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FilhoV
05-28-2018, 01:30 PM
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26.47
2 West_Med 24.93
3 East_Med 12.37
4 South_Asian 10.47
5 Baltic 10.14
6 West_Asian 9.8
7 Red_Sea 3.91
8 Oceanian 1.23
9 Northeast_African 0.59
10 East_Asian 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 12.17
2 Tuscan 13.96
3 Spanish_Extremadura 14.87
4 Spanish_Galicia 15.09
5 Portuguese 15.37
6 Spanish_Andalucia 15.74
7 Spanish_Murcia 16.66
8 Greek_Thessaly 16.74
9 Spanish_Valencia 16.91
10 Spanish_Cataluna 16.94
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 17.08
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.12
13 West_Sicilian 17.44
14 Italian_Abruzzo 17.45
15 Romanian 17.99
16 Spanish_Cantabria 18.11
17 Bulgarian 18.6
18 French 18.84
19 Southwest_French 19.38
20 Spanish_Aragon 19.63
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.2% North_Italian + 15.8% Dharkar @ 5.03
2 85.3% North_Italian + 14.7% Kurumba @ 5.09
3 84.6% North_Italian + 15.4% Kanjar @ 5.12
4 85.3% North_Italian + 14.7% Dusadh @ 5.13
5 83.2% North_Italian + 16.8% Kshatriya @ 5.17
6 84.7% North_Italian + 15.3% Uttar_Pradesh @ 5.19
7 83.3% North_Italian + 16.7% Gujarati @ 5.19
8 85.1% North_Italian + 14.9% Kol @ 5.2
9 82.3% North_Italian + 17.7% Brahmin_UP @ 5.21
10 85.9% North_Italian + 14.1% Piramalai @ 5.23
11 85.3% North_Italian + 14.7% Velamas @ 5.27
12 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Sakilli @ 5.28
13 85.5% North_Italian + 14.5% North_Kannadi @ 5.31
14 83.3% North_Italian + 16.7% Bangladeshi @ 5.35
15 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Chamar @ 5.4
16 85.4% North_Italian + 14.6% Chenchu @ 5.43
17 75.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 24.1% Pathan @ 5.63
18 77.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.9% Pathan @ 5.7
19 78.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 21.2% Sindhi @ 5.86
20 81.5% North_Italian
FilhoV
05-28-2018, 01:51 PM
Her 23andMe results
https://i.imgur.com/XVUwYCe.jpg
Wow. Must be a partial Gitano, not full. What are the remaining 8.4 percent?
Post Dodecad K12 and Harappa please.
FilhoV
05-28-2018, 02:11 PM
Wow. Must be a partial Gitano, not full. What are the remaining 8.4 percent?
SA, ME and unassigned
SA, ME and unassigned
How much South Asian?
Cristiano viejo
05-28-2018, 02:14 PM
Wow. Must be a partial Gitano, not full. What are the remaining 8.4 percent?
Partial Gypsy = full Gypsy.
FilhoV
05-28-2018, 02:16 PM
Partial Gypsy = full Gypsy.
Fuck out of here and stop hyjacking a thread about something like DNA that is too complex for your degenerate little mind
Go post some photos on taxonomy and fuck off
Partial Gypsy = full Gypsy.
Absolutely not. That person is basically white with some more South Asian. I will run her through other calculators now.
FilhoV
05-28-2018, 02:25 PM
Her photo
https://i.imgur.com/PsdZRSx.jpg
Good looking women I would say
Basically 7/8 North Italian and 1/8 Tribal/South Indian. Very interesting. Obviously not a full-blooded Gitano (they do have Spanish blood from previous centuries though, I was told).
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 34.21
2 Caucasus 20.25
3 North_European 20.06
4 South_Asian 7.94
5 Gedrosia 7.53
6 Southwest_Asian 5.61
7 Northwest_African 3.8
8 Southeast_Asian 0.59
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 N_Italian (Dodecad) 11.09
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.29
3 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.08
4 North_Italian (HGDP) 12.91
5 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.92
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.84
7 Baleares (1000Genomes) 17.15
8 Galicia (1000Genomes) 17.38
9 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 17.53
10 Portuguese (Dodecad) 17.54
11 Canarias (1000Genomes) 18.26
12 Greek (Dodecad) 19.04
13 Murcia (1000Genomes) 19.09
14 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.48
15 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.48
16 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 20.03
17 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 20.09
18 Romanians (Behar) 20.35
19 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 20.76
20 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 21.01
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 12.8% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 3.54
2 87.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 12.2% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 3.63
3 86.9% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.1% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 3.65
4 87.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 12.7% Kol (Metspalu) @ 3.66
5 87.9% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 12.1% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 3.68
6 87% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 13% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 3.68
7 87.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 12.6% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 3.69
8 87.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 12.3% Gond (Metspalu) @ 3.7
9 85.9% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 14.1% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 3.7
10 87.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 12.3% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 3.71
11 87.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 12.8% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 3.72
12 86.9% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.1% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 3.75
13 88.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 11.8% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 3.78
14 84.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.8% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 3.79
15 81.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 18.6% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 3.85
16 86.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 3.87
17 86.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.5% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 3.94
18 86.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.5% INS30 (SGVP) @ 3.96
19 86.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 3.97
20 87% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 13% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 3.98
Her photo
https://i.imgur.com/PsdZRSx.jpg
Good looking women I would say
Looks 100% white, much lighter than Penelopa Cruz or an average Italian woman for example. Can pass all over Europe.
FilhoV
05-28-2018, 02:30 PM
The reason she is clustering among North Italians Is because they have slightly higher west Asian then Iberians we practically have none I have only 3% WA
She is from Granada, Spain so she is essentially 90% Spanish And 10% Guarjati
Ajeje Brazorf
05-28-2018, 02:37 PM
The reason she is clustering among North Italians Is because they have slightly higher west Asian then Iberians we practically have none I have only 3% WA
She is from Granada, Spain so she is essentially 90% Spanish And 10% Guarjati
Kit?
Kriptc06
05-28-2018, 02:51 PM
Her photo
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Good looking women I would say
wow, very pretty, I would never guess
Ajeje Brazorf
05-28-2018, 03:19 PM
Spanish, 10-15% Romani
HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions
HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions
This utility uses the HarappaWorld model, created by Zack. Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at harappa@zackvision.com or to his HarappaWorld blog.
We appreciate him making this excellent tool available here.
Kit Number: ******* Elapsed Time: 6.05 seconds
Population
S-Indian 8.08
Baloch 7.24
Caucasian 19.13
NE-Euro 25.89
SE-Asian 0.26
Siberian -
NE-Asian -
Papuan 1.45
American -
Beringian -
Mediterranean 30.97
SW-Asian 6.98
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -
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52659 SNPs used in this evaluation
Oracle
GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.
Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.
HarappaWorld Oracle results:
23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.
Kit *******
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 30.97
2 NE-Euro 25.89
3 Caucasian 19.13
4 S-Indian 8.08
5 Baloch 7.24
6 SW-Asian 6.98
7 Papuan 1.45
8 SE-Asian 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 italian (hgdp) 10.38
2 tuscan (hapmap) 11.32
3 tuscan (hgdp) 11.59
4 tuscan (1000genomes) 11.86
5 romanian-a (behar) 14.9
6 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 16.13
7 spaniard (behar) 17.11
8 spaniard (1000genomes) 17.71
9 ashkenazi (harappa) 18.34
10 french (hgdp) 19.88
11 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 20.38
12 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 23.25
13 hungarian (behar) 23.68
14 romanian-b (behar) 24.3
15 morocco-jew (behar) 24.65
16 slovenian (xing) 25.4
17 sephardic-jew (behar) 25.47
18 utahn-white (1000genomes) 27.47
19 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 27.78
20 n-european (xing) 28.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.9% italian (hgdp) + 14.1% tharu (reich) @ 2.79
2 86.7% italian (hgdp) + 13.3% tamil-nadar (harappa) @ 2.85
3 86.9% italian (hgdp) + 13.1% naidu (reich) @ 2.88
4 87.2% italian (hgdp) + 12.8% bhil (reich) @ 2.88
5 87.5% italian (hgdp) + 12.5% tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) @ 2.89
6 87.5% italian (hgdp) + 12.5% sakilli (chaubey) @ 2.9
7 87.3% italian (hgdp) + 12.7% kamsali (reich) @ 2.91
8 85.7% italian (hgdp) + 14.3% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 2.91
9 87.6% italian (hgdp) + 12.4% hakkipikki (metspalu) @ 2.92
10 87.6% italian (hgdp) + 12.4% ap-madiga (xing) @ 2.92
11 86.7% italian (hgdp) + 13.3% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.93
12 87.1% italian (hgdp) + 12.9% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 2.94
13 87.6% italian (hgdp) + 12.4% kurumba (reich) @ 2.95
14 86.7% italian (hgdp) + 13.3% satnami (reich) @ 2.95
15 87% italian (hgdp) + 13% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) @ 2.97
16 86.9% italian (hgdp) + 13.1% chenchu (metspalu) @ 2.99
17 87.3% italian (hgdp) + 12.7% chamar (metspalu) @ 2.99
18 86.5% italian (hgdp) + 13.5% sinhalese (harappa) @ 2.99
19 87.8% italian (hgdp) + 12.2% madiga (reich) @ 3.01
20 86.8% italian (hgdp) + 13.2% hallaki (reich) @ 3.02
Oracle-4
Kit Num: *******
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.
23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 30.97
2 NE-Euro 25.89
3 Caucasian 19.13
4 S-Indian 8.08
5 Baloch 7.24
6 SW-Asian 6.98
7 Papuan 1.45
Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.
--------------------------------
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 italian_hgdp @ 11.300740
2 tuscan_hapmap @ 12.559668
3 tuscan_hgdp @ 12.870768
4 tuscan_1000genomes @ 13.177594
5 romanian-a_behar @ 16.324713
6 bulgarian_yunusbayev @ 17.725777
7 spaniard_behar @ 18.581553
8 spaniard_1000genomes @ 19.231123
9 ashkenazi_harappa @ 20.264709
10 serbian_harappa @ 21.182695
11 french_hgdp @ 21.908333
12 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 22.519363
13 puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 23.653507
14 hungarian_behar @ 26.040966
15 romanian-b_behar @ 26.488213
16 morocco-jew_behar @ 27.121059
17 slovenian_xing @ 27.916082
18 sephardic-jew_behar @ 28.136332
19 puerto-rican_bryc @ 30.155544
20 utahn-white_1000genomes @ 30.375689
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-b_behar +50% spaniard_behar @ 5.520177
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% ashkenazi_harappa +25% basque_hgdp +25% singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 3.036923
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
1 hungarian_behar + sardinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.056755
2 cypriot_behar + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 2.214251
3 british_1000genomes + cypriot_behar + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.220812
4 basque_hgdp + druze_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.236833
5 basque_hgdp + druze_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_behar @ 2.264450
6 hungarian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.271673
7 cypriot_behar + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + utahn-white_hapmap @ 2.303396
8 sardinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + slovenian_xing @ 2.317735
9 cypriot_behar + n-european_xing + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.343840
10 druze_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spain-basc_henn2012 + spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.392967
11 morocco-jew_behar + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + slovenian_xing @ 2.416105
12 druze_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spain-basc_henn2012 + spaniard_behar @ 2.451857
13 cypriot_behar + orcadian_hgdp + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.498926
14 cypriot_behar + italian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 2.523579
15 cypriot_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes + spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.554930
16 basque_hgdp + cypriot_behar + italian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.555162
17 italian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.599650
18 cypriot_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes + spaniard_behar @ 2.669971
19 sephardic-jew_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spain-basc_henn2012 + tuscan_1000genomes @ 2.697093
20 italian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_behar @ 2.712824
Done.
Elapsed time 5.9631 seconds.
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions
This utility uses the Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Project Blog.
Kit Number: ******* Elapsed Time: 7.25 seconds
Population
North_Sea 12.47
Atlantic 23.11
Baltic 4.45
Eastern_Euro 4.62
West_Med 19.35
West_Asian 9.73
East_Med 10.15
Red_Sea 4.45
South_Asian 10.13
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.18
Northeast_African 0.34
Sub-Saharan -
Web site and contents ©Copyright 2011-2018 by GEDmatch, Inc.
Genealogy and DNA data remains the property of the submitter.
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59615 SNPs used in this evaluation
Oracle
GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.
Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit *******
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 23.11
2 West_Med 19.35
3 North_Sea 12.47
4 East_Med 10.15
5 South_Asian 10.13
6 West_Asian 9.73
7 Eastern_Euro 4.62
8 Baltic 4.45
9 Red_Sea 4.45
10 Oceanian 1.18
11 Northeast_African 0.34
12 Southeast_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 11.63
2 Tuscan 13.22
3 Spanish_Extremadura 13.39
4 Spanish_Andalucia 13.41
5 Portuguese 13.93
6 Spanish_Murcia 14.22
7 Spanish_Galicia 14.46
8 Spanish_Valencia 14.53
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.62
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 14.66
11 Spanish_Cataluna 14.66
12 Spanish_Cantabria 15.85
13 Spanish_Aragon 16.41
14 Southwest_French 16.77
15 Italian_Abruzzo 17.24
16 West_Sicilian 17.28
17 Romanian 17.42
18 Bulgarian 17.43
19 Greek 17.68
20 Greek_Thessaly 17.72
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.5% Spanish_Andalucia + 23.5% Pathan @ 3.48
2 78% Spanish_Andalucia + 22% Sindhi @ 3.55
3 77.2% Spanish_Andalucia + 22.8% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.86
4 76.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 23.2% Kalash @ 4
5 71.8% Spanish_Aragon + 28.2% Brahui @ 4.22
6 72% Spanish_Cantabria + 28% Makrani @ 4.24
7 75.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 24.3% Balochi @ 4.25
8 77.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 22.7% Burusho @ 4.25
9 76% Spanish_Andalucia + 24% Brahui @ 4.26
10 72.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 27.4% Brahui @ 4.28
11 71.4% Spanish_Aragon + 28.6% Balochi @ 4.32
12 74.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 25.7% Brahui @ 4.42
13 71.2% Spanish_Aragon + 28.8% Makrani @ 4.43
14 72.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 27.8% Balochi @ 4.45
15 75.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 24.9% Pathan @ 4.49
16 73.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 26.1% Balochi @ 4.5
17 76.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 23.3% Sindhi @ 4.56
18 70.8% Southwest_French + 29.2% Makrani @ 4.58
19 73.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 26.2% Makrani @ 4.72
20 78.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 21.5% Sindhi @ 4.75
Oracle-4
Kit Num: *******
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 23.11
2 West_Med 19.35
3 North_Sea 12.47
4 East_Med 10.15
5 South_Asian 10.13
6 West_Asian 9.73
7 Eastern_Euro 4.62
8 Baltic 4.45
9 Red_Sea 4.45
10 Oceanian 1.18
Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.
--------------------------------
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 13.156960
2 Tuscan @ 15.190623
3 Spanish_Andalucia @ 15.237236
4 Spanish_Extremadura @ 15.237847
5 Portuguese @ 15.885400
6 Spanish_Murcia @ 16.221870
7 Spanish_Galicia @ 16.543524
8 Spanish_Valencia @ 16.623917
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 16.681637
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 16.747149
11 Spanish_Cataluna @ 16.792503
12 Spanish_Cantabria @ 18.159300
13 Spanish_Aragon @ 18.850767
14 Southwest_French @ 19.220678
15 Romanian @ 19.781269
16 Bulgarian @ 19.840006
17 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.012192
18 West_Sicilian @ 20.126787
19 Greek @ 20.456043
20 French @ 20.475262
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +50% Turkmen @ 10.158945
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +25% Libyan_Jewish +25% Punjabi_Jat @ 4.388526
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
1 Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.660196
2 French_Basque + Italian_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.731824
3 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.739735
4 Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.814910
5 French_Basque + Italian_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Southwest_French @ 3.832616
6 Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.894405
7 North_Italian + Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.905765
8 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Punjabi_Jat + Southwest_French @ 3.920222
9 Pathan + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon + Tuscan @ 3.952508
10 French_Basque + Pathan + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Sicilian @ 3.956752
11 French_Basque + Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Tuscan @ 3.965353
12 French_Basque + Pathan + Spanish_Extremadura + Tuscan @ 3.972204
13 East_Sicilian + French_Basque + Pathan + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.979035
14 French_Basque + Punjabi_Jat + Sephardic_Jewish + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.004339
15 Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.007586
16 French_Basque + Punjabi_Jat + South_Italian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.018396
17 French_Basque + Italian_Jewish + Pathan + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.045203
18 North_Italian + Pathan + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.061698
19 Brahui + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.067345
20 French_Basque + Italian_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.070632
Done.
Elapsed time 2.0467 seconds.
Ajeje Brazorf
05-28-2018, 03:21 PM
Why are her results so low quality? The maximum she gets is 59615 SNPs.
Why are her results so low quality? The maximum she gets is 59615 SNPs.
Must be 23andme v5, I get 58k SNP:s used with my 23andme kit.
Ajeje Brazorf
05-28-2018, 06:07 PM
Must be 23andme v5, I get 58k SNP:s used with my 23andme kit.
Oh shit...
Mortimer
05-28-2018, 06:16 PM
She has similar amount of southasian as i do try mdlp world to see how much roma she is
Mortimer
05-28-2018, 06:17 PM
With 8 percent southasian you arent 10 percent roma i score 11 percent and im 56 percent roma
Spanish, 10-15% Romani
HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions
HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions
This utility uses the HarappaWorld model, created by Zack. Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at harappa@zackvision.com or to his HarappaWorld blog.
We appreciate him making this excellent tool available here.
Kit Number: ******* Elapsed Time: 6.05 seconds
Population
S-Indian 8.08
Baloch 7.24
Caucasian 19.13
NE-Euro 25.89
SE-Asian 0.26
Siberian -
NE-Asian -
Papuan 1.45
American -
Beringian -
Mediterranean 30.97
SW-Asian 6.98
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -
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52659 SNPs used in this evaluation
Oracle
GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.
Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.
HarappaWorld Oracle results:
23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.
Kit *******
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 30.97
2 NE-Euro 25.89
3 Caucasian 19.13
4 S-Indian 8.08
5 Baloch 7.24
6 SW-Asian 6.98
7 Papuan 1.45
8 SE-Asian 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 italian (hgdp) 10.38
2 tuscan (hapmap) 11.32
3 tuscan (hgdp) 11.59
4 tuscan (1000genomes) 11.86
5 romanian-a (behar) 14.9
6 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 16.13
7 spaniard (behar) 17.11
8 spaniard (1000genomes) 17.71
9 ashkenazi (harappa) 18.34
10 french (hgdp) 19.88
11 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 20.38
12 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 23.25
13 hungarian (behar) 23.68
14 romanian-b (behar) 24.3
15 morocco-jew (behar) 24.65
16 slovenian (xing) 25.4
17 sephardic-jew (behar) 25.47
18 utahn-white (1000genomes) 27.47
19 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 27.78
20 n-european (xing) 28.12
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.9% italian (hgdp) + 14.1% tharu (reich) @ 2.79
2 86.7% italian (hgdp) + 13.3% tamil-nadar (harappa) @ 2.85
3 86.9% italian (hgdp) + 13.1% naidu (reich) @ 2.88
4 87.2% italian (hgdp) + 12.8% bhil (reich) @ 2.88
5 87.5% italian (hgdp) + 12.5% tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) @ 2.89
6 87.5% italian (hgdp) + 12.5% sakilli (chaubey) @ 2.9
7 87.3% italian (hgdp) + 12.7% kamsali (reich) @ 2.91
8 85.7% italian (hgdp) + 14.3% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 2.91
9 87.6% italian (hgdp) + 12.4% hakkipikki (metspalu) @ 2.92
10 87.6% italian (hgdp) + 12.4% ap-madiga (xing) @ 2.92
11 86.7% italian (hgdp) + 13.3% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.93
12 87.1% italian (hgdp) + 12.9% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 2.94
13 87.6% italian (hgdp) + 12.4% kurumba (reich) @ 2.95
14 86.7% italian (hgdp) + 13.3% satnami (reich) @ 2.95
15 87% italian (hgdp) + 13% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) @ 2.97
16 86.9% italian (hgdp) + 13.1% chenchu (metspalu) @ 2.99
17 87.3% italian (hgdp) + 12.7% chamar (metspalu) @ 2.99
18 86.5% italian (hgdp) + 13.5% sinhalese (harappa) @ 2.99
19 87.8% italian (hgdp) + 12.2% madiga (reich) @ 3.01
20 86.8% italian (hgdp) + 13.2% hallaki (reich) @ 3.02
Oracle-4
Kit Num: *******
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.
23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 30.97
2 NE-Euro 25.89
3 Caucasian 19.13
4 S-Indian 8.08
5 Baloch 7.24
6 SW-Asian 6.98
7 Papuan 1.45
Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.
--------------------------------
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 italian_hgdp @ 11.300740
2 tuscan_hapmap @ 12.559668
3 tuscan_hgdp @ 12.870768
4 tuscan_1000genomes @ 13.177594
5 romanian-a_behar @ 16.324713
6 bulgarian_yunusbayev @ 17.725777
7 spaniard_behar @ 18.581553
8 spaniard_1000genomes @ 19.231123
9 ashkenazi_harappa @ 20.264709
10 serbian_harappa @ 21.182695
11 french_hgdp @ 21.908333
12 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 22.519363
13 puerto-rican_1000genomes @ 23.653507
14 hungarian_behar @ 26.040966
15 romanian-b_behar @ 26.488213
16 morocco-jew_behar @ 27.121059
17 slovenian_xing @ 27.916082
18 sephardic-jew_behar @ 28.136332
19 puerto-rican_bryc @ 30.155544
20 utahn-white_1000genomes @ 30.375689
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-b_behar +50% spaniard_behar @ 5.520177
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% ashkenazi_harappa +25% basque_hgdp +25% singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 3.036923
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
1 hungarian_behar + sardinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.056755
2 cypriot_behar + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 2.214251
3 british_1000genomes + cypriot_behar + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.220812
4 basque_hgdp + druze_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.236833
5 basque_hgdp + druze_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_behar @ 2.264450
6 hungarian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.271673
7 cypriot_behar + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + utahn-white_hapmap @ 2.303396
8 sardinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + slovenian_xing @ 2.317735
9 cypriot_behar + n-european_xing + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.343840
10 druze_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spain-basc_henn2012 + spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.392967
11 morocco-jew_behar + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + slovenian_xing @ 2.416105
12 druze_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spain-basc_henn2012 + spaniard_behar @ 2.451857
13 cypriot_behar + orcadian_hgdp + sardinian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.498926
14 cypriot_behar + italian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spain-basc_henn2012 @ 2.523579
15 cypriot_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes + spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.554930
16 basque_hgdp + cypriot_behar + italian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.555162
17 italian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.599650
18 cypriot_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes + spaniard_behar @ 2.669971
19 sephardic-jew_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spain-basc_henn2012 + tuscan_1000genomes @ 2.697093
20 italian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_behar @ 2.712824
Done.
Elapsed time 5.9631 seconds.
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions
This utility uses the Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 model, created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Project Blog.
Kit Number: ******* Elapsed Time: 7.25 seconds
Population
North_Sea 12.47
Atlantic 23.11
Baltic 4.45
Eastern_Euro 4.62
West_Med 19.35
West_Asian 9.73
East_Med 10.15
Red_Sea 4.45
South_Asian 10.13
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.18
Northeast_African 0.34
Sub-Saharan -
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59615 SNPs used in this evaluation
Oracle
GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This version of GEDmatch Oracle is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project. More information on Dienekes' orignal program can be found here.
Many thanks also to Zack Ajmal for helping us get this web version of Dienekes' Oracle program developed.
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit *******
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 23.11
2 West_Med 19.35
3 North_Sea 12.47
4 East_Med 10.15
5 South_Asian 10.13
6 West_Asian 9.73
7 Eastern_Euro 4.62
8 Baltic 4.45
9 Red_Sea 4.45
10 Oceanian 1.18
11 Northeast_African 0.34
12 Southeast_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 11.63
2 Tuscan 13.22
3 Spanish_Extremadura 13.39
4 Spanish_Andalucia 13.41
5 Portuguese 13.93
6 Spanish_Murcia 14.22
7 Spanish_Galicia 14.46
8 Spanish_Valencia 14.53
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.62
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 14.66
11 Spanish_Cataluna 14.66
12 Spanish_Cantabria 15.85
13 Spanish_Aragon 16.41
14 Southwest_French 16.77
15 Italian_Abruzzo 17.24
16 West_Sicilian 17.28
17 Romanian 17.42
18 Bulgarian 17.43
19 Greek 17.68
20 Greek_Thessaly 17.72
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.5% Spanish_Andalucia + 23.5% Pathan @ 3.48
2 78% Spanish_Andalucia + 22% Sindhi @ 3.55
3 77.2% Spanish_Andalucia + 22.8% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.86
4 76.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 23.2% Kalash @ 4
5 71.8% Spanish_Aragon + 28.2% Brahui @ 4.22
6 72% Spanish_Cantabria + 28% Makrani @ 4.24
7 75.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 24.3% Balochi @ 4.25
8 77.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 22.7% Burusho @ 4.25
9 76% Spanish_Andalucia + 24% Brahui @ 4.26
10 72.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 27.4% Brahui @ 4.28
11 71.4% Spanish_Aragon + 28.6% Balochi @ 4.32
12 74.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 25.7% Brahui @ 4.42
13 71.2% Spanish_Aragon + 28.8% Makrani @ 4.43
14 72.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 27.8% Balochi @ 4.45
15 75.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 24.9% Pathan @ 4.49
16 73.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 26.1% Balochi @ 4.5
17 76.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 23.3% Sindhi @ 4.56
18 70.8% Southwest_French + 29.2% Makrani @ 4.58
19 73.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 26.2% Makrani @ 4.72
20 78.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 21.5% Sindhi @ 4.75
Oracle-4
Kit Num: *******
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Gedmatch.Com
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 23.11
2 West_Med 19.35
3 North_Sea 12.47
4 East_Med 10.15
5 South_Asian 10.13
6 West_Asian 9.73
7 Eastern_Euro 4.62
8 Baltic 4.45
9 Red_Sea 4.45
10 Oceanian 1.18
Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.
--------------------------------
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 13.156960
2 Tuscan @ 15.190623
3 Spanish_Andalucia @ 15.237236
4 Spanish_Extremadura @ 15.237847
5 Portuguese @ 15.885400
6 Spanish_Murcia @ 16.221870
7 Spanish_Galicia @ 16.543524
8 Spanish_Valencia @ 16.623917
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 16.681637
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 16.747149
11 Spanish_Cataluna @ 16.792503
12 Spanish_Cantabria @ 18.159300
13 Spanish_Aragon @ 18.850767
14 Southwest_French @ 19.220678
15 Romanian @ 19.781269
16 Bulgarian @ 19.840006
17 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.012192
18 West_Sicilian @ 20.126787
19 Greek @ 20.456043
20 French @ 20.475262
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +50% Turkmen @ 10.158945
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +25% Libyan_Jewish +25% Punjabi_Jat @ 4.388526
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
1 Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.660196
2 French_Basque + Italian_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.731824
3 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.739735
4 Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.814910
5 French_Basque + Italian_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Southwest_French @ 3.832616
6 Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.894405
7 North_Italian + Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.905765
8 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Punjabi_Jat + Southwest_French @ 3.920222
9 Pathan + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon + Tuscan @ 3.952508
10 French_Basque + Pathan + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Sicilian @ 3.956752
11 French_Basque + Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Tuscan @ 3.965353
12 French_Basque + Pathan + Spanish_Extremadura + Tuscan @ 3.972204
13 East_Sicilian + French_Basque + Pathan + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.979035
14 French_Basque + Punjabi_Jat + Sephardic_Jewish + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.004339
15 Pathan + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.007586
16 French_Basque + Punjabi_Jat + South_Italian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.018396
17 French_Basque + Italian_Jewish + Pathan + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.045203
18 North_Italian + Pathan + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.061698
19 Brahui + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.067345
20 French_Basque + Italian_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.070632
Done.
Elapsed time 2.0467 seconds.
Ajeje Brazorf
05-28-2018, 06:39 PM
With 8 percent southasian you arent 10 percent roma i score 11 percent and im 56 percent roma
She scored 10.13% South_Asian on Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15, which is the highest quality calculator for her. She also has higher West_Asian than the average Spaniard.
Cristiano viejo
05-28-2018, 07:47 PM
Fuck out of here and stop hyjacking a thread about something like DNA that is too complex for your degenerate little mind
Go post some photos on taxonomy and fuck off
Calm down mongrel, it is you who continues obsessed with Spain, in this case with Gypsies (people with your look) hehe xD
Absolutely not. That person is basically white with some more South Asian. I will run her through other calculators now.
Absolutely yes, at least in Spain.
I doubt this girl is even partially Gypsy, seeing her photo and the comments about her South Asian amount.
Ibericus
05-28-2018, 08:45 PM
She scored 10.13% South_Asian on Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15, which is the highest quality calculator for her. She also has higher West_Asian than the average Spaniard.
South Asian percentage doesn't equal to the total romani blood. Not even full blooded south-asians score 100% south-asia, gypsyes come from NW-Indians who score 50-60% south-Asian,
FilhoV
05-28-2018, 09:17 PM
Calm down mongrel, it is you who continues obsessed with Spain, in this case with Gypsies (people with your look) hehe xD
Absolutely yes, at least in Spain.
I doubt this girl is even partially Gypsy, seeing her photo and the comments about her South Asian amount.
You must not own a mirror panchito
Your darker than I am
Gypsies are not fully South Asian, even the Balkan ones who are the darkest. They are mixed with all sorts of things, primarily Europeans and West Asians. Iberian Gitanos have more admixture, I imagine. So a quarter Gitano person would probably be 1/10 South Asian at best.
Some kit numbers of actual Gypsies, including one Gitano:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?210950-Any-Gypsy-Romani-GEDmatch-kit-numbers&p=4478068&viewfull=1#post4478068
Cristiano viejo
05-29-2018, 12:45 AM
You must not own a mirror panchito
Your darker than I am
It is very difficult to be darker than you, mongrel xD
FilhoV
05-29-2018, 01:04 AM
It is very difficult to be darker than you, mongrel xD
You are darker and your hair is as black as shit
Cristiano viejo
05-29-2018, 01:08 AM
You are darker and your hair is as black as shit
My hair is not black and you play in the league of Mortimer, mongrel :lol:
ovidiu
05-29-2018, 01:33 AM
That's really interesting. I guess that goes to show you genetics don't always correlate much with phenotype. But then again 10% is pretty low. Still, there are people who are fully European who have a somewhat exotic look that some mistakenly assume is Romani, while there are people who are actually partly Romani and aren't associated with those stereotypes at all.
FilhoV
05-29-2018, 01:53 AM
My hair is not black and you play in the league of Mortimer, mongrel :lol:
Hahahahahaha hahahah your hair is black panchito
Mortimer
05-29-2018, 02:18 AM
That's really interesting. I guess that goes to show you genetics don't always correlate much with phenotype. But then again 10% is pretty low. Still, there are people who are fully European who have a somewhat exotic look that some mistakenly assume is Romani, while there are people who are actually partly Romani and aren't associated with those stereotypes at all.
10% isnt 10% not even southasians score 100% they score like 30-60% depends on the tribe and region and caste. so 10% is actually much more especially since gypsies are ALL Mixed with europeans even the darkest are not that much southasian. run puntdnal k13 which i have in my signature because i cluster with romani, it would be interesting to see how much romani she is.
Mortimer
05-29-2018, 02:22 AM
She scored 10.13% South_Asian on Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15, which is the highest quality calculator for her. She also has higher West_Asian than the average Spaniard.
i score like 13% on that calculator she might be half gitano or even full because im balkan roma and i dont know how gitano score, maybe gitano have less southasian then balkan roma. i doubt they have more. she is at least half gitano with that amount.
Mortimer
05-29-2018, 02:25 AM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?245895-Gypsy-Gedmatch-Results-I-use-Gedrosia-K6-and-K3
Ajeje Brazorf
05-29-2018, 04:54 AM
South Asian percentage doesn't equal to the total romani blood. Not even full blooded south-asians score 100% south-asia, gypsyes come from NW-Indians who score 50-60% south-Asian,
Surely you're right. However, the percentage of 23andMe is 8.40% which is in line with Harappa's S-Indian.
Mortimer
05-29-2018, 04:57 AM
Surely you're right. However, the percentage of 23andMe is 8.40% which is in line with Harappa's S-Indian.
its impossible that southindian is the only southasian, no one not even low castes have exactly the same amount southindian etc. a 100% low caste would max 70% s.indian and that would be a paniyar or something like that very extreme tribe, most southasians including southindians and low castes would be 35-58% southindian on harappa. 23andme underestimates her southasian heavily. who knows where it went, maybe in unassigned or broadly middle eastern or european. she certainly isnt 90% italian 10% roma. on 23andme im also only 14% southasian. she is likely a half gitano or 2/3 gitano since i dont know how gitano score but i suspect they are less southasian on average then balkan roma from serbia or bulgaria like i am.
FilhoV
05-29-2018, 11:07 AM
Cristiano Viejo is just mad this “Gitano” is whiter than he is
Ajeje Brazorf
05-29-2018, 12:40 PM
Cristiano Viejo is just mad this “Gitano” is whiter than he is
Did you see him? I mean, did he ever show his face?
Cristiano viejo
05-30-2018, 04:29 PM
Did you see him? I mean, did he ever show his face?
Are you interested in me? ask me.
Smitty
05-31-2018, 04:33 AM
She may be "light," but she still looks off, which is to be expected.
She may be "light," but she still looks off, which is to be expected.
What do you mean by "off"? To Americans many full Spaniards or other non NW Europeans would probably be "off", so that doesn't really mean much.
Smitty
06-04-2018, 04:35 AM
What do you mean by "off"? To Americans many full Spaniards or other non NW Europeans would probably be "off", so that doesn't really mean much.
Her eye shape (and color, to the extent it's an accurate photo) and her nose. Maybe my opinion doesn't mean much. But she scores 10% South Asian, and it shows in her appearance, which is not at all surprising.
Mortimer
06-04-2018, 04:42 AM
Her eye shape (and color, to the extent it's an accurate photo) and her nose. Maybe my opinion doesn't mean much. But she scores 10% South Asian, and it shows in her appearance, which is not at all surprising.
maybe its not her photo, i noticed a swastika on her neck, maybe its a nazi, or she is into ancient buddhism because of her gypsy roots, but her results suggest that she is at least half gitano or more.
Smitty
06-04-2018, 05:10 AM
maybe its not her photo, i noticed a swastika on her neck, maybe its a nazi, or she is into ancient buddhism because of her gypsy roots, but her results suggest that she is at least half gitano or more.
Perhaps it isn't. I'll be the first to admit that this phenotype business is subject to bias. And yes, she's probably largely gypsy, despite being only 10% SA. That seems to be the norm.
Isleńo
08-24-2018, 04:47 AM
I think saying she’s North Italian and Indian is misleading even if she scores closer to that mix because we know she’s from Iberia. So I think the Spanish/Indian scores in the OP are more representative of what she may be closer to.
75.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 24.1% Pathan
77.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.9% Pathan
78.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 21.2% Sindhi
Isleńo
08-24-2018, 04:54 AM
10% isnt 10% not even southasians score 100% they score like 30-60% depends on the tribe and region and caste. so 10% is actually much more especially since gypsies are ALL Mixed with europeans even the darkest are not that much southasian. run puntdnal k13 which i have in my signature because i cluster with romani, it would be interesting to see how much romani she is.
I think probably a more accurate picture of what this girl is is in the results in the OP. We know she’s not a North Italian, so even though she would score closer to someone that is maybe 88% North Italian and 12% Indian, we know she’s from Iberia so I think it’s more realistic to use her Iberian scores with the Indian scores to get a more accurate picture of her ancestry.
75.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 24.1% Pathan
77.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.9% Pathan
78.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 21.2% Sindhi
But this doesn’t really say how much gypsy she is, it just gives you an Iberian+Indian percentage. Maybe you can elaborate on what you think her gypsy percentage is based on these Iberian+Indian scores since I figure that is your area of expertise.
IncelSlayer
08-24-2018, 05:00 AM
Her photo
https://i.imgur.com/PsdZRSx.jpg
Good looking women I would say
i see daily gipsies, i saw hundreds of thousands in my life and never i saw a gipsy looking like this who would identify as gipsy, even those who are half gipsie and half balkan people are brown and indian looking, so her results are not to be taken as what would a gipsy score anywere in teh world, you should modify the title to "spanish with some gipsy ancestry".
JosephK
08-24-2018, 03:58 PM
i see daily gipsies, i saw hundreds of thousands in my life and never i saw a gipsy looking like this who would identify as gipsy, even those who are half gipsie and half balkan people are brown and indian looking, so her results are not to be taken as what would a gipsy score anywere in teh world, you should modify the title to "spanish with some gipsy ancestry".
It depends on how they identify... there are plenty of Gypsies, that is Romani, in England that are essentially blonde due to interbreeding... In Bulgaria and the rest of the Balkans, Roma are much darker, much more Indian...
Damiăo de Góis
08-25-2018, 11:35 AM
I don't think this is a "spanish gypsy". Seems to be half Romanian or so with the 22% Ballkan - Romania on 23andme.
Her 23andMe results
https://i.imgur.com/XVUwYCe.jpg
...when spanish gypsy meets romanian gypsy
FilhoV
08-25-2018, 12:11 PM
Her updated results
https://imgur.com/a/pmM6beA
IncelSlayer
08-25-2018, 12:14 PM
Her updated results
https://imgur.com/a/pmM6beA
i am interested what are her stars on 23andme?
Mortimer
08-26-2018, 06:00 AM
I think probably a more accurate picture of what this girl is is in the results in the OP. We know she’s not a North Italian, so even though she would score closer to someone that is maybe 88% North Italian and 12% Indian, we know she’s from Iberia so I think it’s more realistic to use her Iberian scores with the Indian scores to get a more accurate picture of her ancestry.
75.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 24.1% Pathan
77.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 22.9% Pathan
78.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 21.2% Sindhi
But this doesn’t really say how much gypsy she is, it just gives you an Iberian+Indian percentage. Maybe you can elaborate on what you think her gypsy percentage is based on these Iberian+Indian scores since I figure that is your area of expertise.
I score the same amount so half gypsy
JosephK
08-27-2018, 09:57 PM
I score the same amount so half gypsy
But if it's picking up that much Indian (<20% Sindhi, for instance), wouldn't she be more than half Gypsy? That seems like a lot of Indian!
We're about a quarter Gypsy and one of my cousins gets (PuntDNAl k15):
8 95.2% German_North + 4.8% North_Kannadi @ 3.21
9 81% Irish + 19% Chuvash @ 3.21
10 95.3% German_North + 4.7% Hakkipikki @ 3.22
11 81% Swedish + 19% Romani @ 3.28
12 95.3% German_North + 4.7% Sakilli @ 3.28
13 94.9% German_North + 5.1% UP_Muslim @ 3.29
14 95.2% German_North + 4.8% Piramalai_Kallars @ 3.3
Tauromachos
08-27-2018, 11:08 PM
Hahaha North Atlantic seem her highest
She has more Northern ancestry than the average Sicilian haha
I like this one
Though i don't even know what a Dharkar is:cool: 1 84.2% North_Italian + 15.8% Dharkar @ 5.03
Mortimer
08-28-2018, 03:06 PM
But if it's picking up that much Indian (<20% Sindhi, for instance), wouldn't she be more than half Gypsy? That seems like a lot of Indian!
We're about a quarter Gypsy and one of my cousins gets (PuntDNAl k15):
8 95.2% German_North + 4.8% North_Kannadi @ 3.21
9 81% Irish + 19% Chuvash @ 3.21
10 95.3% German_North + 4.7% Hakkipikki @ 3.22
11 81% Swedish + 19% Romani @ 3.28
12 95.3% German_North + 4.7% Sakilli @ 3.28
13 94.9% German_North + 5.1% UP_Muslim @ 3.29
14 95.2% German_North + 4.8% Piramalai_Kallars @ 3.3
Possible
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