4.3% qatari (henn2012) @ 5.53
5 87.8% iranian (behar) + 12.2% iranian-jew (behar) @ 5.57
6 86.6% iranian (behar) + 13.4% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 5.57
7 96.2% iranian (behar) + 3.8% bedouin (hgdp) @ 5.59
8 90.4% iranian (behar) + 9.6% iraq-jew (behar) @ 5.65
9 94.7% iranian (behar) + 5.3% druze (hgdp) @ 5.67
10 91.7% iranian (behar) + 8.3% georgia-jew (behar) @ 5.69
11 86% iranian (behar) + 14% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 5.69
12 94.8% iranian (behar) + 5.2% georgian (harappa) @ 5.72
13 95.7% iranian (behar) + 4.3% samaritian (behar) @ 5.73
14 92.5% iranian (behar) + 7.5% assyrian (harappa) @ 5.75
15 93.6% iranian (behar) + 6.4% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 5.76
16 96.5% iranian (behar) + 3.5% yemenese (behar) @ 5.76
17 99% iranian (behar) + 1% japanese (1000genomes) @ 5.77
18 97.1% iranian (behar) + 2.9% georgian (behar) @ 5.77
19 97% iranian (behar) + 3% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 5.78
20 94.7% iranian (behar) + 5.3% syrian (behar) @ 5.78
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.2
2 Caucasian 31.34
3 SW-Asian 12.57
4 S-Indian 8.64
5 NE-Euro 3.57
6 Mediterranean 2.81
7 Pygmy 1.21
8 Siberian 1.19
9 E-African 0.63
10 SE-Asian 0.43
11 Papuan 0.25
12 American 0.17
13 Beringian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 12.42
2 iranian (harappa) 13.65
3 kurd (harappa) 15.1
4 kurd (xing) 16.15
5 turkmen (yunusbayev) 16.64
6 kurd (yunusbayev) 17.42
7 pashtun (harappa) 18
8 tajik (yunusbayev) 19.95
9 iraqi-arab (harappa) 20.97
10 makrani (hgdp) 21.67
11 turkish (harappa) 21.82
12 azeri (harappa) 22.05
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 22.14
14 kalash (hgdp) 22.25
15 balochi (hgdp) 22.79
16 pathan (hgdp) 23.18
17 armenian (harappa) 23.82
18 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 24.76
19 sindhi (harappa) 25.04
20 stalskoe (xing) 25.15
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.6% balochi (hgdp) + 44.4% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 2.77
2 65.1% iranian (behar) + 34.9% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.79
3 56.1% balochi (hgdp) + 43.9% georgia-jew (behar) @ 2.87
4 60.4% kurd (harappa) + 39.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.06
5 50.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 49.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.09
6 63.6% balochi (hgdp) + 36.4% druze (hgdp) @ 3.12
7 53.9% balochi (hgdp) + 46.1% assyrian (harappa) @ 3.21
8 68.1% iranian (behar) + 31.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.21
9 60.6% brahui (hgdp) + 39.4% druze (hgdp) @ 3.49
10 63.6% kurd (harappa) + 36.4% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.5
11 59.3% kurd (harappa) + 40.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.61
12 64.3% iranian (behar) + 35.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.69
13 52.5% brahui (hgdp) + 47.5% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 3.76
14 53.8% balochi (hgdp) + 46.2% iranian-jew (behar) @ 3.88
15 53% brahui (hgdp) + 47% georgia-jew (behar) @ 3.92
16 54% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 46% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.98
17 57.8% balochi (hgdp) + 42.2% armenian (behar) @ 3.99
18 57% makrani (hgdp) + 43% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 4.18
19 53.9% brahui (hgdp) + 46.1% armenian (yunusbayev) @ 4.2
20 52.1% balochi (hgdp) + 47.9% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 4.22
hussein khan
09-11-2019, 02:39 PM
More shiraz iranians:
Population
S-Indian 4.61 Pct
Baloch 26.96 Pct
Caucasian 37.37 Pct
NE-Euro 6.11 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 2.21 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.19 Pct
American -
Beringian 2.53 Pct
Mediterranean 4.39 Pct
SW-Asian 12.86 Pct
San 0.30 Pct
E-African 0.89 Pct
Pygmy 1.33 Pct
W-African 0.24 Pct
Admix Results (sorted):(this one even gets less baloch than hadouken)
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.69
2 Baloch 22.74
3 SW-Asian 14.31
4 Mediterranean 7.69
5 NE-Euro 6.1
6 S-Indian 5.71
7 Siberian 2.79
8 American 2.1
9 Papuan 1.27
10 E-African 0.92
11 Pygmy 0.76
12 SE-Asian 0.64
13 Beringian 0.18
14 San 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 7.35
2 kurd (harappa) 7.48
3 iranian (harappa) 8.35
4 turkish (harappa) 9.86
5 iraqi-arab (harappa) 9.93
6 kurd (xing) 11.39
7 kurd (yunusbayev) 11.51
8 azeri (harappa) 11.99
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.2
10 armenian (harappa) 12.58
11 turkmen (yunusbayev) 13.29
12 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 13.97
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 14.61
14 turk (behar) 14.62
15 palestinian (harappa) 15.16
16 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 16.07
17 syrian (behar) 16.49
18 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 16.53
19 lebanese-muslim (haber) 17.18
20 lebanese (behar) 17.29
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.5% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 34.5% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.02
2 68.5% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 31.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.05
3 65.6% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 34.4% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.11
4 65.4% lebanese (behar) + 34.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.14
5 59% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 41% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.2
6 89.1% iranian (behar) + 10.9% colombian (1000genomes) @ 4.28
7 78.3% iranian (behar) + 21.7% romanian-b (behar) @ 4.3
8 53.7% lebanese-christian (haber) + 46.3% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.3
9 71% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 29% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.35
10 88.3% iranian (behar) + 11.7% puerto-rican (1000genomes) @ 4.35
11 86% iranian (harappa) + 14% libya (henn2012) @ 4.54
12 55% lebanese-druze (haber) + 45% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.64
13 88.6% iranian (harappa) + 11.4% saharawi (henn2012) @ 4.64
14 60.7% lebanese-christian (haber) + 39.3% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.65
15 88.6% iranian (harappa) + 11.4% mozabite (hgdp) @ 4.69
16 76.3% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 23.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 4.69
17 78.7% kurd (harappa) + 21.3% romanian-b (behar) @ 4.71
18 63.8% lebanese-christian (haber) + 36.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.71
19 89.9% iranian (behar) + 10.1% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 4.72
20 60.6% lebanese-christian (haber) + 39.4% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.74
Population
S-Indian 5.14 Pct
Baloch 26.08 Pct
Caucasian 39.48 Pct
NE-Euro 5.00 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 2.12 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.58 Pct
American -
Beringian -
Mediterranean 6.19 Pct
SW-Asian 15.00 Pct
San -
E-African 0.37 Pct
Pygmy -
W-African -
Population
S-Indian 5.77 Pct
Baloch 27.50 Pct
Caucasian 36.36 Pct
NE-Euro 7.08 Pct
SE-Asian 1.07 Pct
Siberian 0.52 Pct
NE-Asian 1.19 Pct
Papuan -
American 1.12 Pct
Beringian 0.38 Pct
Mediterranean 5.37 Pct
SW-Asian 13.05 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy 0.25 Pct
W-African 0.34 Pct
Population
S-Indian 3.47 Pct
Baloch 27.49 Pct
Caucasian 37.23 Pct
NE-Euro 5.82 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian -
NE-Asian 0.69 Pct
Papuan 0.71 Pct
American 1.66 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 5.73 Pct
SW-Asian 14.01 Pct
San 0.78 Pct
E-African 1.20 Pct
Pygmy -
W-African 1.19 Pc
Population
S-Indian 3.65 Pct
Baloch 27.18 Pct
Caucasian 36.96 Pct
NE-Euro 7.18 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 0.56 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American 1.39 Pct
Beringian 0.98 Pct
Mediterranean 5.73 Pct
SW-Asian 13.20 Pct
San -
E-African 1.57 Pct
Pygmy 1.38 Pct
W-African 0.20 Pc
Admix Results (sorted):(this one oddly gets lower baloch than many other west iranians, but also a lot higher SI....)
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.71
2 Baloch 24.72
3 S-Indian 11.51
4 SW-Asian 11.45
5 NE-Euro 6.92
6 Mediterranean 5.79
7 Siberian 1.22
8 NE-Asian 1.14
9 E-African 0.9
10 Beringian 0.72
11 SE-Asian 0.67
12 W-African 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 9.31
2 iranian (harappa) 9.34
3 kurd (harappa) 10.11
4 turkmen (yunusbayev) 12.44
5 turkish (harappa) 13.23
6 kurd (yunusbayev) 13.36
7 kurd (xing) 13.61
8 azeri (harappa) 13.68
9 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.4
10 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 15.85
11 armenian (harappa) 15.99
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 17.03
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 17.08
14 turk (behar) 17.32
15 romanian-b (behar) 19.19
16 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 19.44
17 stalskoe (xing) 19.6
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 19.71
19 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 19.74
20 pashtun (harappa) 19.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.1% georgia-jew (behar) + 40.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.03
2 62.9% georgia-jew (behar) + 37.1% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.07
3 70.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 29.6% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.21
4 53.4% lebanese-druze (haber) + 46.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.22
5 53% pathan (hgdp) + 47% druze (hgdp) @ 2.35
6 64.5% assyrian (harappa) + 35.5% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.38
7 59.4% georgia-jew (behar) + 40.6% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.46
8 63.2% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 36.8% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.55
9 71.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 28.3% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.57
10 51% druze (hgdp) + 49% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.62
11 59.7% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 40.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.63
12 65% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 35% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.66
13 72.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 27.3% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.72
14 61% assyrian (harappa) + 39% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.72
15 52.7% pashtun (harappa) + 47.3% georgia-jew (behar) @ 2.72
16 67.6% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 32.4% up-muslim (harappa) @ 2.73
17 64.9% armenian (harappa) + 35.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.78
18 82.8% kurd (harappa) + 17.2% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 2.8
19 52.1% lebanese-christian (haber) + 47.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.81
20 84.2% kurd (harappa) + 15.8% tharu (reich) @ 2.81
hussein khan
09-11-2019, 02:42 PM
SOme lur iranians:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.56
2 Baloch 24.44
3 SW-Asian 16.76
4 Mediterranean 6.97
5 Siberian 3.62
6 S-Indian 2.09
7 NE-Asian 1.42
8 NE-Euro 0.85
9 SE-Asian 0.63
10 W-African 0.63
11 Papuan 0.52
12 E-African 0.43
13 American 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (harappa) 5.66
2 iranian (behar) 6.27
3 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 7.09
4 kurd (xing) 7.18
5 iranian (harappa) 7.64
6 kurd (yunusbayev) 7.66
7 iraqi-arab (harappa) 8.79
8 armenian (harappa) 8.93
9 turkish (harappa) 9.26
10 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 9.41
11 iranian-jew (behar) 10.71
12 assyrian (harappa) 10.99
13 azeri (harappa) 11
14 iraq-jew (behar) 11.94
15 palestinian (harappa) 12.95
16 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.05
17 georgia-jew (behar) 13.23
18 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 13.39
19 turk (behar) 13.79
20 lebanese-muslim (haber) 14.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 32.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 3.84
2 66.9% iranian (behar) + 33.1% iranian-jew (behar) @ 3.87
3 69.6% iranian (behar) + 30.4% iraq-jew (behar) @ 3.88
4 63.7% iranian (behar) + 36.3% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 3.95
5 77.3% iranian (behar) + 22.7% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 3.96
6 76.3% iranian (behar) + 23.7% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 4.05
7 77% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 23% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.12
8 68.6% kurd (harappa) + 31.4% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 4.12
9 68.4% iranian (behar) + 31.6% assyrian (harappa) @ 4.14
10 74.8% georgia-jew (behar) + 25.2% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.15
11 57% kurd (xing) + 43% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 4.19
12 74.8% kurd (harappa) + 25.2% iraq-jew (behar) @ 4.22
13 76.9% georgia-jew (behar) + 23.1% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.23
14 72.5% kurd (harappa) + 27.5% iranian-jew (behar) @ 4.25
15 73.3% iranian (behar) + 26.7% georgia-jew (behar) @ 4.3
16 75% iranian (behar) + 25% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 4.3
17 75.7% georgia-jew (behar) + 24.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.32
18 73% iranian (behar) + 27% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 4.33
19 86.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 13.1% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.33
20 84% iranian (behar) + 16% samaritian (behar) @ 4.36
Population
S-Indian 3.15 Pct
Baloch 28.99 Pct
Caucasian 40.46 Pct
NE-Euro 2.14 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 1.37 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.81 Pct
American -
Beringian 2.10 Pct
Mediterranean 7.99 Pct
SW-Asian 12.45 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy 0.29 Pct
W-African 0.18 Pc
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.7
2 Baloch 27.95
3 SW-Asian 14.56
4 S-Indian 6.63
5 Mediterranean 5.99
6 NE-Euro 4.36
7 Beringian 1.31
8 SE-Asian 1.15
9 Pygmy 0.35
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 3.63
2 kurd (harappa) 5.5
3 iranian (harappa) 5.57
4 kurd (xing) 8.09
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 8.7
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 11.77
7 iraqi-arab (harappa) 11.85
8 turkish (harappa) 11.97
9 azeri (harappa) 12.87
10 armenian (harappa) 13.32
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 15.08
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.53
13 assyrian (harappa) 16.53
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 16.54
15 iranian-jew (behar) 16.61
16 turk (behar) 16.82
17 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 17.18
18 palestinian (harappa) 17.44
19 iraq-jew (behar) 17.73
20 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 18.36
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 23.3% sindhi (hgdp) @ 2.39
2 67.1% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 32.9% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.41
3 63.4% iraq-jew (behar) + 36.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.46
4 91.9% iranian (behar) + 8.1% bene-israel-jew (behar) @ 2.46
5 94.1% iranian (behar) + 5.9% cochin-jew (behar) @ 2.48
6 95.7% iranian (behar) + 4.3% lodi (reich) @ 2.5
7 95.8% iranian (behar) + 4.2% hallaki (reich) @ 2.5
8 95.2% iranian (behar) + 4.8% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 2.51
9 95.8% iranian (behar) + 4.2% dusadh (metspalu) @ 2.51
10 95.4% iranian (behar) + 4.6% tharu (metspalu) @ 2.51
11 95.4% iranian (behar) + 4.6% dharkar (metspalu) @ 2.51
12 95.4% iranian (behar) + 4.6% up-muslim (metspalu) @ 2.52
13 95.6% iranian (behar) + 4.4% kanjar (metspalu) @ 2.52
14 95.9% iranian (behar) + 4.1% kol (metspalu) @ 2.52
15 95.7% iranian (behar) + 4.3% up-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.52
16 95.2% iranian (behar) + 4.8% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) @ 2.52
17 95.6% iranian (behar) + 4.4% velama (metspalu) @ 2.53
18 95.7% iranian (behar) + 4.3% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.53
19 96% iranian (behar) + 4% vysya (reich) @ 2.53
20 95.5% iranian (behar) + 4.5% karnataka (harappa) @ 2.53
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 42.12
2 Baloch 23.7
3 SW-Asian 14.24
4 Mediterranean 6.15
5 S-Indian 5.98
6 NE-Euro 4.26
7 NE-Asian 1.5
8 Beringian 1.19
9 San 0.44
10 American 0.27
11 Papuan 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (harappa) 3.94
2 iranian (harappa) 5.34
3 iranian (behar) 5.51
4 kurd (yunusbayev) 6.03
5 kurd (xing) 6.69
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 7.48
7 turkish (harappa) 7.78
8 armenian (harappa) 8.42
9 azeri (harappa) 8.6
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 10.2
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 11.43
12 assyrian (harappa) 11.82
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 12.2
14 turk (behar) 12.28
15 iranian-jew (behar) 12.55
16 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 13.08
17 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 13.34
18 georgia-jew (behar) 13.75
19 iraq-jew (behar) 13.82
20 palestinian (harappa) 14.93
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.6% assyrian (harappa) + 29.4% pashtun (harappa) @ 1.5
2 77.6% assyrian (harappa) + 22.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 1.8
3 76.8% assyrian (harappa) + 23.2% burusho (hgdp) @ 1.81
4 77.8% assyrian (harappa) + 22.2% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 1.87
5 79.8% assyrian (harappa) + 20.2% nepalese-a (xing) @ 1.94
6 71.9% georgia-jew (behar) + 28.1% kalash (hgdp) @ 1.95
7 76.3% assyrian (harappa) + 23.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 1.98
8 74.6% georgia-jew (behar) + 25.4% bhatia (harappa) @ 2
9 75.3% assyrian (harappa) + 24.7% pathan (hgdp) @ 2
10 73.9% georgia-jew (behar) + 26.1% burusho (hgdp) @ 2
11 76.1% assyrian (harappa) + 23.9% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.02
12 72.3% georgia-jew (behar) + 27.7% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.08
13 76.4% assyrian (harappa) + 23.6% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.21
14 78.8% assyrian (harappa) + 21.2% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.28
15 79% assyrian (harappa) + 21% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 2.28
16 77.3% assyrian (harappa) + 22.7% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 2.3
17 74.6% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 25.4% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.31
18 77.5% assyrian (harappa) + 22.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.33
19 84.1% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 15.9% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.37
20 78.2% assyrian (harappa) + 21.8% punjabi (harappa) @ 2.38
Babak
09-11-2019, 07:36 PM
More shiraz iranians:
Population
S-Indian 4.61 Pct
Baloch 26.96 Pct
Caucasian 37.37 Pct
NE-Euro 6.11 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 2.21 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.19 Pct
American -
Beringian 2.53 Pct
Mediterranean 4.39 Pct
SW-Asian 12.86 Pct
San 0.30 Pct
E-African 0.89 Pct
Pygmy 1.33 Pct
W-African 0.24 Pct
Admix Results (sorted):(this one even gets less baloch than hadouken)
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.69
2 Baloch 22.74
3 SW-Asian 14.31
4 Mediterranean 7.69
5 NE-Euro 6.1
6 S-Indian 5.71
7 Siberian 2.79
8 American 2.1
9 Papuan 1.27
10 E-African 0.92
11 Pygmy 0.76
12 SE-Asian 0.64
13 Beringian 0.18
14 San 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 7.35
2 kurd (harappa) 7.48
3 iranian (harappa) 8.35
4 turkish (harappa) 9.86
5 iraqi-arab (harappa) 9.93
6 kurd (xing) 11.39
7 kurd (yunusbayev) 11.51
8 azeri (harappa) 11.99
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.2
10 armenian (harappa) 12.58
11 turkmen (yunusbayev) 13.29
12 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 13.97
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 14.61
14 turk (behar) 14.62
15 palestinian (harappa) 15.16
16 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 16.07
17 syrian (behar) 16.49
18 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 16.53
19 lebanese-muslim (haber) 17.18
20 lebanese (behar) 17.29
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.5% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 34.5% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.02
2 68.5% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 31.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.05
3 65.6% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 34.4% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.11
4 65.4% lebanese (behar) + 34.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.14
5 59% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 41% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.2
6 89.1% iranian (behar) + 10.9% colombian (1000genomes) @ 4.28
7 78.3% iranian (behar) + 21.7% romanian-b (behar) @ 4.3
8 53.7% lebanese-christian (haber) + 46.3% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.3
9 71% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 29% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.35
10 88.3% iranian (behar) + 11.7% puerto-rican (1000genomes) @ 4.35
11 86% iranian (harappa) + 14% libya (henn2012) @ 4.54
12 55% lebanese-druze (haber) + 45% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.64
13 88.6% iranian (harappa) + 11.4% saharawi (henn2012) @ 4.64
14 60.7% lebanese-christian (haber) + 39.3% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.65
15 88.6% iranian (harappa) + 11.4% mozabite (hgdp) @ 4.69
16 76.3% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 23.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 4.69
17 78.7% kurd (harappa) + 21.3% romanian-b (behar) @ 4.71
18 63.8% lebanese-christian (haber) + 36.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.71
19 89.9% iranian (behar) + 10.1% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 4.72
20 60.6% lebanese-christian (haber) + 39.4% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.74
Population
S-Indian 5.14 Pct
Baloch 26.08 Pct
Caucasian 39.48 Pct
NE-Euro 5.00 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 2.12 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.58 Pct
American -
Beringian -
Mediterranean 6.19 Pct
SW-Asian 15.00 Pct
San -
E-African 0.37 Pct
Pygmy -
W-African -
Population
S-Indian 5.77 Pct
Baloch 27.50 Pct
Caucasian 36.36 Pct
NE-Euro 7.08 Pct
SE-Asian 1.07 Pct
Siberian 0.52 Pct
NE-Asian 1.19 Pct
Papuan -
American 1.12 Pct
Beringian 0.38 Pct
Mediterranean 5.37 Pct
SW-Asian 13.05 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy 0.25 Pct
W-African 0.34 Pct
Population
S-Indian 3.47 Pct
Baloch 27.49 Pct
Caucasian 37.23 Pct
NE-Euro 5.82 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian -
NE-Asian 0.69 Pct
Papuan 0.71 Pct
American 1.66 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 5.73 Pct
SW-Asian 14.01 Pct
San 0.78 Pct
E-African 1.20 Pct
Pygmy -
W-African 1.19 Pc
Population
S-Indian 3.65 Pct
Baloch 27.18 Pct
Caucasian 36.96 Pct
NE-Euro 7.18 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 0.56 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American 1.39 Pct
Beringian 0.98 Pct
Mediterranean 5.73 Pct
SW-Asian 13.20 Pct
San -
E-African 1.57 Pct
Pygmy 1.38 Pct
W-African 0.20 Pc
Admix Results (sorted):(this one oddly gets lower baloch than many other west iranians, but also a lot higher SI....)
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.71
2 Baloch 24.72
3 S-Indian 11.51
4 SW-Asian 11.45
5 NE-Euro 6.92
6 Mediterranean 5.79
7 Siberian 1.22
8 NE-Asian 1.14
9 E-African 0.9
10 Beringian 0.72
11 SE-Asian 0.67
12 W-African 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 9.31
2 iranian (harappa) 9.34
3 kurd (harappa) 10.11
4 turkmen (yunusbayev) 12.44
5 turkish (harappa) 13.23
6 kurd (yunusbayev) 13.36
7 kurd (xing) 13.61
8 azeri (harappa) 13.68
9 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.4
10 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 15.85
11 armenian (harappa) 15.99
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 17.03
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 17.08
14 turk (behar) 17.32
15 romanian-b (behar) 19.19
16 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 19.44
17 stalskoe (xing) 19.6
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 19.71
19 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 19.74
20 pashtun (harappa) 19.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.1% georgia-jew (behar) + 40.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.03
2 62.9% georgia-jew (behar) + 37.1% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.07
3 70.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 29.6% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.21
4 53.4% lebanese-druze (haber) + 46.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.22
5 53% pathan (hgdp) + 47% druze (hgdp) @ 2.35
6 64.5% assyrian (harappa) + 35.5% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.38
7 59.4% georgia-jew (behar) + 40.6% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.46
8 63.2% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 36.8% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.55
9 71.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 28.3% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.57
10 51% druze (hgdp) + 49% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.62
11 59.7% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 40.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.63
12 65% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 35% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.66
13 72.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 27.3% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.72
14 61% assyrian (harappa) + 39% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.72
15 52.7% pashtun (harappa) + 47.3% georgia-jew (behar) @ 2.72
16 67.6% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 32.4% up-muslim (harappa) @ 2.73
17 64.9% armenian (harappa) + 35.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.78
18 82.8% kurd (harappa) + 17.2% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 2.8
19 52.1% lebanese-christian (haber) + 47.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.81
20 84.2% kurd (harappa) + 15.8% tharu (reich) @ 2.81
Lol theyre all Iranian+ a semitic population wtf
hussein khan
09-12-2019, 02:58 PM
Lol theyre all Iranian+ a semitic population wtf
If they are, then so are all other west iranians. They dont seem really different...
Lol theyre all Iranian+ a semitic population wtf
looks regular southwest Iranian/Persian to be honest
Did this for another thread, maybe it's of interest:
Republic Azerbaijan
ANE 16.83 Pct
ASE 5.28 Pct
WHG-UHG 12.10 Pct
East_Eurasian 4.37 Pct
West_African 0.49 Pct
East_African -
ENF 60.93 Pct
Azeri_Iran
ANE 19.01 Pct
ASE 3.33 Pct
WHG-UHG 8.29 Pct
East_Eurasian 4.79 Pct
West_African 0.79 Pct
East_African -
ENF 63.78 Pct
Azeri_iran #2 (father)
ANE 18.04 Pct
ASE 4.32 Pct
WHG-UHG 11.30 Pct
East_Eurasian 4.33 Pct
West_African 0.09 Pct
East_African 1.22 Pct
ENF 60.69 Pc
Azeri_Dagestan
ANE 21.47 Pct
ASE 5.39 Pct
WHG-UHG 14.26 Pct
East_Eurasian 1.75 Pct
West_African 0.51 Pct
East_African -
ENF 56.62 Pc
Persian_Fars
ANE 18.06 Pct
ASE 7.26 Pct
WHG-UHG 2.05 Pct
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.21 Pct
East_African 2.59 Pct
ENF 69.80 Pct
Yagnobi_Tajikistan
ANE 24.85 Pct
ASE 5.95 Pct
WHG-UHG 20.86 Pct
East_Eurasian 3.52 Pct
West_African 1.00 Pct
East_African 1.01 Pct
ENF 42.81 Pct
Iran_Bandari
ANE 22.42 Pct
ASE 8.92 Pct
WHG-UHG 0.72 Pct
East_Eurasian 0.58 Pct
West_African 1.02 Pct
East_African 4.57 Pct
ENF 61.77 Pct
Iran_Lor
ANE 15.20 Pct
ASE 4.40 Pct
WHG-UHG 6.98 Pct
East_Eurasian 2.60 Pct
West_African 0.15 Pct
East_African 2.17 Pct
ENF 68.50 Pct
Iran_Mazandaran
ANE 21.85 Pct
ASE 5.98 Pct
WHG-UHG 3.87 Pct
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.14 Pct
East_African -
ENF 68.16 Pct
Turkmen
ANE 22.40 Pct
ASE 6.95 Pct
WHG-UHG 7.50 Pct
East_Eurasian 7.33 Pct
West_African 1.05 Pct
East_African 0.47 Pct
ENF 54.30 Pct
Turkish
ANE 13.15 Pct
ASE 2.80 Pct
WHG-UHG 25.73 Pct
East_Eurasian 6.66 Pct
West_African 0.71 Pct
East_African 0.08 Pct
ENF 50.87 Pct
Iraq_Arab
ANE 11.22 Pct
ASE 2.42 Pct
WHG-UHG 3.91 Pct
East_Eurasian 0.47 Pct
West_African -
East_African 7.68 Pct
ENF 74.31 Pct
Iraq_yazidi
ANE 18.60 Pct
ASE 5.21 Pct
WHG-UHG 8.71 Pct
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.93 Pct
East_African -
ENF 66.56 Pct
Republic Azerbaijan
ANE 16.83 Pct
ASE 5.28 Pct
WHG-UHG 12.10 Pct
East_Eurasian 4.37 Pct
West_African 0.49 Pct
East_African -
ENF 60.93 Pct
Azeri_Iran
ANE 19.01 Pct
ASE 3.33 Pct
WHG-UHG 8.29 Pct
East_Eurasian 4.79 Pct
West_African 0.79 Pct
East_African -
ENF 63.78 Pct
Azeri_iran #2 (father)
ANE 18.04 Pct
ASE 4.32 Pct
WHG-UHG 11.30 Pct
East_Eurasian 4.33 Pct
West_African 0.09 Pct
East_African 1.22 Pct
ENF 60.69 Pc
Azeri_Dagestan
ANE 21.47 Pct
ASE 5.39 Pct
WHG-UHG 14.26 Pct
East_Eurasian 1.75 Pct
West_African 0.51 Pct
East_African -
ENF 56.62 Pc
Persian_Fars
ANE 18.06 Pct
ASE 7.26 Pct
WHG-UHG 2.05 Pct
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.21 Pct
East_African 2.59 Pct
ENF 69.80 Pct
Yagnobi_Tajikistan
ANE 24.85 Pct
ASE 5.95 Pct
WHG-UHG 20.86 Pct
East_Eurasian 3.52 Pct
West_African 1.00 Pct
East_African 1.01 Pct
ENF 42.81 Pct
Iran_Bandari
ANE 22.42 Pct
ASE 8.92 Pct
WHG-UHG 0.72 Pct
East_Eurasian 0.58 Pct
West_African 1.02 Pct
East_African 4.57 Pct
ENF 61.77 Pct
Iran_Lor
ANE 15.20 Pct
ASE 4.40 Pct
WHG-UHG 6.98 Pct
East_Eurasian 2.60 Pct
West_African 0.15 Pct
East_African 2.17 Pct
ENF 68.50 Pct
I ran Dagestani Azeri on G25, the result was 64.2% Azeri Iran and 35.8% Tabasaran (Southern Dagestan natives living around Derbent). The distance was 0.44 (very tight fit).
I ran Dagestani Azeri on G25, the result was 64.2% Azeri Iran and 35.8% Tabasaran (Southern Dagestan natives living around Derbent). The distance was 0.44 (very tight fit).
yes makes sense!
Mingle
09-12-2019, 06:39 PM
I ran Dagestani Azeri on G25, the result was 64.2% Azeri Iran and 35.8% Tabasaran (Southern Dagestan natives living around Derbent). The distance was 0.44 (very tight fit).0.44 is too tight and not a good fit. It's a sign of overfitting.
Babak
09-12-2019, 07:21 PM
If they are, then so are all other west iranians. They dont seem really different...
Lebanese Muslim+kalash...really?
Babak
09-12-2019, 07:24 PM
looks regular southwest Iranian/Persian to be honest
Iraq mandean+turkmen? You call that normal? Iranian+Iranian+brahui makes more sense
hussein khan
09-13-2019, 02:39 PM
Lebanese Muslim+kalash...really?
Dude, thats pretty normal for iranians. Iranians as whole are not only signifcantly more CHG-shifted than the lebanese references, but also less caucasian and slightly more SI-Shifted. They almost be inbetween pashtuns and lebanese christians(mazandaranis at least...).
hussein khan
09-13-2019, 02:41 PM
Iraq mandean+turkmen? You call that normal? Iranian+Iranian+brahui makes more sense
Also, the turkmen reference is HEAVILY iranian-admixed. It also depends on the fit number. But none of these modellings are too crazy. pretty normal. DOnt know why youre like that.
hussein khan
09-13-2019, 02:59 PM
Might be another mazandarani:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.29
2 Baloch 33.05
3 SW-Asian 10.81
4 NE-Euro 8.24
5 S-Indian 5.09
6 NE-Asian 1.56
7 Mediterranean 0.67
8 American 0.18
9 E-African 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 7.79
2 iranian (behar) 8.92
3 kurd (xing) 9.21
4 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.91
5 kurd (harappa) 9.94
6 azeri (harappa) 14.78
7 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.73
8 turkish (harappa) 16.05
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 16.44
10 lezgin (behar) 16.66
11 kumyk (yunusbayev) 17.22
12 stalskoe (xing) 17.75
13 armenian (harappa) 18.3
14 urkarah (xing) 18.82
15 iraqi-arab (harappa) 19.18
16 turk (behar) 19.57
17 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 19.81
18 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 20.05
19 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 20.05
20 assyrian (harappa) 20.26
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.9% kurd (xing) + 22.1% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.6
2 81.1% kurd (xing) + 18.9% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.86
3 79.1% kurd (xing) + 20.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.94
4 81.2% kurd (xing) + 18.8% burusho (hgdp) @ 5.16
5 57.4% georgian (harappa) + 42.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 5.21
6 80.7% kurd (xing) + 19.3% sindhi (harappa) @ 5.24
7 81.4% kurd (xing) + 18.6% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 5.39
8 56.5% georgian (harappa) + 43.5% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.41
9 59.6% georgian (harappa) + 40.4% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.43
10 75.8% kurd (xing) + 24.2% pashtun (harappa) @ 5.55
11 84% kurd (xing) + 16% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 5.55
12 82.8% kurd (xing) + 17.2% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 5.56
13 83.3% kurd (xing) + 16.7% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 5.59
14 83.8% kurd (xing) + 16.2% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.6
15 84.3% kurd (xing) + 15.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 5.6
16 84.4% kurd (xing) + 15.6% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 5.67
17 82.1% kurd (xing) + 17.9% kashmiri (harappa) @ 5.68
18 83.3% kurd (xing) + 16.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 5.69
19 80.9% kurd (yunusbayev) + 19.1% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.7
20 84.9% kurd (xing) + 15.1% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 5.74
hussein khan
09-13-2019, 03:03 PM
More assumingly mazandaranis:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.2
2 Baloch 33.25
3 SW-Asian 10.37
4 S-Indian 5.66
5 NE-Euro 2.95
6 Mediterranean 2.82
7 SE-Asian 1.08
8 American 0.8
9 Beringian 0.74
10 Siberian 0.72
11 W-African 0.38
12 Papuan 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 6.99
2 iranian (behar) 7.88
3 kurd (xing) 8.29
4 kurd (harappa) 8.8
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.18
6 azeri (harappa) 14.7
7 turkish (harappa) 15.47
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 15.51
9 armenian (harappa) 16.94
10 turkmen (yunusbayev) 17.29
11 iraqi-arab (harappa) 18.25
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 18.43
13 assyrian (harappa) 18.66
14 kumyk (yunusbayev) 19.45
15 turk (behar) 19.54
16 iranian-jew (behar) 19.67
17 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 19.85
18 lezgin (behar) 19.88
19 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 20.2
20 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 20.32
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.7% georgian (harappa) + 43.3% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.5
2 60.4% armenian (yunusbayev) + 39.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.62
3 58.6% armenian (behar) + 41.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.63
4 61.7% armenian (behar) + 38.3% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.63
5 59.6% armenian (behar) + 40.4% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.65
6 57.7% georgian (harappa) + 42.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.72
7 59.9% georgian (harappa) + 40.1% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.87
8 80.4% kurd (xing) + 19.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.33
9 84.3% kurd (xing) + 15.7% sindhi (hgdp) @ 4.43
10 81.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 18.8% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.49
11 79.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 20.9% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.5
12 84.6% kurd (xing) + 15.4% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 4.58
13 83.4% kurd (xing) + 16.6% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.67
14 82.2% kurd (xing) + 17.8% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.7
15 82.8% kurd (xing) + 17.2% sindhi (harappa) @ 4.82
16 85.5% kurd (xing) + 14.5% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 4.84
17 81.9% kurd (xing) + 18.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.84
18 84.7% kurd (xing) + 15.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 4.87
19 86% kurd (xing) + 14% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 4.92
20 89.7% kurd (xing) + 10.3% gujarati-a (hapmap) @ 4.94
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 45.75
2 Baloch 31.95
3 SW-Asian 9.84
4 NE-Euro 4.56
5 S-Indian 3.95
6 American 1.4
7 Pygmy 0.96
8 Siberian 0.85
9 Mediterranean 0.69
10 E-African 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (xing) 7.49
2 kurd (yunusbayev) 7.9
3 iranian (harappa) 8.17
4 kurd (harappa) 9.69
5 iranian (behar) 10.01
6 azeri (harappa) 13.24
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 14.72
8 turkish (harappa) 15.11
9 armenian (harappa) 16.35
10 kumyk (yunusbayev) 16.7
11 assyrian (harappa) 16.96
12 lezgin (behar) 17.18
13 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 17.7
14 turk (behar) 18.14
15 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 18.28
16 armenian (yunusbayev) 18.37
17 iranian-jew (behar) 18.55
18 armenian (behar) 18.76
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 18.9
20 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 19.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.7% georgian (harappa) + 35.3% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.18
2 67.2% georgian (harappa) + 32.8% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.36
3 65.6% georgian (harappa) + 34.4% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.54
4 55.3% georgian (behar) + 44.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.13
5 57.5% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 42.5% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.36
6 58.2% georgian (behar) + 41.8% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.77
7 56.3% georgian (behar) + 43.7% balochi (hgdp) @ 5.89
8 60.4% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 39.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 6.02
9 58.5% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 41.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 6.16
10 68.6% armenian (behar) + 31.4% brahui (hgdp) @ 6.37
11 66% armenian (behar) + 34% makrani (hgdp) @ 6.38
12 89.3% kurd (xing) + 10.7% kalash (hgdp) @ 6.42
13 66.9% armenian (behar) + 33.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 6.49
14 91.8% kurd (xing) + 8.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 6.68
15 91.1% kurd (xing) + 8.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 6.72
16 90.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 6.74
17 92.6% kurd (xing) + 7.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 6.75
18 89.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 10.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 6.75
19 92% kurd (xing) + 8% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 6.76
20 91.8% kurd (xing) + 8.2% sindhi (harappa) @ 6.76
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.66
2 Baloch 31.78
3 SW-Asian 10.79
4 NE-Euro 5.23
5 S-Indian 5.12
6 Mediterranean 0.93
7 Siberian 0.71
8 SE-Asian 0.45
9 Pygmy 0.15
10 E-African 0.14
11 Beringian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (xing) 7.19
2 iranian (harappa) 7.29
3 kurd (yunusbayev) 7.59
4 iranian (behar) 8.84
5 kurd (harappa) 8.92
6 azeri (harappa) 13.03
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 14.26
8 turkish (harappa) 14.78
9 armenian (harappa) 16.05
10 kumyk (yunusbayev) 16.89
11 assyrian (harappa) 17
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 17.4
13 lezgin (behar) 17.42
14 turk (behar) 18.04
15 iranian-jew (behar) 18.34
16 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 18.4
17 turkmen (yunusbayev) 18.56
18 iraqi-arab (harappa) 18.57
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 18.69
20 armenian (yunusbayev) 18.77
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63% georgian (harappa) + 37% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.57
2 63.9% georgian (harappa) + 36.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.64
3 65.7% georgian (harappa) + 34.3% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.75
4 87% kurd (xing) + 13% kalash (hgdp) @ 5.45
5 65.4% armenian (behar) + 34.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 5.67
6 67.3% armenian (behar) + 32.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.68
7 64.6% armenian (behar) + 35.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.72
8 89.6% kurd (xing) + 10.4% bhatia (harappa) @ 5.76
9 88.4% kurd (xing) + 11.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 5.76
10 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 5.77
11 87.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 12.4% balochi (hgdp) @ 5.78
12 89.1% kurd (xing) + 10.9% sindhi (harappa) @ 5.78
13 89.4% kurd (xing) + 10.6% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 5.79
14 53.8% georgian (behar) + 46.2% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.8
15 90.8% kurd (xing) + 9.2% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 5.81
16 90.7% kurd (xing) + 9.3% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.84
17 91% kurd (xing) + 9% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 5.85
18 89.7% kurd (xing) + 10.3% kashmiri (harappa) @ 5.86
19 91.1% kurd (xing) + 8.9% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 5.87
20 88.7% kurd (yunusbayev) + 11.3% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.87
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.76
2 Baloch 31.91
3 SW-Asian 11.42
4 NE-Euro 4.68
5 Mediterranean 3.65
6 S-Indian 3.01
7 SE-Asian 1.6
8 Papuan 0.82
9 San 0.68
10 American 0.3
11 Beringian 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 5.46
2 kurd (xing) 5.64
3 iranian (behar) 6.56
4 kurd (yunusbayev) 6.67
5 kurd (harappa) 6.84
6 azeri (harappa) 13.13
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 13.35
8 turkish (harappa) 13.54
9 armenian (harappa) 14.98
10 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 16.69
11 assyrian (harappa) 16.76
12 iraqi-arab (harappa) 16.81
13 turkmen (yunusbayev) 17.28
14 turk (behar) 17.61
15 kumyk (yunusbayev) 17.79
16 iranian-jew (behar) 17.86
17 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 17.87
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 18.21
19 lezgin (behar) 18.48
20 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 18.55
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 14.4% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.68
2 84.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 15.9% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.79
3 87.6% kurd (xing) + 12.4% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.02
4 86.8% kurd (xing) + 13.2% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.02
5 88.5% kurd (xing) + 11.5% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.1
6 88.8% kurd (xing) + 11.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.21
7 87.5% kurd (xing) + 12.5% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.24
8 64.8% armenian (behar) + 35.2% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.26
9 89.7% kurd (xing) + 10.3% sindhi (hgdp) @ 3.27
10 87.8% kurd (xing) + 12.2% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.35
11 62% armenian (behar) + 38% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.36
12 90% kurd (xing) + 10% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.38
13 88.7% kurd (xing) + 11.3% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.48
14 89.3% kurd (xing) + 10.7% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.58
15 90.7% kurd (xing) + 9.3% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 3.61
16 90.9% kurd (xing) + 9.1% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 3.64
17 90.7% kurd (xing) + 9.3% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 3.65
18 90.2% kurd (xing) + 9.8% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 3.65
19 89.3% kurd (xing) + 10.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.66
20 90.7% kurd (xing) + 9.3% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.68
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 46.14
2 Baloch 31.52
3 SW-Asian 8.43
4 S-Indian 7.67
5 Mediterranean 3.1
6 NE-Euro 1.11
7 Papuan 0.98
8 Siberian 0.56
9 Pygmy 0.3
10 Beringian 0.19
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 9.13
2 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.56
3 kurd (xing) 9.76
4 kurd (harappa) 10.47
5 iranian (behar) 10.97
6 azeri (harappa) 13.92
7 turkish (harappa) 15.34
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 15.41
9 armenian (harappa) 15.94
10 assyrian (harappa) 17.07
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 18.06
12 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 18.23
13 armenian (yunusbayev) 18.24
14 turk (behar) 18.68
15 armenian (behar) 18.85
16 iranian-jew (behar) 18.87
17 kumyk (yunusbayev) 19.01
18 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 19.28
19 iraqi-arab (harappa) 19.67
20 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 19.69
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% georgian (harappa) + 35.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.27
2 66.9% georgian (harappa) + 33.1% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.27
3 55.3% georgian (behar) + 44.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.76
4 56% georgian (behar) + 44% balochi (hgdp) @ 5.84
5 58.1% georgian (behar) + 41.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 6.18
6 66.6% armenian (behar) + 33.4% balochi (hgdp) @ 6.35
7 57.3% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 42.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 6.47
8 68.5% armenian (behar) + 31.5% brahui (hgdp) @ 6.54
9 68.2% georgian (harappa) + 31.8% sindhi (hgdp) @ 6.57
10 58% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 42% balochi (hgdp) @ 6.64
11 66% armenian (behar) + 34% makrani (hgdp) @ 6.67
12 60.1% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 39.9% brahui (hgdp) @ 6.91
13 65.1% armenian (yunusbayev) + 34.9% kalash (hgdp) @ 7.02
14 68.6% georgian (harappa) + 31.4% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 7.28
15 70.5% armenian (yunusbayev) + 29.5% sindhi (hgdp) @ 7.33
16 69.2% armenian (yunusbayev) + 30.8% bhatia (harappa) @ 7.5
17 91% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9% velama (reich) @ 7.64
18 91.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.7% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 7.66
19 91.1% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.9% velama (metspalu) @ 7.67
20 91.2% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.8% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 7.7
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 48.13
2 Baloch 34.73
3 SW-Asian 10.28
4 S-Indian 3.71
5 Mediterranean 1.02
6 San 0.9
7 NE-Euro 0.71
8 Papuan 0.3
9 American 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (xing) 9.95
2 kurd (yunusbayev) 10.53
3 iranian (harappa) 11.52
4 kurd (harappa) 12.56
5 iranian (behar) 12.69
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 16.55
7 azeri (harappa) 16.61
8 assyrian (harappa) 17.61
9 turkish (harappa) 18.06
10 armenian (harappa) 18.15
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 18.38
12 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 19.04
13 armenian (yunusbayev) 19.09
14 iranian-jew (behar) 19.17
15 georgian (harappa) 19.79
16 armenian (behar) 19.91
17 kumyk (yunusbayev) 20.62
18 georgia-jew (behar) 20.86
19 lezgin (behar) 20.9
20 turk (behar) 21.16
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.6% georgian (harappa) + 35.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 5.68
2 67.2% georgian (harappa) + 32.8% brahui (hgdp) @ 5.73
3 55.5% georgian (behar) + 44.5% makrani (hgdp) @ 6.22
4 65.8% georgian (harappa) + 34.2% balochi (hgdp) @ 6.3
5 58.4% georgian (behar) + 41.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 6.66
6 57.5% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 42.5% makrani (hgdp) @ 7.05
7 56.7% georgian (behar) + 43.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 7.29
8 60.3% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 39.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 7.51
9 58.7% abhkasian (yunusbayev) + 41.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 8.05
10 66.7% armenian (yunusbayev) + 33.3% makrani (hgdp) @ 8.69
11 68.2% armenian (behar) + 31.8% brahui (hgdp) @ 8.78
12 65.6% armenian (behar) + 34.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 8.79
13 66.7% armenian (behar) + 33.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 9.15
14 92.7% kurd (xing) + 7.3% brahui (hgdp) @ 9.48
15 92.3% kurd (xing) + 7.7% balochi (hgdp) @ 9.49
16 92% kurd (xing) + 8% makrani (hgdp) @ 9.5
17 92.7% kurd (xing) + 7.3% kalash (hgdp) @ 9.59
18 90.3% kurd (xing) + 9.7% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 9.59
19 91.1% kurd (xing) + 8.9% georgian (behar) @ 9.59
20 94.8% kurd (xing) + 5.2% sindhi (hgdp) @ 9.67
hussein khan
09-13-2019, 03:07 PM
MDLP world of a mazandarani:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucaus_Parsia 48.42
2 Middle_East 16.98
3 South_and_West_European 16.88
4 Indian 12.24
5 North_and_East_European 3.8
6 Mesoamerican 1.19
7 North_Asian 0.34
8 Paleo_African 0.13
9 Melanesian 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri 9.72
2 Kurd 9.86
3 Iranian 12.86
4 Parsi 13.06
5 Kumyk 14.62
6 Georgian 14.74
7 Ossetian 15.88
8 NorthOssetian 15.96
9 Georgian_Laz 16.06
10 Chechen 16.17
11 Adygei 16.28
12 Turk 16.43
13 Armenian 16.47
14 Georgian_Imereti 16.49
15 Kabardinian 16.61
16 Lezgin 17.15
17 Balkarian 17.35
18 Abhkasian 17.71
19 Jew-Uzbekistan 17.84
20 Cirkassian 18.18
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.3% Georgian_Laz + 42.7% Balochi @ 2.76
2 53.2% Parsi + 46.8% Georgian @ 3
3 56.7% Armenian + 43.3% Balochi @ 3.18
4 55.4% Parsi + 44.6% Georgian_Laz @ 3.29
5 60.1% Armenian + 39.9% Pathan @ 3.34
6 63.1% Armenian + 36.9% Kalash @ 3.46
7 54.6% Armenian + 45.4% Brahui @ 3.7
8 58% Parsi + 42% Abhkasian @ 3.76
9 56.2% Parsi + 43.8% Georgian_Imereti @ 3.78
10 53.4% Armenian + 46.6% Pashtun @ 3.78
11 72.7% Kurd + 27.3% Pathan @ 3.83
12 55.3% Georgian_Laz + 44.7% Brahui @ 3.88
13 55.3% Parsi + 44.7% Ossetian @ 4.09
14 55.4% Parsi + 44.6% NorthOssetian @ 4.15
15 52.7% Kalash + 47.3% Cypriot @ 4.18
16 76.9% Kurd + 23.1% Sindhi @ 4.2
17 60.9% Georgian_Laz + 39.1% Pathan @ 4.28
18 65.7% Georgian_Laz + 34.3% Sindhi @ 4.32
19 67.3% Kurd + 32.7% Pashtun @ 4.33
20 76.2% Kurd + 23.8% Burusho @ 4.34
Interesting....they be equally as close to lebanese and armenians almost(slightly closer to pashtuns than to lebanese) as to afg pashtuns...they kept lot of that BMAC in them...
hussein khan
09-13-2019, 03:09 PM
Some bandaris:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 38.38
2 Caucasian 27.79
3 S-Indian 12.05
4 SW-Asian 10.13
5 NE-Euro 4.21
6 W-African 1.79
7 Mediterranean 1.29
8 Papuan 1.23
9 American 1.03
10 San 0.97
11 SE-Asian 0.69
12 Pygmy 0.44
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 13.73
2 iranian (behar) 16.94
3 kalash (hgdp) 17.38
4 iranian (harappa) 17.87
5 turkmen (yunusbayev) 18.07
6 pathan (hgdp) 18.32
7 makrani (hgdp) 18.61
8 tajik (yunusbayev) 18.71
9 balochi (hgdp) 19.24
10 kurd (harappa) 19.51
11 sindhi (harappa) 20.05
12 kurd (xing) 20.88
13 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 21.78
14 bhatia (harappa) 21.81
15 kurd (yunusbayev) 21.93
16 burusho (hgdp) 22.19
17 kashmiri (harappa) 22.46
18 brahui (hgdp) 22.77
19 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 23.59
20 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 23.63
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% kurd (xing) + 46% sindhi (hgdp) @ 4.11
2 69.9% balochi (hgdp) + 30.1% druze (hgdp) @ 4.71
3 59.5% iranian (behar) + 40.5% sindhi (hgdp) @ 4.74
4 57.6% balochi (hgdp) + 42.4% azeri (harappa) @ 4.89
5 56.7% iranian (behar) + 43.3% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.93
6 53.5% iranian (behar) + 46.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 5.06
7 50.4% balochi (hgdp) + 49.6% kurd (harappa) @ 5.12
8 65.1% balochi (hgdp) + 34.9% armenian (behar) @ 5.18
9 51.2% kurd (xing) + 48.8% bhatia (harappa) @ 5.23
10 55.1% kurd (xing) + 44.9% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.28
11 63.8% balochi (hgdp) + 36.2% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 5.37
12 57.6% balochi (hgdp) + 42.4% turkish (harappa) @ 5.44
13 50.7% iranian (behar) + 49.3% kalash (hgdp) @ 5.48
14 64.2% balochi (hgdp) + 35.8% georgia-jew (behar) @ 5.5
15 57.9% bhatia (harappa) + 42.1% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 5.54
16 58.6% balochi (hgdp) + 41.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 5.6
17 55.9% kurd (harappa) + 44.1% sindhi (hgdp) @ 5.62
18 58.6% makrani (hgdp) + 41.4% azeri (harappa) @ 5.62
19 60.7% iranian (behar) + 39.3% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.64
20 59.3% bhatia (harappa) + 40.7% iranian-jew (behar) @ 5.69
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 35.32
2 Caucasian 30.15
3 S-Indian 11.91
4 SW-Asian 11.51
5 NE-Euro 3.91
6 E-African 3.13
7 American 1.21
8 W-African 1.18
9 Beringian 0.77
10 Siberian 0.56
11 Pygmy 0.25
12 Papuan 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 14.22
2 pashtun (harappa) 15.34
3 iranian (harappa) 15.39
4 turkmen (yunusbayev) 16.83
5 kurd (harappa) 16.93
6 kurd (xing) 18.36
7 kurd (yunusbayev) 19.44
8 tajik (yunusbayev) 19.59
9 kalash (hgdp) 20.17
10 pathan (hgdp) 20.97
11 iraqi-arab (harappa) 21.98
12 makrani (hgdp) 22.15
13 sindhi (harappa) 22.47
14 balochi (hgdp) 22.94
15 azeri (harappa) 23.02
16 turkish (harappa) 23.14
17 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 23.81
18 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 23.84
19 kashmiri (harappa) 24.38
20 burusho (hgdp) 24.69
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.8% iranian (behar) + 33.2% sindhi (hgdp) @ 4.91
2 60.3% kurd (xing) + 39.7% sindhi (hgdp) @ 4.96
3 64.7% iranian (behar) + 35.3% bhatia (harappa) @ 5.23
4 62.4% iranian (behar) + 37.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 5.35
5 67.7% iranian (behar) + 32.3% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.4
6 51.7% bhatia (harappa) + 48.3% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 5.43
7 57.1% kalash (hgdp) + 42.9% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 5.43
8 59.7% iranian (behar) + 40.3% kalash (hgdp) @ 5.5
9 55.4% kurd (xing) + 44.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 5.56
10 61.1% kurd (xing) + 38.9% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 5.57
11 53.3% bhatia (harappa) + 46.7% iranian-jew (behar) @ 5.59
12 60.8% iranian (behar) + 39.2% pathan (hgdp) @ 5.71
13 58.7% kalash (hgdp) + 41.3% iranian-jew (behar) @ 5.75
14 64.3% balochi (hgdp) + 35.7% druze (hgdp) @ 5.89
15 69.3% iranian (behar) + 30.7% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 6.01
16 58.1% kurd (xing) + 41.9% bhatia (harappa) @ 6.02
17 62.7% kurd (harappa) + 37.3% sindhi (hgdp) @ 6.04
18 56.2% pathan (hgdp) + 43.8% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 6.04
19 59.9% kalash (hgdp) + 40.1% iraq-jew (behar) @ 6.05
20 64.2% iranian (behar) + 35.8% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 6.06
Babak
09-23-2019, 06:49 PM
I've talked to Coldmountains on anthrogenica and asked him to give a response for Iranians and steppe admixture:
Hi, sorry for the late reply. If we define steppe as Sintashta/Steppe MLBA-like ancestry than around 20% i would say and Iranians from Khorasan, Sistan and Yazd would come closest to that.
For example i got this on Vahaduo for Zoroastrians which are from Yazd if i am not wrong and the most steppe shifted Iranians which are in the global25 spreadsheet currently. Kashkarchi are Steppe_MLBA-like people in Uzbekistan. They are almost identical to Sintashta only a bit mixed with Central Asians. I have not found the global25 coordinates of Khorasani people but i guess they are inbetween these Zoroastrians and Afghan Pashtuns. More South Asian/Iran_Neo and a bit more steppe shifted. Pashtuns are around 25-30% Sintashta-like in most estimates.
Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
Distance: 1.5925% / 0.01592535
Aggregated
54.0 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
17.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.6 UZB_Kashkarchi_BA
8.4 Levant_Natufian
2.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
1.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
1.0 Mongola
But if we assume that steppe Iranics mixed heavily with BMAC before they entered Iran than the genetic change was much bigger. I replaced Kashkarchi with Turkmenistan_IA which was Pamiri-like and 50% Steppe_MLBA and 50% BMAC-like. So the most Steppe mixed Iranians in Khorasan are probably around 35-40% Turkmenistan_IA-like i guess.
Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
Distance: 1.3016% / 0.01301572
Aggregated
39.2 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
27.0 TKM_IA
17.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
8.6 Levant_Natufian
5.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
1.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
0.4 Mongola
hussein khan
09-24-2019, 04:19 PM
I've talked to Coldmountains on anthrogenica and asked him to give a response for Iranians and steppe admixture:
Hi, sorry for the late reply. If we define steppe as Sintashta/Steppe MLBA-like ancestry than around 20% i would say and Iranians from Khorasan, Sistan and Yazd would come closest to that.
For example i got this on Vahaduo for Zoroastrians which are from Yazd if i am not wrong and the most steppe shifted Iranians which are in the global25 spreadsheet currently. Kashkarchi are Steppe_MLBA-like people in Uzbekistan. They are almost identical to Sintashta only a bit mixed with Central Asians. I have not found the global25 coordinates of Khorasani people but i guess they are inbetween these Zoroastrians and Afghan Pashtuns. More South Asian/Iran_Neo and a bit more steppe shifted. Pashtuns are around 25-30% Sintashta-like in most estimates.
Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
Distance: 1.5925% / 0.01592535
Aggregated
54.0 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
17.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.6 UZB_Kashkarchi_BA
8.4 Levant_Natufian
2.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
1.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
1.0 Mongola
But if we assume that steppe Iranics mixed heavily with BMAC before they entered Iran than the genetic change was much bigger. I replaced Kashkarchi with Turkmenistan_IA which was Pamiri-like and 50% Steppe_MLBA and 50% BMAC-like. So the most Steppe mixed Iranians in Khorasan are probably around 35-40% Turkmenistan_IA-like i guess.
Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
Distance: 1.3016% / 0.01301572
Aggregated
39.2 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
27.0 TKM_IA
17.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
8.6 Levant_Natufian
5.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
1.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
0.4 Mongola
Sup
hussein khan
09-24-2019, 04:22 PM
I've talked to Coldmountains on anthrogenica and asked him to give a response for Iranians and steppe admixture:
Hi, sorry for the late reply. If we define steppe as Sintashta/Steppe MLBA-like ancestry than around 20% i would say and Iranians from Khorasan, Sistan and Yazd would come closest to that.
For example i got this on Vahaduo for Zoroastrians which are from Yazd if i am not wrong and the most steppe shifted Iranians which are in the global25 spreadsheet currently. Kashkarchi are Steppe_MLBA-like people in Uzbekistan. They are almost identical to Sintashta only a bit mixed with Central Asians. I have not found the global25 coordinates of Khorasani people but i guess they are inbetween these Zoroastrians and Afghan Pashtuns. More South Asian/Iran_Neo and a bit more steppe shifted. Pashtuns are around 25-30% Sintashta-like in most estimates.
Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
Distance: 1.5925% / 0.01592535
Aggregated
54.0 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
17.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.6 UZB_Kashkarchi_BA
8.4 Levant_Natufian
2.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
1.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
1.0 Mongola
But if we assume that steppe Iranics mixed heavily with BMAC before they entered Iran than the genetic change was much bigger. I replaced Kashkarchi with Turkmenistan_IA which was Pamiri-like and 50% Steppe_MLBA and 50% BMAC-like. So the most Steppe mixed Iranians in Khorasan are probably around 35-40% Turkmenistan_IA-like i guess.
Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
Distance: 1.3016% / 0.01301572
Aggregated
39.2 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
27.0 TKM_IA
17.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
8.6 Levant_Natufian
5.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
1.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
0.4 Mongola
Can you quickly check your pm from me?
Bakha
09-26-2019, 09:57 PM
Warning: they may also be not fully Iranian, I couldn't verify their origins.
A103188
1 balochi_hgdp + georgian_harappa + iranian_harappa + syrian_behar @ 2.299037
M346537
1 armenian_behar + lezgin_behar + samaritian_behar + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.715126
A969963
1 armenian_yunusbayev + bhatia_harappa + turk-kayseri_hodoglugil + yemenese_behar @ 2.500079
M508781
1 bhatia_harappa + iranian_behar + north-ossetian_harappa + palestinian_harappa @ 1.860862
M470761
1 bhatia_harappa + kurd_xing + kurd_xing + palestinian_hgdp @ 1.981406
T524191
1 balochi_hgdp + samaritian_behar + urkarah_xing + uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 2.167687
A114871
1 balochi_hgdp + georgian_behar + kurd_yunusbayev + uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 1.691357
no shared dna
no iran for me
Slavic Italian
09-27-2019, 12:57 AM
no shared dna
no iran for me
I match almost every kit posted in this thread for few exceptions. I significantly match the Mountain Iranian at a significant portion on default but I no longer share results on here.
Babak
10-01-2019, 10:01 PM
"distance%=1.9124"
Iranian_Mazandarani
IRN_Seh_Gabi_C,78.2
Steppe,18
AASI,2.8
MNG_Hovsgol_BA,1
.
"distance%=1.3568"
Iranian_Fars
IRN_Seh_Gabi_C,52.6
IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C,21.2
Steppe,20
MNG_Hovsgol_BA,3.2
AASI,3
.
"distance%=1.6115"
Iranian_Zoroastrian
IRN_Seh_Gabi_C,57.8
Steppe,24
IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C,15
AASI,2.4
MNG_Hovsgol_BA,0.8
.
"distance%=2.9022"
Pashtun
Iran_Neolithic,40
Steppe,38
AASI,19.4
MNG_Hovsgol_BA,2.6
.
Babak
10-01-2019, 10:05 PM
Herati results:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585326171496120344/628043239139704839/Herati.PNG
Bakha
10-01-2019, 10:06 PM
I match almost every kit posted in this thread for few exceptions. I significantly match the Mountain Iranian at a significant portion on default but I no longer share results on here.
Interesting. You re mostly of italian and eastern/central euro origins?
Bakha
10-01-2019, 10:07 PM
I match almost every kit posted in this thread for few exceptions. I significantly match the Mountain Iranian at a significant portion on default but I no longer share results on here.
btw which calc is in your signature?
edit: i got it, its DnaTribes, right?
Babak
10-01-2019, 10:38 PM
Iranian
https://i.redd.it/cwwi6bpsgww01.jpg
Slavic Italian
10-01-2019, 10:40 PM
Interesting. You re mostly of italian and eastern/central euro origins?
I'm fairly mixed.
Bakha
10-01-2019, 11:16 PM
Iranian
https://i.redd.it/cwwi6bpsgww01.jpg
not a mutt
btw here is a pic of that tehIrani who got 10% arab, egyptian, levantine, dude looks semitic to me
https://i.ibb.co/y0YH1wc/15-A2-EF6-B-6-DEC-4-CA9-932-E-C15-C50-F822-C9.jpg (https://ibb.co/SNdF8h4)
Babak
10-01-2019, 11:18 PM
not a mutt
btw here is a pic of that tehIrani who got 10% arab, egyptian, levantine, dude looks semitic to me
https://i.ibb.co/y0YH1wc/15-A2-EF6-B-6-DEC-4-CA9-932-E-C15-C50-F822-C9.jpg (https://ibb.co/SNdF8h4)
10% is native SW asian and is not direct Arab ancestry. This guy looks azerbaijani. Now stop fucking trolling Iranians.
Bakha
10-01-2019, 11:29 PM
This guy looks levantine arab
fixed
Babak
10-01-2019, 11:32 PM
fixed
Just fuck off. An uzbek mongol west asian shifted mutt is no position to troll Iranians. You look more arab than him.
Bakha
10-01-2019, 11:37 PM
Just fuck off. An uzbek mongol west asian shifted mutt is no position to troll Iranians. You look more arab than him.
Lol i dont care
Babak
10-01-2019, 11:38 PM
Im a troll and an attention whore
Did you even ask this guy to post his pic here my insecure near-eastern looking uzbek friend?
Bakha
10-01-2019, 11:39 PM
I'm fairly mixed.
Btw here is mine DnaTribes, no wonder i dont match iranians:
https://i.ibb.co/8DttLZp/8-B502780-A56-E-4953-902-E-1-C949-A50-A89-C.jpg (https://ibb.co/SXGG4C8)
https://i.ibb.co/GkXQnNK/01630-D12-8341-413-F-8-E48-BA54-EF0-B1083.jpg (https://ibb.co/wCThBj9)
https://i.ibb.co/ZVMHJL8/D9-A84-D5-C-28-F0-4466-A861-8-F9-C61956-A41.jpg (https://ibb.co/yXQhRfy)
image upload (https://ru.imgbb.com/)
Bakha, leave this forum already, you've become an unbearable clown. Thank your mother for giving you identity issues by mixing with a black-assed criminal (you said it yourself). Turkmen-Uzbeki-Tajiki-Tatar-Siberian-Jew-Mordovian. That Iranian is a full Persian yet he looks just as dark as you!
Bakha
10-02-2019, 12:34 AM
Ok, now seriously
Bakha, leave this forum already, you've become an unbearable clown.
Fuck off, its up to Loki to decide; looks like its Babak who started to butthurt with no reason at all here; look at how he butthurts and calls me arab looking and i dont fuckin care, poor guy, so sensitive about his ethnicity
Thank your mother for giving you identity issues by mixing with a black-assed criminal (you said it yourself). Turkmen-Uzbeki-Tajiki-Tatar-Siberian-Jew-Mordovian.
Black-assed is your description, i never used it, looks like you got some serious issues towards kavkaz people in Russia, if you re seriously use it to offend me
That Iranian is a full Persian yet he looks just as dark as you!
You say it like being dark/med is something to be ashamed off? Really? Lmao i dont think so. Good for him and good for me we both look dark. Now fuck off again
Babak
10-02-2019, 02:04 AM
Ok, now seriously
Fuck off, its up to Loki to decide; looks like its Babak who started to butthurt with no reason at all here; look at how he butthurts and calls me arab looking and i dont fuckin care, poor guy, so sensitive about his ethnicity
Black-assed is your description, i never used it, looks like you got some serious issues towards kavkaz people in Russia, if you re seriously use it to offend me
You say it like being dark/med is something to be ashamed off? Really? Lmao i dont think so. Good for him and good for me we both look dark. Now fuck off again
You started derailing this thread by posting something completely unrelated and trolling by posting a pic of another user (which can get you banned) by saying he looks semitic looking. If you didnt give a fuck, you wouldnt have downvoted me in that thread.
Bakha
10-02-2019, 04:37 AM
You started derailing this thread by posting something completely unrelated and trolling by posting a pic of another user (which can get you banned) by saying he looks semitic looking. If you didnt give a fuck, you wouldnt have downvoted me in that thread.
Another user? Dude he is not on the apricity, the photo is public and from social media
Bakha
10-02-2019, 04:47 AM
You started derailing this thread by posting 23andme of an iranian here:
Iranian
https://i.redd.it/cwwi6bpsgww01.jpg
I just showed you a pic of an Iranian who scores different with 10% Arab, egyptian and levantine. My point was that he really looks far more semitic shifted than usual iranians that i ve seen lol, which is indicated in his results; i really didnt expected you to start butthurt
Negah
10-02-2019, 12:21 PM
You started derailing this thread by posting 23andme of an iranian here:
I just showed you a pic of an Iranian who scores different with 10% Arab, egyptian and levantine. My point was that he really looks far more semitic shifted than usual iranians that i ve seen lol, which is indicated in his results; i really didnt expected you to start butthurt
You are a troll and you are not even shy about it. Eventually, you will get banned. You are constantly trying to provoke people. I even think that the DNA results and pictures that you claim are yours are actually not yours. Next time when you decide to troll please don't be so obvious.
hussein khan
10-02-2019, 04:04 PM
You are a troll and you are not even shy about it. Eventually, you will get banned. You are constantly trying to provoke people. I even think that the DNA results and pictures that you claim are yours are actually not yours. Next time when you decide to troll please don't be so obvious.
They probably are.
But if you doubt him, let him take another selfie of himself holding a paper with something written on you said he should write down(like "negah is not here"....my method is just one example though) something specific only you can think about. Or let him do a specific pose of just make a gif of himself. Because you cant have pics of the same person that isnt yours, doing something else only yyou know to do and not the original owner(since he doesnt know either guys, if the pic of bakha isnt his). But the gif thing works too.
Oghuz
10-02-2019, 04:36 PM
Whats wrong with that pic ? that guy looks like an atypical azeri and is not even that swarthy.
Negah
10-02-2019, 07:10 PM
They probably are.
But if you doubt him, let him take another selfie of himself holding a paper with something written on you said he should write down(like "negah is not here"....my method is just one example though) something specific only you can think about. Or let him do a specific pose of just make a gif of himself. Because you cant have pics of the same person that isnt yours, doing something else only yyou know to do and not the original owner(since he doesnt know either guys, if the pic of bakha isnt his). But the gif thing works too.
TBH I don't care.
Found an Iranian that is a bit more Steppic than average
Kit A441045
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.37
2 Gedrosia 27.45
3 Southwest_Asian 11.03
4 North_European 8.83
5 Atlantic_Med 8.01
6 South_Asian 5.87
7 Siberian 2.01
8 East_Asian 0.61
9 East_African 0.45
10 Sub_Saharan 0.3
11 Northwest_African 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.28
2 Iranians (Behar) 6.85
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 7.95
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.91
5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 12
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14.52
7 Turks (Behar) 15.83
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.73
9 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.45
10 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 20.23
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 20.7
12 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 20.9
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 20.93
14 Lezgins (Behar) 21.17
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 21.52
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 22.07
17 Lebanese (Behar) 22.19
18 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.34
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 22.4
20 Syrians (Behar) 23.6
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 3.03
2 91.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 3.04
3 91.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.04
4 91.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Irish (Dodecad) @ 3.05
5 91.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.6% British (Dodecad) @ 3.09
6 91.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.7% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 3.11
7 91.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.5% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 3.12
8 91.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.7% English (Dodecad) @ 3.13
9 91.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.13
10 91.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.8% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 3.14
11 86.2% Iranians (Behar) + 13.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.16
12 92% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.17
13 91.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.18
14 90.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.2% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.19
15 89.1% Iranians (Behar) + 10.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.22
16 92% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.28
17 86.4% Iranians (Behar) + 13.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.29
18 85.9% Iranians (Behar) + 14.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.31
19 73.9% Turks (Behar) + 26.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.35
20 90.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.1% French (HGDP) @ 3.4
--------------------------
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.04
2 Baloch 26.7
3 SW-Asian 10.29
4 NE-Euro 8.32
5 Mediterranean 6.17
6 S-Indian 5.28
7 Siberian 2.58
8 NE-Asian 0.81
9 E-African 0.31
10 Pygmy 0.29
11 W-African 0.15
12 Papuan 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 4.09
2 kurd (harappa) 5.63
3 iranian (behar) 6.48
4 kurd (yunusbayev) 7.7
5 kurd (xing) 8.14
6 azeri (harappa) 9.15
7 turkish (harappa) 9.47
8 turkmen (yunusbayev) 12.4
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.6
10 armenian (harappa) 12.95
11 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 13.29
12 turk (behar) 13.34
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 13.41
14 kumyk (yunusbayev) 14.57
15 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.65
16 stalskoe (xing) 15.25
17 lezgin (behar) 17.07
18 assyrian (harappa) 17.1
19 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 17.3
20 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 17.46
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.8% azeri (harappa) + 20.2% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.29
2 81.2% azeri (harappa) + 18.8% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.32
3 94.7% iranian (harappa) + 5.3% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.5
4 95% iranian (harappa) + 5% russian (hgdp) @ 2.51
5 94.6% iranian (harappa) + 5.4% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.52
6 79.5% azeri (harappa) + 20.5% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.53
7 95% iranian (harappa) + 5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.53
8 95.5% iranian (harappa) + 4.5% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.53
9 94.7% iranian (harappa) + 5.3% n-european (xing) @ 2.54
10 94.8% iranian (harappa) + 5.2% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 2.54
11 95% iranian (harappa) + 5% orcadian (hgdp) @ 2.55
12 94.1% iranian (harappa) + 5.9% slovenian (xing) @ 2.56
13 95% iranian (harappa) + 5% russian (behar) @ 2.56
14 94% iranian (harappa) + 6% hungarian (behar) @ 2.57
15 94.8% iranian (harappa) + 5.2% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 2.57
16 94.9% iranian (harappa) + 5.1% british (1000genomes) @ 2.57
17 96.1% iranian (harappa) + 3.9% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.65
18 94.5% iranian (harappa) + 5.5% chuvash (behar) @ 2.66
19 94.6% iranian (harappa) + 5.4% french (hgdp) @ 2.73
20 72.8% turk (behar) + 27.2% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.74
--------------------------
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.49
2 East_Med 24.13
3 South_Asian 12.13
4 West_Med 6.49
5 Red_Sea 5.1
6 North_Atlantic 4.95
7 Baltic 3.86
8 Siberian 2.38
9 Sub-Saharan 0.41
10 Amerindian 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish 6.38
2 Iranian 6.84
3 Azeri 8.07
4 Kumyk 12.59
5 Turkish 13.23
6 Armenian 14.02
7 Adygei 14.4
8 Turkmen 14.43
9 Georgian 14.51
10 Georgian_Jewish 15.39
11 Ossetian 15.48
12 Balkar 15.85
13 Abhkasian 16.01
14 North_Ossetian 16.69
15 Kabardin 16.7
16 Lezgin 17.74
17 Chechen 17.83
18 Assyrian 17.93
19 Tabassaran 19.41
20 Iranian_Jewish 19.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78% Kurdish + 22% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.38
2 83.8% Kurdish + 16.2% Kalash @ 2.57
3 84.7% Kurdish + 15.3% Burusho @ 2.68
4 77.4% Azeri + 22.6% Brahui @ 2.71
5 60.4% Armenian + 39.6% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.73
6 77.3% Azeri + 22.7% Balochi @ 2.74
7 86.1% Kurdish + 13.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.83
8 84.3% Kurdish + 15.7% Pathan @ 2.93
9 73.7% Azeri + 26.3% Makrani @ 2.94
10 86.2% Kurdish + 13.8% Sindhi @ 3.12
11 78.6% Kurdish + 21.4% Tadjik @ 3.19
12 82.5% Kurdish + 17.5% Balochi @ 3.3
13 82.9% Kurdish + 17.1% Brahui @ 3.47
14 58.1% Georgian_Jewish + 41.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.48
15 89.9% Kurdish + 10.1% Gujarati @ 3.49
16 89.7% Kurdish + 10.3% Brahmin_UP @ 3.53
17 78.9% Kurdish + 21.1% Afghan_Tadjik @ 3.54
18 79.9% Kurdish + 20.1% Makrani @ 3.57
19 90.3% Kurdish + 9.7% Kshatriya @ 3.65
20 62.3% Turkish + 37.7% Makrani @ 3.74
Oghuz
10-27-2019, 04:08 PM
Found an Iranian that is a bit more Steppic than average
Kit A441045
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.37
2 Gedrosia 27.45
3 Southwest_Asian 11.03
4 North_European 8.83
5 Atlantic_Med 8.01
6 South_Asian 5.87
7 Siberian 2.01
8 East_Asian 0.61
9 East_African 0.45
10 Sub_Saharan 0.3
11 Northwest_African 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.28
2 Iranians (Behar) 6.85
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 7.95
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.91
5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 12
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14.52
7 Turks (Behar) 15.83
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.73
9 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.45
10 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 20.23
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 20.7
12 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 20.9
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 20.93
14 Lezgins (Behar) 21.17
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 21.52
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 22.07
17 Lebanese (Behar) 22.19
18 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.34
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 22.4
20 Syrians (Behar) 23.6
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 3.03
2 91.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 3.04
3 91.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.04
4 91.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.5% Irish (Dodecad) @ 3.05
5 91.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.6% British (Dodecad) @ 3.09
6 91.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.7% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 3.11
7 91.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.5% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 3.12
8 91.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.7% English (Dodecad) @ 3.13
9 91.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.13
10 91.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.8% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 3.14
11 86.2% Iranians (Behar) + 13.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.16
12 92% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.17
13 91.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.18
14 90.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.2% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.19
15 89.1% Iranians (Behar) + 10.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.22
16 92% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.28
17 86.4% Iranians (Behar) + 13.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.29
18 85.9% Iranians (Behar) + 14.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.31
19 73.9% Turks (Behar) + 26.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.35
20 90.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.1% French (HGDP) @ 3.4
--------------------------
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.04
2 Baloch 26.7
3 SW-Asian 10.29
4 NE-Euro 8.32
5 Mediterranean 6.17
6 S-Indian 5.28
7 Siberian 2.58
8 NE-Asian 0.81
9 E-African 0.31
10 Pygmy 0.29
11 W-African 0.15
12 Papuan 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 4.09
2 kurd (harappa) 5.63
3 iranian (behar) 6.48
4 kurd (yunusbayev) 7.7
5 kurd (xing) 8.14
6 azeri (harappa) 9.15
7 turkish (harappa) 9.47
8 turkmen (yunusbayev) 12.4
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.6
10 armenian (harappa) 12.95
11 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 13.29
12 turk (behar) 13.34
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 13.41
14 kumyk (yunusbayev) 14.57
15 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.65
16 stalskoe (xing) 15.25
17 lezgin (behar) 17.07
18 assyrian (harappa) 17.1
19 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 17.3
20 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 17.46
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.8% azeri (harappa) + 20.2% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.29
2 81.2% azeri (harappa) + 18.8% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.32
3 94.7% iranian (harappa) + 5.3% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.5
4 95% iranian (harappa) + 5% russian (hgdp) @ 2.51
5 94.6% iranian (harappa) + 5.4% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.52
6 79.5% azeri (harappa) + 20.5% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.53
7 95% iranian (harappa) + 5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.53
8 95.5% iranian (harappa) + 4.5% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.53
9 94.7% iranian (harappa) + 5.3% n-european (xing) @ 2.54
10 94.8% iranian (harappa) + 5.2% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 2.54
11 95% iranian (harappa) + 5% orcadian (hgdp) @ 2.55
12 94.1% iranian (harappa) + 5.9% slovenian (xing) @ 2.56
13 95% iranian (harappa) + 5% russian (behar) @ 2.56
14 94% iranian (harappa) + 6% hungarian (behar) @ 2.57
15 94.8% iranian (harappa) + 5.2% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 2.57
16 94.9% iranian (harappa) + 5.1% british (1000genomes) @ 2.57
17 96.1% iranian (harappa) + 3.9% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.65
18 94.5% iranian (harappa) + 5.5% chuvash (behar) @ 2.66
19 94.6% iranian (harappa) + 5.4% french (hgdp) @ 2.73
20 72.8% turk (behar) + 27.2% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.74
--------------------------
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.49
2 East_Med 24.13
3 South_Asian 12.13
4 West_Med 6.49
5 Red_Sea 5.1
6 North_Atlantic 4.95
7 Baltic 3.86
8 Siberian 2.38
9 Sub-Saharan 0.41
10 Amerindian 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish 6.38
2 Iranian 6.84
3 Azeri 8.07
4 Kumyk 12.59
5 Turkish 13.23
6 Armenian 14.02
7 Adygei 14.4
8 Turkmen 14.43
9 Georgian 14.51
10 Georgian_Jewish 15.39
11 Ossetian 15.48
12 Balkar 15.85
13 Abhkasian 16.01
14 North_Ossetian 16.69
15 Kabardin 16.7
16 Lezgin 17.74
17 Chechen 17.83
18 Assyrian 17.93
19 Tabassaran 19.41
20 Iranian_Jewish 19.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78% Kurdish + 22% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.38
2 83.8% Kurdish + 16.2% Kalash @ 2.57
3 84.7% Kurdish + 15.3% Burusho @ 2.68
4 77.4% Azeri + 22.6% Brahui @ 2.71
5 60.4% Armenian + 39.6% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.73
6 77.3% Azeri + 22.7% Balochi @ 2.74
7 86.1% Kurdish + 13.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.83
8 84.3% Kurdish + 15.7% Pathan @ 2.93
9 73.7% Azeri + 26.3% Makrani @ 2.94
10 86.2% Kurdish + 13.8% Sindhi @ 3.12
11 78.6% Kurdish + 21.4% Tadjik @ 3.19
12 82.5% Kurdish + 17.5% Balochi @ 3.3
13 82.9% Kurdish + 17.1% Brahui @ 3.47
14 58.1% Georgian_Jewish + 41.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.48
15 89.9% Kurdish + 10.1% Gujarati @ 3.49
16 89.7% Kurdish + 10.3% Brahmin_UP @ 3.53
17 78.9% Kurdish + 21.1% Afghan_Tadjik @ 3.54
18 79.9% Kurdish + 20.1% Makrani @ 3.57
19 90.3% Kurdish + 9.7% Kshatriya @ 3.65
20 62.3% Turkish + 37.7% Makrani @ 3.74
I bet this guy looks alpine or caucusus type.
I bet this guy looks alpine or caucusus type.
What makes you think that? He's not very Caucasus shifted (for Iranian standards)
hussein khan
10-28-2019, 04:16 PM
Mashdad iranian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 29.91
2 Caucasus 29.02
3 North_European 10.78
4 Southwest_Asian 9.12
5 South_Asian 9.07
6 Atlantic_Med 6.44
7 East_Asian 3.78
8 Siberian 0.74
9 Sub_Saharan 0.69
10 East_African 0.22
11 Southeast_Asian 0.12
12 Northwest_African 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 9.07
2 Iranians (Behar) 11.94
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 13.12
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 14.63
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 15.93
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 15.93
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 21.77
8 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 22.16
9 Turks (Behar) 22.32
10 Lezgins (Behar) 23.42
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.97
12 Pathan (HGDP) 25.83
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.86
14 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 27.6
15 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 27.77
16 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 27.88
17 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 27.95
18 Lebanese (Behar) 28.11
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 28.29
20 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 28.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 42.7% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.6
2 53.8% Turks (Behar) + 46.2% Pathan (HGDP) @ 4.64
3 65.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 34.7% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.84
4 52% Turkish (Dodecad) + 48% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.05
5 58.3% Iranians (Behar) + 41.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.07
6 50.9% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 49.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.24
7 67.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 32.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.25
8 62.7% Turks (Behar) + 37.3% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 5.36
9 56.8% Turks (Behar) + 43.2% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.45
10 60.9% Turks (Behar) + 39.1% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 5.49
11 70.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 29.6% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.5
12 71.4% Kurd (Dodecad) + 28.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 5.66
13 75.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 24.4% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 5.67
14 55.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 44.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.69
15 50.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 49.4% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.72
16 69.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 30.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 5.8
17 54.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 45.5% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.86
18 50.7% Burusho (HGDP) + 49.3% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 5.88
19 54.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.96
20 51.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 48.8% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.96
Mashdad iranian:
Post his # or at least add Eurogenes K13.
Babak
10-28-2019, 05:27 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/d4/ec/d4d4ecf29d5101323e42d2a0c47c2205.jpg
hussein khan
11-01-2019, 03:15 PM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 38.05
2 East_Med 19.72
3 South_Asian 15.97
4 Baltic 6.67
5 Red_Sea 4.55
6 North_Atlantic 4.4
7 West_Med 4.1
8 East_Asian 2.16
9 Siberian 1.97
10 Sub-Saharan 1.14
11 Amerindian 0.98
12 Northeast_African 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 10.87
2 Azeri 11.81
3 Kurdish 12.07
4 Turkmen 12.31
5 Kumyk 13.17
6 Afghan_Tadjik 15.09
7 Afghan_Pashtun 15.5
8 Tadjik 15.56
9 Adygei 15.87
10 Turkish 16.75
11 Balkar 16.76
12 Kabardin 16.9
13 Ossetian 17.12
14 Lezgin 17.37
15 Chechen 17.4
16 North_Ossetian 17.74
17 Makrani 18.06
18 Tabassaran 18.24
19 Georgian 18.67
20 Armenian 19.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.1% Azeri + 31.9% Kalash @ 1.96
2 57.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 42.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 1.98
3 59.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 40.4% Assyrian @ 2.3
4 59.1% Iranian + 40.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.49
5 62% Afghan_Pashtun + 38% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.53
6 68.9% Kurdish + 31.1% Burusho @ 2.73
7 56.5% Kurdish + 43.5% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3
8 57.1% Azeri + 42.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.1
9 61.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 38.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.13
10 68.6% Azeri + 31.4% Pathan @ 3.13
11 56.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 43.6% Armenian @ 3.42
12 69.7% Azeri + 30.3% Burusho @ 3.51
13 71.7% Iranian + 28.3% Burusho @ 3.55
14 72.2% Kurdish + 27.8% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.73
15 70.8% Iranian + 29.2% Kalash @ 3.75
16 72.7% Azeri + 27.3% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.75
17 68.3% Kurdish + 31.7% Pathan @ 3.77
18 72.7% Azeri + 27.3% Sindhi @ 3.78
19 55% Georgian_Jewish + 45% Kalash @ 3.85
20 66.6% Azeri + 33.4% Balochi @ 3.85
hussein khan
11-01-2019, 03:16 PM
There you go, leto
Babak
11-01-2019, 03:52 PM
There you go, leto
Is that an azeri or half?
Is that an azeri or half?
No, it's an Irani from Mashhad according to HK.
Is that an azeri or half?
nice joke he would have to be 50% Paki
Babak
11-01-2019, 04:46 PM
nice joke he would have to be 50% Paki
what lol
lameduck
11-01-2019, 04:50 PM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 38.05
2 East_Med 19.72
3 South_Asian 15.97
4 Baltic 6.67
5 Red_Sea 4.55
6 North_Atlantic 4.4
7 West_Med 4.1
8 East_Asian 2.16
9 Siberian 1.97
10 Sub-Saharan 1.14
11 Amerindian 0.98
12 Northeast_African 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 10.87
2 Azeri 11.81
3 Kurdish 12.07
4 Turkmen 12.31
5 Kumyk 13.17
6 Afghan_Tadjik 15.09
7 Afghan_Pashtun 15.5
8 Tadjik 15.56
9 Adygei 15.87
10 Turkish 16.75
11 Balkar 16.76
12 Kabardin 16.9
13 Ossetian 17.12
14 Lezgin 17.37
15 Chechen 17.4
16 North_Ossetian 17.74
17 Makrani 18.06
18 Tabassaran 18.24
19 Georgian 18.67
20 Armenian 19.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.1% Azeri + 31.9% Kalash @ 1.96
2 57.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 42.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 1.98
3 59.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 40.4% Assyrian @ 2.3
4 59.1% Iranian + 40.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.49
5 62% Afghan_Pashtun + 38% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.53
6 68.9% Kurdish + 31.1% Burusho @ 2.73
7 56.5% Kurdish + 43.5% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3
8 57.1% Azeri + 42.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.1
9 61.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 38.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.13
10 68.6% Azeri + 31.4% Pathan @ 3.13
11 56.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 43.6% Armenian @ 3.42
12 69.7% Azeri + 30.3% Burusho @ 3.51
13 71.7% Iranian + 28.3% Burusho @ 3.55
14 72.2% Kurdish + 27.8% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.73
15 70.8% Iranian + 29.2% Kalash @ 3.75
16 72.7% Azeri + 27.3% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.75
17 68.3% Kurdish + 31.7% Pathan @ 3.77
18 72.7% Azeri + 27.3% Sindhi @ 3.78
19 55% Georgian_Jewish + 45% Kalash @ 3.85
20 66.6% Azeri + 33.4% Balochi @ 3.85
kurd + Pathan
Georgian+kalash
Azeri+ Sindhi
Aryan game is strong in this one
kurd + Pathan
Georgian+kalash
Azeri+ Sindhi
Aryan game is strong in this one
There is a strong West to East difference in Iran it seems. Stronger than I had previously believed at least.
SharpFork
11-01-2019, 05:13 PM
There is a strong West to East difference in Iran it seems. Stronger than I had previously believed at least.
I'm not an expert, of what nature is this difference?
I'm not an expert, of what nature is this difference?
East Iran has more ancient Central Asian(Gedrosian) + Iranic(Aryan) proportions while West Iran has a stronger pull towards Caucasus and other West Asians. It's complementary to the YDNA data from Iran.
Additional to that East asian ancestry is mostly restricted to areas with Turcoman history (northwest and northeast).
Looks like Medes and Persians absorbed some native West Asian people (like the Gutians for example, but this is speculative)
I'm not an expert, of what nature is this difference?
Proximity to Afghanistan. Here you can see that some of the Central Asian pops have a crapload of Aryan compared to Iran and the Kurds.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tplp9GjbQFgCrBPh_0rcPWniSv8vK3XfcHKhcCPih-0/edit?usp=sharing
Spreadsheet with all the tajiki samples(from pamiris to tajikis)
(Obviously that is not say most of them are supposed to look like Russians or something)
SharpFork
11-01-2019, 05:26 PM
East Iran has more ancient Central Asian(Gedrosian) + Iranic(Aryan) proportions while West Iran has a stronger pull towards Caucasus and other West Asians. It's complementary to the YDNA data from Iran.
Additional to that East asian ancestry is mostly restricted to areas with Turcoman history (northwest and northeast).
Looks like Medians and Persians absorbed some native West Asian people (like the Gutians for example, but this is speculative)
Is the genetic difference noticeable in terms of general phenotypes or pigmentation? Also how would we know about Medians given their areas today are mostly Azeri?
Is the genetic difference noticeable in terms of general phenotypes or pigmentation? Also how would we know about Medians given their areas today are mostly Azeri?
Don't know to be honest. That's a question for the Iranian members here..
Persians are said to be derived from the Medes aswell. Probably Median + Elamite.
Also Azeris still have a lot of Iranic ancestry. And we still have other Northwestern Iranian groups like the Talysh,Tats or Gilakis.
SharpFork
11-01-2019, 05:41 PM
Don't know to be honest. That's a question for the Iranian members here..
Persians are said to be derived from the Medes aswell. Probably Median + Elamite.
Also Azeris still have a lot of Iranic ancestry. And we still have other Northwestern Iranian groups like the Talysh,Tats or Gilakis.
But the problem is that the Azeris even if we remove their East Eurasian component, would have elevated Gedrosian+IEuropean ancestry too and the problem with those 3 Iranic groups is that they lived closer to the or even right on the Caucasus, so they might not be the best fit for your common Median living around Ectabana.
But the problem is that the Azeris even if we remove their East Eurasian component, would have elevated Gedrosian+IEuropean ancestry too and the problem with those 3 Iranic groups is that they lived closer to the or even right on the Caucasus, so they might not be the best fit for your common Median living around Ectabana.
I think a lot of Persian speakers are mostly Median too. Especially those from Hamedan region. And then there are the Kurds too who are also mostly Median. These groups (like Medes & Persians) are very ancient though, it might not be the smartest thing to look for pure descendants.
Babak
11-02-2019, 02:13 AM
I'm not an expert, of what nature is this difference?
There is no difference. Iranians are aryans.
SharpFork
11-02-2019, 01:53 PM
There is no difference. Iranians are aryans.
Wot? They don't seem to be fully Indo-European nor pure proto-Indo-Iranian
Babak
11-02-2019, 03:26 PM
Wot? They don't seem to be fully Indo-European nor pure proto-Indo-Iranian
Who cares lmao.
Philologist J.P. Mallory argues that "As an ethnic designation, the word [Aryan] is most properly limited to the Indo-Iranians, and most justly to the latter where it still gives its name to the country Iran.[4]
Scholars point out that, even in ancient times, the idea of being an "Aryan" was religious, cultural and linguistic, not racial.[9][10][11]
Any Gilak GEDmatch results?
Gilak Y-DNA distribution based on 64 samples from the Gilan province (simplified by me)
E1b 3.2%
G1 1.6%
G2 14.1%
H 1.6%
I1 1.6%
J1 12.5%
J2 23.5%
L 4.8%
Q 1.6%
R1* 3.1%
R1a 9.4%
R1b 20.4%
R2 3.1%
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3399854/
Negah
11-02-2019, 04:04 PM
Any Gilak GEDmatch results?
Gilak Y-DNA distribution based on 64 samples from the Gilan province (simplified by me)
E1b 3.2%
G1 1.6%
G2 14.1%
H 1.6%
I1 1.6%
J1 12.5%
J2 23.5%
L 4.8%
Q 1.6%
R1* 3.1%
R1a 9.4%
R1b 20.4%
R2 3.1%
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3399854/
82% of the population are the following:
R1b, R1a, (20.4% + 9.4% = 29.8%)
J2, J1 (23.5%+12.5% = 36.0%)
G2, G1 (14.1% + 1.6% = 15.7%)
Negah
11-02-2019, 04:07 PM
There is a strong West to East difference in Iran it seems. Stronger than I had previously believed at least.
Central Iran has a desert that divides the country (east and west ). Zagros mountains are the wall that separates Iran from the Arab world.
https://www.freeworldmaps.net/asia/iran/iran-map.jpg
Negah
11-02-2019, 04:09 PM
Mashdad iranian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 29.91
2 Caucasus 29.02
3 North_European 10.78
4 Southwest_Asian 9.12
5 South_Asian 9.07
6 Atlantic_Med 6.44
7 East_Asian 3.78
8 Siberian 0.74
9 Sub_Saharan 0.69
10 East_African 0.22
11 Southeast_Asian 0.12
12 Northwest_African 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 9.07
2 Iranians (Behar) 11.94
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 13.12
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 14.63
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 15.93
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 15.93
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 21.77
8 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 22.16
9 Turks (Behar) 22.32
10 Lezgins (Behar) 23.42
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.97
12 Pathan (HGDP) 25.83
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.86
14 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 27.6
15 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 27.77
16 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 27.88
17 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 27.95
18 Lebanese (Behar) 28.11
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 28.29
20 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 28.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 42.7% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.6
2 53.8% Turks (Behar) + 46.2% Pathan (HGDP) @ 4.64
3 65.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 34.7% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.84
4 52% Turkish (Dodecad) + 48% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.05
5 58.3% Iranians (Behar) + 41.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.07
6 50.9% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 49.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.24
7 67.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 32.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.25
8 62.7% Turks (Behar) + 37.3% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 5.36
9 56.8% Turks (Behar) + 43.2% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.45
10 60.9% Turks (Behar) + 39.1% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 5.49
11 70.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 29.6% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.5
12 71.4% Kurd (Dodecad) + 28.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 5.66
13 75.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 24.4% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 5.67
14 55.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 44.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.69
15 50.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 49.4% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.72
16 69.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 30.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 5.8
17 54.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 45.5% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.86
18 50.7% Burusho (HGDP) + 49.3% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 5.88
19 54.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.96
20 51.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 48.8% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.96
what is the ethnicity of this person? He or she seems to have some central Asian ancestry.
Negah
11-02-2019, 04:20 PM
I'm not an expert, of what nature is this difference?
Geography, there are two deserts in the middle of the country. Iranians are mountain people. Low lands are mostly inhabitable. The only place that is low land and populated is Southern Khuzestan.
Negah
11-02-2019, 04:25 PM
There is a strong West to East difference in Iran it seems. Stronger than I had previously believed at least.
East Iran is sparsely populated. The only area that is heavily populated is NE Iran ( Mashhad, Nishapour, etc), and this population connects Iran to Central Asia and Afghanistan. There are couple of secondary population centers in the east inhabited by Bloachis and Sitanis ( Zabolis)
Negah
11-02-2019, 04:33 PM
Don't know to be honest. That's a question for the Iranian members here..
Persians are said to be derived from the Medes aswell. Probably Median + Elamite.
Also Azeris still have a lot of Iranic ancestry. And we still have other Northwestern Iranian groups like the Talysh,Tats or Gilakis.
Persians and Persian language are from SW Iran and it expanded north towards Ray ( Tehran and North East towards Mashhad and Nishapur and later on towards Herat, Balkh, Samarkand, Bukhara, etc through the process of elite dominance mainly. I suspect Medes and Azeri are probably closely linked but also Persians from Ray, Ecbatana ( ie Tehran and Hamadan ).
Hamadan of today is populated by Persians (75%) and Azeris (25%).
Persian and Persian languages are from SW Iran and it expanded north towards Ray ( Tehran and North East towards Mashhad and Nishapur and later on towards Herat, Balkh, Samarkand, Bukhara, etc through the process of elite dominance mainly. I suspect Medes and Azeri are probably closely linked but also Persians from Ray, Ecbatana ( ie Tehran and Hamadan ).
Hamadan of today is populated by Persians (75%) and Azeris (25%).
yep, that's what I was thinking
Negah
11-02-2019, 05:22 PM
yep, that's what I was thinking
I must also include Kurds when we talk about Medes. I suspect Medes were a diverse bunch of people who were unified under Deioces rulehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deioces. Probably a confederation of groups who found a common cause to unite and form an Empire.
Iran's geography lends itself to having many diverse groups of people.
SharpFork
11-02-2019, 07:04 PM
Who cares lmao.
Philologist J.P. Mallory argues that "As an ethnic designation, the word [Aryan] is most properly limited to the Indo-Iranians, and most justly to the latter where it still gives its name to the country Iran.[4]
Scholars point out that, even in ancient times, the idea of being an "Aryan" was religious, cultural and linguistic, not racial.[9][10][11]
We are in a genetics section of the forum, we care about actual genetic similaritiy and ancestry, not self-perceived kinship.
Babak
11-03-2019, 09:55 PM
PCA Plots:
https://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article/figure/image?size=large&id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1008385.g001
Kamal900
11-03-2019, 09:58 PM
PCA Plots:
https://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article/figure/image?size=large&id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1008385.g001
We're one big happy family that is called the middle eastern family, lol.
Babak
11-03-2019, 10:01 PM
[1] "distance%=2.5902 / distance=0.025902"
Hasanlu_IA
Hajji_Firuz_ChL 46.2
Turkmenistan_IA 26.4
Seh_Gabi_ChL 19.8
BedouinB 7.5
Ganj_Dareh_N 0.0
Tepe_Hissar_ChL 0.0
Mbuti 0.0
Bhumij 0.0
Mongolian 0.0
[1] "distance%=2.8807 / distance=0.028807"
Hajji_Firuz_IA
Hajji_Firuz_ChL 37.2
Turkmenistan_IA 27.9
Seh_Gabi_ChL 26.9
BedouinB 3.9
Tepe_Hissar_ChL 3.0
Mongolian 1.0
Ganj_Dareh_N 0.0
Mbuti 0.0
Bhumij 0.0
[1] "distance%=1.5644 / distance=0.015644"
Kurdish
Hajji_Firuz_ChL 61.70
Turkmenistan_IA 27.15
BedouinB 5.25
Seh_Gabi_ChL 4.55
Mongolian 1.35
Ganj_Dareh_N 0.00
Tepe_Hissar_ChL 0.00
Mbuti 0.00
Bhumij 0.00
[1] "distance%=1.1973 / distance=0.011973"
Iranian_Fars
Hajji_Firuz_ChL 34.65
Turkmenistan_IA 33.25
Seh_Gabi_ChL 20.55
BedouinB 6.00
Bhumij 3.10
Mongolian 2.30
Tepe_Hissar_ChL 0.15
Ganj_Dareh_N 0.00
Mbuti 0.00
[1] "distance%=1.4713 / distance=0.014713"
Iranian_Zoroastrian
Turkmenistan_IA 38.25
Hajji_Firuz_ChL 34.60
Seh_Gabi_ChL 18.55
BedouinB 6.35
Bhumij 2.25
Ganj_Dareh_N 0.00
Tepe_Hissar_ChL 0.00
Mbuti 0.00
Mongolian 0.00
[1] "distance%=1.3489 / distance=0.013489"
Iranian_Lor
Hajji_Firuz_ChL 46.35
Turkmenistan_IA 24.75
Seh_Gabi_ChL 18.75
BedouinB 6.00
Bhumij 1.80
Mongolian 1.80
Tepe_Hissar_ChL 0.55
Ganj_Dareh_N 0.00
Mbuti 0.00
[1] "distance%=1.4704 / distance=0.014704"
Iranian_Mazandarani
Hajji_Firuz_ChL 45.00
Tepe_Hissar_ChL 28.35
Turkmenistan_IA 23.50
Bhumij 2.60
Mongolian 0.40
BedouinB 0.15
Ganj_Dareh_N 0.00
Seh_Gabi_ChL 0.00
Mbuti 0.00
Azeris:
Azeris
[1] "distance%=1.3714 / distance=0.013714"
Azeri_Iran
Hajji_Firuz_ChL 62.1
Turkmenistan_IA 26.4
Mongolian 7.2
BedouinB 4.2
Ganj_Dareh_N 0.0
Bhumij 0.0
Mbuti 0.0
Seh_Gabi_ChL 0.0
Tepe_Hissar_ChL 0.0
hussein khan
11-04-2019, 02:27 PM
PCA Plots:
https://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article/figure/image?size=large&id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1008385.g001
Who made this? When is it from and which kind of dna-program is used(like g25, admixture, gedmatch etc)?
For anyone interested in the Mytrueancestry Journey (lol) here are the updated results for my father (they have a Safavid reference now):
Ancient Populations (It's getting closer):
Safavid (10.02)
Hellenic Roman + Safavid (13.18)
Pontic + Safavid (13.31)
Modern:
1. Azeri (7.627)
2. Turk (7.641)
3. Kurdish (8.250)
4. Iranian (8.648)
5. Turkish (11.10)
6. Azeri (11.46)
7. Greek_Azov (12.32)
8. Cirkassian (13.14)
capt 320
11-23-2019, 02:46 PM
Hi everyone, im new here and I don't know too much about gedmatch so can any one help me please? this is my kit number T347614
Hi everyone, im new here and I don't know too much about gedmatch so can any one help me please? this is my kit number T347614
Judging from your Results you are either from Central Iran or Mazandaran, am I correct?
Other than that very persian results I would say.
Hi everyone, im new here and I don't know too much about gedmatch so can any one help me please? this is my kit number T347614
Hi,
You seem a bit more South Asian and also I see some minor black African percentage
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35
2 Baloch 30.78
3 SW-Asian 14.47
4 S-Indian 6.63
5 NE-Euro 5.53
6 Mediterranean 4.08
7 W-African 1.73
8 Siberian 0.83
9 E-African 0.46
10 Beringian 0.38
11 American 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 5.53
2 iranian (harappa) 7.76
3 kurd (harappa) 8.6
4 kurd (xing) 10.27
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 11.37
6 turkmen (yunusbayev) 14.5
7 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.52
8 turkish (harappa) 15.22
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 15.24
10 azeri (harappa) 15.68
11 armenian (harappa) 17.14
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 18.4
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 19.72
14 turk (behar) 19.89
15 iranian-jew (behar) 20.01
16 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 20.07
17 assyrian (harappa) 20.12
18 palestinian (harappa) 20.14
19 stalskoe (xing) 21.08
20 tajik (yunusbayev) 21.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.2% iranian (behar) + 13.8% bhatia (harappa) @ 1.92
2 87.2% iranian (behar) + 12.8% sindhi (hgdp) @ 2.04
3 84.6% iranian (behar) + 15.4% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.12
4 85.5% iranian (behar) + 14.5% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.2
5 85.4% iranian (behar) + 14.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.24
6 87.6% iranian (behar) + 12.4% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 2.27
7 84.5% iranian (behar) + 15.5% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.27
8 87% iranian (behar) + 13% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.34
9 86.3% iranian (behar) + 13.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.49
10 88.3% iranian (behar) + 11.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 2.49
11 88.6% iranian (behar) + 11.4% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.5
12 88.3% iranian (behar) + 11.7% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.53
13 88.2% iranian (behar) + 11.8% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.53
14 87% iranian (behar) + 13% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.53
15 85.3% iranian (behar) + 14.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.56
16 87.8% iranian (behar) + 12.2% punjabi (harappa) @ 2.63
17 87.6% iranian (behar) + 12.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.65
18 87.7% iranian (behar) + 12.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 2.66
19 87.2% iranian (behar) + 12.8% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 2.67
20 86.7% iranian (behar) + 13.3% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.68
Babak
11-23-2019, 03:52 PM
Who made this? When is it from and which kind of dna-program is used(like g25, admixture, gedmatch etc)?
Not sure. A discord user sent to me.
Afghan siblings, most likely Tajiks. See how different they are from Iranians
(Dodecad K12b, HarappaWorld, MDLP K23b)
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 31.1
2 Caucasus 18.08
3 South_Asian 16.84
4 North_European 14.97
5 East_Asian 9.23
6 Siberian 4.89
7 Atlantic_Med 2.66
8 Southwest_Asian 1.89
9 Southeast_Asian 0.17
10 Sub_Saharan 0.16
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 31.21
2 South_Asian 18.11
3 Caucasus 15.95
4 North_European 14.31
5 East_Asian 8
6 Siberian 7.13
7 Atlantic_Med 3.83
8 Southwest_Asian 1.25
9 Sub_Saharan 0.19
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 31.11
2 Caucasian 19.4
3 S-Indian 17.09
4 NE-Euro 13.98
5 NE-Asian 7.61
6 Siberian 4.82
7 Mediterranean 2.61
8 Beringian 1.36
9 SW-Asian 1.14
10 W-African 0.4
11 SE-Asian 0.38
12 American 0.1
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 30.36
2 Caucasian 18.59
3 S-Indian 17.76
4 NE-Euro 14.15
5 Siberian 7.13
6 NE-Asian 6.61
7 Mediterranean 2.27
8 Beringian 1.17
9 SW-Asian 0.66
10 American 0.51
11 W-African 0.39
12 SE-Asian 0.36
# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 30.16
2 Caucasian 19.49
3 South_Indian 17.43
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.9
5 Tungus-Altaic 6.83
6 Ancestral_Altaic 5.05
7 South_East_Asian 3.2
8 East_Siberian 2.34
9 European_Early_Farmers 1.71
10 Near_East 0.95
11 Arctic 0.92
12 Austronesian 0.85
13 Subsaharian 0.84
14 North_African 0.24
# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 30.15
2 South_Indian 17.99
3 Caucasian 17.41
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 10.35
5 Tungus-Altaic 8.21
6 Ancestral_Altaic 4.82
7 East_Siberian 3.81
8 South_East_Asian 2.52
9 European_Early_Farmers 1.46
10 Near_East 1.04
11 African_Pygmy 0.85
12 Arctic 0.42
13 Australoid 0.28
14 East_African 0.28
15 Subsaharian 0.21
capt 320
11-23-2019, 06:51 PM
Is it normal for an iranian ? What is my ethnicity?
Is it normal for an iranian ?
Not for all groups of Iran. But Persians (especially southern ones) can score some african. Bandaris and arabs score more. Turks and Caspians usually don't score african.
What is my ethnicity?
Iranian?
Where are you from?
@capt320
You are surely some kind of Iranian/Persian, I'm sure you don't need us to tell you that. Are you R-M198? Congrats, you're among the lucky ones, only about 15% of Iranians are R1a :thumb001::cool:
capt 320
11-23-2019, 07:24 PM
Iranian?
Where are you from?[/QUOTE]
Yes iranian from shiraz but i live in kuwait
capt 320
11-23-2019, 07:28 PM
[QUOTE=Leto;6354494]@capt320
You are surely some kind of Iranian/Persian, I'm sure you don't need us to tell you that. Are you R-M198? Congrats, you're among the lucky ones, only about 15% of Iranians are R1a :thumb001::cool:
Yes i am R-M198 but i dont know the meaning of R dna? Can you please explain more about this dna? i know its indo-European
Yes i am R-M198 but i dont know the meaning of R dna? Can you please explain more about this dna? i know its indo-European
You are most certainly Z93, that's the Asian branch of R1a, i.e. Indo-Aryan. It is said to have come to Iran and Central Asia from the Russian/Kazakh Steppe.
MDLP K23b Oracle results:
Kit T347614
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.19
2 South_Central_Asian 29.97
3 Near_East 12.04
4 South_Indian 7.94
5 North_African 5.21
6 European_Early_Farmers 3.49
7 Ancestral_Altaic 3.17
8 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.43
9 Subsaharian 1.38
10 Archaic_African 0.91
11 Arctic 0.83
12 Khoisan 0.18
13 Tungus-Altaic 0.12
14 East_Siberian 0.09
15 Archaic_Human 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian ( ) 5.79
2 Kurd_South ( ) 9.18
3 Kurd_East ( ) 10.31
4 Kurd ( ) 13.59
5 Kurd_North ( ) 14.51
6 Azeri ( ) 15.08
7 Parsi ( ) 15.12
8 Iraki ( ) 16.4
9 Baku_WGA ( ) 17.41
10 Ain_Touta_WGA ( ) 17.68
11 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 18.01
12 Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) 18.97
13 Iraqi_Mandean ( ) 19.62
14 Turk_Adana ( ) 19.91
15 Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) 20.65
16 Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) 20.76
17 Lak ( ) 21.02
18 Tabassaran ( ) 21.37
19 Dargin_Urkarah ( ) 21.56
20 Kurd_Jew ( ) 21.63
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% Kurd ( ) + 19.7% Sindhi ( ) @ 3.67
2 51.6% Iranian_Jew ( ) + 48.4% Afghan_Pushtun ( ) @ 3.76
3 53.8% Kurd_Jew ( ) + 46.2% Afghan_Pushtun ( ) @ 3.77
4 81.3% Kurd ( ) + 18.7% GujaratiA_GIH ( ) @ 3.78
5 55.8% Iranian_Jew ( ) + 44.2% Pashtun_Afghani ( ) @ 3.8
6 72.3% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) + 27.7% Sindhi ( ) @ 3.82
7 84.8% Kurd_East ( ) + 15.2% Sindhi ( ) @ 3.83
8 80.6% Kurd ( ) + 19.4% Pakistani ( ) @ 3.88
9 52.9% Kurd ( ) + 47.1% Parsi ( ) @ 3.88
10 63.8% Kurd_South ( ) + 36.2% Parsi ( ) @ 3.94
11 58% Kurd_Jew ( ) + 42% Pashtun_Afghani ( ) @ 3.95
12 60.4% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) + 39.6% Pashtun_Afghani ( ) @ 3.97
13 79% Kurd ( ) + 21% Punjabi_Gujjar ( ) @ 3.99
14 76.1% Kurd ( ) + 23.9% Pathan ( ) @ 4.04
15 81.3% Kurd_East ( ) + 18.7% Pathan ( ) @ 4.05
16 54.8% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) + 45.2% Afghan_Pushtun ( ) @ 4.06
17 80.4% Kurd ( ) + 19.6% Jatt_Muslim ( ) @ 4.06
18 78% Kurd ( ) + 22% Jatt_Pahari ( ) @ 4.06
19 82.8% Kurd ( ) + 17.2% GujaratiB_GIH ( ) @ 4.11
20 56.3% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) + 43.7% Afghan_Pushtun ( ) @ 4.11
capt 320
11-23-2019, 07:54 PM
You are most certainly Z93, that's the Asian branch of R1a, i.e. Indo-Aryan. It is said to have come to Iran and Central Asia from the Russian/Kazakh Steppe.
Wow that's interesting :thumb001::cool:
Wow that's interesting :thumb001::cool:
Yeah, sure.
Do you know your mtDNA?
capt 320
11-23-2019, 08:22 PM
Do you know your mtDNA?[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately no
Babak
11-23-2019, 10:33 PM
Do you know your mtDNA?
Unfortunately no[/QUOTE]
Your mtdna is most likely native.
capt 320
11-24-2019, 04:27 AM
So guys from your experience and according to my dna and the y-dna, am i persian / kurd /azeri / arab / somewhere ? Because my family telling me that we are persian but i want to be more sure if its true
capt 320
11-24-2019, 04:30 AM
Your mtdna is most likely native.[/QUOTE]
My mother side are same family from my father side but from my grandmother family from my mother side they are different more darker skin
So guys from your experience and according to my dna and the y-dna, am i persian / kurd /azeri / arab / somewhere ? Because my family telling me that we are persian but i want to be more sure if its true
Definetly Persian.
Ydna doesn't tell you much about the ethnicity. But in your case your ydna is also Iranic.
Negah
12-15-2019, 04:45 PM
So guys from your experience and according to my dna and the y-dna, am i persian / kurd /azeri / arab / somewhere ? Because my family telling me that we are persian but i want to be more sure if its true
Where in Iran is your family from?
Interesting Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 results for my father (with added relevant samples: Azerbaijan_Iran,Azerbaijan_Turkey, Talysh, Zaza, all Turkish regions, Armenia_East,Turkmen_Iraq...):
Most of the ancestry is from Zanjan Region (Iranian Azerbaijan):
Updated distances:
https://i.imgur.com/SYDjmtr.jpg
Single:
https://i.imgur.com/Nh3esFj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ivoqAxT.jpg
The Talysh removes stuff like Pathan for example which makes much more sense for Azerbaijani people.
Rep. Azerbaijan average distances:
Distance to: Azeri
2.65422305 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.74796288 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.53080567 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
5.16838466 Turk_South_East
5.18778373 Turkmen_Iraq
5.36514678 Turk_East
5.44465793 Zaza
6.76938697 Kurdish
6.91601041 Talysh
7.40074321 Turkish_mixed
7.56321360 Iranian
7.60771976 Lor_Iran
8.46054963 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.77313513 Turk_Central_East
10.16259809 Turk_South
10.26533974 Turk_Anatolia
10.73281417 Armenian_East
11.11012151 Turk_Central_West
12.04988382 Georgian_Jewish
13.31231385 Armenian_West
13.77255967 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.89798187 Greek_Caucasus
14.09648892 Greek_Trabzon
14.21107315 Turk_Meskhetian
14.58067214 Turkmen
Azerbaijan_Iran average:
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Iran
2.49315062 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.65422305 Azeri
3.59359152 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
4.31476535 Zaza
4.95516902 Turk_East
5.41024029 Turk_South_East
5.65622666 Talysh
5.71988636 Kurdish
5.76220444 Turkmen_Iraq
6.59429299 Lor_Iran
7.23678796 Iranian
8.38242805 Turkish_mixed
8.61936193 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.75131786 Turk_Central_East
10.07596149 Armenian_East
11.09839178 Turk_South
11.23215474 Turk_Anatolia
11.77790304 Georgian_Jewish
12.25865001 Turk_Meskhetian
12.42571930 Turk_Central_West
12.46449758 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.12016768 Greek_Caucasus
13.17401989 Armenian_West
13.55426501 Greek_Trabzon
14.48470573 Laz
Iranian average
Distance to: Iranian
2.45585016 Lor_Iran
4.81547505 Kurdish
5.32805781 Talysh
6.17995146 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
6.28716947 Zaza
7.23678796 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.56321360 Azeri
7.87274412 Turkmen_Iraq
9.24634522 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.51010942 Turk_East
11.09310597 Turk_South_East
12.05691088 Armenian_East
12.66944750 Georgian_Jewish
14.15885589 Turkish_mixed
14.43382832 Turk_Meskhetian
15.21641548 Armenian_West
15.26948264 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
15.48069443 Turk_Central_East
15.65350440 Turk_East_Black_Sea
15.70041082 Greek_Caucasus
15.83494237 Assyrian
16.69050628 Greek_Trabzon
16.76358554 Laz
16.90360612 Iranian_Jewish
16.90641298 Turk_South
Kurdish average:
Distance to: Kurdish
3.20851991 Talysh
3.25058456 Zaza
3.68298792 Lor_Iran
4.21243398 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
4.81547505 Iranian
5.71988636 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.73933973 Turkmen_Iraq
6.76938697 Azeri
7.57306411 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.85665323 Turk_East
8.97570610 Armenian_East
9.09670270 Turk_South_East
10.45243512 Turk_Meskhetian
11.29917254 Georgian_Jewish
12.07781437 Turk_East_Black_Sea
12.75632784 Greek_Caucasus
12.78751735 Laz
12.82888148 Turkish_mixed
13.17588327 Armenian_West
13.86219319 Greek_Trabzon
13.87410898 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.63380675 Turk_Central_East
14.99224466 Assyrian
16.32533614 Kumyk
16.36186114 Georgian
Talysh average:
Distance to: Talysh
3.20851991 Kurdish
3.93192065 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
4.49183704 Lor_Iran
4.56169924 Zaza
5.32805781 Iranian
5.65622666 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.91601041 Azeri
7.25027586 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.17148089 Turkmen_Iraq
8.38368654 Turk_East
9.52216362 Turk_South_East
9.96424106 Armenian_East
11.09444906 Turk_Meskhetian
12.14240092 Georgian_Jewish
12.75740569 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.32236465 Turkish_mixed
13.61970264 Greek_Caucasus
13.62728880 Laz
13.68351198 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.23866216 Armenian_West
14.46039764 Turk_Central_East
14.66136419 Greek_Trabzon
15.24325425 Kumyk
16.05610164 Assyrian
16.31170745 Turk_Anatolia
Lor average:
Distance to: Lor_Iran
2.45585016 Iranian
3.68298792 Kurdish
4.49183704 Talysh
5.02014940 Zaza
5.56460241 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
6.59429299 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.42815589 Turkmen_Iraq
7.60771976 Azeri
8.83165330 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.53029905 Turk_East
10.38391063 Turk_South_East
10.65189654 Armenian_East
11.52813515 Georgian_Jewish
12.37785927 Turk_Meskhetian
13.75603140 Turkish_mixed
13.79225145 Turk_East_Black_Sea
14.01409647 Armenian_West
14.08843142 Greek_Caucasus
14.73517221 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.76343456 Laz
15.10697190 Assyrian
15.23165782 Greek_Trabzon
15.28890774 Turk_Central_East
16.76830045 Iranian_Jewish
16.88533091 Turk_South
Turkmen average:
Distance to: Turkmen
13.49120825 Afghan_Tadjik
13.93903512 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
14.21183662 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.58067214 Azeri
14.83466548 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.09175934 Turk_South
15.81535014 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
15.85223644 Tadjik
15.85577497 Turk_Anatolia
16.37858968 Kumyk
16.47314481 Nogay
16.59620137 Turk_North_West
16.95890327 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
17.02162448 Turk_Central_East
17.02408882 Turk_Central_West
17.53371609 Talysh
17.71179833 Turkish_mixed
17.97510501 Turk_South_East
18.07878868 Iranian
18.24078397 Turk_East
18.47763784 Zaza
18.58552125 Kurdish
18.71183583 Lor_Iran
19.13145316 Turkmen_Iraq
19.39612590 Balkar
Azerbaijani_Turkey average:
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.49315062 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.74796288 Azeri
4.31287607 Turk_East
4.42109715 Turk_South_East
5.00388849 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
5.85573223 Zaza
6.69274234 Turkmen_Iraq
6.89631061 Turkish_mixed
6.91984104 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.25027586 Talysh
7.57306411 Kurdish
7.92879562 Turk_Central_East
8.83165330 Lor_Iran
9.24634522 Iranian
9.30834572 Turk_Anatolia
9.41418610 Turk_South
10.49114388 Turk_Central_West
10.54933173 Armenian_East
12.48922736 Georgian_Jewish
12.67461637 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.19935983 Turk_Meskhetian
13.30476606 Greek_Caucasus
13.34785376 Armenian_West
13.40885155 Greek_Trabzon
14.08142038 Turk_North_West
Turk_Anatolia average
Distance to: Turk_Anatolia
2.02844768 Turk_South
2.30833273 Turk_Central_West
3.51244929 Turk_Central_East
4.48056916 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
5.32142838 Turkish_mixed
5.77317071 Turk_North_West
8.63677023 Turk_South_East
9.30834572 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.17094882 Turk_East
10.26533974 Azeri
11.23215474 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.75335642 Turkmen_Iraq
13.41948583 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
14.12660610 Greek_Cappadocian
14.18453736 Zaza
15.85577497 Turkmen
16.28259807 Greek_Chios
16.31170745 Talysh
16.32867110 Armenian_East
16.50111511 Kurdish
16.52025424 Greek_Trabzon
16.61163147 Armenian_West
16.87462888 Georgian_Jewish
17.20660920 Lor_Iran
17.30758215 Iranian
Father's ancient k15
https://i.imgur.com/86rop7N.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WFLmFJ3.jpg
Ritz06
12-21-2019, 09:05 PM
Father's ancient k15
https://i.imgur.com/86rop7N.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WFLmFJ3.jpg
North Norwegian hunter gathere :)
North Norwegian hunter gathere :)
I think my father is a bit steppe shifted for both Azeri and Iranians
Ritz06
12-21-2019, 09:28 PM
wrong
Ritz06
12-21-2019, 09:30 PM
I think my father is a bit steppe shifted for both Azeri and Iranians
whats the source you used for ancient k15?
whats the source you used for ancient k15?
The default ancient samples on Vahaduo as source and my father's k15 results as target
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k15ancient-vahaduo.htm
Ritz06
12-21-2019, 10:05 PM
The default ancient samples on Vahaduo as source and my father's k15 results as target
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k15ancient-vahaduo.htm
didnt work :(
Ritz06
12-21-2019, 10:07 PM
Target: TL_scaled
Distance: 3.6148% / 0.03614795
42.8 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic
42.2 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
9.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.2 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
2.0 Devils_Gate_Cave
1.0 Caucasus_Mesolithic
0.6 Levant_Natufian
Target: TL_scaled
Distance: 1.2485% / 0.01248472 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 Belgian
22.8 Tajik_Yagnobi
10.2 Turkish_Istanbul
9.6 Turkish_Balkans
7.4 Azeri_Dagestan
5.0 Cherkes
1.2 Abazin
0.8 Tabasaran
Impaler
12-21-2019, 10:10 PM
Happy Yalda for all Iranians! :party-smiley-006:
War Chef
01-05-2020, 09:47 PM
5,6,7 % European genes. Not very much
5,6,7 % European genes. Not very much
Yes, on HarappaWorld Iranians get 1-10% NE-European (5% on average) depending on the ethnic group, province or individual. Obviously not a white country ;)
Nomansman
01-06-2020, 12:49 AM
Yes, on HarappaWorld Iranians get 1-10% NE-European (5% on average) depending on the ethnic group, province or individual. Obviously not a white country ;)
They also get around 6% med on avg, which can also be counted as european(since euros can get lot of it)
but yeah, not as euro shifted as pamiris who can get 26% NE-Euro/Med component on avg and even up to 29%
Isfahan + Khuzestan (from Youtube)
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.14
2 Gedrosia 26.17
3 Southwest_Asian 12.11
4 Atlantic_Med 8.53
5 North_European 6.45
6 South_Asian 4.60
7 Southeast_Asian 1.49
8 East_African 1.01
Distance to: Isfahan_Khuzestan
4.52542816 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.91306422 Kurd_Sorani
5.04748452 Lur_Iran
5.27634343 Iranian
5.29641388 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.71410535 Iranian_Fars
5.72732922 Zaza
6.36645898 Kurd
6.45895502 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.68743598 Iranians
6.85403531 Kurds
7.00009286 Turkmen_Iraq
7.75529497 Iran_Central_East
7.81261800 Azerbaijani
8.40511749 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.53731808 Iran_Mazandaran
9.93995976 Iran_Khorasan
10.32784101 Turk_Southeast
12.08345149 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.14875714 Turk_East
12.57685970 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.34258596 Turk_Central_East
14.26034712 Armenian_East
14.29130155 Turk_South
15.22998687 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
His Father (ethnic Persian from Khuzestan)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.84
2 Gedrosia 26.93
3 Southwest_Asian 13.97
4 Atlantic_Med 8.21
5 North_European 5.14
6 South_Asian 3.36
7 East_African 1.74
8 Northwest_African 1.39
Distance to: Khuzestan
3.54974647 Lur_Iran
3.94410953 Kurd_Sorani
4.53604453 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.08826100 Kurd
5.13949414 Iranians
5.34058049 Iranian_Fars
5.40965803 Iranian
6.01671006 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.03024875 Zaza
6.11708264 Turkmen_Iraq
6.22482128 Kurds
7.47628919 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.67421466 Iran_Central_East
8.81913828 Iran_Mazandaran
9.01052718 Azerbaijani
9.72380584 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.00774727 Turk_Southeast
11.29629143 Iran_Khorasan
11.38931078 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.99973461 Turk_East
14.36173388 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.40563084 Turk_Central_East
14.49647198 Armenian_East
14.96836330 Assyrian
15.31197897 Turk_South
Cool results, typical Persians.
Negah
03-08-2020, 07:06 PM
Cool results, typical Persians.
What is your ethnicity?
What is your ethnicity?
Russian, to put it shortly.
Negah
03-08-2020, 07:14 PM
They also get around 6% med on avg, which can also be counted as european(since euros can get lot of it)
but yeah, not as euro shifted as pamiris who can get 26% NE-Euro/Med component on avg and even up to 29%
Pamirirs are a population isolate rather than a real ethnicity. Their contribution to civilization is like zero. They are interesting as far as genetics is concerned but for some reason, many groups that have been inconsequential historically from these regions get a lot of interest on these boards.
Nomansman
03-08-2020, 07:15 PM
Assumingly golestan iranian(due to having "golestani" in username):
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.39
2 Baloch 28.47
3 S-Indian 12.21
4 SW-Asian 8.85
5 NE-Euro 8.34
6 Mediterranean 3.13
7 Siberian 2.29
8 Pygmy 1.45
9 NE-Asian 1.07
10 E-African 0.7
11 W-African 0.69
12 Beringian 0.4
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkmen (yunusbayev) 11.2
2 iranian (harappa) 11.67
3 iranian (behar) 12.05
4 kurd (harappa) 13.41
5 pashtun (harappa) 15.36
6 kurd (xing) 16.08
7 kurd (yunusbayev) 16.17
8 tajik (yunusbayev) 16.5
9 azeri (harappa) 16.96
10 turkish (harappa) 17.35
11 iraqi-arab (harappa) 19.12
12 stalskoe (xing) 19.31
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 20.25
14 armenian (harappa) 20.65
15 kumyk (yunusbayev) 20.65
16 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 20.73
17 romanian-b (behar) 20.87
18 turk (behar) 21.15
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 21.16
20 lezgin (behar) 21.54
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.3% pashtun (harappa) + 36.7% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 2.75
2 59.4% azeri (harappa) + 40.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.86
3 62.2% pashtun (harappa) + 37.8% assyrian (harappa) @ 2.93
4 67.8% kurd (yunusbayev) + 32.2% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.97
5 77.2% iranian (harappa) + 22.8% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.98
6 76.2% iranian (harappa) + 23.8% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.04
7 63.8% pashtun (harappa) + 36.2% georgia-jew (behar) @ 3.06
8 74.8% iranian (harappa) + 25.2% nepalese-a (xing) @ 3.09
9 78% iranian (harappa) + 22% vaish (reich) @ 3.2
10 77% iranian (harappa) + 23% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.22
11 53.9% pathan (hgdp) + 46.1% georgia-jew (behar) @ 3.31
12 72% kurd (harappa) + 28% nepalese-a (xing) @ 3.35
13 57.1% pashtun (harappa) + 42.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 3.37
14 64.7% azeri (harappa) + 35.3% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.4
15 72.4% iranian (harappa) + 27.6% up-muslim (harappa) @ 3.42
16 69% iranian (harappa) + 31% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.45
17 64.5% pashtun (harappa) + 35.5% armenian (behar) @ 3.45
18 78.4% iranian (harappa) + 21.6% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 3.45
19 69.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 30.5% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.47
20 57.6% azeri (harappa) + 42.4% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.47
Shiraz iranian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.71
2 Baloch 24.72
3 S-Indian 11.51
4 SW-Asian 11.45
5 NE-Euro 6.92
6 Mediterranean 5.79
7 Siberian 1.22
8 NE-Asian 1.14
9 E-African 0.9
10 Beringian 0.72
11 SE-Asian 0.67
12 W-African 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 9.31
2 iranian (harappa) 9.34
3 kurd (harappa) 10.11
4 turkmen (yunusbayev) 12.44
5 turkish (harappa) 13.23
6 kurd (yunusbayev) 13.36
7 kurd (xing) 13.61
8 azeri (harappa) 13.68
9 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.4
10 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 15.85
11 armenian (harappa) 15.99
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 17.03
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 17.08
14 turk (behar) 17.32
15 romanian-b (behar) 19.19
16 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 19.44
17 stalskoe (xing) 19.6
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 19.71
19 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 19.74
20 pashtun (harappa) 19.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.1% georgia-jew (behar) + 40.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.03
2 62.9% georgia-jew (behar) + 37.1% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.07
3 70.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 29.6% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.21
4 53.4% lebanese-druze (haber) + 46.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.22
5 53% pathan (hgdp) + 47% druze (hgdp) @ 2.35
6 64.5% assyrian (harappa) + 35.5% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.38
7 59.4% georgia-jew (behar) + 40.6% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.46
8 63.2% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 36.8% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.55
9 71.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 28.3% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.57
10 51% druze (hgdp) + 49% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.62
11 59.7% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 40.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.63
12 65% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 35% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.66
13 72.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 27.3% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.72
14 61% assyrian (harappa) + 39% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.72
15 52.7% pashtun (harappa) + 47.3% georgia-jew (behar) @ 2.72
16 67.6% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 32.4% up-muslim (harappa) @ 2.73
17 64.9% armenian (harappa) + 35.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.78
18 82.8% kurd (harappa) + 17.2% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 2.8
19 52.1% lebanese-christian (haber) + 47.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.81
20 84.2% kurd (harappa) + 15.8% tharu (reich) @ 2.81
Assumingly mazandarani iranian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.99
2 Baloch 29.52
3 SW-Asian 12.66
4 S-Indian 8.94
5 Mediterranean 3.42
6 NE-Euro 1.8
7 Siberian 1.73
8 Papuan 0.68
9 American 0.57
10 W-African 0.43
11 Pygmy 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 6.31
2 iranian (harappa) 6.77
3 kurd (harappa) 7.71
4 kurd (xing) 9.14
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.64
6 azeri (harappa) 13.7
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 13.71
8 turkish (harappa) 13.92
9 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.88
10 armenian (harappa) 15.02
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 16.46
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 16.59
13 assyrian (harappa) 17.37
14 iranian-jew (behar) 17.79
15 turk (behar) 18.42
16 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 18.54
17 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 18.94
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 19.18
19 iraq-jew (behar) 19.35
20 georgia-jew (behar) 19.85
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.6% kurd (xing) + 13.4% velama (metspalu) @ 3.1
2 87.8% kurd (xing) + 12.2% vysya (reich) @ 3.17
3 86.9% kurd (xing) + 13.1% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 3.19
4 87.2% kurd (xing) + 12.8% kurumba (metspalu) @ 3.19
5 86.2% kurd (xing) + 13.8% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 3.2
6 87% kurd (xing) + 13% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 3.2
7 87.5% kurd (xing) + 12.5% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 3.22
8 87.5% kurd (xing) + 12.5% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) @ 3.25
9 87.1% kurd (xing) + 12.9% tamil-nadar (harappa) @ 3.26
10 85.8% kurd (xing) + 14.2% tamil (harappa) @ 3.27
11 86.3% kurd (xing) + 13.7% karnataka (harappa) @ 3.28
12 87.4% kurd (xing) + 12.6% naidu (reich) @ 3.31
13 86.8% kurd (xing) + 13.2% sinhalese (harappa) @ 3.34
14 84.9% kurd (xing) + 15.1% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 3.34
15 87% kurd (xing) + 13% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 3.38
16 85.5% kurd (xing) + 14.5% ap-hyderabad (harappa) @ 3.39
17 88.1% kurd (xing) + 11.9% kamsali (reich) @ 3.39
18 86.2% kurd (xing) + 13.8% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 3.39
19 88.3% kurd (xing) + 11.7% sakilli (chaubey) @ 3.4
20 86.7% kurd (xing) + 13.3% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 3.42
Assumingly iranian arabs(due to having arabic usernames):
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 31.59
2 Baloch 30.38
3 SW-Asian 17.04
4 S-Indian 10.32
5 NE-Euro 4.48
6 W-African 3.67
7 Beringian 1.1
8 Pygmy 0.75
9 Siberian 0.42
10 San 0.22
11 E-African 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 10.74
2 iranian (harappa) 13.44
3 kurd (harappa) 14.1
4 kurd (xing) 15.75
5 iraqi-arab (harappa) 16.62
6 turkmen (yunusbayev) 16.86
7 kurd (yunusbayev) 16.89
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 19.35
9 pashtun (harappa) 19.71
10 turkish (harappa) 20.05
11 azeri (harappa) 20.34
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 21.6
13 armenian (harappa) 21.62
14 tajik (yunusbayev) 22.28
15 palestinian (harappa) 22.44
16 iranian-jew (behar) 23.26
17 syrian (behar) 23.79
18 assyrian (harappa) 24.2
19 iraq-jew (behar) 24.23
20 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 24.47
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 43.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 6.57
2 84.1% iranian (behar) + 15.9% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 6.61
3 85.8% iranian (behar) + 14.2% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 6.67
4 84% iranian (behar) + 16% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) @ 6.67
5 76% iranian (behar) + 24% sindhi (harappa) @ 6.68
6 83.5% iranian (behar) + 16.5% meghawal (reich) @ 6.69
7 85.4% iranian (behar) + 14.6% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 6.72
8 79.1% iranian (behar) + 20.9% punjabi (harappa) @ 6.73
9 59% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 41% bhatia (harappa) @ 6.73
10 83.5% iranian (behar) + 16.5% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 6.73
11 83.9% iranian (behar) + 16.1% gujarati (harappa) @ 6.74
12 83.7% iranian (behar) + 16.3% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 6.75
13 84.1% iranian (behar) + 15.9% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 6.76
14 83.8% iranian (behar) + 16.2% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 6.76
15 77.5% iranian (behar) + 22.5% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 6.77
16 83.8% iranian (behar) + 16.2% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 6.77
17 84.4% iranian (behar) + 15.6% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 6.77
18 84.7% iranian (behar) + 15.3% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) @ 6.79
19 86.3% iranian (behar) + 13.7% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 6.79
20 78% iranian (behar) + 22% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 6.79
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.93
2 Baloch 26.27
3 SW-Asian 17.18
4 S-Indian 9.61
5 NE-Euro 4.48
6 Mediterranean 4.43
7 E-African 1.3
8 American 0.96
9 Beringian 0.78
10 W-African 0.57
11 Pygmy 0.5
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 7.3
2 kurd (harappa) 9.86
3 iranian (harappa) 10.16
4 iraqi-arab (harappa) 11.24
5 kurd (xing) 12.65
6 kurd (yunusbayev) 13.36
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 14.48
8 turkish (harappa) 15.04
9 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.9
10 azeri (harappa) 16.17
11 armenian (harappa) 16.31
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 17.09
13 palestinian (harappa) 17.21
14 syrian (behar) 18.61
15 iranian-jew (behar) 18.78
16 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 19.41
17 iraq-jew (behar) 19.44
18 assyrian (harappa) 19.64
19 turk (behar) 19.79
20 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 20.02
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 33.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.68
2 61.3% iraq-jew (behar) + 38.7% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.99
3 73% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 27% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.03
4 63.7% iraq-jew (behar) + 36.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.05
5 70.2% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 29.8% nepalese-a (xing) @ 3.07
6 63.6% iraq-jew (behar) + 36.4% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.16
7 64.4% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 35.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.19
8 67.3% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 32.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.21
9 65% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 35% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.24
10 64.6% iranian-jew (behar) + 35.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.26
11 60.4% iraq-jew (behar) + 39.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.3
12 68.9% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 31.1% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 3.32
13 75.7% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 24.3% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.35
14 73.1% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 26.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.39
15 61.9% iraq-jew (behar) + 38.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.4
16 67.5% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 32.5% punjabi (harappa) @ 3.42
17 68.7% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 31.3% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.43
18 66.2% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 33.8% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 3.44
19 69.5% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 30.5% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 3.56
20 56.7% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 43.3% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.57
Tehran iranian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.92
2 Baloch 26.65
3 NE-Euro 10.66
4 SW-Asian 9.55
5 S-Indian 8.56
6 Mediterranean 5.28
7 Siberian 1.24
8 Beringian 0.93
9 W-African 0.9
10 E-African 0.61
11 NE-Asian 0.59
12 Papuan 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 8.64
2 iranian (behar) 9.61
3 kurd (harappa) 10.1
4 turkmen (yunusbayev) 11.05
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 12.62
6 kurd (xing) 12.83
7 azeri (harappa) 13.11
8 turkish (harappa) 13.34
9 stalskoe (xing) 15.45
10 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 16.31
11 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 16.69
12 iraqi-arab (harappa) 16.73
13 kumyk (yunusbayev) 16.81
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 16.89
15 turk (behar) 16.92
16 armenian (harappa) 16.97
17 tajik (yunusbayev) 17.54
18 lezgin (behar) 18.15
19 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 18.64
20 urkarah (xing) 18.96
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77% kurd (harappa) + 23% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.76
2 71.4% azeri (harappa) + 28.6% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.79
3 67.6% turkish (harappa) + 32.4% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.8
4 68% azeri (harappa) + 32% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.82
5 71.6% azeri (harappa) + 28.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.86
6 65.5% turk (behar) + 34.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.88
7 71.5% azeri (harappa) + 28.5% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.91
8 80.3% iranian (harappa) + 19.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.91
9 61.8% turk (behar) + 38.2% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.92
10 71.1% turkish (harappa) + 28.9% bhatia (harappa) @ 4
11 60.3% azeri (harappa) + 39.7% pashtun (harappa) @ 4
12 59.6% assyrian (harappa) + 40.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 4.01
13 65.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 34.1% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 4.05
14 67.3% turkish (harappa) + 32.7% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.06
15 61.9% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 38.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.07
16 65.6% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 34.4% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.08
17 69.8% azeri (harappa) + 30.2% sindhi (harappa) @ 4.15
18 58.2% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 41.8% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 4.16
19 59.9% turkish (harappa) + 40.1% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.17
20 61.4% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 38.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.19
Might be bahrain arab due to reasons:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.61
2 Baloch 28.77
3 SW-Asian 13.47
4 S-Indian 8.09
5 NE-Euro 5.33
6 Mediterranean 3.47
7 Siberian 0.98
8 E-African 0.96
9 SE-Asian 0.64
10 Papuan 0.56
11 Beringian 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 4.96
2 iranian (harappa) 6
3 kurd (harappa) 6.98
4 kurd (xing) 9.05
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.62
6 turkish (harappa) 13.31
7 azeri (harappa) 13.34
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 13.55
9 iraqi-arab (harappa) 13.81
10 turkmen (yunusbayev) 14.58
11 armenian (harappa) 15.15
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 16.99
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 17.85
14 turk (behar) 17.85
15 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 18.19
16 assyrian (harappa) 18.22
17 iranian-jew (behar) 18.41
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 19.43
19 palestinian (harappa) 19.5
20 iraq-jew (behar) 19.72
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.9% iranian-jew (behar) + 39.1% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.01
2 84.7% kurd (xing) + 15.3% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.07
3 85.3% kurd (xing) + 14.7% srivastava (reich) @ 2.11
4 84.4% kurd (xing) + 15.6% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 2.12
5 85.4% kurd (xing) + 14.6% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 2.12
6 84.9% kurd (xing) + 15.1% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 2.12
7 84.2% kurd (xing) + 15.8% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.12
8 85.9% kurd (xing) + 14.1% dharkar (metspalu) @ 2.13
9 85.1% kurd (xing) + 14.9% bihari (harappa) @ 2.13
10 84.9% kurd (xing) + 15.1% up (harappa) @ 2.13
11 84.2% kurd (xing) + 15.8% meghawal (reich) @ 2.14
12 86.2% kurd (xing) + 13.8% kanjar (metspalu) @ 2.14
13 85.2% kurd (xing) + 14.8% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) @ 2.15
14 85.4% kurd (xing) + 14.6% tamil (harappa) @ 2.15
15 84.6% kurd (xing) + 15.4% rajasthani (harappa) @ 2.16
16 84.2% kurd (xing) + 15.8% maharashtrian (harappa) @ 2.17
17 82.5% kurd (xing) + 17.5% cochin-jew (behar) @ 2.17
18 85.8% kurd (xing) + 14.2% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 2.19
19 83.5% kurd (xing) + 16.5% bihari-muslim (harappa) @ 2.2
20 87% kurd (xing) + 13% naidu (reich) @ 2.2
Pamirirs are a population isolate rather than a real ethnicity. Their contribution to civilization is like zero. They are interesting as far as genetics is concerned but for some reason, many groups that have been inconsequential historically from these regions get a lot of interest on these boards.
Well, my personal interest is mainly for Steppe-related populations as well as groups from the former Soviet Union and stuff like that. But not limited to them of course.
Negah
03-08-2020, 07:17 PM
Assumingly golestan iranian(due to having "golestani" in username):
NO, Not true. Golestani does mean from Golestan province at all. No correlation
Nomansman
03-08-2020, 07:19 PM
NO, Not true. Golestani does mean from Golestan province at all. No correlation
Ok. Might be from mashdad iran or somewhere else then
Ok. Might be from mashdad iran or somewhere else then
Some of these results are off. And definetly mixed.
Nomansman
03-08-2020, 07:27 PM
Some of these results are off. And definetly mixed.
WHich ones?
Negah
03-08-2020, 07:28 PM
Some of these results are off. And definetly mixed.
Yes, urbanized Iran is mixed which is now 75% of Iran. Ethnicity is NOT a basis of marriage in Iran.
Negah
03-08-2020, 07:30 PM
Ok. Might be from mashdad iran or somewhere else then
Seems mixed ethnicity
Nomansman
03-08-2020, 07:31 PM
Yes, urbanized Iran is mixed which is now 75% of Iran. Ethnicity is NOT a basis of marriage in Iran.
What would they be mixed with?
WHich ones?
You're sure the Shiraz one isn't originally from Afghanistan for example?
Nomansman
03-08-2020, 07:34 PM
You're sure the Shiraz one isn't originally from Afghanistan for example?
The shiraz sample is originally from a study set and also this person seems too iranian to be from AFG. Honestly, apart from the SI and caucasian, the person doesnt seem different in the other components compared to most other iranians
Yes, urbanized Iran is mixed which is now 75% of Iran. Ethnicity is NOT a basis of marriage in Iran.
Do Shi'ites and Sunnis intermarry in Iran? Are there conversions from Sunnism to Shi'ism?
Babak
03-08-2020, 07:36 PM
Yes, urbanized Iran is mixed which is now 75% of Iran. Ethnicity is NOT a basis of marriage in Iran.
Yea, iranians marry each other if Persian is spoken, which is majority of the country.
The shiraz sample is originally from a study set and also this person seems too iranian to be from AFG. Honestly, apart from the SI and caucasian, the person doesnt seem different in the other components compared to most other iranians
He/She gets modelled as half Iranian half Pashtun on my Vahaduo runs. 30.17 Caucasian is not possible for ethnic Persian I think.
Nomansman
03-08-2020, 07:41 PM
He/She gets modelled as half Iranian half Pashtun on my Vahaduo runs. 30.17 Caucasian is not possible for ethnic Persian I think.
Are we talking about the golestani named sample or shiraz one?
THe shiraz one gets like 35% caucasian and thats actually not really much lower compared to many iranians with half as much SI(many get 36-38%) and even higher than other iranians with far lower SI(ones would be from mashdad iran).
The one named golestani might be mixed though.
Are we talking about the golestani named sample or shiraz one?
THe shiraz one gets like 35% caucasian and thats actually not really much lower compared to many iranians with half as much SI(many get 36-38%) and even higher than other iranians with far lower SI(ones would be from mashdad iran).
The one named golestani might be mixed though.
The one you send me in PM.
Nomansman
03-08-2020, 07:43 PM
The one you send me in PM.
Yeah, i agree.
But im not sure though.
Negah
03-08-2020, 07:48 PM
Do Shi'ites and Sunnis intermarry in Iran? Are there conversions from Sunnism to Shi'ism?
Religious lines are seldom breached in Iran especially since the Iranian revolution but even before it. Religion does matter.
I was shocked to see so many Armenians being married to non-Armenians when I came to California whereas in Iran I rarely saw any Christian (Assyrian, and Armenian) marry outside their groups only among each other.
Sunni and Shia are also not easy.
The Sunni Iranians are from isolated regions. Kurds from Kurdistan Province ( Kermanshahi are mainly Shias), Balochis, some coastal Persians and Arabs, and Turkmens.
With urbanized Turkmens, many have become Shias and Persianized. But religious affiliation does matter a lot more than ethnicity.
Religious lines are seldom breached in Iran especially since the Iranian revolution but even before it. Religion does matter.
I was shocked to see so many Armenians being married to non-Armenians when I came to California whereas in Iran I rarely saw any Christian (Assyrian, and Armenian) marry outside their groups only among each other.
Sunni and Shia are also not easy.
The Sunni Iranians are from isolated regions. Kurds from Kurdistan Province ( Kermanshahi are mainly Shias), Balochis, some coastal Persians and Arabs, and Turkmens.
With urbanized Turkmens, many have become Shias and Persianized. But religious affiliation does matter a lot more than ethnicity.
I agree wrt Sunni Shia and especially in my parents time, but now depending on the family off course it's less strict. With my family they don't care much as long as there's no language barrier and they are muslim. As Kurds we see other Iranians as our cousins so it's an even easier transition and if I wasn't married my parents wouldn't care too much if I married any ethnicity within Iran or Afghanistan or Pakistan for that matter.
I assume there is quite a bit of non Kurd to Kurd marriages within Iran especially in Shia Kurd areas such as Kermanshah or Khorasan but probably also Sunni Kurds too. Would that be a fair statement?
Negah
03-08-2020, 11:10 PM
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Nomansman
03-10-2020, 01:53 PM
Already posted it here before, but not on this thread.
Harappaworld spreadsheet with iranian and iraqi(+ other middleeastern samples) samples: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QD3RK8o-e-6qIRAX-1goZldguUysD72bnKPMf5s2qxA/edit?usp=sharing
Already posted it here before, but not on this thread.
Harappaworld spreadsheet with iranian and iraqi(+ other middleeastern samples) samples: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QD3RK8o-e-6qIRAX-1goZldguUysD72bnKPMf5s2qxA/edit?usp=sharing
A lot of these names are clearly not Iranian
Nomansman
03-10-2020, 01:59 PM
A lot of these names are clearly not Iranian
What would theyy be then? Could you point out which names arent iranian(apart from the ones with the arab sounding names)?
What would theyy be then? Could you point out which names arent iranian(apart from the ones with the arab sounding names)?
1. I would suggest to remove the names in the sheet when you post these on here. (I dont know if they would be ok with this)
2. Only include the region when you are sure of it. (And if they confirmed it). You can put one "confirmed region" and another for "my guess". So that there are no misconceptions.
3. A lot of these names are Iraqi or arab. I was also suprised to find out how much Indian they scored when I looked up Southern Iraqi results.
Nomansman
03-10-2020, 02:07 PM
1. I would suggest to remove the names in the sheet when you post these on here. (I dont know if they would be ok with this)
2. Only include the region when you are sure of it. (And if they confirmed it)
3. A lot of these names are Iraqi or arab. I was also suprised to find out how much Indian they scored when I looked up Southern Iraqi results.
Only the ones at the bottom you suspected to be iraqi or the ones between the iranians as well? I do think some of the "iranian" ones probably are arab.
Only the ones at the bottom you suspected to be iraqi or the ones between the iranians as well? I do think some of the "iranian" ones probably are arab.
They were definetly arab and not even from Iran. If they would be from Iran the spelling would have been different. But names like "Al-Yousuf" or anything don't exist in Iran.
Nomansman
03-10-2020, 02:16 PM
They were definetly arab and not even from Iran. If they would be from Iran the spelling would have been different. But names like "Al-Yousuf" or anything don't exist in Iran.
Yeah, i agree. THose with the "al" in their usernames are 100% arab. THough the reason i took some of the arabs for "iranian arabs" is because the fact that many of them get iranian matches on gedmatch rather than iraqi or just other matches.
Yeah, i agree. THose with the "al" in their usernames are 100% arab. THough the reason i took some of the arabs for "iranian arabs" is because the fact that many of them get iranian matches on gedmatch rather than iraqi or just other matches.
You even labelled a good amount of them as "likely Iranian". Also it's not just about the "Al" Iranian names even those of arab tribesmen are written differently in general.
Yes that's the interesting question. Why they score like that. Maybe they are the real descendants of the Elamites and Sumerians. I once did a average out of 20 confirmed southern Iraqi results and they were very Indian shifted. Will post it later when I find them.
Nomansman
03-10-2020, 02:33 PM
You even labelled a good amount of them as "likely Iranian". Also it's not just about the "Al" Iranian names even those of arab tribesmen are written differently in general.
Yes that's the interesting question. Why they score like that. Maybe they are the real descendants of the Elamites and Sumerians. I once did a average out of 20 confirmed southern Iraqi results and they were very Indian shifted. Will post it later when I find them.
But i dont do that for no reason. I label them as "Likely iranian" not necessarily as persian, but from Iran. ANd i do that because i found them under the matches of iranians. And they themselves get some iranian matches(not iraqi either, hence why i didnt add them there....but they might be from arabian area. Another sample placed around the iranian ones with very iranian results, apart from 8% SI, turned out to be from bahrain and seems to be an arab....so its hard to tell. But those types would be originally iranian).
Also, they arent really far from the iranian reference on gedmatch, pretty close to it many times
Anyway, it be nice to see those southern iraqi results when you post them. But i think theyre most likely south asian shifted because gypsie ancestry(if theyre much more south asian shifted than iranians). Gypsies seems to be a thing in Iraq.
But i dont do that for no reason. I label them as "Likely iranian" not necessarily as persian, but from Iran. ANd i do that because i found them under the matches of iranians. And they themselves get some iranian matches(not iraqi either, hence why i didnt add them there....but they might be from arabian area. Another sample placed around the iranian ones with very iranian results, apart from 8% SI, turned out to be from bahrain and seems to be an arab....so its hard to tell. But those types would be originally iranian).
Also, they arent really far from the iranian reference on gedmatch, pretty close to it many times
Anyway, it be nice to see those southern iraqi results when you post them. But i think theyre most likely south asian shifted because gypsie ancestry(if theyre much more south asian shifted than iranians). Gypsies seems to be a thing in Iraq.
That's why I always say only confirmed ancestry results are relevant.
If you want to test for yourself. You should make averages out of confirmed results (n= at least 10) and make Vahaduo models with them. It helped me a lot with categorizing some strange results. For example some results you think of as "Khorasan" could be just Azeri+Persian (typical Tehran result)
But i dont do that for no reason. I label them as "Likely iranian" not necessarily as persian, but from Iran. ANd i do that because i found them under the matches of iranians.
But i think theyre most likely south asian shifted because gypsie ancestry(if theyre much more south asian shifted than iranians). Gypsies seems to be a thing in Iraq.
Wouldn’t make sense because pretty much all the S Iraqi samples I’ve seen score decent S Indian. Can’t be that all S Iraqis are gypsies.
The more sensible explanation is like what kyp pointed out S Iraqis have Elamite ancestry because we knoe that’s where they moved to in addition to further east when they weee attacked ( you know the guys that spoke an extinct dravidian language and had alot of trading relationships with IVC). There could also be additional Indian admixture due to sea trade between persian gulf and India
The whole Eastern part of Iraq has traditionally been part of various persian empires that’s why the genetics in Iraq is different west of Euphrates river
To me S Iraqis even look Indian also
Nomansman
03-10-2020, 02:49 PM
That's why I always say only confirmed ancestry results are relevant.
If you want to test for yourself. You should make averages out of confirmed results (n= at least 10) and make Vahaduo models with them. It helped me a lot with categorizing some strange results. For example some results you think of as "Khorasan" could be just Azeri+Persian (typical Tehran result)
I changed the ones that could be azeris/partly azeris.
But the other ones 100% seems to be from the norht east
Nomansman
03-10-2020, 02:51 PM
Wouldn’t make sense because pretty much all the S Iraqi samples I’ve seen score decent S Indian. Can’t be that all S Iraqis are gypsies.
The more sensible explanation is like what kyp pointed out S Iraqis gave Elamite ancestry ( you know the guys that spoke an extinct dravidian language and had alot of trading relationships with IVC). There could also be additional Indian admixture due to sea trade between persian gulf and India
COuld be indian then.
And the ones i suggest being mixed arent the ones with 5-8% SI, im talking about the ones hitting 9%+ SI(but those would probs also be partly indian....not IVC i assume, because i would imagine that admix from such long time ago to be largely washed away and not have that much of an influence in iraqi admix)
COuld be indian then.
And the ones i suggest being mixed arent the ones with 5-8% SI, im talking about the ones hitting 9%+ SI(but those would probs also be partly indian....not IVC i assume, because i would imagine that admix from such long time ago to be largely washed away and not have that much of an influence in iraqi admix)
You shouldn’t assume that because the Elamite empire lasted till only 2300 years ago and I m guessing many of them fled to S Iraq after that. Admixture easily picks up even 5000 year old ancestry
The other hint is since most of S Iraqis score decent S Indian it must be old and was past down to the present population as they multiplied. A stronger case for new can be made is when only less than 1% of a population has a certain admixture
I changed the ones that could be azeris/partly azeris.
But the other ones 100% seems to be from the norht east
High Baloch is the most important indicator for Notheastern ancestry.
Nomansman
03-10-2020, 03:06 PM
You shouldn’t assume that because the Elamite empire lasted till only 2300 years ago and I m guessing many of them fled to S Iraq after that. Admixture easily picks up even 5000 year old ancestry
The other hint is since most of S Iraqis score decent S Indian it must be old and was past down to the present population as they multiplied. A stronger case for new can be made is when only less than 1% of a population has a certain admixture
Yeah, could be that. But ones with 10-16% SI do seemed to have indian ancestry to me. Ones below 10% might have saved more of that ancient elamite and IVC admix
Yeah, could be that. But ones with 10-16% SI do seemed to have indian ancestry to me. Ones below 10% might have saved more of that ancient elamite and IVC admix
What percentage have 10-16% S Indian?
Nomansman
03-10-2020, 03:16 PM
What percentage have 10-16% S Indian?
I did add two kind of those samples. One getting 10% SI(9,78%) and the other 15,7% SI
I did add two kind of those samples. One getting 10% SI(9,78%) and the other 15,7% SI
I guess the one with 15% likely has some recent ancestry from outside Iraq although I’m wondering if there are pockets like that within S Iraq
Nomansman
03-10-2020, 03:24 PM
I guess the one with 15% likely has some recent ancestry from outside Iraq although I’m wondering if there are pockets like that within S Iraq
I think that one might have indian ancestry.
I even found two samples having indian ancestry from generations back. One was nephew or child of the latter sample and got like 13% SI, while the other even got 23% SI. Another sample with 7% SI(he was only suspecting though) suspected to have some indian ancestry some time ago.
I guess these types will pop up once a while, but are really uncommon
Pamirirs are a population isolate rather than a real ethnicity. Their contribution to civilization is like zero. They are interesting as far as genetics is concerned but for some reason, many groups that have been inconsequential historically from these regions get a lot of interest on these boards.
I would say they are interesting because they are the closest population to ancient peoples like the Sogdians and Bactrians. And of course non-Europeans with a large amount of European-like ancestry unrelated to recent colonialism and migrations would be of interest to many people. Linguistically they are also quite unique. Persian dialects are spoken by 100 million people and Pamiri languages are basically endangered.
Wouldn’t make sense because pretty much all the S Iraqi samples I’ve seen score decent S Indian. Can’t be that all S Iraqis are gypsies.
The more sensible explanation is like what kyp pointed out S Iraqis have Elamite ancestry because we knoe that’s where they moved to in addition to further east when they weee attacked ( you know the guys that spoke an extinct dravidian language and had alot of trading relationships with IVC). There could also be additional Indian admixture due to sea trade between persian gulf and India
The whole Eastern part of Iraq has traditionally been part of various persian empires that’s why the genetics in Iraq is different west of Euphrates river
To me S Iraqis even look Indian also
Do you know anything about these times? Unfortunately there is very little known about the times of the arrival of Iranic tribes into Iran. What happened to all the people like Kassites, Gutians, Elamites etc.. Any indication that they were largely assimilated?. I think the only thing that is known is that the Persians (who derived from the Median tribes) went south and sacked Elam. And Elam language remained important under the Persian rulers, so we can assume that most of them were assimilated. Gutians probably got assimilated by the Medes? Or were they early IAryan off-branches like the Mitanni?
Another thing what interests me. Werent the Aryans/Iranics nomadic/pastoralist people similar in culture to the Gutians who were descibed quite barbaric by Mesopotamian sources? So they basically leeched off the Sumer-Elamite suffistication in forming their empires?
So the Parthians remained the culture while Persians and Medes took over Mesopotamian influenced culture.
Some people remained Nomadic in Persian times and frequently attacked Persian and Median cities. Who were they?
There is way too much unknown about Iranian history unfortunately.
The Iranian history is quite similar to those of Anatolia actually. Just thousands of years earlier.
My fathers updated k13 2way oracle:
[1,] "88.8 % Kurd_Iran + 11.2 % Mari" "3.1059"
[2,] "11.6 % Chuvash + 88.4 % Kurd_Iran" "3.267"
[3,] "85.5 % Kurd_Iran + 14.5 % Turk_Dobruja-Tatar" "3.2847"
[4,] "14.1 % Afghan_Turkmen + 85.9 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "3.2952"
[5,] "75 % Talysh + 25 % Turk_North_West" "3.2957"
[6,] "93.4 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 6.6 % Pathan" "3.3917"
[7,] "86.8 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey + 13.2 % Uzbeki" "3.4213"
[8,] "12.6 % Crimean_Tatar + 87.4 % Talysh" "3.4365"
[9,] "82.9 % Talysh + 17.1 % Turk_Edirne" "3.4467"
[10,] "89.5 % Talysh + 10.5 % Turk_Dobruja-Tatar" "3.4511"
[11,] "78.2 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 21.8 % Iran_Centraleast" "3.4778"
[12,] "93.8 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 6.2 % Kalash" "3.5186"
[13,] "94.5 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 5.5 % Sindhi" "3.5189"
[14,] "70.8 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey + 29.2 % Turkmen" "3.5282"
[15,] "17.1 % Crimean_Tatar + 82.9 % Kurd_Iran" "3.5384"
[16,] "88.1 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 11.9 % Iran_Bandari" "3.5555"
[17,] "94.2 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 5.8 % Burusho" "3.5922"
[18,] "94.8 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 5.2 % Punjabi_Jat" "3.6003"
[19,] "95.9 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 4.1 % Gujarati" "3.6052"
[20,] "88.8 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 11.2 % Parsi_India" "3.6108"
[21,] "82.5 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey + 17.5 % Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.6168"
[22,] "96 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 4 % Kshatriya" "3.637"
[23,] "91.4 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey + 8.6 % Shors" "3.6471"
[24,] "92.7 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 7.3 % Makrani" "3.6479"
[25,] "84.7 % Talysh + 15.3 % Turk_Komotini" "3.6604"
[26,] "85.7 % Talysh + 14.3 % Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer" "3.6649"
[27,] "96.7 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3.3 % Velamas" "3.6657"
[28,] "7.8 % Afghan_Pashtun + 92.2 % Azerbaijani_Turkey" "3.6669"
[29,] "96.6 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3.4 % Kanjar" "3.6701"
[30,] "12.8 % Afghan_Turkmen + 87.2 % Talysh" "3.6892"
[31,] "96.6 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3.4 % Dharkar" "3.6906"
[32,] "96.9 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3.1 % North_Kannadi" "3.6917"
[33,] "94 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 6 % Brahui" "3.6944"
[34,] "87 % Kurd_Iran + 13 % Tatar" "3.7003"
[35,] "69.7 % Talysh + 30.3 % Turk_South" "3.7027"
[36,] "8.2 % Hakas + 91.8 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "3.7068"
[37,] "84.9 % Talysh + 15.1 % Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain" "3.707"
[38,] "96.8 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3.2 % Kurumba" "3.7078"
[39,] "96.1 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3.9 % Brahmin_UP" "3.7101"
[40,] "68.2 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 31.8 % Talysh" "3.7126"
[41,] "94.1 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 5.9 % Balochi" "3.7169"
[42,] "97 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3 % Piramalai" "3.7193"
[43,] "69.8 % Talysh + 30.2 % Turk_Anatolia" "3.7358"
[44,] "96.9 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3.1 % Kol" "3.7402"
[45,] "97 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3 % Dusadh" "3.7463"
[46,] "97.2 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 2.8 % Chamar" "3.7626"
[47,] "96.9 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3.1 % Uttar_Pradesh" "3.7681"
[48,] "11.6 % Hazara + 88.4 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "3.7896"
[49,] "97.3 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 2.7 % Sakilli" "3.7904"
[50,] "96.6 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 3.4 % Bangladeshi" "3.8158"
[51,] "12.8 % Aghan_Hazara + 87.2 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "3.8201"
[52,] "97.2 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 2.8 % Chenchu" "3.8238"
[53,] "87.4 % Talysh + 12.6 % Turk_Kazanlik" "3.8247"
[54,] "85.1 % Talysh + 14.9 % Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi" "3.8314"
[55,] "87.2 % Talysh + 12.8 % Turk_Kardzhali-East" "3.8565"
[56,] "7.8 % Shors + 92.2 % Talysh" "3.8594"
[57,] "6.8 % Ket + 93.2 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "3.8725"
[58,] "9.7 % Karakalpak + 90.3 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "3.8756"
[59,] "90.9 % Talysh + 9.1 % Tatar" "3.8835"
[60,] "91.9 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 8.1 % Yagnobi" "3.8937"
[61,] "6.3 % Ket + 93.7 % Talysh" "3.8938"
[62,] "93.4 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey + 6.6 % Selkup" "3.8974"
[63,] "86.7 % Talysh + 13.3 % Turk_Kardzhali-West" "3.9086"
[64,] "91.2 % Azerbaijani_Iran + 8.8 % Yagnobi" "3.9141"
[65,] "7.5 % Mari + 92.5 % Talysh" "3.9196"
[66,] "8.8 % Kazakh + 91.2 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "3.9244"
[67,] "82.7 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey + 17.3 % Nogay" "3.9245"
[68,] "94.8 % Azerbaijani_Iran + 5.2 % Pathan" "3.9339"
[69,] "84.1 % Talysh + 15.9 % Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "3.9387"
[70,] "6.1 % Selkup + 93.9 % Talysh" "3.9459"
[71,] "17.3 % Afghan_Turkmen + 82.7 % Kurd_Iran" "3.9473"
[72,] "9 % Karakalpak + 91 % Talysh" "3.9631"
[73,] "7.3 % Afghan_Tadjik + 92.7 % Azerbaijani_Turkey" "3.9662"
[74,] "88.9 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey + 11.1 % Uygur" "3.9734"
[75,] "13.9 % Afghan_Turkmen + 86.1 % Zaza" "3.9797"
[76,] "7.4 % Hakas + 92.6 % Talysh" "3.9825"
[77,] "29.5 % Turkmen + 70.5 % Zaza" "3.9867"
[78,] "88.4 % Talysh + 11.6 % Uzbeki" "3.9898"
[79,] "96.7 % Azerbaijani_Iran + 3.3 % Mari" "3.994"
[80,] "7.5 % Altaian + 92.5 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "3.9967"
[81,] "6.7 % Afghan_Pashtun + 93.3 % Azerbaijani_Iran" "3.997"
[82,] "95.7 % Azerbaijani_Iran + 4.3 % Punjabi_Jat" "4.0018"
[83,] "92.1 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey + 7.9 % Mari" "4.0019"
[84,] "17.8 % Afghan_Tadjik + 82.2 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "4.0067"
[85,] "88.3 % Talysh + 11.7 % Turk_Razgrad" "4.0107"
[86,] "95.2 % Azerbaijani_Iran + 4.8 % Kalash" "4.0134"
[87,] "95.4 % Azerbaijani_Iran + 4.6 % Burusho" "4.0241"
[88,] "87.3 % Talysh + 12.7 % Turk_Drama" "4.0254"
[89,] "96.6 % Azerbaijani_Iran + 3.4 % Brahmin_UP" "4.0263"
[90,] "96.8 % Azerbaijani_Iran + 3.2 % Kshatriya" "4.03"
[91,] "96.7 % Azerbaijani_Iran + 3.3 % Gujarati" "4.0314"
[92,] "87.4 % Talysh + 12.6 % Turk_Stara-Zagora" "4.0353"
[93,] "96.7 % Azerbaijani_Iran + 3.3 % Chuvash" "4.0357"
[94,] "8.6 % Kirgiz + 91.4 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "4.0421"
[95,] "82.1 % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 17.9 % Iranian" "4.0454"
[96,] "89.6 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey + 10.4 % Turk_Dobruja-Tatar" "4.0467"
[97,] "12.5 % Crimean_Tatar + 87.5 % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "4.0501"
[98,] "13.6 % Romani + 86.4 % Talysh" "4.0512"
[99,] "10.2 % Romanian_Muntenia + 89.8 % Talysh" "4.0544"
[100,] "13 % Uzbeki + 87 % Zaza" "4.0572"
50/50 mode for the fun of it:
[1,] "50% % Iran_Centraleast + 50% % Turk_Central_Black_Sea" "4.1579"
[2,] "50% % Azerbaijani_Iran + 50% % Azerbaijani_Turkey" "4.2972"
[3,] "50% % Iran_Centraleast + 50% % Turk_Central_East" "4.8391"
[4,] "50% % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 50% % Talysh" "5.0106"
[5,] "50% % Azeri + 50% % Talysh" "5.1274"
[6,] "50% % Azeri + 50% % Azerbaijani_Turkey" "5.2443"
[7,] "50% % Azeri + 50% % Azerbaijani_Iran" "5.2564"
[8,] "50% % Azerbaijani_Iran + 50% % Talysh" "5.5"
[9,] "50% % Iran_Centraleast + 50% % Turkish_mixed" "5.5187"
[10,] "50% % Azerbaijani_Turkey + 50% % Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey" "5.7735"
[11,] "50% % Turk_East_Black_Sea + 50% % Turkmen" "5.7912"
Babak
03-14-2020, 07:14 PM
Do you know anything about these times? Unfortunately there is very little known about the times of the arrival of Iranic tribes into Iran. What happened to all the people like Kassites, Gutians, Elamites etc.. Any indication that they were largely assimilated?. I think the only thing that is known is that the Persians (who derived from the Median tribes) went south and sacked Elam. And Elam language remained important under the Persian rulers, so we can assume that most of them were assimilated. Gutians probably got assimilated by the Medes? Or were they early IAryan off-branches like the Mitanni?
Another thing what interests me. Werent the Aryans/Iranics nomadic/pastoralist people similar in culture to the Gutians who were descibed quite barbaric by Mesopotamian sources? So they basically leeched off the Sumer-Elamite suffistication in forming their empires?
So the Parthians remained the culture while Persians and Medes took over Mesopotamian influenced culture.
Some people remained Nomadic in Persian times and frequently attacked Persian and Median cities. Who were they?
There is way too much unknown about Iranian history unfortunately.
The Iranian history is quite similar to those of Anatolia actually. Just thousands of years earlier.
Yea. Of all the punts that we've seen, all Iranians are related to each other, which prove that pre-iranics (Kassites, elamites, gutians) were all genetically the same who spoke different languages native to that region. Near-easterners weren't all jolly and full of rainbows. They seemed to be very conservative warrior-like people considering the relations they had with their neighbors.
Youtuber Shahrzad (wife of Bahador Alast) results, she is from Khorasan but also has Azeri roots.
Gedrosian: 25.80
Siberian: 3.66
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.56
Atlantic_Med: 6.64
North_European: 7.17
South_Asian 6.34
East_African 0.33
Southwest_Asian: 10.22
East_Asian: 3.68
Caucasian: 34.60
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Shahrzad
4.23733407 Iran_Khorasan
5.74679041 Iran_Central_East
6.06250773 Iranian_Fars
7.59808529 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.33019808 Azerbaijani
8.34991018 Iranian
8.82176286 Lur_Iran
8.92333458 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.03775415 Iranians
9.06607964 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.13684847 Kurd_Sorani
9.35996795 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.51934346 Turkmens
10.02561719 Kurd
10.12529506 Iran_Mazandaran
10.27807375 Turkmen_Iran
10.48508941 Zaza
10.49096278 Turkmen_Iraq
11.11370775 Turk_Southeast
11.56040657 Kurds
12.70037007 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.33140278 Turk_South
13.34892880 Parsi_India
14.04885049 Turk_Central_East
14.61592625 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
Target: Shahrzad
Distance: 1.2795% / 1.27945126 | ADC: 0.25x
61.2 Iran_Khorasan
17.6 Lur_Iran
12.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.2 Iranian
1.0 PANIYA
0.8 Yakut
0.2 Sardinian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNA79RXKKg&t=11s
My father's PuntDNAL K13 (maybe I should make an own thread sometime?):
West_Asia 40.28
NE_Europe 10.11
Americas 0.00
Siberian 5.57
Oceania 0.27
South_Asia 7.73
NE_Asia 1.21
East_Africa 1.23
SE_Asia 1.21
SW_Europe 18.23
SW_Asia 14.15
West_Africa 0.13
South_Africa 0.00
Distance to: Father
7.82205855 Azerbaijan_Azeri
7.95076097 Iranian
8.91485278 Kurdish
9.46966736 Dagestan_Azeri
10.02170644 Ossetian
11.30462737 Turkish_Kayseri
12.02267025 Turkish_Aydin
12.28798600 Abkhasian
12.60534014 Turkish
12.64850189 Balkar
13.15007985 Kumyk
13.89080991 Adygei
16.71689564 Armenian
16.97747331 Assyrian
18.16768009 Tadjik
Target: Father
Distance: 1.3176% / 1.31759250 | ADC: 0.25x
70.0 Iranian
21.2 Turkish_Aydin
4.8 Tadjik
3.0 Nganasan
Turkish samples look off on this one
Dr_Maul
04-12-2020, 05:37 PM
Here is my dodecad K12b although I am slightly semitic influenced
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.41
2 Gedrosia 27.49
3 Southwest_Asian 13.75
4 Atlantic_Med 8.12
5 South_Asian 5.04
6 North_European 4.5
7 Northwest_African 3.36
8 Siberian 1.68
9 East_African 0.64
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 4.75
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.48
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.85
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.48
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.71
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.89
7 Turks (Behar) 16.75
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.15
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 18.39
10 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.78
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.08
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.22
13 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.25
14 Lebanese (Behar) 19.76
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.8
16 Syrians (Behar) 21.13
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 21.58
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.95
19 Jordanians (Behar) 22.93
20 Druze (HGDP) 23.93
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% Iranians (Behar) + 12.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.49
2 93.2% Iranians (Behar) + 6.8% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 2.56
3 92.2% Iranians (Behar) + 7.8% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 2.62
4 87.5% Iranians (Behar) + 12.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.79
5 92.9% Iranians (Behar) + 7.1% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 2.83
6 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Moroccans (Behar) @ 2.86
7 88.8% Iranians (Behar) + 11.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.88
8 89% Iranians (Behar) + 11% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.92
9 88.6% Iranians (Behar) + 11.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.92
10 89% Iranians (Behar) + 11% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.02
11 90.7% Iranians (Behar) + 9.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.07
12 93.4% Iranians (Behar) + 6.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 3.08
13 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 3.12
14 93.8% Iranians (Behar) + 6.2% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 3.15
15 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 3.16
16 93.5% Iranians (Behar) + 6.5% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 3.18
17 91.8% Iranians (Behar) + 8.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.21
18 93.7% Iranians (Behar) + 6.3% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3.22
19 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 3.22
20 91.6% Iranians (Behar) + 8.4% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 3.24
Here is my dodecad K12b although I am slightly semitic influenced
Can you post PuntDNAL 13 too?
Dr_Maul
04-12-2020, 05:43 PM
Can you post PuntDNAL 13 too?
Here it is, seems like it has activated my Turkic genes :D
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 46.08
2 SW_Europe 18.9
3 SW_Asia 15.36
4 South_Asia 7.08
5 NE_Europe 6.12
6 Siberia 3.39
7 West_Africa 1.94
8 South_Africa 0.72
9 Oceania 0.39
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 4.57
2 Kurdish 5.42
3 Azerbaijan_Azeri 8.15
4 Abkhasian 9.96
5 Dagestan_Azeri 10.83
6 Ossetian 11.71
7 Armenian 12.46
8 Assyrian 12.74
9 Turkish_Kayseri 13.15
10 Turkish_Trabzon 14.87
11 Adygei 15.09
12 Turkish 15.32
13 Balkar 16.06
14 Turkish_Aydin 16.59
15 Lebanese_Muslim 16.6
16 Lebanese_Druze 16.9
17 Syrian 17.34
18 Kumyk 17.46
19 Lebanese_Christian 19.16
20 Chechen 19.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.5% Iranian + 2.5% Nganasan @ 3.81
2 97.2% Iranian + 2.8% Yakut @ 3.9
3 97.4% Iranian + 2.6% Koryak @ 3.99
4 97.4% Iranian + 2.6% Chukchi @ 3.99
5 97.3% Iranian + 2.7% Dolgan @ 4.03
6 88.2% Iranian + 11.8% Turkish_Trabzon @ 4.16
7 97.7% Iranian + 2.3% Eskimo @ 4.16
8 97.4% Iranian + 2.6% Tuvinian @ 4.19
9 97.9% Iranian + 2.1% Oroqen @ 4.26
10 88.1% Iranian + 11.9% Assyrian @ 4.27
11 97.6% Iranian + 2.4% Mongolian @ 4.28
12 81.1% Iranian + 18.9% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 4.28
13 88% Iranian + 12% Armenian @ 4.28
14 97.5% Iranian + 2.5% Altaian @ 4.29
15 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Yoruba @ 4.34
16 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Esan @ 4.34
17 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Mende @ 4.34
18 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Igbo @ 4.35
19 98.5% Iranian + 1.5% Bantu_SW @ 4.35
20 98.6% Iranian + 1.4% Hausa @ 4.35
Oghuz
04-12-2020, 05:48 PM
Here it is, seems like it has activated my Turkic genes :D
ahle kodam shahr hasti ?
Dr_Maul
04-12-2020, 05:54 PM
ahle kodam shahr hasti ?
Kermanshah (pedaram) + Borazjan (madaram)
Babak
04-12-2020, 05:57 PM
Kermanshah (pedaram) + Borazjan (madaram)
Your bushehr side puts you a tad closer to semites but thats expected bro.
Dr_Maul
04-12-2020, 06:02 PM
Your bushehr side puts you a tad closer to semites but thats expected bro.
Yeah I wasn't surprised by it, although on 23andMe I get more matches in Fars rather than Bushehr
SharpFork
04-13-2020, 07:13 AM
Another thing what interests me. Werent the Aryans/Iranics nomadic/pastoralist people similar in culture to the Gutians who were descibed quite barbaric by Mesopotamian sources? So they basically leeched off the Sumer-Elamite suffistication in forming their empires?
Virtually everyone does that, no human pre-urban and pre-state society wakes up one day even having the concept of creating large impersonal institutions, writing, cities etc.
Civilization in the West(from Iceland to Afghanistan, maybe even India) was in a way or another connected to either Egypt or Mesopotamia and for early Egypt there is even indication of presence of Mesopotamian migrants in the early period, so maybe all traces back to just 5th and 4th millenium BCE Mesopotamia.
Some people remained Nomadic in Persian times and frequently attacked Persian and Median cities. Who were they?
Scythians/Sakas?
Demhat
04-13-2020, 11:24 PM
Do you know anything about these times? Unfortunately there is very little known about the times of the arrival of Iranic tribes into Iran. What happened to all the people like Kassites, Gutians, Elamites etc.. Any indication that they were largely assimilated?. I think the only thing that is known is that the Persians (who derived from the Median tribes) went south and sacked Elam. And Elam language remained important under the Persian rulers, so we can assume that most of them were assimilated. Gutians probably got assimilated by the Medes? Or were they early IAryan off-branches like the Mitanni?
Another thing what interests me. Werent the Aryans/Iranics nomadic/pastoralist people similar in culture to the Gutians who were descibed quite barbaric by Mesopotamian sources? So they basically leeched off the Sumer-Elamite suffistication in forming their empires?
So the Parthians remained the culture while Persians and Medes took over Mesopotamian influenced culture.
Some people remained Nomadic in Persian times and frequently attacked Persian and Median cities. Who were they?
There is way too much unknown about Iranian history unfortunately.
The Iranian history is quite similar to those of Anatolia actually. Just thousands of years earlier.
Yes the Gutians/Mitanni/Kassites, Mannaeans were absorbed by Medes. Cyrus literally equates Western Media with Gutium and Heredotus doesn't even make a differentiation between the Mitanni and Medes.
Yes the Persians absorbed the Elamites and even went as far as taking Elamites costumes and absorbed Elamite elements into their language too.
The South Indian in South Iraq having Elamite origin is absolute bollocks and the believe that they came from South Asia is also very outdated. If that was the case you would find even higher levels of South Indian in Persians of Fars. but they don't have higher levels to other Persians or these Iraqi samples.
If anything the proto Elamites must had been very Iranian Neolithic.
South Iraq has been known as a hotspot for exotic ancestry in modern times. They did have some people from Africa and India settle there as Sailors due to trade. Also there are quite a number of Iraqis and Kuwaitis with Baluchi origin settled in Central and South Iraq due to religious reasons. So it is no suprise to find Iraqis with higher Indian DNA. They are not necessary Gypsies either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Iraqis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzaffar_Al-Nawab
Mais Gomar for example has partially South Asian origin.
Demhat
04-13-2020, 11:37 PM
Kermanshah (pedaram) + Borazjan (madaram)
Are you half Kurd half Persian or is your father one of the rarer cases of Persians in Kermanshah.
@Demhat, hey. Do you have your Dodecad K12b and HarappaWorld components?
Babak
04-13-2020, 11:53 PM
Yes the Gutians/Mitanni/Kassites, Mannaeans were absorbed by Medes. Cyrus literally equates Western Media with Gutium and Heredotus doesn't even make a differentiation between the Mitanni and Medes.
Yes the Persians absorbed the Elamites and even went as far as taking Elamites costumes and absorbed Elamite elements into their language too.
The South Indian in South Iraq having Elamite origin is absolute bollocks and the believe that they came from South Asia is also very outdated. If that was the case you would find even higher levels of South Indian in Persians of Fars. but they don't have higher levels to other Persians or these Iraqi samples.
If anything the proto Elamites must had been very Iranian Neolithic.
South Iraq has been known as a hotspot for exotic ancestry in modern times. They did have some people from Africa and India settle there as Sailors due to trade. Also there are quite a number of Iraqis and Kuwaitis with Baluchi origin settled in Central and South Iraq due to religious reasons. So it is no suprise to find Iraqis with higher Indian DNA. They are not necessary Gypsies either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Iraqis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzaffar_Al-Nawab
Mais Gomar for example has partially South Asian origin.
Welcome back bro
Dr_Maul
04-13-2020, 11:55 PM
Are you half Kurd half Persian or is your father one of the rarer cases of Persians in Kermanshah.
No my Dad is an ethnic Persian but I assume his roots are from Isfahan because that is where I get a really strong match on 23andMe
Demhat
04-14-2020, 12:00 AM
Welcome back bro
Thanks I am not going to stay for long though. Just had some questions in my head and was bordered. I am not interested in taxonomy that much anymore. History, Culture and Genetics are more interesting.
Demhat
04-14-2020, 12:01 AM
@Demhat, hey. Do you have your Dodecad K12b and HarappaWorld components?
I did but I haven't checked them long time ago. And don't actually know how they look anymore. But they were very similar to other Kurds.
Demhat
04-14-2020, 12:02 AM
Guys please check my recent thread.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320152-A-question-to-the-Iranians
South Iraq has been known as a hotspot for exotic ancestry in modern times. They did have some people from Africa and India settle there as Sailors due to trade. Also there are quite a number of Iraqis and Kuwaitis with Baluchi origin settled in Central and South Iraq due to religious reasons. So it is no suprise to find Iraqis with higher Indian DNA. They are not necessary Gypsies either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Iraqis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzaffar_Al-Nawab
Mais Gomar for example has partially South Asian origin.
Plausible explanation for widespread S. Indian ancestry in S. Iraq if it's older. Port cities such as Basra have traded with India since Sindbad's time. We also have the very extensive trading between IVC and Iraq.
Afro-Iraqis have integrated very extensively in some areas. I remember when I was a kid one of my cousins who we used to visit in Baghdad had an Afro-Iraqi landscaper.
I noticed you indicate Upper Mesopotamian in your profile. What city in Kurdistan are you from?
Demhat
04-14-2020, 12:09 AM
Plausible explanation for widespread S. Indian ancestry in S. Iraq if it's older. Port cities such as Basra have traded with India since Sindbad's time. We also have the very extensive trading between IVC and Iraq.
Afro-Iraqis have integrated very extensively in some areas. I remember when I was a kid one of my cousins who we used to visit in Baghdad had an Afro-Iraqi landscaper.
I noticed you indicate Upper Mesopotamian in your profile. What city in Kurdistan are you from?
Sirnak, Mardin.
Sirnak, Mardin.
Ahh ok near Jazira, Turkey. I bet I can understand most of what you speak because your Kurmanji is not much different from ours.
Demhat
04-14-2020, 12:15 AM
Ahh ok near Jazira, Turkey. I bet I can understand most of what you speak because your Kurmanji is not much different from ours.
From Badini you mean? Or Urmiya. Yes these are quite similar. But I am not exactly from Cizira. Closer to Midyat.
From Badini you mean? Or Urmiya. Yes these are quite similar.
Bahdini
I did but I haven't checked them long time ago. And don't actually know how they look anymore. But they were very similar to other Kurds.
If you're still on GEDmatch, please post them. You can also access the calculators with Admixture Studio.
Demhat
04-14-2020, 01:25 AM
If you're still on GEDmatch, please post them. You can also access the calculators with Admixture Studio.
Admixture Studio what's that?
Demhat
04-14-2020, 01:41 AM
If you're still on GEDmatch, please post them. You can also access the calculators with Admixture Studio.
Eurogenes K36
Amerindian 0.40 Pct
Arabian 3.35 Pct
Armenian 10.35 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.34 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 16.04 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 2.33 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.02 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 19.86 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 17.45 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 17.11 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 6.76 Pct
West_Med -
Admixture Studio what's that?
https://dnagenics.com/admixture-studio/
Dr_Maul
04-14-2020, 01:51 AM
Eurogenes K36
Amerindian 0.40 Pct
Arabian 3.35 Pct
Armenian 10.35 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.34 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 16.04 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 2.33 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.02 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 19.86 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 17.45 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 17.11 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 6.76 Pct
West_Med -
Heres mine for comparison
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 5.50 Pct
Armenian 12.37 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.63 Pct
East_Med 13.18 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.34 Pct
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.29 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 17.90 Pct
North_African 0.52 Pct
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 12.54 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 25.96 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.71 Pct
West_Med -
I guess you guys are slightly more Euro shifted, I have a lot more South Central Asian
Eurogenes K36
Amerindian 0.40 Pct
Arabian 3.35 Pct
Armenian 10.35 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.34 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 16.04 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 2.33 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.02 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 19.86 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 17.45 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 17.11 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 6.76 Pct
West_Med -
Certainly not a fan of K36. Dodecad K12b and HarappaWorld are the best for Kurds and Iranians, especially the updated oracles.
Demhat
04-14-2020, 01:57 AM
Heres mine for comparison
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 5.50 Pct
Armenian 12.37 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.63 Pct
East_Med 13.18 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.34 Pct
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.29 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 17.90 Pct
North_African 0.52 Pct
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 12.54 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 25.96 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.71 Pct
West_Med -
I guess you guys are slightly more Euro shifted, I have a lot more South Central Asian
It's literally being more Anatolia_Neolithic shifted while you are more Iranian_Neolithic shifted. And I am being slightly more Euro shifted. Not a big suprise though
Demhat
04-14-2020, 02:16 AM
Certainly not a fan of K36. Dodecad K12b and HarappaWorld are the best for Kurds and Iranians, especially the updated oracles.
Dodecad K12b is very old though and doesn't really take into account ancient structures such as Iranian Neolithic. Same with HarrapaWorld. I am generally not a fan of calculators that use modern populations as refference for components. What does Armenian or South Central Asian actually mean. Though? Armenian is literally Iranian Neolithic/CHG with Anatolian Neolithic. South_Central Asian is basically Iran_Neolithic imo.
But here are my Harrapa World results
Population
S-Indian 1.37 Pct
Baloch 25.86 Pct
Caucasian 42.77 Pct
NE-Euro 6.13 Pct
SE-Asian 0.51 Pct
Siberian 0.13 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American 1.85 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 7.37 Pct
SW-Asian 13.75 Pct
San -
E-African 0.17 Pct
Pygmy 0.14 Pct
W-African 0.04 Pct
Dodecad K12b
Gedrosia 26.34 Pct
Siberian 0.58 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.67 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.66 Pct
North_European 6.11 Pct
South_Asian 1.57 Pct
East_African 0.39 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.47 Pct
East_Asian 0.09 Pct
Caucasus 40.86 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.26 Pct
Dodecad K12b is very old though and doesn't really take into account ancient structures such as Iranian Neolithic. Same with HarrapaWorld. I am generally not a fan of calculators that use modern populations as refference for components. What does Armenian or South Central Asian actually mean. Though? Armenian is literally Iranian Neolithic/CHG with Anatolian Neolithic. South_Central Asian is basically Iran_Neolithic imo.
Nah, they're still useful and can be made sense of.
But here are my Harrapa World results
Population
S-Indian 1.37 Pct
Baloch 25.86 Pct
Caucasian 42.77 Pct
NE-Euro 6.13 Pct
SE-Asian 0.51 Pct
Siberian 0.13 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American 1.85 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 7.37 Pct
SW-Asian 13.75 Pct
San -
E-African 0.17 Pct
Pygmy 0.14 Pct
W-African 0.04 Pct
Distance to: Demhat
3.67951084 kurd
3.74933327 kurd
4.03778405 kurd
5.61879880 iranian
6.46827643 iranian
8.18413710 uzbekistan-jew
8.49138387 turkish
9.55219870 azeri
9.81123336 armenian
12.93327878 turk-kayseri
12.97366949 assyrian
13.01053035 turk
13.01438435 iraqi-mandaean
13.26231503 iraqi-arab
13.81662404 turk-istanbul
14.27165723 iranian-jew
15.01089271 azerbaijan-jew
15.46046571 georgia-jew
15.73132226 iraq-jew
16.55142894 north-ossetian
Target: Demhat
Distance: 2.0817% / 2.08168896 | ADC: 0.5x
97.2 kurd
1.4 ashkenazy-jew
1.4 colombian
Target: Demhat
Distance: 1.2633% / 1.26325112 | ADC: 0.25x
93.2 kurd
3.4 morocco-jew
3.2 colombian
0.2 italian
Dodecad K12b
Gedrosia 26.34 Pct
Siberian 0.58 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.67 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.66 Pct
North_European 6.11 Pct
South_Asian 1.57 Pct
East_African 0.39 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.47 Pct
East_Asian 0.09 Pct
Caucasus 40.86 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.26 Pct
Distance to: Demhat
3.22420533 Zaza
3.24319287 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.45887265 Kurds
4.07845559 Kurd
4.35341245 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.53287988 Kurd_Sorani
4.63850191 Lur_Iran
5.17511353 Iranian
5.69068537 Turkmen_Iraq
6.79525570 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.60524819 Iranians
8.29860229 Azerbaijani
8.42081944 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.50242318 Iranian_Fars
8.84035067 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.88672848 Iran_Mazandaran
10.29994660 Turk_Southeast
10.35815138 Turk_East
11.27882973 Iran_Central_East
11.44012675 Armenian_East
Target: Demhat
Distance: 1.7262% / 1.72624659 | ADC: 1x
49.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
44.6 Kurds
6.0 Zaza
Target: Demhat
Distance: 1.5507% / 1.55074968 | ADC: 0.5x
49.4 Kurds
45.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.2 Zaza
1.2 Lur_Iran
0.4 Sardinian
0.2 Turkmen_Iraq
Target: Demhat
Distance: 0.7699% / 0.76994795 | ADC: 0.25x
61.4 Kurds
11.2 Zaza
8.4 Kurd_Sorani
7.4 Lur_Iran
5.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.2 Turkmen_Iraq
2.2 Sardinian
New found kits:
Iranian Azeri #1:
Gedrosian: 18.47
Siberian: 3.63
Northwest_African: 0.87
Southeast_Asian: 1.92
Atlantic_Med: 7.93
North_European: 8.72
South_Asian 3.02
East_African 0.29
Southwest_Asian: 11.46
East_Asian: 2.86
Caucasian: 40.46
SSA: 0.38
Distance to: Azer_IR
2.88674557 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.94967087 Azerbaijani
4.24509128 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.83551445 Turk_Southeast
5.68727527 Turk_Central_East
6.59331480 Turk_South
6.81266468 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.97355003 Turk_East
7.43526731 Zaza
7.48380919 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.83309007 Turk_Anatolia
8.21269749 Turk_Central_West
8.24012136 Turkmen_Iraq
8.27105193 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.11691285 Kurd_Sorani
10.41511882 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.81427298 Turk_Southwest
10.87364244 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.01446776 Kurd_KAZ
11.27203176 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.32641161 Armenian_East
11.46176688 Iranian
11.66164654 Lur_Iran
11.67767528 Kurds
12.23613092 Yoruk
Target: Azer_iran1
Distance: 1.1080% / 1.10796477 | ADC: 0.25x
88.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.4 Balkars
2.4 Samaritians
1.8 Yemenese
1.0 Cambodians
0.6 BONDA
0.4 Nganassan
Iranian Azeri #2:
Gedrosian: 20.56
Siberian: 1.04
Northwest_African: 2.73
Southeast_Asian: 0.57
Atlantic_Med: 7.31
North_European: 7.84
South_Asian 2.10
East_African 0.16
Southwest_Asian: 12.31
East_Asian: 3.67
Caucasian: 41.70
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Azer_Ir2
4.04051977 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.08368706 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.85381293 Azerbaijani
5.33709659 Zaza
5.84547688 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.11788362 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.51926376 Turk_Southeast
6.65935432 Turk_East
6.77918874 Turkmen_Iraq
7.44951676 Kurd_Sorani
8.02894140 Turk_Central_East
8.59842427 Kurd_KAZ
9.04053649 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.28877279 Kurds
9.48597913 Turk_South
9.67676599 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.76323717 Lur_Iran
9.85166483 Iranian
9.91626946 Armenian_East
10.62929443 Turk_Anatolia
10.79758306 Turk_Central_West
11.37850166 Iranian_Fars
11.45619920 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.33514491 Armenian_West
12.64413303 Turk_Ahiska
Target: Azer_Ir2
Distance: 1.4936% / 1.49357422 | ADC: 0.25x
74.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.6 Turk_Ahiska
8.6 Georgia_Jews
1.2 Mozabite
0.8 Japanese
0.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Farsi:
Gedrosian: 31.71
Siberian: 0.26
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.58
North_European: 8.26
South_Asian 5.41
East_African 0.45
Southwest_Asian: 12.29
East_Asian: 0.32
Caucasian: 32.90
SSA: 0.82
Distance to: Farsi218
5.82692028 Iran_Central_East
6.14244251 Iranian_Fars
6.42395517 Iranians
8.25979419 Iran_Khorasan
8.38963646 Iran_Mazandaran
8.95082119 Iranian
9.25059458 Lur_Iran
10.53381223 Kurd_Sorani
10.99282038 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.37801389 Kurds
11.46799023 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.84618926 Kurd_KAZ
12.40358416 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.66789248 Zaza
12.77862669 Iran_Bandari
12.82048751 Parsi_India
12.89597999 Turkmen_Iraq
13.12090317 Turkmens
13.29721775 Azerbaijani
14.62985304 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.03464665 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.15422053 Turkmen_Iran
15.98666632 Turk_Southeast
18.94442398 Uzbekistan_Jews
19.25350617 Turk_South
Target: Farsi218
Distance: 1.8012% / 1.80117993 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Iranians
13.0 Iran_Central_East
8.6 Yagnobi
4.0 Iran_Bandari
3.2 Argyll
3.0 Iran_Mazandaran
2.4 Balochi
Don't know how dead this post is but here's me and my family's results I guess. Even though I think I've probably already been posted by someone else on this thread lol.
Me (37.5% Bakhtiari 37.5% Qashqai 25% Southern Iranian(Fars,Bushrer, Khuzestan)
Dodecad 12b
1 Caucasus 37.48
2 Gedrosia 28.77
3 Southwest_Asian 13.42
4 North_European 6.02
5 South_Asian 5.07
6 Atlantic_Med 4.88
7 Sub_Saharan 2.24
8 Southeast_Asian 1.05
9 East_Asian 0.67
10 Siberian 0.33
11 East_African 0.07
1 89% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 3.16
1 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Iranian_Dodecad + Makrani_HGDP + Syrians_Behar @ 2.861116
.25X
32.8 Iranian_Fars
31.6 Iran_Mazandaran
20.4 Lur_Iran
9.8 Kurds
3.8 Iranians
1.4 Yoruba
0.2 YRI30
.5X
36.6 Iranian_Fars
23.8 Iranian
17.0 Iran_Mazandaran
14.2 Iranians
7.8 Lur_Iran
0.4 Yoruba
0.2 YRI30
1X
37.8 Iranian_Fars
33.2 Iranian
29.0 Iranians
Mom (3/4 Bakhtiari 1/4 Qashqai)
1 Caucasus 38.13
2 Gedrosia 28.3
3 Southwest_Asian 15
4 Atlantic_Med 5.13
5 South_Asian 4.88
6 North_European 4.86
7 Southeast_Asian 1.86
8 East_African 0.78
9 Sub_Saharan 0.7
10 Siberian 0.35
1 81.3% Iranians (Behar) + 18.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.62
1 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP @ 2.545645
.25X
52.4 Lur_Iran
23.0 Iran_Mazandaran
15.6 Iranians
5.0 Kurd_Sorani
1.6 Saudis
1.2 Cambodians
1.0 Iranian_Fars
0.2 Yemenese
.5X
66.0 Lur_Iran
24.4 Iranian_Fars
6.0 Iranians
3.6 Iran_Mazandaran
1x
81.2 Lur_Iran
15.6 Iranian_Fars
3.2 Iranians
PATERNAL AUNT (1/2 Qashqai 1/2 Southern Iranian)
1 Caucasus 35.65
2 Gedrosia 26.54
3 Southwest_Asian 14.09
4 North_European 8.18
5 South_Asian 6.03
6 Atlantic_Med 4.65
7 Sub_Saharan 2.22
8 Siberian 1.03
9 East_African 1.02
10 Northwest_African 0.59
1 93% Iranians (Behar) + 7% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.07
1 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Lezgins_Behar + Pathan_HGDP + Syrians_Behar @ 2.876162
.25x
63.8 Iranian_Fars
17.4 Iran_Mazandaran
10.4 Kurd_Sorani
3.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.8 Yemenese
1.4 Tabasaran
1.2 Yoruba
1.0 Lithuanian
.5x
89.6 Iranian_Fars
8.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
2.0 Kurd_Sorani
0.4 YRI30
1x
100.0 Iranian_Fars
Does anyone have any confirmed pure Qashqai kits? I have a kit that I match with that is half Qashqai half European (I'm only certain he's Qashqai because his last name is literally Qashqai lol). I also have a few kits that I suspect of being Qashqai by can not be sure.
Does anyone have any confirmed pure Qashqai kits? I have a kit that I match with that is half Qashqai half European (I'm only certain he's Qashqai because his last name is literally Qashqai lol). I also have a few kits that I suspect of being Qashqai by can not be sure.
no unfortunately. Mind sharing the half Qashqai result (dodecadk12b)?
Kerem_turc
05-22-2020, 06:36 AM
My Kit JK4935531
Zaza from Turkey
Dodecad K7b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 50.61
2 Southern 29.81
3 Atlantic_Baltic 10.9
4 South_Asian 6.58
5 Siberian 1.07
6 African 1.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 3.45
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 3.71
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 3.99
4 Iranian (Dodecad) 4.46
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 6.57
6 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 8.02
7 Armenians (Behar) 8.57
8 Armenian (Dodecad) 9.26
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 9.49
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 10.69
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 10.9
12 Turks (Behar) 11.64
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 12.06
14 Georgians (Behar) 12.56
15 Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) 12.71
16 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.66
17 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.56
18 Adygei (HGDP) 17.02
19 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 17.04
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.13
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.6% Iranians (Behar) + 13.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.12
2 81.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.27
3 90.2% Iranians (Behar) + 9.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.28
4 81.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.7% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.29
5 80.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 19.1% Syrians (Behar) @ 1.33
6 85.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 14.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 1.42
7 91.1% Iranians (Behar) + 8.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.42
8 91.2% Iranians (Behar) + 8.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.44
9 91.5% Iranians (Behar) + 8.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.44
10 91.3% Iranians (Behar) + 8.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.45
11 84.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 15.4% Jordanians (Behar) @ 1.45
12 88.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.5% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 1.48
13 91.2% Iranians (Behar) + 8.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.48
14 78.9% Armenian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Pathan (HGDP) @ 1.53
15 79.6% Iranians (Behar) + 20.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 1.57
16 90.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.1% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.58
17 90.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.59
18 95.3% Iranians (Behar) + 4.7% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 1.6
19 87.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 12.8% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.63
20 80.8% Armenian (Dodecad) + 19.2% Burusho (HGDP) @ 1.66
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.63
2 Gedrosia 23.26
3 Southwest_Asian 15.31
4 North_European 7.91
5 Atlantic_Med 4.28
6 South_Asian 3.97
7 East_African 1.15
8 Siberian 1.08
9 Northwest_African 0.42
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 6.13
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.75
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.81
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.15
5 Iranians (Behar) 9.61
6 Turks (Behar) 11.88
7 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 12.54
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 12.98
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.19
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.65
11 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 14.45
12 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.51
13 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 14.95
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 15.57
15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.93
16 Lebanese (Behar) 17.03
17 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.59
18 Armenians (Behar) 18.87
19 Syrians (Behar) 18.94
20 Druze (HGDP) 19.51
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 23.2% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.22
2 87% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 13% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.86
3 78.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 21.3% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.87
4 80.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 19.7% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 3.89
5 52.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 47.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 4.02
6 88.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 11.8% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.07
7 83.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Samaritians (Behar) @ 4.09
8 83.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 16.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.18
9 89.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 10.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 4.21
10 71.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 28.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.23
11 69.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 30.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 4.25
12 78.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.33
13 76.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 23.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 4.45
14 79% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 21% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.53
15 91% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 9% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 4.61
16 76.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 23.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.64
17 83% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 4.67
18 79.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 20.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.71
19 90.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 9.6% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 4.72
20 74.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 25.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 4.78
Docedad K7b is most better for me
no unfortunately. Mind sharing the half Qashqai result (dodecadk12b)?
call me crazy but I looked him up on Facebook and found out his mom was half German half Scottish. His dad comes from a very traditional and prideful Qashqai family. His results very clearly show some kind of Turkic descent as he has pretty large amount of East Asian for someone who is half Western Euro; I think if Azeri was a reference population it would say he is half Azeri. Interestingly my Aunt does not really show much East Asian even though she is also half Qashqai the only thing that stands out from a normal Southern Iranian is a high amount of North Euro/Steppe. But I think it just goes to show that the Qashqai is made of many ethnicities. My Aunt probably comes from the Iranic groups while he comes from the original Turkic groups.
Gedrosia 16.88 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.77 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med 22.56 Pct
North_European 26.59 Pct
South_Asian 1.16 Pct
East_African 0.38 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.27 Pct
East_Asian 1.68 Pct
Caucasus 23.12 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
1 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.88
2 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.89
3 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.9
4 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.9
5 51.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.3% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.08
6 53.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.6% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.11
1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +50% Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 3.226308
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Turks_Behar @ 2.023003
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 1.629055
2 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.734436
3 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.743141
4 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 1.761278
5 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.873659
to further prove how crazy I am I did some calculation in order to remove the European (argyll+german averaged) from his results in order to get an idea of what his dad's results might look like. Obviously, this highly questionable accuracy the curiosity was killing me though.
qashqai,23.56,0,1.54,1.22,8.07,6.48,2.32,.76,12.54 ,3.36,41.09,0
.25x
75.6 Zaza
20.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.4 Chinese
1.0 Georgian_Adjara
0.4 Japanese
0.4 Mozabite
.5x
60.2 Zaza
18.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
18.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
1.2 Chinese
1.0 Turkmen_Iraq
1x
61.0 Zaza
32.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2x
91.0 Zaza
9.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
call me crazy but I looked him up on Facebook and found out his mom was half German half Scottish. His dad comes from a very traditional and prideful Qashqai family. His results very clearly show some kind of Turkic descent as he has pretty large amount of East Asian for someone who is half Western Euro; I think if Azeri was a reference population it would say he is half Azeri. Interestingly my Aunt does not really show much East Asian even though she is also half Qashqai the only thing that stands out from a normal Southern Iranian is a high amount of North Euro/Steppe. But I think it just goes to show that the Qashqai is made of many ethnicities. My Aunt probably comes from the Iranic groups while he comes from the original Turkic groups.
Gedrosia 16.88 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.77 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med 22.56 Pct
North_European 26.59 Pct
South_Asian 1.16 Pct
East_African 0.38 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.27 Pct
East_Asian 1.68 Pct
Caucasus 23.12 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
1 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.88
2 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.89
3 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.9
4 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.9
5 51.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.3% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.08
6 53.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.6% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.11
1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +50% Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 3.226308
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Turks_Behar @ 2.023003
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 1.629055
2 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.734436
3 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.743141
4 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 1.761278
5 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.873659
to further prove how crazy I am I did some calculation in order to remove the European (argyll+german averaged) from his results in order to get an idea of what his dad's results might look like. Obviously, this highly questionable accuracy the curiosity was killing me though.
qashqai,23.56,0,1.54,1.22,8.07,6.48,2.32,.76,12.54 ,3.36,41.09,0
.25x
75.6 Zaza
20.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.4 Chinese
1.0 Georgian_Adjara
0.4 Japanese
0.4 Mozabite
.5x
60.2 Zaza
18.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
18.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
1.2 Chinese
1.0 Turkmen_Iraq
1x
61.0 Zaza
32.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2x
91.0 Zaza
9.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
Would love to see more Qashqai tested. Some clearly show East Eurasian input in their phenotype
call me crazy but I looked him up on Facebook and found out his mom was half German half Scottish. His dad comes from a very traditional and prideful Qashqai family. His results very clearly show some kind of Turkic descent as he has pretty large amount of East Asian for someone who is half Western Euro; I think if Azeri was a reference population it would say he is half Azeri. Interestingly my Aunt does not really show much East Asian even though she is also half Qashqai the only thing that stands out from a normal Southern Iranian is a high amount of North Euro/Steppe. But I think it just goes to show that the Qashqai is made of many ethnicities. My Aunt probably comes from the Iranic groups while he comes from the original Turkic groups.
Gedrosia 16.88 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.77 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med 22.56 Pct
North_European 26.59 Pct
South_Asian 1.16 Pct
East_African 0.38 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.27 Pct
East_Asian 1.68 Pct
Caucasus 23.12 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
1 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.88
2 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.89
3 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.9
4 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.9
5 51.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.3% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.08
6 53.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.6% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.11
1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +50% Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 3.226308
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Turks_Behar @ 2.023003
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 1.629055
2 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.734436
3 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.743141
4 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 1.761278
5 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.873659
to further prove how crazy I am I did some calculation in order to remove the European (argyll+german averaged) from his results in order to get an idea of what his dad's results might look like. Obviously, this highly questionable accuracy the curiosity was killing me though.
qashqai,23.56,0,1.54,1.22,8.07,6.48,2.32,.76,12.54 ,3.36,41.09,0
.25x
75.6 Zaza
20.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.4 Chinese
1.0 Georgian_Adjara
0.4 Japanese
0.4 Mozabite
.5x
60.2 Zaza
18.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
18.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
1.2 Chinese
1.0 Turkmen_Iraq
1x
61.0 Zaza
32.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2x
91.0 Zaza
9.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
Would love to see more Qashqai tested. Some clearly show East Eurasian input in their phenotype, while most look Iranian. I wonder how homogenous they are, considering they are made up of different ethnic tribes
call me crazy but I looked him up on Facebook and found out his mom was half German half Scottish. His dad comes from a very traditional and prideful Qashqai family. His results very clearly show some kind of Turkic descent as he has pretty large amount of East Asian for someone who is half Western Euro; I think if Azeri was a reference population it would say he is half Azeri. Interestingly my Aunt does not really show much East Asian even though she is also half Qashqai the only thing that stands out from a normal Southern Iranian is a high amount of North Euro/Steppe. But I think it just goes to show that the Qashqai is made of many ethnicities. My Aunt probably comes from the Iranic groups while he comes from the original Turkic groups.
Gedrosia 16.88 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.77 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med 22.56 Pct
North_European 26.59 Pct
South_Asian 1.16 Pct
East_African 0.38 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.27 Pct
East_Asian 1.68 Pct
Caucasus 23.12 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
1 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.88
2 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.89
3 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.9
4 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.9
5 51.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.3% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.08
6 53.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.6% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.11
1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +50% Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 3.226308
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Turks_Behar @ 2.023003
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 1.629055
2 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.734436
3 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.743141
4 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 1.761278
5 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.873659
to further prove how crazy I am I did some calculation in order to remove the European (argyll+german averaged) from his results in order to get an idea of what his dad's results might look like. Obviously, this highly questionable accuracy the curiosity was killing me though.
qashqai,23.56,0,1.54,1.22,8.07,6.48,2.32,.76,12.54 ,3.36,41.09,0
.25x
75.6 Zaza
20.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.4 Chinese
1.0 Georgian_Adjara
0.4 Japanese
0.4 Mozabite
.5x
60.2 Zaza
18.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
18.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
1.2 Chinese
1.0 Turkmen_Iraq
1x
61.0 Zaza
32.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2x
91.0 Zaza
9.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
What does that person look like? Can they pass as white European?
What does that person look like? Can they pass as white European?
I would say he looks pretty European since he as blue-green eyes, fair skin, light golden brown hair, reddish beard. Though I personally could tell he's Iranian looking at him because I know what Iranians look like. To the average white person he probably just looks like a white guy with a bigger nose lol.
I would say he looks pretty European since he as blue-green eyes, fair skin, light golden brown hair, reddish beard. Though I personally could tell he's Iranian looking at him because I know what Iranians look like. To the average white person he probably just looks like a white guy with a bigger nose lol.
That's probably a pretty Aryan look, haha. I guess you don't feel like sharing the link to his page.
Here is a list of people I suspect of being Qashqai heritage. They are Iranains who matched the half Qashqai kit I posted and they have last names that might suggest Qashqai origins not 100% sure they are pure. They also match pretty well with the estimated Qashqai numbers I made.
SORRY I am too lazy to run all there kits through GEDmatch again but here is the numbers for Vahaduo Dodecad 12b (I put a star next to the ones I have highest confidence in) ( DM me and I can send you the kit numbers)
*omar, 25.88,1.04,.92,.44,7.66,5.44,5.06,0,13.1,1.59,38.3 5,.51
*fbagh,27.54,.78,0,0,6.7,8.19,3.05,.39,13.01,.91,3 9.32,.09
*vaseg,26.95,1.15,0,0,7.65,7.11,5.52,.86,12.06,.54 ,38.16,0
*eskan,25.93,.53,.92,.18,4.44,8.4,5.98,1.17,11.51, 2.63,38.26,.09
*abaz,25.53,1.77,1.16,0,7.54,6.59,3.83,1.24,14.12, 1.78,36.44,0
Lot,25.33,1.96,.5,1.4,6.96,9.68,4.5,.15,11.81,0,37 .61,.11
jahan,27.97,.11,0,0,6.61,7.92,4.82,1.31,11.26,.28, 39.69,0
mari,25.82,2.48,1.43,0,4.37,7.72,7.24,0,14.57,0,36 .36,0
lower probability
fekr,29.78,1.43,.47,1.28,5.21,8.62,4.54,.88,12.6,0 ,35.21,0
sbagh,30.98,1.04,1.13,0,2.64,7.31,5.06,.13,11.7,.3 4,39.68,0
highmidAVG,26.36875,1.2275,.72875,.2525,6.49125,7. 63125,5,.64,12.68,.96625,38.02375,.1
Here the estimated attempts
ghashghai,26.46,1,1.54,1.2,6.02,7.58,2.32,.76,12.5 4,2.11,38.24,0
qashqai,25.56,1,1.54,1.22,7.07,6.48,3.32,.76,12.54 ,2.36,39.09,0
Updated V3 Version of my fathers result:
(75% Iranian Turk from Zanjan + 25% Mazandaran)
Dodecad k12b Vahaduo:
Gedrosia: 22.51
Siberian: 3.05
NW_African: 0.79
SE_Asian: 0.06
Atlantic_Med: 6.69
North_European: 10.56
South_Asian: 4.43
East_African: 0.54
SW_Asian: 8.96
East_Asian: 4.87
Caucasus: 37.20
SSA: 0.11
Distance to: Father
5.17684267 Azerbaijani
5.42787251 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.93638779 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.57484653 Iran_Khorasan
8.32531081 Turk_Southeast
8.50112346 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.59795906 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.60963414 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.43041887 Zaza
9.46463945 Turk_South
9.85494292 Iran_Central_East
9.94919595 Iranian_Fars
10.00778197 Kurd_Sorani
10.15785903 Turk_Central_East
10.26547125 Iranian
10.53277741 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.55194769 Turkmen_Iraq
10.72265359 Turk_Anatolia
11.18030858 Turkmen_Iran
11.26223779 Turk_Central_West
11.28121891 Kurd
11.32719736 Lur_Iran
11.61399587 Kurd_KAZ
11.71265128 Turkmens
11.78071730 Yoruk
Target: Father
Distance: 1.3399% / 1.33992501 | ADC: 0.25x
26.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
21.6 Azerbaijani
19.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.2 Turkmens
4.0 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
3.6 Karachay
1.2 Turkmen_Iran
0.6 Kumyks
Target: Father
Distance: 2.4175% / 2.41754645 | ADC: 0.5x
59.8 Azerbaijani
16.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.2 Turkmens
9.6 Turkmen_Iran
2.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
1.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
Some Admixturestudio stuff:
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Yoruk + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3,482
2 50% Greek_Pontus + 50% Tajiks @ 3,706
3 50% Turkmens + 50% Turk_East @ 3,819
4 50% Iran_Mazandaran + 50% Turk_Southwest @ 3,867
5 50% Turkmen_Iran + 50% Turk_East @ 3,945
6 50% Iran_Mazandaran + 50% Turk_Northwest @ 3,997
Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 33% Iran_Central_East + 33% Yoruk @ 3,325
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Iran_Central_East + 25% Iran_Central_East + 25% Zaza + 25% Nogais @ 3,071
2 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% AFG_Tajik @ 3,306
3 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% Iran_Mazandaran + 25% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3,482
dududud
05-28-2020, 09:11 AM
I would say he looks pretty European since he as blue-green eyes, fair skin, light golden brown hair, reddish beard. Though I personally could tell he's Iranian looking at him because I know what Iranians look like. To the average white person he probably just looks like a white guy with a bigger nose lol.
So, he don't look white : it's not because you have a light pigmentation that you can pass as European.
So, he don't look white : it's not because you have a light pigmentation that you can pass as European.
I think to most people a light pigmented middle eastern person would seem white. I’m light pigmented(light brown hair level 6 & hazel eyes& light olive skin) but have pretty noneuropean facial features(wide nose and big lips) and im perceived as white american by most people. I think all of you guys would be able to distinguish light middle east vs euro but you’re probably a bit more interested in race than the average joe lol.
Didac
01-08-2022, 12:58 AM
kurd + Pathan
Georgian+kalash
Azeri+ Sindhi
Aryan game is strong in this one
This ones half iranian half Pakistani. Iranians score same as Azerbaijan Kurds Armenians etc
Didac
04-09-2022, 05:35 PM
can you post his results , Pashtuns and Balochs do share high drift with iranians , this is because of ancient iran Neolithic link , also Pashtuns and Balochs and Chitralis etc live on iranian Platueau not on Indian subcontinet, about 30% Pakistanis have origin on iranian plateau.
That’s all bullshite Pashtuns and chitralis have no connection to iran they just have a bit of Afghani drift. Baloch are the only people with an actual Iranian origin
Didac
04-09-2022, 05:49 PM
Didn't know about Balochs until you mentioned them. Interesting enough, the guy in the vid had a Baloch appear in one of his vids. He doesn't look that exotic when compared to the Baloch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwi-xFBiaI4
Other Iranians that have made an appearance, can they pass as Kurds?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeGDMlmMwBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV2ZNp45H2E
That dude ain’t ethnic baloch just balochi speaking. There’s so many non baloch living in balochistan. Dude looks like ur average Indian pretty obvious he ain’t
Melonman
04-09-2022, 08:59 PM
That dude ain’t ethnic baloch just balochi speaking. There’s so many non baloch living in balochistan. Dude looks like ur average Indian pretty obvious he ain’t
What else would he be, if not baloch? His name is even iranian(Mojtaba), and he speaks persian. How is he indian???
Didac
04-09-2022, 09:16 PM
What else would he be, if not baloch? His name is even iranian(Mojtaba), and he speaks persian. How is he indian???
There’s loads of people that just took names of baloch as protection in the reigon. He doesn’t even look remotely Baloch or Iranian
Melonman
04-09-2022, 09:18 PM
There’s loads of people that just took names of baloch as protection in the reigon. He doesn’t even look remotely Baloch or Iranian
An indian with a name like "Mojtaba" who can speak persian??? If an indian, then an indian in Iran, not pakistani balochistan. Specially the fact that he speaks persian, since balochs in pakistani balochistan dont learn to speak persian.
And there are no indians in balochistan, apart from an extreme tiny numbers of "sindhis"(an ethnicity entirely found in Sindh, east of Balochistan inside Pakistan)
What does "balochs" look like to you? What you think?
That dude ain’t ethnic baloch just balochi speaking. There’s so many non baloch living in balochistan. Dude looks like ur average Indian pretty obvious he ain’t
Why does anyone with darker skin have to be Indian? Are these Kurds or Iraqis Indians too?
If anything you have it backwards Indians look like some Kurds, Iraqis or Persians because of shared Iran-N ancestry
https://i.imgur.com/jEdcQ16.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QKEw8oA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZuXF1en.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lbjBr05.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gbUo6Tg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9Lto1qd.jpg
Melonman
04-09-2022, 09:47 PM
Why does anyone with darker skin have to be Indian? Are these Kurds or Iraqis Indians too?
If anything you have it backwards Indians look like some Kurds, Iraqis or Persians because of shared Iran-N ancestry
https://i.imgur.com/jEdcQ16.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QKEw8oA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZuXF1en.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lbjBr05.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gbUo6Tg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9Lto1qd.jpg
Some of these dont even look "indian", some pics have worse lighting, and some of those are just outliers
But i agree, its ridicolous to think this guy isnt a baloch, becuase he looks "indian"
Why does anyone with darker skin have to be Indian? Are these Kurds or Iraqis Indians too?
If anything you have it backwards Indians look like some Kurds, Iraqis or Persians because of shared Iran-N ancestry
Are these Kurds? They're as brown as the Roma. We tend to associate dark brown skin with non-Caucasoid admixture (black or Indian). What video was the first picture taken from?
Are these Kurds? They're as brown as the Roma. We tend to associate dark brown skin with non-Caucasoid admixture (black or Indian). What video was the first picture taken from?
1- Kurds from N Iraq. Typical Kurd sharwal trousers. Don’t remember video
2- Kurd N. Iraq
3- Kurds from Suleimani Iraq
4- Iraqi Arabs- Najaf
5- Iraqi Arab Baghdad
6- Iraqi Arab - Najaf
In general Iran-N related darkens. Anatolia-N or Steppe lightens
1- Kurds from N Iraq. Typical Kurd sharwal trousers. Don’t remember video
2- Kurd N. Iraq
3- Kurds from Suleimani Iraq
4- Iraqi Arabs- Najaf
5- Iraqi Arab Baghdad
6- Iraqi Arab - Najaf
In general Iran-N related darkens. Anatolia-N or Steppe lightens
Okay. I just wanted to check those boys from a different angle. Their profiles look somewhat asymmetrical to me (as opposed to, say, the fifth picture).
Didac
04-09-2022, 11:32 PM
Some of these dont even look "indian", some pics have worse lighting, and some of those are just outliers
But i agree, its ridicolous to think this guy isnt a baloch, becuase he looks "indian"
I’ve seen a lot of balochis you can see my thread about them that I’ve made. I’ve spent time researching them. Secondly I have literally seen an Indian in England looking like this dudes brother. He’s not baloch I’ll link you my thread so u can see what they look like
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