View Full Version : Do Romanians differ in genetics from her Slavic neighbors
poiuytrewq0987
03-04-2011, 07:13 AM
I'm wondering if there were any studies done to try and uncover whether there's any significant difference in genetics of Romanians to her neighbors such as Ukrainians, Bulgarians and Serbians or the difference really only lies in the Romanization of Dacia.
Pallantides
03-04-2011, 07:38 PM
Their neighbours are not that Slavic genetically either(if Poles and Belarusians are the benchmark for Slavicness that is)
poiuytrewq0987
03-06-2011, 09:00 AM
Their neighbours are not that Slavic genetically either(if Poles and Belarusians are the benchmark for Slavicness that is)
I was more talking about how similar Romanians are in blood since they differ quite a lot linguistics-wise with her neighbors. Not going on with a "Slavic benchmark" or whatever.
Linguistics doesn't play a role in genetics, geography does. Romanians are the closest to people who are next to them, that applies to all other European ethnicities.
For instance the Balts are genetically very close to the Estonians, mostly because they descend(the Balts assimilated them) from the same Finnic population as we do.
I was more talking about how similar Romanians are in blood since they differ quite a lot linguistics-wise with her neighbors. Not going on with a "Slavic benchmark" or whatever.
I think they are similar, I don't know how much... At least compared to Serbs.
I asked people on biodiversity forum to guess my origin and few people said I'm probably Romanian, even Romanian guys said so(anyway, if not Romania, most of answers were Central-Eastern Europe).
That surrounding looks so typical for Romania, Serbia and Hungary
I would say Romanian.
Yes,I'm romanian. I never did think you could be something else except a romanian type
You look romanian to me,maybe from Transylvania.
Anyway, what I wanted to say, if Serb can look Romanian, then Romanian can look Serbian too. So there is some connection at least with Southern Slavs. I think they must be similar to us.
Redar14
03-06-2011, 12:00 PM
Romanians are mix between Slavs, Dacians and Romans. It is the opinion of linguists
Redar14
03-06-2011, 03:01 PM
I'm wondering if there were any studies done to try and uncover whether there's any significant difference in genetics of Romanians to her neighbors such as Ukrainians, Bulgarians and Serbians or the difference really only lies in the Romanization of Dacia.
Propably Romanians and Albanians are related. Albanians are descendants of the Thracians not Illyrians.
Redar14
03-06-2011, 04:16 PM
Sorry. I made mistake. Albanians are non-romanized Illyrians and Romanians are romanized Illyrians. Orginally Dacians were destroyed by the Romans and the Teutonic tribes.
Monolith
03-07-2011, 11:42 AM
Propably Romanians and Albanians are related. Albanians are descendants of the Thracians not Illyrians.
Sorry. I made mistake. Albanians are non-romanized Illyrians and Romanians are romanized Illyrians. Orginally Dacians were destroyed by the Romans and the Teutonic tribes.
There's no way of knowing that.
Redar14
03-07-2011, 12:06 PM
There's no way of knowing that.
Romanian and Albanian language have 70 similar words. In Romanian language haven't germanic or iranian words.
Radojica
03-07-2011, 01:34 PM
I met two Romanians last summer while being in Montenegro. They both could pass as Slavs. What's more, at one moment i almost fell down and said "opa" and they laughed on the fact they are saying that too in the same situation :D
Romanian and Albanian language have 70 similar words. In Romanian language haven't germanic or iranian words.
only 70 words? :D
Ushtari
03-07-2011, 04:54 PM
Romanian and Albanian language have 70 similar words. In Romanian language haven't germanic or iranian words.
Albanian and Romanian share about 160 cognates.
Monolith
03-07-2011, 06:16 PM
Albanian and Romanian share about 160 cognates.
I think this is more accurate.
Romanian and Albanian language have 70 similar words.
That doesn't say anything about Albanian being a descendant of either Illyrian or Thracian. There was already a thread about it here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19495).
In Romanian language haven't germanic or iranian words.
Sure there are, though they are rather recent.
Adrian
04-09-2011, 12:47 PM
Romanian and Albanian language have 70 similar words. In Romanian language haven't germanic or iranian words.
Even capital city of Romania is in albanian language.
Bucureşti
c=k
ş=sh
In albanian Bukureshti
Bukur - Beautyful
http://www.argjiro.net/fjalor/index2.php3
ėshtė - Is
http://www.argjiro.net/fjalor/index2.php3
Monolith
04-09-2011, 01:06 PM
Even capital city of Romania is in albanian language.
Bucureşti
c=k
ş=sh
In albanian Bukureshti
Bukur - Beautyful
http://www.argjiro.net/fjalor/index2.php3
ėshtė - Is
http://www.argjiro.net/fjalor/index2.php3
Very interesting, although that may as well be a coincidence. Take Croatian coastal town of Zadar, for example. 'za' means for and 'dar' means gift in Croatian, but this etymology is absolutely wrong since Zadar derives from Iader. The latter isn't even Indo-European, as it predates all Illyrian and Liburnian toponyms, hydronyms etc. in the area.
Decebal
04-25-2013, 02:31 PM
I am not a linguist or etymologist but as a Romanian we had been taught at school, and I suppose there are scientific researches about this, that some of the words (such as the ones you give as example) were imported by the travelling shepherds. It appears that centuries ago, shepherds used to travel far and wide, exchanging words, artefacts, stories. Examples of this exchanges can be traced from all the way in Finland (the forms they used to produce cheese for example, use the same geometrical decorations like in Romania) to South of the Balkans. I expect that there were many such exchanges between many shepherds around the central and eastern europe, since these was a very mobile community (i expect before the feudalism / middle age periods when land become own property).
It is funny that you give as example Bucuresti. 'Bucuresti' is known to come from a shepherd name which was 'Bucur'. This shepherd established in the area where the city is now and there's even an old church bearing his name ('The Church of Bucur' known as 'the Shepherd'), on a place where they say that the shepherd used to live.
Here is a link to the wikipedia page describing this church:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucur_Church
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