Would this octoroon Brazilian(Franciele Almeida) be considered black in Europe/USA?

[Heather Duval]

According to user Marcus Garvey, shes light skinned black in Sweden :lol:

http://i0.statig.com.br/bancodeimagens/c5/3r/38/c53r38bb7z3z39gvyhzgbt67e.jpg
http://www.ibahia.com/fileadmin/ibahia/F/2014/Franciele%20Almeida.jpg
http://s2.glbimg.com/uMBazq1DxZmO6whbsNV0kvpu61k=/s.glbimg.com/og/rg/f/original/2014/01/28/606fran2.jpg
https://extra.globo.com/incoming/11851837-f5c-79a/w448/franaaaaaaa.jpg
http://i0.statig.com.br/bancodeimagens/6q/ii/ch/6qiichtci1xwhqmr4g6sd4u9q.jpg


That bitch looks like she could be even Sara Sampaio sister.

[Heather Duval]

Sara Sampaio
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Sara+Sampaio+Clapper+Premiere+2017+Tribeca+-JFe2M1T9Enl.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1c/9a/a4/1c9aa4a76c7adc85706db1163fbc3681--sara-sampaio-full-lips.jpg
https://wwwimage-secure.cbsstatic.com/base/files/cast/sara-sampaio-.jpg

[skain]

If she is Black in Europe, Sara Sampaio is Black too.

[Black Panther]

One of them clearly looks Black-admixed, the other one just looks exoticly White.

[Heather Duval]

If she is Black in Europe, Sara Sampaio is Black too.

In my world, light skinned black women are: Beyoncé, Taís Araújo, Rihanna, Raven-Symoné...

[Heather Duval]

People like her are what we call "light-skinned" Blacks here.

[skain]

In my world, light skinned black women are: Beyoncé, Taís Araújo, Rihanna, Raven-Symoné...

They look sister. Lol.

[Heather Duval]

They look sister. Lol.

Indeed.

[Heather Duval]

LOL Marcus claiming white looking women just makes shits more and more dificult for black women

[Kriptc06]

No. not really, will likely be latina in the US, or maybe even white passing (depends)

For europe, europeans generaly don't care, they hate everyone equally (or like depends on the country) :)

[Heather Duval]

No. not really, will likely be latina in the US, or maybe even white passing (depends)

In Brazil shes white.

[skain]

LOL Marcus claiming white looking women just makes shits more and more dificult for black women
"We are all black" unless I to be too dark for this.

[Heather Duval]

"We are all black" unless I to be too dark for this.

and media loves white looking "black women" over black women
marcus loves as well
marcus will be dating one and say " lookg my wife is black"

[Black Panther]

No. not really, will likely be latina in the US, or maybe even white passing (depends)

For europe, europeans generaly don't care, they hate everyone equally (or like depends on the country) :)

LOL. Niggas have been called Black here just by stating they were from Brazil. Let alone a bitch that actually looks Black-admixed.

[Smaug]

Pardas.

[Kriptc06]

In Brazil shes white.

https://www.isinonimos.com.br/fotos/okay/tb/okay_1.jpg

[skain]

No. not really, will likely be latina in the US, or maybe even white passing (depends)

For europe, europeans generaly don't care, they hate everyone equally (or like depends on the country) :)

In usa she Will be white. Theres a Lot of cubans like her in Florida.

[skain]

and media loves white looking "black women" over black women
marcus loves as well
marcus will be dating one and say " lookg my wife is black"

Yep. They love the curly but hates the nappy.

[Black Panther]

and media loves white looking "black women" over black women
marcus loves as well
marcus will be dating one and say " lookg my wife is black"

Lol. I'm more into women within quadroon and mulatta range. I also think representation should be proportional, so of course, there shouldn't be too many light-skinned Black women representing Black women as a whole.

[Kriptc06]

LOL. Niggas have been called Black here just by stating they were from Brazil. Let alone a bitch that actually looks Black-admixed.

I didnt say she wasnt black admixed, Just like I said in the other thread, I can notice a bit in her features, but for me it's pretty small to be considered black, at least for me, If in sweden it's different than eh ok, I dont live there so I cant know

[Kriptc06]

In usa she Will be white. Theres a Lot of cubans like her in Florida.

bro you love to quote my posts to agree with me, :cool:

[Black Panther]

I didnt say she wasnt black admixed, Just like I said in the other thread, I can notice a bit in her features, but for me it's pretty small to be considered black, at least for me, If in sweden it's different than eh ok, I dont live there so I cant know

I don't see her as Black either, but White societies do. For me, Black is usually at least 15-20% SSA.

[Black Panther]

In usa she Will be white. Theres a Lot of cubans like her in Florida.

Florida is Latino land. It's not America anymore.

[Heather Duval]

I don't see her as Black either, but White societies do. For me, Black is usually at least 15-20% SSA.

Nope. I bet my ass people in your country would guess her as Southern European. Her black traits isnt that visible to non Anthro retards notice.

[Smeagol]

In usa she Will be white.

No she would not be.

[Heather Duval]

No she would not be.

Black? :lol:

[Dandelion]

She wouldn't be considered black, but just mixed.

[skain]

No she would not be.

As latino standard.

[Black Panther]

Nope. I bet my ass people in your country would guess her as Southern European. Her black traits isnt that visible to non Anthro retards notice.

Ok. Ask ethnic Swedes what they think she is.

[Kriptc06]

Nope. I bet my ass people in your country would guess her as Southern European. Her black traits isnt that visible to non Anthro retards notice.

I feel flattered to receive such tittle;

[Heather Duval]

Pardas.

Sara is Portuguese...

[Black Panther]

She wouldn't be considered black, but just mixed.

Mixed = Black. At least here.

[Meerkat]

She'd be considered white passing by US standards.

[Kriptc06]

No she would not be.

what is your opinion on the portuguese OP said its similar to her?

[skain]

She wouldn't be considered black, but just mixed.

She could be morrocan in belgium?

[Heather Duval]

I feel flattered to receive such tittle;

Same way Angelina Jolie was classificated as Octoroon by some users on this forum because her Big lips. IRL everyone knows shes just white.

[Smeagol]

Black? :lol:

More likely she'd be seen by the general public as ''hispanic.''

[skain]

More likely she'd be seen by the general public as ''hispanic.''

Cubans whites are seen as hispanics in USA?

[Smaug]

Sara is Portuguese...

Clear Negroid admixture.

[Kriptc06]

Cubans whites are seen as hispanics in USA?

yes, most of the time, it's not so much about race but about origin and background

[Smeagol]

what is your opinion on the portuguese OP said its similar to her?

Looking her up, she seems white in some pictures, and ''exotic'' in others. I wonder if she has some non-Portuguese ancestry.

[Black Panther]

She could be morrocan in belgium?

Large % of Morrocans are Black themselves... :picard2:

[Dandelion]

Mixed = Black. At least here.

Not here, at least I don't do it. At least two celebs here are half-Congolese and never considered black. Biracial is even more black than octoroon.

Leki

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Leki_%282014%29.jpg/800px-Leki_%282014%29.jpg

Stromae (half-Ruandan)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Stromae_2011.jpg

They don't look 100% black, so it's hard to see them as anything else than mixed.

However, they are mentioned as having roots in the Congo and Rwana and attention is given to that detail. We often call it 'with Congolese/Rwandese roots' without black or white which are terms that are very avoided (not unused, but you rarely hear it). Perhaps I'm wrong. I dunno.

[Black Panther]

Not here, at least I don't do it. At least two celebs here are half-Congolese and never considered black. Biracial is even more black than octoroon.

Leki

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Leki_%282014%29.jpg/800px-Leki_%282014%29.jpg

Stromae (half-Ruandan)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Stromae_2011.jpg

They don't look 100% black, so it's hard to see them as anything else than mixed.

However, they are mentioned as having roots in the Congo and Rwana and attention is given to that detail. We often call it 'with Congolese/Rwandese roots' without black or white which are terms that are very avoided (not unused, but you rarely hear it). Perhaps I'm wrong. I dunno.

Media is not the same as real life. Society is way different than the mediatic world.

[Dandelion]

Media is not the same as real life. Society is way different than the mediatic world.

Then I'd say, living rooms are different and also highly dependant on social class and upbringing. Overall, I'd say Belgium still is less race-obsessed than Sweden or the US. But I believe it's because we're post-Catholic rather than Protestant. But you are right, full acceptance of non-whites isn't a fact here neither, because human nature is divisive. Still, we have less of a chip on our shoulder I still believe.

[QUICAS]

She is probably quadroon, no?

[QUICAS]

Octoroons look even like Karina Bacchi

[skain]

Octoroons look even like Karina Bacchi

This woman is not octoroon.

[QUICAS]

She is

[skain]

She is

You think that Fran is quadroon and Karina is octoroon. Lol you are blind.

[Black Panther]

Then I'd say, living rooms are different and also highly dependant on social class and upbringing. Overall, I'd say Belgium still is less race-obsessed than Sweden or the US. But I believe it's because we're post-Catholic rather than Protestant. But you are right, full acceptance of non-whites isn't a fact here neither, because human nature is divisive. Still, we have less of a chip on our shoulder I still believe.

The only people who call me "latino" in Sweden are the Asians for some weird reason. Even (mestizo/white) latinos don't consider me one of theirs, haha.

[Heather Duval]

Octoroons look even like Karina Bacchi

Grazi Massafera is octoron

[QUICAS]

You think that Fran is quadroon and Karina is octoroon. Lol you are blind.

Or maybe you are

[skain]

Or maybe you are

Nope you are. I really doubt that Karina is octoroon her parents dont show ssa traits.

[Heather Duval]

Nope you are. I really doubt that Karina is octoroon her parents dont show ssa traits.

some traits can drop generations

shes part black

"Descendente de italianos, africanos e espanhóis,"
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karina_Bacchi

[skain]

some traits can drop generations

shes part black

"Descendente de italianos, africanos e espanhóis,"
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karina_Bacchi

Ela só disse que a bisavó dela era mulata o que faz um dos pais dela ser octoroon. Então Karina é menos de 10% ssa.

[MysteriousWays]

Considered "Latina" here I think. Neither white not black

[Maintenance]

Not black in sweden

[Heather Duval]

Not black in sweden

but marcus says so...
:lol:
anyway, youd people there guess her as southern european?

[Maintenance]

but marcus says so...
:lol:
anyway, youd people there guess her as southern european?

Not really, she looks latin american but not black

[Black Panther]

Not really, she looks latin american but not black

So what you are saying is that octoroons look Mestizo/Castizo? LOL.

[Heather Duval]

So what you are saying is that octoroons look Mestizo/Castizo? LOL.

Latino means someone mixed from Latin America, duh. A lot of people in Mexico scores SSA but dont look black. Latinos have black blood, BIG SURPRISED!

[skain]

Latino means someone mixed from Latin America, duh. A lot of people in Mexico scores SSA but dont look black. Latinos have black blood, BIG SURPRISED!

Jennifer Lopez is not latina, she is black.

[Black Panther]

Jennifer Lopez is not latina, she is black.

Exactly.

[Heather Duval]

Exactly.

He was being ironic. Btw.

[Black Panther]

He was being ironic. Btw.

I was just playing along. I know he thinks even Dominicans are "latinos", :rolleyes:

[Heather Duval]

I was just playing along. I know he thinks even Dominicans are "latinos", :rolleyes:

They are. Jennifer lopez aint considered black even tho she and 99% of Puerto Rico are mixed with negroes.

[Marinus]

In the UK atleast, she might be associated with "Caribbean" (esp. Jamaica) descent, light brown skin is usually labelled as half-black or mixed. She could just call herself white or black and nobody would really give a toss to be honest.

The closest ethnicity that looks like her in the UK are people with with mixed Afro-Caribbean-British parents, think Lewis Hamilton or Jessica Ennis. (although she's lighter than them)

[skain]

I was just playing along. I know he thinks even Dominicans are "latinos", :rolleyes:

They are latinos because they from latin America.

[Black Panther]

They are latinos because they from latin America.

"Latinos". For me, Latinos are Mestizos only.

[skain]

"Latinos". For me, Latinos are Mestizos only.

For me are south euro latinos.

[Xacal]

Latina

[Black Panther]

For me are south euro latinos.

I associate majorities with terms designated to them, so when people say American, I think it is meant for White people. When people say latino, I think of Mestizos because they are the majority in Latin America, and so forth.

[skain]

I associate majorities with terms designated to them, so when people say American, I think it is meant for White people. When people say latino, I think of Mestizos because they are the majority in Latin America, and so forth.

I think people overestimate mestizos in latin america. Majority of latin American people are tri racial.

[Black Panther]

I think people overestimate mestizos in latin america. Majority of latin American people are tri racial.

Genetically, sure. But in most countries, native is much stronger than SSA so they tend to lean towards mestizo. Only Brazil, the Carribean, Venezuela and the Carribean tell a different story.

[skain]

Genetically, sure. But in most countries, native is much stronger than SSA so they tend to lean towards mestizo. Only Brazil, the Carribean, Venezuela and the Carribean tell a different story.

Yep. But a Lot central American countries are Very ssa like Panamá and Nicarágua. Plus Colombia. I think ALL theese countries are more than 10% ssa in average.

[Black Panther]

Yep. But a Lot central American countries are Very ssa like Panamá and Nicarágua. Plus Colombia. I think ALL theese countries are more than 10% ssa in average.

I was going to say Panama too, but I ended up repeating Carribean in my post, lol.

[Sikeliot]

In the US no. She looks south Asian to me.

[skain]

Her parents http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ldUQRR_nISg/U-V-W_TSh5I/AAAAAAAAB6c/wZ2sRbEF_VE/s1600/10513722_799076490142543_589485875_n.jpg

[Odin]

Nope.

[skain]

Bump

[Rouxinol]

I don’t think she’d be considered black. However you can see the blackness in her when she smiles. Only anthro geeks will notice it I guess.

[Xacal]

nope, Latina

[CYKA]

Prolly would be pegged as latino or brazilian

[Xacal]

Prolly would be pegged as latino or brazilian

Brazilians are Latinos

[CYKA]

Many brazilians in US reject the label just as hatians do

[Xacal]

Many brazilians in US reject the label just as hatians do
Yes, because brazilians are racists

[skain]

Yes, because brazilians are racists

Just because they do not consider themselves Latinos? Latino in the USA means mixed. So someone who is not a mixed should identify himself as a Latino?

[Randulf]

not in U.S. We got the real thing round here

[Xacal]

Just because they do not consider themselves Latinos? Latino in the USA means mixed. So someone who is not a mixed should identify himself as a Latino.

os brasileiros nao querem ser considerados latinos pq a maioria dos latinos nos usa sao mestizos/indo-mestizos.
vejo muito brasileiro falando q nao se considera latino pq nao eh indigena, pq nao tem cara de mexicano etc.

[skain]

os brasileiros nao querem ser considerados latinos pq a maioria dos latinos nos usa sao mestizos/indo-mestizos.
vejo muito brasileiro falando q nao se considera latino pq nao eh indigena, pq nao tem cara de mexicano etc.
It makes no sense. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are considered Latinos as well.

[Xacal]

It makes no sense. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are considered Latinos as well.

talvez nao sejam tao racistas q nem os brazucas

[skain]

talvez nao sejam tao racistas q nem os brazucas

In the case of Brazilians, they do not want to consider themselves Latinos because they want to feel superior to other Latinos.

[CYKA]

It makes no sense. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are considered Latinos as well.
Actually in NY if you say 'latino' as a description they think mexican. If you say 'spanish' they think PR/dominican

[Morena]

The first, Franciele Almeida, could pass as white if she wanted. I doubt she's a true octaroon. Years past, she would be the type to claim Italian or Portuguese descent. The second, Sara Sampaio, would be considered black. The shape of her face, lips, and nose are too SSA influenced for her to pass. She would definitely cause people to do a double take though.

[skain]

The first, Franciele Almeida, could pass as white if she wanted. I doubt she's a true octaroon. Years past, she would be the type to claim Italian or Portuguese descent. The second, Sara Sampaio, would be considered black. The shape of her face, lips, and nose are too SSA influenced for her to pass. She would definitely cause people to do a double take though.

She would passes as white cuban?

[Iloko]

I think she'd be considered Latina

[Morena]

She would passes as white cuban?

The first? Absolutely. But Sara? Hrm. I don't know. I don't think so. She's too obviously mixed. I think she'd be a mulatta.

[Zuh]

Latino means someone mixed from Latin America, duh. A lot of people in Mexico scores SSA but dont look black. Latinos have black blood, BIG SURPRISED!

Right in Mexico people are believed to be a product just of white and Amerindian if you tell them they have SSA im sure they would react negative the SSA in Mexico is almost none existing!!



http://i.imgur.com/aO03Hdr.png

Mexicans.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0ffa2a0358142b3b1756e42970106765

[skain]

The first? Absolutely. But Sara? Hrm. I don't know. I don't think so. She's too obviously mixed. I think she'd be a mulatta.

Sara is Full Portuguese. I think her lips are filling.

[Morena]

Sara is Full Portuguese. I think her lips are filling.

Pft. there is some black in that woodpile or I'm Minnie Mouse. As my mother would say, alli un gato se colo.

[skain]

Pft. there is some black in that woodpile or I'm Minnie Mouse. As my mother would say, alli un gato se colo.

Perhaps. Just a DNA test to know.

[Morena]

Perhaps. Just a DNA test to know.

I would be curious to see her score, yes. I'm willing to say that she is a very exotic looking white person. But I would be surprised if it were so.

[Heather Duval]

The first, Franciele Almeida, could pass as white if she wanted. I doubt she's a true octaroon. Years past, she would be the type to claim Italian or Portuguese descent. The second, Sara Sampaio, would be considered black. The shape of her face, lips, and nose are too SSA influenced for her to pass. She would definitely cause people to do a double take though.

Plentys octoroons are white passing. Good exemple is this Cuban

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?248565-Classify-octoroon

[Morena]

Plentys octoroons are white passing. Good exemple is this Cuban

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?248565-Classify-octoroon

I never said otherwise. although that woman doesn't look white.




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[Morena]

Franciele is visible mixed, while Sara is not. Apricity ...

https://cdn.flash.pt/images/2017-03/img_828x523$2017_03_27_10_22_39_47815.jpg

https://vg-images.condecdn.net/image/PWNG521nxnG/crop/405/f/sara-sampaio-beauty-vogue-21may15-rex_b.jpg

https://fotos.web.sapo.io/i/G260851d4/19109871_eZNec.jpeg

ok, I see I was wrong.


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[Petalpusher]

She wouldn't be seen as Black, as in African, but her visible prognathism even front facing gives her away for having something foreign/exotic. People in Europe are not used to see mixed people, even less 1/8 cases like that, so nobody would really know what to think exactly.