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brennus dux gallorum
05-24-2018, 03:17 PM
Let's settle this once and for all so Nightrider's can get it through his empty flat head.

https://i.imgur.com/XuD94Sd.png

Majority of Greece is Dolichomesocephalic:
http://fyletika.blogspot.gr/2014/01/blog-post_20.html
(without Pontians, predominantly brachycephal and racially completely different from Greeks proper, dolicho-mesocephals are even more)

Maniotes and Cretans vs only one village in messinia:
http://fyletika.blogspot.gr/2015/02/blog-post_9.html

Brachycephals representing only 32%:
http://fyletika.blogspot.gr/2016/11/blog-post_14.html

nightrider+
05-24-2018, 04:01 PM
Let's settle this once and for all so Nightrider's can get it through his empty flat head.

https://i.imgur.com/XuD94Sd.png

This map is from J. Lawrence Angel and combines height and cephalic index. It's highly inaccurate and according to Angel himself modern Greece average is in low brachycephaly.
http://archhades.blogspot.gr/2013/03/j-lawrence-angel-on-racial-history-of.html

Also the map cites Coon and Pittard as sources, you can find their work here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?245552-Greece-is-mainly-brachycephalic-land



Majority of Greece is Dolichomesocephalic:
http://fyletika.blogspot.gr/2014/01/blog-post_20.html
(without Pontians, predominantly brachycephal and racially completely different from Greeks proper, dolicho-mesocephals are even more)

This contains many sources you fucking idiot. Pittard's work (49% brachycephals) is from 1915 so there were no Pontics or Anatolians included, then you have Clon Stephanos and Deniker who also found Brachycephals to be majority in most regions. Constantinople Greek have a lower ci average than most Greeks actually. Again I've posted them in my thread above.



Maniotes and Cretans vs only one village in messinia:
http://fyletika.blogspot.gr/2015/02/blog-post_9.html

Maniots, the Peloponnese outliers: https://i.imgur.com/ns1Vjhl.png
Again, see my thread for proof of brachycephalic Laconian average.



Brachycephals representing only 32%:
http://fyletika.blogspot.gr/2016/11/blog-post_14.html

Half the samples are from Thessaly where there is strong mesocephalic tendency according to every source.

Wrong
05-24-2018, 04:02 PM
brennus cux gallorum got out-sourced by peer-reviews and his skull was cracked.

nightrider+
05-24-2018, 04:09 PM
brennus cux gallorum got out-sourced by peer-reviews and his skull was cracked.

Either I'm getting trolled here or he's batshit, most likely the latter.

brennus dux gallorum
05-24-2018, 04:11 PM
brennus cux gallorum got out-sourced by peer-reviews and his skull was cracked.

As you can see I have already posted 4 different sources, with which your brachycephal countryman (pretending to be Greek) responds with irrelevant things. How can i respond to a genius who is supposed to read greek yet in the fourth source ignores the description of both Sterea and Peloponnese as "slightly more dolichocephalic" or how can I take seriously the genetic pca which is definetely doesn't reflect on racial types, with Arcadians in real life being the real outliers (by racial type)?

i guess both yours and his skull are compressed due to brachycephaly :D

Livin
05-24-2018, 04:16 PM
Greece is meso if you want my opinion.!!!

Not brachy but clearly not doli...

nightrider+
05-24-2018, 04:17 PM
As you can see I have already posted 4 different sources, with which your brachycephal countryman (pretending to be Greek) responds with irrelevant things. How can i respond to a genius who is supposed to read greek yet in the fourth source ignores the description of both Sterea and Peloponnese as "slightly more dolichocephalic" or how can I take seriously the genetic pca which is definetely doesn't reflect on racial types,
You lying piece of shit, your fourth source has Pleoponnesian average at 81.7 and Thessalian (where half the samples are from) at 78.5, lower even than Ionian islands.
Also he counts anything below 80 as dolichocephalic which is wrong according to every anthropologist ever. Funny how Eastern Central Greece (Arvanite land) comes up mesocephalic :icon_lol:


with Arcadians in real life being the real outliers (by racial type)

Source, faggot.

Wrong
05-24-2018, 04:19 PM
You lying piece of shit, your fourth source has Pleoponnesian average at 81.7 and Thessalian (where half the samples are from) at 78.5, lower even than Ionian islands.
Also he counts anything below 80 as dolichocephalic which is wrong according to every anthropologist ever. Funny how Eastern Central Greece (Arvanite land) comes up mesocephalic :icon_lol:



Source, faggot.
Indeed, that's still closer to Brachy than it is to Dolicho, by far. The absolute median of mesocephaly is something between 77-78.

brennus dux gallorum
05-24-2018, 04:27 PM
You lying piece of shit, your fourth source has Pleoponnesian average at 81.7 and Thessalian (where half the samples are from) at 78.5, lower even than Ionian islands.
Also he counts anything below 80 as dolichocephalic which is wrong according to every anthropologist ever. Funny how Eastern Central Greece (Arvanite land) comes up mesocephalic :icon_lol:

.

would you stop talking like you do in the stall that you probably call "home" and talk like a human?

Οι δυο κάτοικοι από τα Ιόνια νησιά έχουν μέσο κεφαλικό δείκτη 78,8, ένας Ηπειρώτης είναι υπερβραχυκέφαλος και οι λίγοι Μακεδόνες βρίσκονται περίπου στο 82,4 δηλαδή εμφανίζουν ήπια βραχυκεφαλία, με μίξη δολιχοκέφαλων με περισσότερους βραχυκέφαλους. Οι Πελοποννήσιοι βρίσκονται περίπου στο 81,7 δηλαδή σε μια παρόμοια κατάσταση με λίγο περισσότερους δολιχοκέφαλους. Το δείγμα από την (ανατολική) Στερεά Ελλάδα τείνει δολιχοκέφαλο, με μέσο κεφαλικό δείκτη περίπου 79,2.

Η ταξινόμηση με βάση τον κεφαλικό δείκτη είναι ως εξής:
Δολιχοκέφαλοι (ΚΔ<80): 47,5%
Μεσοκέφαλοι (80≤ΚΔ<82): 21,2%
Βραχυκέφαλοι (82≤ΚΔ): 31,3%

Source, faggot
personal experience. I have been to all Peloponnesian capitals and other towns, no other than Tripoli looked more an outlier. Majority in Argos, Patra, Sparta, and Kalamata was mediterranean and dolicho-meso, but in tripoli, racial types were dramatically different. I have no opinion about Pyrgos (as I have never been there) but in Kyllini majority was mediterranean as well

Voskos
05-24-2018, 04:27 PM
How do you call a cube head , my region is full of these phenotypes, is that meso or brachy? But I personally am dolicho.

Voskos
05-24-2018, 04:28 PM
taxonomy is pseudoscience by the way, even aframs for example can be classified as brachy.

brennus dux gallorum
05-24-2018, 04:30 PM
How do you call a cube head , my region is full of these phenotypes, is that meso or brachy? But I personally am dolicho.

All of them exist allover the country.

nightrider+
05-24-2018, 04:34 PM
personal experience. I have been to all Peloponnesian capitals and other towns, no other than Tripoli looked more an outlier. Majority in Argos, Patra, Sparta, and Kalamata was mediterranean and dolicho-meso, but in tripoli, racial types were dramatically different. I have no opinion about Pyrgos (as I have never been there) but in Kyllini majority was mediterranean as well

Maybe you are right for once. After all Arcadia has the least Slavic admixture and Bulgaria has a lower cephalic index mean than Greece.

Though measuring CI with your eyes while disregarding all anthropological studies is another sign of your lack of mental well being.

Papastratosels26
05-24-2018, 04:37 PM
Greece is a mesocephalic country.

Voskos
05-24-2018, 04:44 PM
Here are some quite dark cretan greeks i found, are they dolicho or brachy? i honestly have no idea about these things.

http://www.aftodioikisi.gr/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Mamoulakis-Harris.jpg

https://maleviziotis.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/mamoulakis-e1513250800961-717x570.jpg

https://tvcreta.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/yes-i-do.jpg

nightrider+
05-24-2018, 04:46 PM
Here are some quite dark cretan greeks i found, are they dolicho or brachy? i honestly have no idea about these things.

The two men look brachycephalic for sure. The second one could easily pass as Arcadian btw. The first looks Epirot but darker.

Lavrentis
05-24-2018, 04:47 PM
Here are some quite dark cretan greeks i found, are they dolicho or brachy? i honestly have no idea about these things.

http://www.aftodioikisi.gr/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Mamoulakis-Harris.jpg

https://maleviziotis.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/mamoulakis-e1513250800961-717x570.jpg

https://tvcreta.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/yes-i-do.jpg

The men are probably brachy, the woman is probably meso. But you need side pictures to tell their cephalic index, like this:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180524/cbc93ae2b33bcac387fbfedb49c4764a.jpg

brennus dux gallorum
05-24-2018, 04:48 PM
Maybe you are right for once. After all Arcadia has the least Slavic admixture and Bulgaria has a lower cephalic index mean than Greece.

Though measuring CI with your eyes while disregarding all anthropological studies is another sign of your lack of mental well being.

let me doubt about the first but anyway

there is nothing wrong about recognizing anthropological traits on the people around you, on contrary there are further delusional issues when you claim someone disregarded all anthropological studies when he has already mentioned a good amount of them

brennus dux gallorum
05-24-2018, 05:04 PM
Here are some quite dark cretan greeks i found, are they dolicho or brachy? i honestly have no idea about these things.

http://www.aftodioikisi.gr/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Mamoulakis-Harris.jpg

https://maleviziotis.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/mamoulakis-e1513250800961-717x570.jpg

https://tvcreta.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/yes-i-do.jpg

lol the second one looks like a Serb-Greek hybrid

brennus dux gallorum
05-24-2018, 09:52 PM
Edit (wrong thread)