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Voskos
05-21-2018, 04:12 PM
As in the sum of North Sea+ East Euro+Baltic.

I got 12.5% North Sea+ 4.51% Baltic+ 3.96%East Euro=20.97%

Norb
05-21-2018, 04:41 PM
North Sea - 37.28
Baltic - 10.12
East Euro - 7.88

Voskos
05-21-2018, 04:43 PM
North Sea - 37.28
Baltic - 10.12
East Euro - 7.88

you're basically over 50% north european.

Gwydion
05-21-2018, 04:46 PM
North Sea: 33. 61
Baltic: 9.77
East Euro: 12.26

Total: 55.64

Norb
05-21-2018, 04:46 PM
you're basically over 50% north european.

I dont know how? if I am 50% North that means I am 50% something else!!

Aspar
05-21-2018, 04:47 PM
North_Sea 16.02
Baltic 11.54
Eastern_Euro 10.23

Voskos
05-21-2018, 04:47 PM
I dont know how? if I am 50% North that means I am 50% something else!!

i guess you're 50%North+50% west. something like that.

Kriptc06
05-21-2018, 04:50 PM
North_Sea 13.06
Baltic 6.33
Eastern_Euro 3.27

22.06

Dick
05-21-2018, 04:51 PM
52.75

1. 59% estonian +41% italian south

Voskos
05-21-2018, 04:53 PM
52.75

1. 59% estonian +41% sicilian nightclubs

michal3141
05-21-2018, 04:55 PM
North_Sea: 22.30
Baltic: 25.89
Eastern_Euro: 22.87

Total: 71.06

TEUTORIGOS
05-21-2018, 04:57 PM
North Sea: 33. 61
Baltic: 9.77
East Euro: 12.26

Total: 55.64




From Ulster Ireland as you can see there is little to no difference :

North_Sea 35.89
Baltic 9.99
Eastern_Euro 9.52

Total 55.40

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
05-21-2018, 04:58 PM
Viriato


North_Sea 19.84
Baltic 5.14
Eastern_Euro 5.50

30,48%



Mistress Viriato

North_Sea 25.66
Baltic 3.22
Eastern_Euro 4.01

32,89%

Profileid
05-21-2018, 04:58 PM
North_Sea 37.65+Baltic 7.72+Eastern_Euro 10.95=56.32%

you're basically over 50% north european.
Do you want "nordic-slavic" or northern euro? Why then,not count Atlantic? The Iberian assocation?

Voskos
05-21-2018, 05:00 PM
North_Sea 37.65+Baltic 7.72+Eastern_Euro 10.95=56.32%

Do you want "nordic-slavic" or northern euro? Why then,not count Atlantic? The Iberian assocation?

atlantic is pretty high in sardinians and french iirc. i could be wrong though.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
05-21-2018, 05:02 PM
North_Sea 37.65+Baltic 7.72+Eastern_Euro 10.95=56.32%

Do you want "nordic-slavic" or northern euro? Why then,not count Atlantic? The Iberian assocation?

Danish, Orcadians and Dutch score as much Atlantic on average as we do.

TEUTORIGOS
05-21-2018, 05:08 PM
atlantic is pretty high in sardinians and french iirc. i could be wrong though.

'High' and statistically significant are not the samething per se. Nigga are you retarded ? You do realize the North Sea is on one side of Britain and the Atlantic Ocean on the other ? Have you ever been to Western Britain or Wales ? Seems to me British people would score some significant Atlantic. My score :

Atlantic 27.28

Norb
05-21-2018, 05:09 PM
'High' statistically significant are not the samething per se. Nigga are you retarded ? You do realize the North Sea is on one side of Britain and the Atlantic Ocean on the other ? Have you ever been to Western Britain or Wales ? Seems to me British people would score some significant Atlantic. My score :

Atlantic 27.28

you score more than me?

Profileid
05-21-2018, 05:11 PM
my atlantic is 27.57

Voskos
05-21-2018, 05:13 PM
'High' and statistically significant are not the samething per se. Nigga are you retarded ? You do realize the North Sea is on one side of Britain and the Atlantic Ocean on the other ? Have you ever been to Western Britain or Wales ? Seems to me British people would score some significant Atlantic. My score :

Atlantic 27.28

it peaks in basques. also behave yourself.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ceJ9vNbit60/U8ZotKTlOvI/AAAAAAAAA8o/hsTqLs5SvyU/w350-h207-no/Atlantic_K15_small.png

Gwydion
05-21-2018, 05:20 PM
'High' and statistically significant are not the samething per se. Nigga are you retarded ? You do realize the North Sea is on one side of Britain and the Atlantic Ocean on the other ? Have you ever been to Western Britain or Wales ? Seems to me British people would score some significant Atlantic. My score :

Atlantic 27.28

Yea I'm mostly of British descent and my Atlantic is 29.88. Add that into my previous total and I'm at 85.52.

Aren
05-21-2018, 05:21 PM
Why include Eastern Euro in Slavic when it peaks in non-Slavs?

michal3141
05-21-2018, 05:23 PM
it peaks in basques. also behave yourself.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ceJ9vNbit60/U8ZotKTlOvI/AAAAAAAAA8o/hsTqLs5SvyU/w350-h207-no/Atlantic_K15_small.png

So it looks like this Atlantic component is basically good for telling apart West-European from East-European ancestry but it is not really useful for North vs South.
@mongrel. Could you also post maps for East_European, Baltic and North_Sea?

Voskos
05-21-2018, 05:26 PM
Why include Eastern Euro in Slavic when it peaks in non-Slavs?

it peaks in populations native to russia, which is a slavic country. thread is about total northern admixture either way.

Voskos
05-21-2018, 05:27 PM
So it looks like this Atlantic component is basically good for telling apart West-European from East-European ancestry but it is not really useful for North vs South.
@mongrel. Could you also post maps for East_European, Baltic and North_Sea?

http://bga101.blogspot.gr/2013/10/eurogenes-k15-now-at-gedmatch.html

Aren
05-21-2018, 05:29 PM
it peaks in populations native to russia, which is a slavic country. thread is about total northern admixture either way.

It peaks in Chuvash, Turkic people. I think Baltic + North Sea would've been more accurate but it's your thread.

Kelmendasi
05-21-2018, 05:30 PM
Ftdna:
North sea - 11.96 + Baltic - 13.63 + East Euro- 6.44 = 32.03%

23andme:
North sea - 12.55 + Baltic - 16.69 + East Euro - 5.63 = 34.87%

Albannach
05-21-2018, 05:32 PM
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 36.09
2 Atlantic 32.33
3 Baltic 12.09
4 Eastern_Euro 8.4
5 West_Asian 5.6
6 West_Med 4.25
7 Oceanian 0.9
8 Amerindian 0.33

56.58%

My Atlantic is pretty high at 32.33, I have yet to see anyone from the UK or I reland higher than that.

If the Atlantic component is high in Sardinians and peaks in Basques, then presumably it's a neolithic component?

Teutone
05-21-2018, 05:32 PM
North Sea: 32.56
Baltic: 12.13
Eastern Euro: 12.46

= 57.15

Voskos
05-21-2018, 05:36 PM
It peaks in Chuvash, Turkic people. I think Baltic + North Sea would've been more accurate but it's your thread.

on fst ''Eastern Euro'' is closer to ''North Sea'' component.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQS3VvTUYyYXd0akk/edit

Aren
05-21-2018, 05:41 PM
on fst ''Eastern Euro'' is closer to ''North Sea'' component.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQS3VvTUYyYXd0akk/edit

Yeah I know, most probably cause both components are linked to early Indo-Europeans. But I thought this was more about geography?

Either way my scores: Baltic 1.97, Eastern_Euro 4.41
Total: 6.38

Profileid
05-21-2018, 05:43 PM
North Sea: 32.56
Baltic: 12.13
Eastern Euro: 12.46

= 57.15

I wonder if your Baltic is higher than average for Germans.

Teutone
05-21-2018, 05:45 PM
I wonder if your Baltic is higher than average for Germans.

It is, my Grandpa is from East Prussia and his ancestors mixed with Baltics pretty sure.

michal3141
05-21-2018, 06:09 PM
Yeah I know, most probably cause both components are linked to early Indo-Europeans. But I thought this was more about geography?

Either way my scores: Baltic 1.97, Eastern_Euro 4.41
Total: 6.38

This is a very valid point.
I've tried two Yamnaya (early Indo-European) samples:

First one:
North_Sea 31.56
Atlantic -
Baltic 10.57
Eastern_Euro 31.93
West_Asian 17.70
South_Asian 4.52
Amerindian 3.73

Second one:
North_Sea 29.29
Atlantic 5.28
Baltic 11.40
Eastern_Euro 27.67
West_Asian 20.02
South_Asian 3.46
Amerindian 2.88

So I would say that North_Sea+Baltic+Eastern_Euro is the European part of Indo-European (the rest is mostly connected to West_Asian)

This Atlantic component seems to be present in some Yamnaya samples but not in all of them so it is not inherently Indo-European.

While I don't have anything against calling this Nordic-Slavic score I think the more appropriate name would be something like: "Steppe-to-Europe" to indicate the admixture common in steppe cultures and present European populations.

Petalpusher
05-21-2018, 06:28 PM
on fst ''Eastern Euro'' is closer to ''North Sea'' component.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQS3VvTUYyYXd0akk/edit

It's not, you might have jumped a column, this is the fst of North Sea

1. North_Sea @ 0
2. Atlantic @ 15
3. Baltic @ 20
4. Eastern @ 20
5. East_med @ 26
6. West_Asian @ 27
7. West_Med @ 29
8. Red_Sea @ 53
9. South_Asian @ 60
10. NE_Africa @ 109
11. Siberian @ 111
12. SE_Asian @ 112
13. Amerindian @ 138
14. Sub-Saharan @ 144
15. Oceanian @ 178

Atlantic is more related to North_Sea than Baltic and Eastern are.




atlantic is pretty high in sardinians and french iirc. i could be wrong though.
Im afraid you are, again about this. North German, North Dutch and even Danes score more Atlantic than France, Sardinia score less Atlantic than...Sweden and Norway. Which shouldn't be too surprising considering the fst.

Voskos
05-21-2018, 06:36 PM
It's not, you might have jumped a column, this is the fst of North Sea

1. North_Sea @ 0
2. Atlantic @ 15
3. Baltic @ 20
4. Eastern @ 20
5. East_med @ 26
6. West_Asian @ 27
7. West_Med @ 29
8. Red_Sea @ 53
9. South_Asian @ 60
10. NE_Africa @ 109
11. Siberian @ 111
12. SE_Asian @ 112
13. Amerindian @ 138
14. Sub-Saharan @ 144
15. Oceanian @ 178

Atlantic is more related to North_Sea than Baltic and Eastern are.




Im afraid you are, again about this. North German, North Dutch and even Danes score more Atlantic than France, Sardinia score less Atlantic than...Sweden and Norway. Which shouldn't be too surprising considering the fst.

read my posts before claiming im wrong. I said that the closest to East Euro is North Sea. I never said that the closest to North Sea is East Euro.

Aren
05-21-2018, 06:43 PM
This is a very valid point.
I've tried two Yamnaya (early Indo-European) samples:

First one:
North_Sea 31.56
Atlantic -
Baltic 10.57
Eastern_Euro 31.93
West_Asian 17.70
South_Asian 4.52
Amerindian 3.73

Second one:
North_Sea 29.29
Atlantic 5.28
Baltic 11.40
Eastern_Euro 27.67
West_Asian 20.02
South_Asian 3.46
Amerindian 2.88

So I would say that North_Sea+Baltic+Eastern_Euro is the European part of Indo-European (the rest is mostly connected to West_Asian)

This Atlantic component seems to be present in some Yamnaya samples but not in all of them so it is not inherently Indo-European.

While I don't have anything against calling this Nordic-Slavic score I think the more appropriate name would be something like: "Steppe-to-Europe" to indicate the admixture common in steppe cultures and present European populations.

It's quite inaccruate to use modern-based components and attribute it to a certain ancient populations that brought them, considering most Europeans are mixed with old Europe + Steppe, and some Europeans also have extra Siberian, CHG/Iran_N, Levantine and/or North African input.
But considering Norwegians are one of the most Steppe populations in Europe it's not surprising Yamnaya scored so high in North Sea. I think Yamnaya scoring high in East Euro(I'm guessing based on Mordvins?) because it acts as a proxy for extra ANE/EHG.
Baltic seems to be WHG shifted, with some ENF and EHG aswell.

Petalpusher
05-21-2018, 06:59 PM
read my posts before claiming im wrong. I said that the closest to East Euro is North Sea. I never said that the closest to North Sea is East Euro.

You were answering to Aren, Eastern was closer to North Sea than Baltic is, but again even Atlantic is closer to Eastern and North_Sea than Baltic is, which isn't "Eastern Euro" btw, it's something ANE rich or Afontova Gora, precisely the reason why it's not as related to Baltic as might have thought.

Voskos
05-21-2018, 07:06 PM
You were answering to Aren, Eastern was closer to North Sea than Baltic is, but again even Atlantic is closer to Eastern and North_Sea than Baltic is, which isn't "Eastern Euro" btw, it's something ANE rich or Afontova Gora, precisely reason why it's not as related to Baltic as we could have thought.

You still haven't understood my post, lol. He said East Euro peaks in CHuvash, who are Turkic, and I replied that East Euro as a component is closer to ''North Sea'' than to anything else on the fst table, which is an indication it is a clearly ''europid'' component . What does this have to do with Atlantic?

Petalpusher
05-21-2018, 07:33 PM
You still haven't understood my post, lol. He said East Euro peaks in CHuvash, who are Turkic, and I replied that East Euro as a component is closer to ''North Sea'' than to anything else on the fst table, which is an indication it is a clearly ''europid'' component . What does this have to do with Atlantic?

Ok but due to the lack of anything closer, i mean even East med has North_Sea @26 and it's not related to North_Sea if it wasn't for the ANE present in both (but from very different sources)

This is AG2 and what "Eastern" is mostly based on with MA1, there is an element that much later became present in Europe through a lot of time and mixing but at this point it doesn't look very Slavic or 'Europid' to me, hence the Chuvash/Turkic peak.

Eastern 51.75
North sea 19.25
Amerindian 16.97
Baltic 9.77
Siberian 3.58
South Asian 2.26
East_Asian 1.63
Oceanian 0.34
Northeast African 0.26


In K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_Altaic 76.18
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 15.66
3 European_Early_Farmers 5.23
4 Subsaharian 1.44
5 African_Pygmy 1.06
6 Archaic_Human 0.43

Aren
05-21-2018, 07:54 PM
This is a very valid point.
I've tried two Yamnaya (early Indo-European) samples:

First one:
North_Sea 31.56
Atlantic -
Baltic 10.57
Eastern_Euro 31.93
West_Asian 17.70
South_Asian 4.52
Amerindian 3.73

Second one:
North_Sea 29.29
Atlantic 5.28
Baltic 11.40
Eastern_Euro 27.67
West_Asian 20.02
South_Asian 3.46
Amerindian 2.88

So I would say that North_Sea+Baltic+Eastern_Euro is the European part of Indo-European (the rest is mostly connected to West_Asian)

This Atlantic component seems to be present in some Yamnaya samples but not in all of them so it is not inherently Indo-European.

While I don't have anything against calling this Nordic-Slavic score I think the more appropriate name would be something like: "Steppe-to-Europe" to indicate the admixture common in steppe cultures and present European populations.

Interestingly enough North Sea is about as high as Baltic in Loschbour. Notice also the high Atlantic, which is most likely a WHG + ENF mix.

North_Sea 34.51
Atlantic 23.86
Baltic 33.51
Eastern_Euro 7.33

Even the Latvian HG, which is a bit ANE shifted

North_Sea 33.80
Atlantic 13.14
Baltic 35.61
Eastern_Euro 17.45

North Sea seems to be Steppe + WHG mostly.

Voskos
05-21-2018, 07:56 PM
Ok but due to the lack of anything closer, i mean even East med has North_Sea @26 and it's not related to North_Sea if it wasn't for the ANE present in both (but from very different sources)

This is AG2 and what "Eastern" is mostly based on with MA1, there is an element that much later became present in Europe through a lot of time and mixing but at this point it doesn't look very Slavic or 'Europid' to me, hence the Chuvash/Turkic peak.

Eastern 51.75
North sea 19.25
Amerindian 16.97
Baltic 9.77
Siberian 3.58
South Asian 2.26
East_Asian 1.63
Oceanian 0.34
Northeast African 0.26


In K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_Altaic 76.18
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 15.66
3 European_Early_Farmers 5.23
4 Subsaharian 1.44
5 African_Pygmy 1.06
6 Archaic_Human 0.43

what populations did he use to train this component? you cant be speculating that East Euro is AG2 when at the time of the creation of this calc these genomes werent even discovered. If Mari - Erzya- Chuvash score it then it's related to them but not sure how you link it to ancestral clusters.
The question is whether you consider Chuvash as Europid, if yes then you agree with me, if not you consider it an Asian component but its just a matter of definition.

frankhammer
05-21-2018, 08:00 PM
North_Sea 36.15
Baltic 10.55
Eastern_Euro 10.32

57.02%

Art23
05-21-2018, 08:00 PM
North_Sea 20.41
Baltic 26.00
Eastern_Euro 20.39

= 66.80

I think I have one of the lowest North Sea among Europeans. Overall, the score is high, but I am far from being typical Nordic-Slavic. Look at my avatar. :rolleyes:

michal3141
05-21-2018, 08:08 PM
Interestingly enough North Sea is about as high as Baltic in Loschbour. Notice also the high Atlantic, which is most likely a WHG + ENF mix.

North_Sea 34.51
Atlantic 23.86
Baltic 33.51
Eastern_Euro 7.33

Even the Latvian HG, which is a bit ANE shifted

North_Sea 33.80
Atlantic 13.14
Baltic 35.61
Eastern_Euro 17.45

North Sea seems to be Steppe + WHG mostly.

It is all pretty complex. There is this simplified model that Yamnaya = 60% Eastern Hunter Gatherer + 40% Caucasus Hunter Gatherer. On the other hand, EHG (Eastern Hunter Gatherer) is somewhere on a cline between WHG and MA1/ANE.

michal3141
05-21-2018, 08:14 PM
It's quite inaccruate to use modern-based components and attribute it to a certain ancient populations that brought them, considering most Europeans are mixed with old Europe + Steppe, and some Europeans also have extra Siberian, CHG/Iran_N, Levantine and/or North African input.
But considering Norwegians are one of the most Steppe populations in Europe it's not surprising Yamnaya scored so high in North Sea. I think Yamnaya scoring high in East Euro(I'm guessing based on Mordvins?) because it acts as a proxy for extra ANE/EHG.
Baltic seems to be WHG shifted, with some ENF and EHG aswell.

I am not sure how this calculator (Eurogenes K15) was created. I guess it is ADMIXTURE based but it remains a question whether it was created using a supervised mode (with specific populations chosen to be representative for components) or using an unsupervised mode (no specific populations assignments to components, components created automatically based on samples). I agree of course that attributing modern-based components to ancient populations is inaccurate.

Vid Flumina
05-21-2018, 08:37 PM
North_Sea 21.97
Baltic 9.06
Eastern_Euro 5.56

Total: 36.59

PoliAussie
05-21-2018, 10:33 PM
North Sea 28.73%
East Euro 9.36%
Baltic 17.05%
Total 55.15%

Also 21.64% Atlantic

Thracian
05-21-2018, 10:40 PM
N. Sea 16.91
Baltic 11.57
E. European 6.21
Total 34.69

Damião de Góis
05-21-2018, 10:47 PM
North_Sea 19.25
Baltic 6.61
Eastern_Euro 3.09

28.95

Leto
05-21-2018, 11:59 PM
Me:

North_Sea 23.93
Baltic 24.43
Eastern_Euro 25.70

Father:

North_Sea 16.41
Baltic 30.87
Eastern_Euro 25.80

Mother:

North_Sea 24.63
Baltic 24.77
Eastern_Euro 26.54

The Atlantic is also pretty white, I think, but you didn't include it.

Profileid
05-22-2018, 12:08 AM
Wonder what a half Swede-half Pole would get

Leto
05-22-2018, 12:09 AM
This is the Aryan Afghan I posted a while ago. He must have some Pamiri ancestry, maybe 1/2 Pamiri or something like that

North_Sea 7.37
Baltic 3.65
Eastern_Euro 16.87

Leto
05-22-2018, 12:10 AM
Generally I dislike K15. A couple of dubious components as well as inaccurate oracles (they are not accurate for me and my parents).

Leto
05-22-2018, 12:21 AM
Wonder what a half Swede-half Pole would get
Half German from Rheinland, half Croat

North_Sea 23.93
Atlantic 17.44
Baltic 15.95
Eastern_Euro 14.49
West_Med 12.86

Half Russian-German (full GER), half Northern Russian siblings

North_Sea 28.30
Atlantic 15.69
Baltic 22.25
Eastern_Euro 15.98
West_Med 6.53

North_Sea 23.67
Atlantic 15.79
Baltic 18.80
Eastern_Euro 18.48
West_Med 11.03

Apparently some stuff went from the NS to the WM and from the Baltic to the EE.

TheMaestro
05-22-2018, 12:36 AM
As in the sum of North Sea+ East Euro+Baltic.

I got 12.5% North Sea+ 4.51% Baltic+ 3.96%East Euro=20.97%

North Sea 18.12 + East Euro 9.87 + Baltic 16.79- 45.04%

Profileid
05-22-2018, 12:44 AM
Half German from Rheinland, half Croat

North_Sea 23.93
Atlantic 17.44
Baltic 15.95
Eastern_Euro 14.49
West_Med 12.86

Half Russian-German (full GER), half Northern Russian siblings

North_Sea 28.30
Atlantic 15.69
Baltic 22.25
Eastern_Euro 15.98
West_Med 6.53

North_Sea 23.67
Atlantic 15.79
Baltic 18.80
Eastern_Euro 18.48
West_Med 11.03

Apparently some stuff went from the NS to the WM and from the Baltic to the EE.

Was expecting higher components actually. Your score is higher

alnortedelsur
05-22-2018, 12:56 AM
Me (Ancestry DNA):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 25.77
2 West_Med 16.78
3 North_Sea 14.83
4 East_Med 13.78
5 Amerindian 6.4
6 Sub-Saharan 5.09
7 Baltic 4.58
8 West_Asian 4.21
9 Eastern_Euro 3.44
10 Red_Sea 3.09
11 Northeast_African 1.61
12 Siberian 0.41

22.85

My mom (23andme):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 32.75
2 West_Med 19.89
3 East_Med 18.23
4 North_Sea 12.76
5 Baltic 5.1
6 Eastern_Euro 4.54
7 Northeast_African 2.12
8 Red_Sea 1.95
9 West_Asian 1.85
10 Sub-Saharan 0.83

22.40

Leto
05-22-2018, 12:57 AM
Was expecting higher components actually. Your score is higher
Those people are much more Western than I am genetically.

Jägerstaffel
05-22-2018, 01:16 AM
North Sea: 31.32
Baltic: 11.73
Eastern Euro: 9.85
Total: 52.90

Are we doing Atlantic? I'm 28.27 there. 81.17 in total if so.

Petalpusher
05-22-2018, 01:36 AM
what populations did he use to train this component? you cant be speculating that East Euro is AG2 when at the time of the creation of this calc these genomes werent even discovered. If Mari - Erzya- Chuvash score it then it's related to them but not sure how you link it to ancestral clusters.

Afontova Gora and Mal'ta? They were discovered in 2013, at the time K15 was released. Erzya and Chuvash score high because they have a strong Siberian element and those two were upper paleo Siberian. Notice also how it increases in Saami too, not because they are more Slavic, just more Siberian.

K15's Eastern and ANE heatmap are seemingly the same

http://s014.radikal.ru/i329/1512/f3/630c469b270e.png

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQOXFMakN2cVY0MDQ/edit

Im not saying it's not European at all, at least it's more West Eurasian than East Eurasian, but i don't really see it as the element that makes Slavs, Slavic, it's Baltic to me, otherwise we might as well call central Asia Slavic too.

TEUTORIGOS
05-22-2018, 01:52 AM
Generally I dislike K15. A couple of dubious components as well as inaccurate oracles (they are not accurate for me and my parents).

Ah, shieet you beez a Slavic Nigga rocket scientist !People who suck at math have a strong tendency to personalize e.g. "but me and MUH parents" ! K15 may in reality be crap but you need a bigger statistical sample size or demographic statistical size to determine that--"but.. But... I beez counting up to three and shiznit" !

https://blog.zambah.com/content/images/2014/Sep/Its-not-rocket.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN9x6zckn18

Voskos
05-22-2018, 09:26 AM
Afontova Gora and Mal'ta? They were discovered in 2013, at the time K15 was released. Erzya and Chuvash score high because they have a strong Siberian element and those two were upper paleo Siberian. Notice also how it increases in Saami too, not because they are more Slavic, just more Siberian.

K15's Eastern and ANE heatmap are seemingly the same

http://s014.radikal.ru/i329/1512/f3/630c469b270e.png

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQOXFMakN2cVY0MDQ/edit

Im not saying it's not European at all, at least it's more West Eurasian than East Eurasian, but i don't really see it as the element that makes Slavs, Slavic, it's Baltic to me, otherwise we might as well call central Asia Slavic too.

ok i agree with this . what i find interesting is that it peaks in chuvash, yet when some ancients like the ones you posted are tested they score more of it than chuvash do. motala also scores 27% , and motala is hunter gatherer.

Petalpusher
05-22-2018, 09:49 AM
ok i agree with this . what i find interesting is that it peaks in chuvash, yet when some ancients like the ones you posted are tested they score more of it than chuvash do. motala also scores 27% , and motala is hunter gatherer.

Yea Motala is an SHG, who are known to be about 75% WHG + 25% ANE, so exactly what you say. Ancient often proportionnaly score more of these old things because they usually have less elements, like 75% WHG or 75% ANE for EHG's would be impossible as well today. I think we can even see some sort of split in the this type of admixture for West Eurasia, one following a Siberian cline north and one more in central Europe, maybe initially from the Caucasus (they score very high ANE), it's even higher in Hungary than Balts or Norwegians/Swedes.

Voskos
05-22-2018, 10:26 AM
My grandfather: same region as me, but higher altitude. he gets twice my baltic and half my north sea.

8.58% baltic+5.91% north sea+4.98% east euro= 19.47%

Hulu
05-22-2018, 10:42 AM
North_Sea 12.23
Atlantic 9.49
Baltic 8.40
Eastern_Euro 6.98

BrotherPopulation
North_Sea 12.15
Atlantic 11.52
Baltic 8.59
Eastern_Euro 5.86

Leto
05-22-2018, 09:49 PM
Wonder what a half Swede-half Pole would get
These are the results of a family. The man is Swedish, possibly a Finnish Swede and the woman is most likely Estonian. Their first K15 oracle matches:

North_Swedish 4.66
Belorussian 5.71
Southwest_Finnish 6.39
Southwest_Finnish 5.15




Father

North_Sea 37.10
Atlantic 17.89
Baltic 17.29
Eastern_Euro 13.79
West_Med 6.02
Mother

North_Sea 17.70
Atlantic 21.30
Baltic 32.86
Eastern_Euro 22.57
West_Med -


Daughter

North_Sea 29.73
Atlantic 18.83
Baltic 25.32
Eastern_Euro 17.36
West_Med 1.63
Son

North_Sea 27.05
Atlantic 21.23
Baltic 24.48
Eastern_Euro 17.68
West_Med 4.09

Bosniensis
05-22-2018, 10:04 PM
As in the sum of North Sea+ East Euro+Baltic.

I got 12.5% North Sea+ 4.51% Baltic+ 3.96%East Euro=20.97%

North Sea: 16.37%
Eastern_Euro 13.35%
Baltic 17.93%
-------------------------
47,65%

I am a bit extreme also: South Poland + Greece Thessaly (50/50) lol

North South Mix.

TheMaestro
05-22-2018, 10:09 PM
North Sea: 16.37%
Eastern_Euro 13.35%
Baltic 17.93%
-------------------------
47,65%

I am a bit extreme also: South Poland + Greece Thessaly (50/50) lol

North South Mix.

We are same mix brotha.

Profileid
05-22-2018, 10:11 PM
These are the results of a family. The man is Swedish, possibly a Finnish Swede and the woman is most likely Estonian. Their first K15 oracle matches:

North_Swedish 4.66
Belorussian 5.71
Southwest_Finnish 6.39
Southwest_Finnish 5.15




Father

North_Sea 37.10
Atlantic 17.89
Baltic 17.29
Eastern_Euro 13.79
West_Med 6.02
Mother

North_Sea 17.70
Atlantic 21.30
Baltic 32.86
Eastern_Euro 22.57
West_Med -


Daughter

North_Sea 29.73
Atlantic 18.83
Baltic 25.32
Eastern_Euro 17.36
West_Med 1.63
Son

North_Sea 27.05
Atlantic 21.23
Baltic 24.48
Eastern_Euro 17.68
West_Med 4.09



Great data.
Looks like the children get about the same nordic-slavic score as their parents.

de Burgh II
05-22-2018, 10:50 PM
Population
North_Sea 33.59 Pct
Atlantic 30.52 Pct
Baltic 9.65 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.58 Pc

firemonkey
05-23-2018, 04:01 PM
Mine: North sea + East Euro + Baltic = 36.04 + 7.77+10.71= 54.52
Father: 36.42+6.54+10.80 = 53.76

Ritz06
05-23-2018, 04:45 PM
North_Sea 18.81
Baltic 5.95
Eastern_Euro 8.67

= 33,43%

Norb
05-23-2018, 04:47 PM
North_Sea 18.81
Baltic 5.95
Eastern_Euro 8.67

= 33,43%

I thought North Sea peaked in Norway?

Profileid
05-23-2018, 04:57 PM
I thought North Sea peaked in Norway?

look at his ancestry again

GreentheViper
07-10-2018, 01:16 AM
North Sea: 20.93%
Baltic: 8.03%
Eastern Euro: 7.5%

Total: 36.46

Norka
07-10-2018, 01:53 AM
North_Sea 15.15
Baltic 25.92
Eastern_Euro 23.46

Total= 64.53

oszkar07
07-10-2018, 01:44 PM
North_Sea 24.02
Baltic 16.81
Eastern_Euro 13.33

54.16

Sp_loa
07-10-2018, 01:53 PM
North_Sea 2.70
Baltic 2.47
Eastern_Euro 0.35

Total Noro-Slav: 5.52% (obviously as I have no roots at all in North/East Europe).

On the Other hand my West European percentage (West Med+Atlantic) is 30.67%.

Impaler
07-10-2018, 01:55 PM
North Sea: 17.66
Baltic: 14.76
Eastern_Euro: 3.94

Total: 36.36

oszkar07
07-10-2018, 01:56 PM
It peaks in Chuvash, Turkic people. I think Baltic + North Sea would've been more accurate but it's your thread.

East Euro is typically high in Slavs even if it has some peak in Chuvash.
Chuvash are probably mixed people as East Euro does not usually appear high in Turkic populations.

Jana
07-10-2018, 02:02 PM
North_Sea 27.56
Baltic 20.73
Eastern_Euro 11.21

Kaspias
07-10-2018, 02:07 PM
North_Sea 12.31
Eastern_Euro 11.83
Baltic 8.42

Half south slav half balkan turk. Is it accurate for my ancestry?

Rius
07-10-2018, 02:10 PM
North_Sea -
Atlantic 9.89 Pct
Baltic 8.53 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.13 Pct
West_Med 5.92 Pct

Aren
07-10-2018, 02:13 PM
East Euro is typically high in Slavs even if it has some peak in Chuvash.
Chuvash are probably mixed people as East Euro does not usually appear high in Turkic populations.

Atlantic is even higher in Scandinavia than East Euro in Slavs. Uralics have significantly higher East Euro than Slavs.
Including Atlantic in Nordic would make more sense.

RandomGuy20
07-10-2018, 02:24 PM
North_Sea 26.63
Baltic 19.61
Eastern_Euro 16.12

Moje ime
07-10-2018, 02:27 PM
North_Sea 19.29
Baltic 18.62
Eastern_Euro 9.03

Total: 47

magicalM
07-10-2018, 06:31 PM
North sea 29.36
Baltic15.02
Eastern_Euro13.76

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oszkar07
07-10-2018, 09:13 PM
Atlantic is even higher in Scandinavia than East Euro in Slavs. Uralics have significantly higher East Euro than Slavs.
Including Atlantic in Nordic would make more sense.

Thats possibly also why Chuvash might score high, they most likely are a Turkic-Uralic-Slav mix.

DarkWater
07-10-2018, 09:18 PM
North Sea 30.35%
East Euro 10.53%
Baltic 9.02%

"North Europe" 49.9%

oszkar07
07-10-2018, 09:20 PM
North_Sea 27.56
Baltic 20.73
Eastern_Euro 11.21

Interesting calculator, you get more North Sea than me, and I get more East Euro than you.

someonenotyou
07-10-2018, 11:44 PM
1 North_Sea 23.78
2 West_Med 15.61
3 Atlantic 14.75
4 Eastern_Euro 14.01
5 Baltic 13.72
6 West_Asian 9.48
7 East_Med 5.77
8 South_Asian 2.09

Total: 51.51

King Niko
07-10-2018, 11:48 PM
https://soundcloud.com/nikoasdzn/nizma-forever that is mine

paradox
07-11-2018, 04:56 AM
North sea 11.98
Baltic 13.45
Eastern Euro 8.61

Total 34.04


Father's

North sea 16.16
Baltic 15.22
Eastern Euro 8.92

Total 40.30

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oszkar07
07-11-2018, 09:40 AM
1 North_Sea 23.78
2 West_Med 15.61
3 Atlantic 14.75
4 Eastern_Euro 14.01
5 Baltic 13.72
6 West_Asian 9.48
7 East_Med 5.77
8 South_Asian 2.09

Total: 51.51

I am half British and on thic calculator I get same North Sea amount as full Hungarian.

oszkar07
07-11-2018, 09:41 AM
North sea 11.98
Baltic 13.45
Eastern Euro 8.61

Total 34.04


Father's

North sea 16.16
Baltic 15.22
Eastern Euro 8.92

Total 40.30

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Your North sea is quite low, what is your background.

Lehel
07-11-2018, 11:36 AM
Baltic 22.18
North_Sea 20.05
Eastern_Euro 10.12

52.35

paradox
07-11-2018, 01:40 PM
Your North sea is quite low, what is your background.It's low because my mum's from Crete. My dad is from Macedonia.

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Bosniensis
07-11-2018, 02:43 PM
As in the sum of North Sea+ East Euro+Baltic.

I got 12.5% North Sea+ 4.51% Baltic+ 3.96%East Euro=20.97%

I got 16.37% North Sea + 17.93 Baltic + 13.35 East Euro= 47,65%

It's amazing you have that much (20,97)

Annie999
07-11-2018, 03:02 PM
North Sea 18.52
East Euro 7.01
Baltic. 1.68

Total: 27.21%

Dibran
07-11-2018, 03:12 PM
North_Sea 13.76
Baltic 9.34
Eastern_Euro 6.71 = 29.81

someonenotyou
07-11-2018, 05:27 PM
I am half British and on thic calculator I get same North Sea amount as full Hungarian.

I mean the average for Hungarians is 24.08. Baltic average is 20.04 and Eastern Europe is 12.73.

So about 56 is the average total for Hungarians.

Freeroostah
07-11-2018, 05:30 PM
North_Sea 8.73
Baltic 13.09
Eastern_Euro 8.37

Total: 30.19

oszkar07
07-11-2018, 09:25 PM
I mean the average for Hungarians is 24.08. Baltic average is 20.04 and Eastern Europe is 12.73.

So about 56 is the average total for Hungarians.

I am close to these averages with my East Euro just a little over at 13.33,North Sea fits at 24.02, and Baltic 16.81 just a little under, but my Atlantic score as influenced from British side is higher at 27 than Hun avg of 17.29, thats why the single oracle models me as Austrian in 1st position and I get Hungarian in 5th position.

Voskos
07-12-2018, 10:19 PM
I got 16.37% North Sea + 17.93 Baltic + 13.35 East Euro= 47,65%

It's amazing you have that much (20,97)

i have some croat matches(dna relatives) and some poles, but no serbs, bulgarians or albanians.strange isnt it?

Dick
07-12-2018, 10:34 PM
i have some croat matches(dna relatives) and some poles, but no serbs, bulgarians or albanians.strange isnt it?

I have more Croat matches than Serbs. Luckily I'm not related to Bosniensis

Voskos
07-12-2018, 10:38 PM
I have more Croat matches than Serbs. Luckily I'm not related to Bosniensis

Bosniensis is half Russian, half Cypriot and half Albanian.

Bosniensis
07-12-2018, 10:45 PM
Bosniensis is half Russian, half Cypriot and half Albanian.

that's 1,5 man xD

Bosniensis
07-12-2018, 10:47 PM
I have more Croat matches than Serbs. Luckily I'm not related to Bosniensis

I have more Montenegrin matches, than Serbian matches :P

Dick
07-12-2018, 10:51 PM
I have more Montenegrin matches, than Serbian matches :P

Your sperm has 4 CCCC's written on them

Bosniensis
07-12-2018, 10:53 PM
Your sperm has 4 CCCC's written on them

This one?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Coat_of_arms_of_the_Socialist_Republic_of_Serbia.p ng

Dick
07-12-2018, 10:57 PM
This one?

This xD

https://www.malasrpskaprodavnica.com/user/include/etno/images/items/crnogorska_kapa_4s.jpg

Bosniensis
07-12-2018, 11:00 PM
This xD

https://www.malasrpskaprodavnica.com/user/include/etno/images/items/crnogorska_kapa_4s.jpg

This?

https://www.srbijadanas.com/sites/default/files/16639/ahil-4s.jpg

Dibran
07-13-2018, 06:08 PM
Don’t encourage him Dick. Now he’ll say Achilles was Serbian. Lol

Voskos
07-13-2018, 06:09 PM
Don’t encourage him Dick. Now he’ll say Achilles was Serbian. Lol

maybe he just bought his skirt from ancient serbian fashion designers.

Dibran
07-13-2018, 06:19 PM
maybe he just bought his skirt from ancient serbian fashion designers.

Or he forgets those symbols were orthodox and inherited from Byzantine Greeks.

DontFxxkWithWendy
07-13-2018, 06:32 PM
North Sea - 28.59
Baltic - 10.74
Eastern European - 5.2

Krivich
07-15-2018, 06:48 PM
North_Sea 23.83
Baltic 27.47
Eastern_Euro 22.65

Total: 73,95

Deniz
07-16-2018, 08:42 AM
Me
Baltic 14.85
Eastern Euro 11.96
North Sea 7.88

Father
Baltic 14.96
Eastern Euro 13.26
North Sea 8.85

Mother
Baltic 14.53
Eastern Euro 9.35
North Sea 11.18

Grandfather

Baltic 15.63
Eastern Euro 10.18
North Sea 10.74

Helen
08-26-2019, 10:33 PM
North_Sea 16.49%
Baltic 5.49%
Eastern_Euro 2.67%

24.65

Celestia
08-26-2019, 10:41 PM
North Sea: 33.80
Baltic: 10.34
East Europe: 7.78

Total: 51.88

Impaler
08-26-2019, 10:41 PM
North_Sea 17.64
Baltic 14.75
Eastern_Euro 3.95

= 36.34%

Nurzat
08-26-2019, 10:53 PM
20.54% Baltic
16.41% North_Sea
15.30% Eastern_Euro

52.25%

Kyp
08-26-2019, 10:54 PM
North_Sea 12.95
Baltic 12.55
Eastern_Euro 6.86

Total: 32.36

Annihilus
08-26-2019, 10:59 PM
4 Baltic 9.84
5 North_Sea 9.76
6 Eastern_Euro 8.78

= 28.38%

Jägerstaffel
08-26-2019, 11:01 PM
North Sea: 31.22 Pct
Baltic: 11.59 Pct
East Euro: 9.78 Pct
Total: 52.59 Pct

michal3141
08-26-2019, 11:02 PM
North Sea 22.14%
Baltic 25.82%
Eastern European 22.93%
Total: 70.89%

This is the result using yourDNAportal, the results I previously posted were by using Gedmatch

Javiberius
08-26-2019, 11:14 PM
North_Sea 17.16
Baltic 7.81
Eastern_Euro 3

Total= 27.97

Pedro Ruben
08-27-2019, 12:11 AM
North Sea: 19.74
Baltic: 6.45
Eastern Europe: 3.84

Total: 30.03

frankhammer
08-27-2019, 12:15 AM
North_Sea 36.15
Baltic 10.55
Eastern_Euro 10.32

57.02%

Rædwald
08-27-2019, 01:57 AM
AncestryDNA

Population

North_Sea 34.00 Pct
Baltic 10.98 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.49 Pct

Total: 53.47

23andMe

Population

North_Sea 34.48 Pct
Baltic 10.51 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.73 Pct

Total: 53.72

Consistency between the two tests here.

Decius
08-27-2019, 02:36 AM
Population
North_Sea 12.62 Pct
Baltic 17.12 Pct
Eastern_Euro 15.83 Pct

Total = 45.57%

altaic
08-27-2019, 03:54 AM
Baltic 5.95
Eastern_Euro 5.37
North_Sea 3.81
=15.13%

Daco Celtic
08-27-2019, 03:59 AM
North_Sea 27.43 Pct
Baltic 11.74 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.17 Pct

= 44.34

Cumansky
08-27-2019, 04:17 AM
Lithuanian

North_Sea 16.93 Pct
Atlantic 15.99 Pct
Baltic 37.28 Pct
Eastern_Euro 28.09 Pct
West_Med 0.05 Pct
West_Asian 0.86 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.25 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.49 Pct
Amerindian 0.06 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Nurzat
08-28-2019, 05:38 PM
interesting how north Balkanites seem to score similar to Brits (around 50%) on this combination (North_Sea + Baltic + Eastern_Euro).

but this doesn't add Atlantic - where does that component peak and is it real Atlantic/PaleoEuropean (WHG rich) or is it Mesopotamian/Mediterranean (Natufian) in essence?

Dušan
08-28-2019, 05:42 PM
Baltic 21.52
Eastern_Euro 14.78
North_Sea 14.53

= 50.83%

farke1
08-28-2019, 05:48 PM
North_Sea 39.90 Pct
Baltic 12.33 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.66 Pct

= 59.89%

Nurzat
08-28-2019, 06:08 PM
Romanian friend #1 (ancestry: 1/2 Botosani and 1/2 Iasi county, Moldova region)

North_Sea 17.64 Pct
Baltic 22.01 Pct
Eastern_Euro 14.53 Pct
=54.18%



Romanian friend #2 (ancestry Neamt county, Moldova region)

North_Sea 11.02 Pct
Baltic 19.25 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.55 Pct
=41.82%


Romanian friend #3 (ancestry Vaslui county, Moldova region)

North_Sea 16.07 Pct
Baltic 16.38 Pct
Eastern_Euro 14.28 Pct
=46.73%


I already suspected the mountain region of Moldova seems has less Slavic ancestry than what's East of river Siret.

West of Siret river is more Vlach (Vlachs anyway came from the West across the Carpathians into Moldova, not from the South)

Kaspias
08-28-2019, 06:28 PM
North_Sea 14.77 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.20 Pct
Baltic 10.08 Pct

=37.05

Rgvgjhvv
08-28-2019, 06:31 PM
As in the sum of North Sea+ East Euro+Baltic.

I got 12.5% North Sea+ 4.51% Baltic+ 3.96%East Euro=20.97%

5 Baltic 9.18
6 North_Sea 8.33
7 Eastern_Euro 4.05

Total = 21.56%

Pine
08-28-2019, 06:44 PM
Baltic 2.75 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.26 Pct
North_Sea 8.16 Pct

Total = 14.17

Does anyone get higher than that?

Yamnaya
09-03-2019, 01:05 AM
Baltic 2.75 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.26 Pct
North_Sea 8.16 Pct

Total = 14.17

Does anyone get higher than that?


1 Baltic 28.19
2 Eastern_Euro 25.65
3 North_Sea 14.66

nittionia
09-03-2019, 01:09 AM
55.12

WhatsGoingOnBigGuy
09-03-2019, 01:39 AM
North Sea: 25.58%
Baltic: 15.22%
East Euro: 13.12%

Total = 53.92% nordic-slavic

noricum
09-06-2019, 03:13 PM
North_Sea 21.28
Baltic 21.04
Eastern_Euro 14.07

Total 56,39

Benyzero
09-06-2019, 03:21 PM
22.70% North sea
18.06% Baltic
14.22%Eastern euro

Daos777
09-06-2019, 03:34 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1North_Sea23.65
2Baltic23.64
3Eastern_Euro17.30

% 64.59


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8.330498
2 Ukrainian @ 8.795985
3 Moldavian @ 8.897069
4 Hungarian @ 10.752459
5 South_Polish @ 10.835174
6 Croatian @ 11.079168
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 13.657881
8 Polish @ 13.670513
9 Southwest_Russian @ 13.874667
10 Russian_Smolensk @ 15.022734
11 Serbian @ 15.706555
12 Finnish @ 15.885118
13 Estonian @ 15.895336
14 Kargopol_Russian @ 15.984681
15 East_German @ 16.048927
16 Belorussian @ 16.170984
17 East_Finnish @ 16.191256
18 Austrian @ 16.541080
19 Estonian_Polish @ 16.541687
20 Erzya @ 17.516050

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +50% Ukrainian @ 6.952179


^^^^^ one of the more accurate calcs for me.



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RenaRyuguu
09-06-2019, 03:38 PM
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 19.25
2 North_Sea 18.19
3 Baltic 17.02
4 East_Med 12.51
5 West_Med 11.25
6 West_Asian 10.62
7 Eastern_Euro 10.52
8 Red_Sea 0.44
9 Oceanian 0.14
10 Amerindian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.18
2 Romanian 4.5
3 Bulgarian 7.03
4 Austrian 7.88
5 Moldavian 8.85
6 Hungarian 8.97
7 Croatian 9.18
8 East_German 12.34
9 Greek_Thessaly 14.59
10 Greek 15.07
11 North_Italian 15.34
12 South_Polish 15.46
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.54
14 South_Dutch 15.8
15 French 15.8
16 Tuscan 16.27
17 Ukrainian 16.47
18 West_German 16.58
19 Spanish_Cataluna 17.87
20 Polish 17.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Bulgarian + 26.9% North_German @ 2.17
2 65.9% Romanian + 34.1% Austrian @ 2.24
3 53.2% Bulgarian + 46.8% Austrian @ 2.43
4 76.4% Bulgarian + 23.6% Danish @ 2.44
5 64.8% Bulgarian + 35.2% East_German @ 2.5
6 83% Romanian + 17% North_German @ 2.55
7 76.8% Bulgarian + 23.2% North_Dutch @ 2.57
8 77.4% Bulgarian + 22.6% Swedish @ 2.58
9 77.9% Bulgarian + 22.1% Norwegian @ 2.7
10 86.2% Romanian + 13.8% Irish @ 2.71
11 77.6% Bulgarian + 22.4% Irish @ 2.71
12 77.1% Romanian + 22.9% East_German @ 2.73
13 78.2% Bulgarian + 21.8% West_Scottish @ 2.73
14 85.6% Romanian + 14.4% Danish @ 2.73
15 77.1% Bulgarian + 22.9% North_Swedish @ 2.74
16 86.7% Romanian + 13.3% West_Scottish @ 2.76
17 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% West_Norwegian @ 2.8
18 85.8% Romanian + 14.2% Southeast_English @ 2.81
19 86% Romanian + 14% North_Dutch @ 2.82
20 86% Romanian + 14% Southwest_English @ 2.97

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 4.756408
2 Romanian @ 5.148411
3 Bulgarian @ 8.152845
4 Austrian @ 9.221673
5 Moldavian @ 10.298692
6 Hungarian @ 10.474629
7 Croatian @ 10.697788
8 East_German @ 14.548725
9 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.890724
10 North_Italian @ 17.428370
11 Greek @ 17.561541
12 South_Polish @ 17.968487
13 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 18.050241
14 French @ 18.334251
15 South_Dutch @ 18.492964
16 Tuscan @ 18.607428
17 Ukrainian @ 19.171673
18 West_German @ 19.408829
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 20.530905
20 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.539444

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian +50% Bulgarian @ 2.807482

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Bulgarian +25% North_German @ 2.433410


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bulgarian + Croatian + Greek + North_German @ 2.350485
2 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + North_German @ 2.433410
3 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + North_German + Romanian @ 2.436501
4 Greek + Greek + Irish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.513041
5 Bulgarian + North_German + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian @ 2.587199
6 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + North_German + Russian_Smolensk @ 2.604965
7 Greek + Greek + North_German + South_Polish @ 2.608292
8 Greek + Greek + North_Dutch + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.612497
9 Bulgarian + North_German + South_Italian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.615516
10 Greek + Greek + North_German + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.626134
11 Greek + Greek + North_German + Russian_Smolensk @ 2.645801
12 Bulgarian + Greek + Moldavian + North_German @ 2.651418
13 Greek + Greek + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_Scottish @ 2.688999
14 Austrian + Romanian + Romanian + Romanian @ 2.717580
15 Croatian + Greek + North_German + Romanian @ 2.724091
16 Greek + Greek + North_Dutch + Russian_Smolensk @ 2.727889
17 Austrian + Italian_Abruzzo + Romanian + South_Polish @ 2.740540
18 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Danish @ 2.741683
19 Bulgarian + North_German + South_Italian + Southwest_Russian @ 2.745321
20 Greek + Greek + Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.757156

Daos777
09-06-2019, 04:06 PM
Baltic2.75 Pct
Eastern_Euro3.26 Pct
North_Sea8.16 Pct

Total = 14.17

Does anyone get higher than that?

Everyone gets higher than that lol


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bained
09-06-2019, 06:13 PM
North_Sea 14.53 Pct
Baltic 14.23 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.53 Pct

Total: 37.29%

Ford
09-06-2019, 06:21 PM
North_Sea 19.65
Baltic 21.42
Eastern_Euro 12.87

Total 53.94

Gaditanian
09-06-2019, 06:33 PM
North_Sea 11.06 Pct
Baltic 3.13 Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.96 Pct

Total

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Daos777
09-07-2019, 01:57 AM
Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1North_Sea23.65
2Baltic23.64
3Eastern_Euro17.30

% 64.59


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8.330498
2 Ukrainian @ 8.795985
3 Moldavian @ 8.897069
4 Hungarian @ 10.752459
5 South_Polish @ 10.835174
6 Croatian @ 11.079168
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 13.657881
8 Polish @ 13.670513
9 Southwest_Russian @ 13.874667
10 Russian_Smolensk @ 15.022734
11 Serbian @ 15.706555
12 Finnish @ 15.885118
13 Estonian @ 15.895336
14 Kargopol_Russian @ 15.984681
15 East_German @ 16.048927
16 Belorussian @ 16.170984
17 East_Finnish @ 16.191256
18 Austrian @ 16.541080
19 Estonian_Polish @ 16.541687
20 Erzya @ 17.516050

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +50% Ukrainian @ 6.952179


^^^^^ one of the more accurate calcs for me.



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Am I the highest one that is not from one of the Baltic countries?


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Grace O'Malley
09-07-2019, 02:04 AM
I'm Insular Celt.

North_Sea 36.89
Baltic 11.78
Eastern_Euro 9.12

57.79

**JC**
09-07-2019, 11:31 AM
North Sea 34.07%
Baltic 13.47%
Eastern European 8.66%

56.2%

My mum's
North Sea 37.03%
Baltic 10.64%
Eastern European 8.75%

56.42%

Yamnaya
09-07-2019, 11:51 AM
Am I the highest one that is not from one of the Baltic countries?


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Leto scored like 75%, hes russian

Videx
09-07-2019, 12:34 PM
North_Sea 22.70 %
Baltic 16.83 %
Eastern_Euro 16.43 %

55,96

CommonSense
09-07-2019, 01:31 PM
North_Sea 20.46
Baltic 17.32
Eastern_Euro 12.66

50.44