Iceland and Greenland Vikings had Celtic blood

[CelticViking]

Norsemen who settled in southern Greenland carried more Celtic than Nordic blood – but they were still decidedly Scandinavian

An analysis of DNA from a Viking gravesite near a 1000 year-old church in southern Greenland shows that those buried there had strong Celtic bloodlines

http://www.cphpost.dk/news/scitech/92-technology/48554-greenland-vikings-had-celtic-blood.html

http://www.archaeologydaily.com/news/201003203610/Greenland-Vikings-had-Celtic-blood.html

http://www.mnh.si.edu/vikings/voyage/subset/iceland/genetics.html


Most Icelanders are descendants of Norwegian settlers and Celts from Ireland and Scotland, brought over as slaves during the age of settlement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Iceland


Icelanders have always considered sagas to be the most reliable source of information about their history. One class of sagas, known as the Saga of the Icelanders, tells almost exclusively about the earliest settlers in Iceland, from the time A.D. 870 until the conversion to Christianity in A.D. 1000. According to the sagas, most settlers were established families who left Norway rather than submit to the growing power of the king. But the sagas also shed light on the Celtic admixture in the Icelandic settlement. As a literary form, the sagas have their closest parallels to Irish literature, indicating that the impetus for writing sagas may have been inspired by Celtic traditions.
http://www.mnh.si.edu/vikings/voyage/subset/iceland/sagas.html

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/iceland/icelandic_women.htm

http://www.unreportedheritagenews.com/2010/12/did-scots-visit-iceland-new-research.html

[Treffie]

My female DNA line (and Mr Nglund's) suggests that my ancient ancestor was a result of this


Maternal J1c2

The Vikings

By 4,000 years ago an offshoot of J1c2, known as J1c2-16192, had made it all the way to the western edge of Europe, becoming entrenched among the Celtic-speakers of the British Isles. But even that wasn't the end of the journey. Beginning in the 8th century AD, Viking raiders who regularly pillaged coastal Britain and Ireland often sailed back home with Celtic women aboard. Some of those women carried J1c2-16192, so that today there are Norwegians and even Icelanders with the far-flung J haplogroup

[Baron Samedi]

Not a shock considering the Irish slavery.

[Osweo]

"more Celtic than Nordic" is nonsense to get headlines. The British Isles element in the Icelanders is common knowledge, and applied to some extent back in the old country too.

Iceland had a famous poet called Kormak Agmundarson, of course. Njal is none other than the Niall in Ui Neill. Such examples could be multiplied tenfold by anyone who cared to look.

[Aviane]

Makes very much sense to say that Icelanders who look partly descended from Irish and Scots who added the dark haired and slighty fair skinned component.

[Pallantides]

I think Icelanders show much genetic similarity with western Norwegians who also have affinity with the British and Irish.

[Sahson]

I have Haplogroup I1. It is said to have come from Southern Scandinavia.

"Haplogroup I is found at very low frequencies (generally < 3%) throughout Europe, Middle East and South Asia. It is nearly absent in parts of Europe (Iberia, South-West France, Ireland) and strongest in Iceland (> 5%), Scotland, Norway, southern Finland."

"The frequency of haplogroup I may have undergone a reduction in Europe following the Medieval age. An overall frequency of 13% was found in Viking samples from the Iron Age to the Medieval Age from Denmark and Scandinavia compared to only 2.5% in modern samples. Haplogroup I could therefore have been an ancient Southern Scandinavian type “diluted” by later immigration events."

I have irish on the paternal side.

[Don Brick]

I have Haplogroup I1. It is said to have come from Southern Scandinavia.

"Haplogroup I is found at very low frequencies (generally < 3%) throughout Europe, Middle East and South Asia. It is nearly absent in parts of Europe (Iberia, South-West France, Ireland) and strongest in Iceland (> 5%), Scotland, Norway, southern Finland."

"The frequency of haplogroup I may have undergone a reduction in Europe following the Medieval age. An overall frequency of 13% was found in Viking samples from the Iron Age to the Medieval Age from Denmark and Scandinavia compared to only 2.5% in modern samples. Haplogroup I could therefore have been an ancient Southern Scandinavian type “diluted” by later immigration events."

I have irish on the paternal side.

Hmm, maybe you´re talking about a specific mutation of I1 because the haplogroup on its own is not really as rare as the above text makes it appear. This sounds more like it:

"The group displays a very clear frequency gradient, with a peak of approximately 40 percent among the populations of western Finland and more than 50 percent in the province of Satakunta, around 35 percent in southern Norway, southwestern Sweden especially on the island of Gotland, and Denmark, with rapidly decreasing frequencies toward the edges of the historically Germanic sphere of influence".

Few maps of distribution. Not sure which is the most accurate.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/HG_I1_europa.jpg/300px-HG_I1_europa.jpg

http://www.bowesonenamestudy.com/_Media/pastedgraphic-14.jpeg

My glorious Y-DNA too btw. :D

[Aces High]

I always wondered how that ugly talentless leprechaun like dwarf Bjork could come from healthy nordic stock.....seeing that they have Irish blood i now know why.

[heathen_son]

I read somewhere that there was a Baltic influence in Iceland. Any idea if this is accurate?


I always wondered how that ugly talentless leprechaun like dwarf Bjork could come from healthy nordic stock.....seeing that they have Irish blood i now know why.

Talentless? Be fair. Björk has made some very unique, soulful and expressive music which is 1000 x more interesting than the majority of modern artists.

And there are uglier (nordic) people in Iceland than her :D

[Sahson]

Hmm, maybe you´re talking about a specific mutation of I1 because the haplogroup on its own is not really as rare as the above text makes it appear. This sounds more like it:

This tends to confuse a lot of people. I meant mtDNA. My Y-DNA is R1b M222.

I wished I had mtDNA haplogroup distribution maps... this is the best map I've found, but it only shows I.

http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/eur-mtdna.png

[Aces High]

Talentless? Be fair. Björk has made some very unique, soulful and expressive music which is 1000 x more interesting than the majority of modern artists.


Come on,when you think about talented nordic chics,think Nina Persson...think Agnetha Fältskog...think Anni-Frid Lyngstad in skintight cat suits....;)

Bjork is the female Les dawson of nordic music.

[_______]

I always wondered how that ugly talentless leprechaun like dwarf Bjork could come from healthy nordic stock.....seeing that they have Irish blood i now know why.

What a horrible (and untrue) thing to say! :eek: Bjork is gorgeous and incredibly talented - even if you don't care for her music, this should be obvious. Many of the best minds are of irish descent (Oscar Wilde, Dr Timothy Leary, to name just two.)

[Sahson]

What a horrible (and untrue) thing to say! :eek: Bjork is gorgeous and incredibly talented - even if you don't care for her music, this should be obvious. Many of the best minds are of irish descent (Oscar Wilde, Dr Timothy Leary, to name just two.)

and GREAT warriors. James J. Braddock

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z71BeTtQMeo/TV_WdR6PSbI/AAAAAAAAACI/cKI8hmQDfEs/s400/JamesBraddock.jpg

He knocked out a Jew!

[Aces High]

What a horrible (and untrue) thing to say! :eek: Bjork is gorgeous

You have got to be kidding....she looks like a crack whore.....all she needs are some meth teeth.

(As for the great irish minds lol.....good one ill use that one to get a few laughs myself.)

[Pallantides]

I always wondered how that ugly talentless leprechaun like dwarf Bjork could come from healthy nordic stock.....seeing that they have Irish blood i now know why.

Björk would look as much at home in Norway as she would Ireland.:rolleyes2:




Greatness!
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[Aces High]

Björk would look more at home in Norway than Ireland.

Thats open to question,all i was pointing out was that i have always been flumoxed that some midget with black hair and pixie features could hail from Iceland...when the Icelandic people are known for their nordic looks and bearing.

[Pallantides]

Thats open to question,all i was pointing out was that i have always been flumoxed that some midget with black hair and pixie features could hail from Iceland...when the Icelandic people are known for their nordic looks and bearing.

The Norwegian journalist and model Mari Midtstigen have somewhat simillar looks as Björk:
http://images.fashionmodeldirectory.com/model/000000005072-Mari_Midtstigen-thumb.jpghttp://www.studenttorget.no/images/orginal/10458.jpg

[Aces High]

They look more mongol than nordic,and in my opinion fugly.

[Pallantides]

They look more mongol than nordic,and in my opinion fugly.



Hey now... both of Mari's parents are from Oppland, so she could be a distant relative of mine.

[Aces High]

Well,say what you want....all that i know is if i were in a bed with these three i wouldnt be climbing over them to get to bjork....;)

[Pallantides]

Nina Persson is nice:thumb001:
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/27569/Nina+Persson.jpghttp://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7000000/Nina-Persson-Image-the-cardigans-7070572-515-375.jpg


...but Anni-Frid Lyngstad and Agnetha Fältskog are ugly in my opinion.

[Gaztelu]

I always wondered how that ugly talentless leprechaun like dwarf Bjork could come from healthy nordic stock.....seeing that they have Irish blood i now know why.

It's possible that she has Inuit ancestors.

[Pallantides]

It's possible that she has Inuit ancestors.

I doubt it... though anything is possible, but Björk really don't look that foreign, I have seen some Norwegians with simillar apperance.

[Aces High]

Could be,that could explain the mongol like facial features.....and lack of height.

[heathen_son]

Bjork is the female Les dawson of nordic music.

Hardly ;)

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[Pallantides]

Björk is a divine godess of the North, all hail the supreme queen! :D

[Agrippa]

It was proven from the perspective physical anthropology as well, with the British contribution in Iceland being not evenly distributed anthropologically.

From Bernhard and Kandler-Palsson (1986):
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10173&stc=1&d=1306183040

Iceland had various influences.