Councillors from Southeastern Andalusia and Southeastern Sicily - compare and contrast

[Tooting Carmen]

To me they look just as Mediterranean as each other. This silly game of "your people are swarthier than mine" is just nitpicking and even trollish.

Almeria, SE Andalusia (you can see each councillor by pointing to their names): http://www3.aytoalmeria.es/www/estatico/corporacion.asp#cs

Syracuse, SE Sicily: http://www.comune.siracusa.it/index.php/en/il-consiglio

[Cristiano viejo]

And Dña Carolina Lafita Hisham-Hasayen, does she sound Spanish to you, La vita e obsessione per la Spagna? :eyes

[Sikeliot]

They look equally Mediterranean, but the Spaniards look more "western" Med and the SE Sicilians look more Greek or even other types of Balkan in some cases.

If you want more exotic types in Sicily you'd find them in the center-west. Not saying most people would look exotic but Syracuse is probably the region of Sicily with the fewest types.

[Tooting Carmen]

And Dña Carolina Lafita Hisham-Hasayen, does she sound Spanish to you, La vita e obsessione per la Spagna? :eyes

No, but she's the only one with a foreign name. Anyway, this thread is aimed primarily at Sikeliot.

[Sikeliot]

No, but she's the only one with a foreign name. Anyway, this thread is aimed primarily at Sikeliot.

Well, you got my answer above.

[Cristiano viejo]

No, but she's the only one with a foreign name. Anyway, this thread is aimed primarily at Sikeliot.

No, she is not the only one with a foreign surname. Dña. María Isabel Hernández Orlandi has an Italian surname too.

[Tooting Carmen]

They look equally Mediterranean, but the Spaniards look more "western" Med and the SE Sicilians look more Greek or even other types of Balkan in some cases.

I agree that their features are different, but I don't really think that one group looks more 'Northern' than the other, and insofar as that may be the case at all the difference is tiny.

[Sikeliot]

I agree that their features are different, but I don't really think that one group looks more 'Northern' than the other, and insofar as that may be the case at all the difference is tiny.

Ok, that I can agree with. It's a matter of WESTERN vs EASTERN not north versus south.

But I would argue some other parts of Sicily have a moderately higher amount of Near Eastern types than Syracuse. Syracusans are basically like southern Peloponnese, they are not representative neither genetically nor phenotypically for the entire island.

[Tooting Carmen]

Either way, they still look more alike than these two sets do to one another: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?215797-Councillors-from-Central-England-vs-councillors-from-Central-France-compare-and-contrast

[Sikeliot]

Either way, they still look more alike than these two sets do to one another: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?215797-Councillors-from-Central-England-vs-councillors-from-Central-France-compare-and-contrast

No, I don't agree with that. I think the Sicilian set looks southeast European, and the Spanish set southwest European.

[Cristiano viejo]

Either way, they still look more alike than these two sets do to one another: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?215797-Councillors-from-Central-England-vs-councillors-from-Central-France-compare-and-contrast

They look quite, quite, quite different.

[Sikeliot]

The other thing to note is, exotic types aside, Sicilians still look different from Spanish. It's not like Sicilians are Spaniards with some Levantine influence... even if you took that out, they still would differ.

[Tooting Carmen]

No, I don't agree with that. I think the Sicilian set looks southeast European, and the Spanish set southwest European.

I'm not saying they look at all identical, but still the gap is less big than NW European versus the European melting pot look the French have.

[Sikeliot]

I'm not saying they look at all identical, but still the gap is less big than NW European versus the European melting pot look the French have.

I don't know. I think they look very distinct.

Do you recognize what I was saying though -- that southeast Sicily has the fewest Near Eastern types on the island? They are basically the same as Maniot Greeks.

[Tooting Carmen]

I don't know. I think they look very distinct.

Do you recognize what I was saying though -- that southeast Sicily has the fewest Near Eastern types on the island? They are basically the same as Maniot Greeks.

Possibly. Btw, here is Palermo: https://www.comune.palermo.it/consiglieri.php

[Sikeliot]

Possibly. Btw, here is Palermo: https://www.comune.palermo.it/consiglieri.php

Those look more Cretan.

One of the women (surname 'Cancilla') looks Chinese, cannot possibly be native.

[Odin]

Both are similar.